our website that's to be found a d w dot com. ah, beijing says it will send a special envoy to you craig. keith is sending a new ambassador to china. the results of a phone call, the 1st between the president of ukraine and china since the russian invasion began last year. how important was this phone call and why did beijing agreed to talk? now? chinese president, she's in pain reporter leave, said nothing of russia and its invasion of ukraine. and shyness still has its no limits relationship with russia. so what was this call all about? why did ukrainian president zalinski even bother to pick up the phone? i'm broke off in berlin. this is the day ah, eating president, she jin pings called with president lensky shows china's objected and impartial

position, and a sense of responsibility. i had alone and meaningful phone call with chinese president cheese in pink. i believe that this cold, as well as the appointment of ukraine's and mrs. and see, can you wait for everlasting peace in europe together? ah, also coming up inside the trenches and on the front lines with ukraine's citizen soldiers lomas as and says to be restored, you have to keep positive that the keep your spirits up aside load otherwise it won't last long. so it's not like we can corner mothers to come and pick us out in my me possessive amenities as of all. those are the things that they would to our viewers watching on p b. s. in the united states into all of you around the world. welcome, we begin the day with diplomacy between ukraine and china, the ties that bind or perhaps the ties that blind on wednesday, chinese president,

she's in ping spoke with ukrainian president zalinski on the phone. their 1st contact since the russian invasion began last year. 4 months. zalinski have said publicly that he would like direct talks with president she for months there was no response. so why now? china's stance as a neutral party in the russian war against ukraine. that stance has not changed. it's 12 point piece plan offered earlier this year. it went nowhere in china and russia remain more than just allies, thanks to their no limits relationship without mentioning russia, orange invasion of ukraine. season paying reportedly told zalinski that china will not add fuel to the fire or take advantage of the crisis to profit. it sounds like an attempt more ambiguity by china. how does that help ukraine? we'll discuss that in just a moment. but 1st here is what shine is. foreign ministry said about the phone call and diplomacy with ukraine. tools on that when it comes to the ukraine crisis in

china has always stood on the side of peace. and its core position is to promote peace talks. don't fall. china will send a special representative of the chinese governmental yeah. to visit ukraine and other countries to conduct talks with all parties for a political settlement of the crisis on to go to my 1st guess tonight is alexander share bar ambassador at large at you grange ministry foreign affairs. he's also the former ukrainian ambassador to austria, ambassador, it's good to have you back on the program. i want to start by asking for your read on this phone call between presidents zalinski and she oh my read is that what we should so very carefully look at the wording that's a president zaleski shows what use he my emphasis on a long conversation. and he didn't mention a piece of talks. he mentioned the strengthening obojobi relation. so

my understanding is that probably of course of the piece plan, the chinese piece plan was discussed. but it was just the 1st step of many i'm so we just the beginning, ambassador, if you could put us inside the mind of president zelinski a, why would he think that a phone call with the chinese president at this moment in time? why would it be of any positive significance for you crate? whoa, the time was chosen by china, so hm. you sprained ankle 2 months ago or a year ago? prisons landscape definitely would have picked up the phone because china is big enough on board. and now, and we hope that they are the despite of this so called no limit to operation was

rational martin friendship with russia a see and understand who is the fire this. ready or who is the victim? so of the time was chosen by sign that they should be as the one that she's being, as we understand it did not mention russia by name or it's invasion of ukraine in this phone call with president zelinski. in fact, the read out that was given by beijing of this phone call shows that china remains rather ambiguous as ever when it comes to the war in ukraine. to it. do you think there's an ulterior motive here then in this phone call? oh i think if some are you craigs interest for urge i not to be ambiguous, quite frankly because it will be good a strong well it will be very damaging for your graham and i think it will be the

softening for the world's and it will be a very, very big mistake child, for some reason would have decided to join a occupier. this of this absolutely horrific or a war answer, not just a delicate buyer and the rest of the aggressor who is not winning this war. so i think, i think it will be just logical prudence of china or to be a big is about the, the countries in the global self. and that includes the bricks, countries, brazil, russia, india, and china, and south africa. and they have not criticized russia for its invasion of ukraine. with any mind i want you to take a listen to what brazil's new president lula. what he said today, it is useless to say who is right and who is wrong, perhaps. what needs to be done now,

