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and also a tarp to ward off any rain weather until may 6. and in a small village west of london, royal fans have knitted woolen replicas of king charles and his wife, queen camilla. it had guardsman are also standing at the ready for coronation day. next documentary series doc fell, looks at preserving cindy culture in pakistan. stay with us. and for that, i'm sarah kelly and berlin. thank you for watching thing. i was interested in the global economy, our portfolio d w business beyond. here's a closer look at the project. to analyze the fight for market dominance,
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get us did with d w business beyond? ah la in may. well, i question out my survey and my change, the answer is already ah, anyone who wants to be for me, anyone who anyone who, oh and understands the message. oh
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i am, it's not to someone ah, some one who nelson and understands the principle that nothing will divide me not even religion. oh, it's our duty to be your brother. all your system, my duty to stand by. you were to welcome you. oh, to protect you. to me this is cindy. ah, it's not about us being better with them being better than us with
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. oh, no said you'll medina that a me. this whole journey and my view is a journey of the solo ah, in fans, out to create the breath of a new soul and humanity at the bottom. do with what they are, the because our sin do civilization has taught peace, love and friendship to the world. ah, a submarine said the in the voice about that we want to give that lesson in the new century as well. 2120. all right, so in my view what we inherit from our ancestors and the next, whether it's from our immediate parents or some of their elders, is the importance of a heritage of thousands of years via the janet. if you want to know who you are,
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you have to go back pedestrian, you let him says, oh, i a story. officially, people begin from the thanks to lightly industry. ah, don't we do in the, in this valley civilization, which was i did speak from 26021900 b. c. of course, give rise to the bus cities in the indian subcontinent because boys of the little window had a pop up by your father wanted your total is the largest
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bronze age, had been settlement and the the population. and this widely sprayed down might have been more than 20000 people living at one point of time. ah, and miss did. you have the huge balances here. you cannot find such differences here. you cannot find that this is the elite glass venture, and this is the work last name, but it's not. secondary is a seems to be for lucian. and there's possibility that to be a citizen. you've been cared to some sort of a mechanism via the management does not require the huge bible to from gains to be there to design issue. ah, the people who live by that in this person,
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it was not such a racial identification that the people belonging to this particular place r as in the it just identification with the river. ah, time chill is on to the centuries. the living of identities becomes more complex. ah, then you have, it is different washing dynasties, building send over the centuries. different muslim tribes. we'll see all our ancestors converted into proteins, into the, or the 15th century. which means what? they were not muslim before that, it would have been indoor or produced a gin. but these other religions were allowed to continue. while the adage was still grueling said, ah, as time ruins on to watch the present, the shift transcend only become more dramatic. we arrived british room in sin
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was a major game changer. the father to than 1843 in the left. a 947, the richest rock, their mother. many changes, some good, some bad, but the completely transformed to in the 100 years or so that they lose it until then in those they were modules, money, lenders and shopkeepers. in the colonial regime, the hindus came to the forefront and cindy's society. they were able to, on land, they had a strong position in the good opportunity education usually. so the, the inter dominique in these was id in summaries. this in the muslims, light muslims in other parts of undivided india were not too quick to take to western education. the english language to western miss. huh. so they lagged behind this rudder, her new gain of fiction, moving inducing, wilson's ah august 15th 1947. great. symbol of the british empire came down for the last time to be replaced by the
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banner of a new indian government. why partition happened is not so easy to explain, but officially, pakistan was brought into existence on the basis of the today. theory that on the indian subcontinent, there are in those and there are muslims and the 2 cannot live together. and various theory is about how the british rule india. and did they really want to create a division between those and was things? well, of course it does make sense because if you have people who are competing with each other, then they will not fight you. and so, yes, the british did have an incentive to divide and rule. however, that was, i would say 25 percent off. the reason why the 2 communities ultimately separated,
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the more important reason was that the political leadership on both sides was able to exploit the fact that the jobs were primarily for him. those and very few for muslims. i good at the time of but the concern was quite before and muslims were living in peace and harmony. there was no conflict. but when the muslim makers who came from other parts of indian subcontinent tool felt deprived of the belongings of the land when they arrived. and they already had a lot of history of foster liquid, acrimony, bitterness so. so that created some sort of stress and tension in descent province, which led to the exodus of cindy people.