but there is for the war to stop. i get them wish that the war has reached a point where a group of friendly countries as needed for which can bring the parties together, group or dialogue view and establish rules in each the firstly they have to stop killing people. ambassador, so president lula, they are said a group of friendly countries have to come together. do you know what countries the president has in mind? again, i don't know what sort of the presence of mind, but of course one thing the most important thing is for people to stop dying them or should be thinking about russia withdrawing from the grain. because if you think about, you know, buying these because of them, then he's talking about fractions, stop the store, not dying any more, but your premiums keep it, keep dying under your face and the russian like

a patient. so it's a little bit critical. if this is what it means, any cost piece of any cop, it will be, it will be just or a decision just to be thousands and thousands of thousands of the premiums today. so crocodile and moscow, that's something we upsize all ready and be doing that again. do you think ukraine can view a country like brazil as a friend right now? well, we need to stop. so talking with brazil because of the best of there was some from there from where to, while just late from china. and so we need to at least try to persuade them that this is the most in do you know colonial war oh, or time. and the brazil is against imperialism. it should be against those who conduct this kind of worse, namely against bullying. last friday in china's ambassador to france ignited

a fire storm when he claimed that the former soviet republics do not have legal claims to sovereignty. which of course would mean that the annexation of crimea was legal and at the invasion of eastern ukraine by russia. it's not really an invasion at all. do you think president she's in pink of china? do you think he called president zalinski in an attempt to defuse that situation? frankly, by yesterday. this is jason with rather if you at least can you bring a media and bring an expert in circles, the premium, the prevailing opinion was that it was just, it's honestly just the ambassador was being tired. so or maybe not attached with this conversation because when you read the warning, him denied the saw and the, and the right or 15 both. so this,

so both countries including russia, including 70. wow. it's just for the killer, i think it was just flip off and they've asked me before we let you go, i want to ask you, do you see china at some point in the future, taking on the role of piece mediator. i mean, is it the only power that can bring both ukraine and russia to the negotiating table? well, lou, bring the 2 hours to the table well, on what to discuss, what? because right now, both both sides already, when negotiation just russia is ready to discuss the objectives of local special military operation. namely,

basically and we are ready to discuss. it was the role of russian troops from our territory and russia, bringing the damages they owe us. so it's just a question on what basis because the brain ready and warm just feeding any more them to people. freedom. so your grain to moscow? ambassador alexander share, but we appreciate your time and your insights tonight is always thank you. thank you. on the ground and ukraine, hundreds of thousands of citizens have been called up, drafted to fight against russian forces. now, for most of these young men, it's their 1st experience being part of the military, he w. nick connelly went to the front lines in the eastern dawn beth region to find out how ukraine's citizen soldiers are coping in the trenches. a spring turns wet, snow to mud,

keeping upright is even harder than it looks. this forest might seem empty, but it's actually full of soldiers all on the lookout. so to keep almost down, because near here the russians are just a matter of a few under me to a yvonne and his friend are in a forward position. without leaves on the trees, it feels exposed. but at least they can see russian units when they approach soon, they'll be better hidden up. so will the other side. i call it the hook. the hardest thing is when it's too quiet to do, it means the russians could be coming on foot. let the utensils be so at least when they're firing at us. it means i not sending any of them people away. luckily with the whole summit the castle glimmered be posted. yvonne will be here for 2 days. 2 nights. that might not seem long, but it's intense and exhausting. 2 hours and watch than 2 hours sleep and watch again, powered by heat backs and energy drinks, such if you are cold,

well this is our forced out on the over there. that's the 3 star. it's still a work in progress. i said the 1st day we got here in the shells, hit 2030 meters away. it was incredibly loud and you could feel everything around you. shaky with like hundreds of thousands of ukrainian service people. yvonne had never held a rifle before the russians invaded last year. citizen soldiers like him are having to learn fast, lo moses and says to be restored, you have to keep positive. keep your spirits up a lot, otherwise he won't last long on there, but it's not like we can call our mothers to come and pick us up. why me places when i'm gonna leave them at all. but those are the things that for this is the main dug out, a cave blasted into the hillside. it's warm and dry and feel safe after the constant stress outside this time and space here to take a breath. force was less so you force,

we'll get children's drawings like they sent to us and no one would ever throw them away. we keep them destroying is from a ukrainian child who's a refugee in germany. was there was a letter thanking us for protecting the same look. hopefully these children will be able to come home soon as you put your arms on the board. look with you know, he's gonna require last year but right at the beginning of which out we found out my wife was pregnant. i became a father during this war. this was read. i got leave to be there for my son's birthday, but i didn't make it in time. so i was still traveling from the training camp when he was born. i was able pull your numbers to threaten your world cardinal. the idea

that they're fighting russian now. so that children don't have to is something you hear a lot from ukrainian soldiers. no one who believes that russia is going to negotiate in good faith. this armored personnel carrier is normally used to bring out the wounded. it knocks its passengers around so much, the soldiers joke, many the wounded because you injuries on their way to safety. the law, virginia watts, actually we're here 247 wilcox waiting, who call out a where basically an ambulance service just in, you know, that we run the risk of being killed, doing our job to meet what no premium channels we honey to casualties and more than a dozen wounded near us just yesterday. um, well i bought out the deal. everyone's nerves are shattered. to come up for the jani ocean sydney. starlight soldiers with extreme psychological trauma,

are evacuated out to ross tells us the most have to keep going with the pills or as much help as they can expect in his civilian life. to rest worked as a neurologist in knows his way around a medicine cabinet party. jessica shaw, and i'm sorry. can you put these are all antidepressants and anxiety medication when you upon you must discharge shem of. i put all this together myself and provide them to anyone who needs them as the symptom which is given that we can only hope to manage the symptoms that he was not the best treatment for anxiety. depression and stress induced condition is to avoid the treatment that you have alive during wartime cause that's just not possible nemea, zach theater of nero ship, see, i recommend these to every one thought i vomiting malayna anthony wedding, him as washer phantom, all are keeping up with him so he feels heavier and it's not the patients that are feeling the strain. so to those working here to ross tells us he to has started

taking antidepressants. so kids this will began over a year ago. he's only seen his family for a few days at a time. c o o in ulysses, shes at of sierra, everyone you've met here so far. yeah. we're all civilians long at all. sure. my bill is, you know, with all been cold up yet i to advantage bottom of that mouse a fit. it's our professional soldiers who are in a floors issue. she'll still know that i'm, i'm going to 0. am after that and out doing what good. so for them, ah, in brazil for president julia bolton arrow has answered questions from police over his alleged role in a tax on government buildings carried out by his supporters. last january, brazil's prosecutor says that austin aro, incited the violence in an effort to reject the results of the presidential election, often aro, travel to day to believe headquarters in brazil. yo, he did not. an sir. questions from reporters of the attacks followed both scenarios,

defeat in last year's presidential election. also, nora was in the us state of florida at the time. he has not publicly conceited losing the election to louise and oscio lula de silva, many a boston aro supporters believe the election was writ of a more. am janelle by correspondence m cal we he joins me now from sal palo in brazil. sh sab valuables and ours says that he had nothing to do with the violence there in brazil. yet, what about the court of public opinion? i mean, how credible is his story in the eyes of the public? well, i mean, that's a very, very interesting question, right? because you know, brazil going through the kind of political polarization where it is at the moment. support the blue to the silver. the current president would say that she had everything to do with the violence that happened on january the 8th in the capital, brazil, which resulted in, you know,

congressional building. the supreme court being like really bad, bad lawyers, right. much worse than january. the 6 in the united states. no cause on the other hand, what support the valuable in our own who say that now you've got nothing to do. this is a plot. you know, he's supportive, he's most radical supporters claim that this is a plot invented by lulu workers bought the. and that's actually the people that invaded the buildings. were members of rude as workers policy that were trying to try to essentially create a false flag operation to justify the repair even crackdown, you know, that, you know, for most not as much brighter who supports his belief. right? yeah. i mean, you know, the, the answer taishan that he was, that he posted what was seem to be an encouraging instagram post to grand host encouraging the violent. and he's expectation that he was on morphine at the time.

and that's why he posted the and, you know, withdrew it off with regardless pat daroolen, quite a few 100 snakes of disbelief here in brazil. what can have a potion i'll reward to be convicted to? could this former brazilian president, could he actually go to prison? i mean, he's read the brazilian president's to go to prison to stay in prison. right. i mean, there have been a few cases in recent years and box. the overall assumption here is that this case isn't really going to go very far. so basically, because it's very difficult to really connect the dots really directly to both. all right, that's all that's all i see. anyway. what's more likely is that one in one of the other cases of which there are at least 16 altogether. again, folks are regarding online this information during the pandemic. it's, it's, it's understood that there is quite

a high chance of being stripped of his political rights, which would mean that you wouldn't be able to run for public office in brazil. the name is and is understood already that essentially that he's part, you're already kind of way not who could like take his place when the next presidential elections are held in 2026. right. so yeah, that would be the most likely scenario that you know, boston our is referred to as the brazilian donald trump. i mean, this case certainly has parallel to the january 6 insurrection of the u. s. capital, is it being reported that way in brazil? yeah, i mean this. yeah, yeah, there's lots of paranoia and also with other kind of you know, leaders with the authoritarian meetings across the world are, was always a very close a big fan of like victor all bonding hungry and all that kind of michael. so it's harry illegal democracy as the leaders. so, so yeah, like it's, it's definitely,

it's definitely been reported in a similar, similar way that the general uprisings in the, in the united states were reported. and, you know, for the record things are much worse here in brazil than they were in the united states. why they genuinely was like an attempt to take power here or 22222. so that was a genuine coincidence. essentially one that didn't work out in the end, but yet it was, it was, it was certainly a very serious situation. let me ask you, sam, before we go to something completely different in this with the current president, president, lula, brazil under his leadership. is that good news for china and russia? not so good news for ukraine in the united states. i mean, it's an interesting question. it's, i mean like china is

a huge trading partner in brazil. biggest trading paul has been for a long time and you know, brazil has a storm of non alignment and always has had 3 posts in our presidency through the through blue the presidency through pretty much a brazil history of foreign policy is not alignment why brazil had like a significant trade relationship with, with russia to because if i look russian bertha lies that it needs for you to activate this account for a quarter of brazil, g d p and trying to reach the principal buyer of that, you know, the for the training water united, safely european union and what we're seeing here, i think more in terms of, you know, obviously a few of the statements have offended the ukrainian. right. and so what we really seeing here is a typical kind of non aligned policy from the global in which you basically play the major powers against each other. and i think that's what this is really about

here. and her actions speak louder than words and reduce, has condemned, you know, the ukrainian, or russian invasion of ukraine at united nations. while, you know, that has been a few comments by present luda here. and there that had been that had caused defense, new grain, and understandably so. but again, this is typically not a line policy from the global south, brazil as possible. journalists, sam kelly said, we appreciate your time in your reporting tonight. thank you. thanks so much. good . ah, and finally tonight it is late april, but in many parts of spain, it feels like late july, temperatures are expected this week to reach 39 degrees celsius. that's 86 degrees fahrenheit. this early heat wave comes in spain is already in the 3rd year of below average rainfall. water levels in many rivers are at record lows, so low that local authorities have even been rescuing the fish. they transported

fish from this river in ne spain to a nearby river that has a higher water level. spanish meteorologists are blaming this extreme early hot weather on climate change. while the day's almost done the conversation that continues on wind, you'll find it on twitter either eddie w. news, you can follow me on twitter at rent. gov tv and remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day. we'll see you then everybody think

ah, with her exploiting labor and generating load. so plastic waste vegetable growers in southern spain have long had a bad reputation for german supply chain act is supposed to ensure fair wages and environmental protection, but will have an impact on the situation in spain made in germany

next on d, w into the conflict zone with to sebastian, given almost 5 months of virtual stalemate on the battlefield of ukraine. and yet europe and america clear that key f one, get to the fighter aircraft, a long range weapon systems. what's the ground global seen from buffy? is the one i guess, the shout michelle, president of the european congress. you conflict zone in 60 minutes? what do w o? o this is to what did you do? the food. i dream to tenant. fantastic. ah, she survived auschwitz, thanks to music. he was the nazis favorite conductor. he is morally degenerate to musicians under the swastika,

a documentary about the sounds of power, inspiring story about survival of the home. i don't get the tennis. i was the only one what lies and luke music in nazi germany. watch now on youtube, d. w documentary. oh i know how is russia's economy holding up under western sanctions.