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independence has not yet brought the rejoicing turn quickly in the morning. drop this plan, the hindus and muslims, the safety and new surroundings. fortunate to play in the trunk box or in mum, dave done with them or night dressed like a muslim and when the train started to move, i realised oh my best no one for my family in chicago. i thought to myself, what has happened? why did this happen? you know, why am i going all alone? no, i yeah. those 3 days were very difficult for me. it felt like 30 years after those 3 days. wow. i reached bombay yet. got blog about me, but blue
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for one. but i thought i was 15 when i came here. so i probably lived here, see, god, 6 years, i even came alone in a ship. malia they told me to go. so i said, okay, what about i thought they meant just to visit jackie, but soon realized they meant for me to get married to her. when we came here, these barracks were in terrible condition. there were no roads. yeah, lola woodville, i back then. my was really scared a good deal longer. we lived in big holes with strangers passing by in the streets . there was only a cut and thus leaping inside. all last, and aga was completely barrel south of broken roads, no construction. they're going to be out of your boat. then everybody was arriving at the barracks. we've got to nowadays, nobody talks about these things. they just say we came from pakistan, knocker company, but we don't know where it once we came here. we stang, ah, the migration that happened in 1947 when,
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when really enough population migrated. fin frish, a huge social up. he was, they were the businessman. they were the professors, they were the doctors, they were the civil servants. we know that whenever there's a vacuum, someone has to fill that vacuum so that vacuum was filled by the muslim migrants coming from other parts of india. it created social unrest also. i think i'm undressed in the cent province because suddenly cindy's one fine morning when they woke up. they realize that they are in minority now ethnically, because the majority of the population indifference doesn't speak cindy in human history. religion has been a very divisive force and it is true for south asia as well. pakistan was created on the basis of a religious identity. if you are a muslim, you will want to go to pakistan. if your hindu,
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you will stay in india and because it was created in the name of the slam. naturally islam became the currency of power. this wasn't so prominent earlier on. so let's say between 947 and roughly until the 1970 s. you had a fairly cosmo paloton society. and so when i grew up grad cheap gradually and all sorts of people live side by side. but all the time religion began to assert itself, particularly at the time of general z. i will. so that is between 1977, until 1988. uh huh. finally, the door behind these grim walls, the former prime minister and president, was hanged to conspiracy to pakistan. was re defined by
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generals to read the fine not as a muslim state, but as an islamic state. and by establishing some of the punishments, one of the basic game laws were stablish authority and to make them feel that if they do something wrong, the punish and punish fairly. it took a generation, a generation which was tutored, educated into orthodoxy, and so funded mentally pakistani society was turned around and it was done so principally through the use of education. now, the sin is relatively tolerant of those in institutions in karachi, for example, and that you will find many seen the students are in the who know that they are a minority. and yet i would not like to leave the country. there are among the poor
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in those lots we'd like to leave the country especially because they don't feel secure anymore. now that the state has shown indifference in protecting them. ah, i hope i will not remember that anyone as us have been down and the us that live like up to the that's like my room from the seventy's. i left my home and i love the fight. a full it be up the humidity fight rather than live. this is that do that. we have to liberated society.
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i love the whole year from this game and in the nation. i list maintenance program as a moment. so i was behind the scene because being a hindu, my friend, i let me you should not come on the new log in the making that and then add all of the survey for this. and we went to the then then give me upset into the when
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i came out, i 1st met i learned device to read that back to the so much as a he is a dad. this house is like our heritage. it is the place that brings us all together, one of without meaning without roots, you become rootless, this must have a 1000. we were sitting in discussion upstairs when we decided to use this house as the main office for the cultural organizations that were filled out. there was a slogan that i use for our 1st festival until come, let's make our homes and our villages. beautiful friends. our cities and our send beautiful. and so make our world of beautiful places. we'll see if i can. we organized a medical camp, opened
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a library and organized and event on educational awareness. a further sense, like freedom and prosperity are our goals for the whole of humanity. allegedly, jay, with his wife. how did you hear me? well, he has gone to the home with preschool. so there is nothing in his own with those with
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you will be shod. the lamb there, there is no middle school father does. he august skin is dirty only up to 5 o'clock last clerk is not possible without gus education. so here we want to make this village is a mark delayed. well, i'll get especially guts should be as you get did that, you know, as the local, i used to live in, i did the of the a sour did that will come to the present day. our ideals of communism are not from soviet communism. communism. do we took soviet communism's economic model, but we have always thought that when we finally free send, we could create a more humanist and democratic communist system lord demo that communist assist among that v. b. i got another important part of our ideology. was that the
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traditional democracy of the local councils where women are now being excluded? today, you look at any such councils and they are all male dominated though with but if you look at the original system, both women and elders were involved in making decisions. all the way positive that believe of this whole feudal system never existed before the british rule and send a equal oh yeah, i'm a born cindy. i've known that i've been in the all my life. i've spoken to language and everything, but never really embraced all of that. never really taken the dime, understanding where we're coming from understanding what's our future understanding what's happening now
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with my father was always making with either one to one to me. can you not joy do now? can we think about ourselves young? so maybe i shouldn't have said it, but i was young and i did and i didn't want my parents to be taken the way. it's happened so many times with our own circle of people with the soap and that my parents are and either they were there brought back what they're never brought back . they just still. so i think i would, we've had that feel, you know, having to think my parents with boots or something like that. ah, i
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my 1st is on men's movement are easier. those of, you know, lou said young, she's got degrees, but she doesn't give any expressions. and i was always afraid of people making fun of me for being expressive. then my mother started telling me, you know, there's no dance without that. do you have to open yourself up? you, you have to really fee and you have to trust the audience. ah, for i, jamie ross, and i work too high dance. i don't see just one. so dancing, but all if cindy dancing through her looks good at a yeah for what happens with don. so me is i can dig my emotions with me and staying on it like
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staying strong, not giving up. and i can read something else ah, [000:00:00;00] thin and above all hinden has mixed together. side by side. mm. the babies in fish, but sometimes i even boys forced to convert this non you are getting angry with me. am i think something wrong? mm. i'm not again,
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i don't understand why i didn't. i met the family awfully young to i do a good. mm. how do you have anything? i'm not going to do. i don't make it a positive and i'm going to be with them. but i don't want other people to be forced to do something. huh. i me, me what's going on here?
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so she was thinking that she would get tomatoes thrown at her work and i a child or people would be offended or to morrow at the opposite happened. car led yacht, i guess because people are ready to accept that at all. are sophie saints have always tried to teach us? but in the fed we are all will send her with the land of suited them. and we used to claim with pride that these cases never happened in these cases usually involve the lower class. and so their voices are not heard and that he has like chandra example. there are others to, they suffer the worst kind of injustice. and they also suffer for school conversion more. there is no question of love that they are actually taken away and converted
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. and this only started in the last 10 to 15 years. and are you chandry mother? yes. felt very sad to hear. yes me to. my little girl is gone. uh huh. what is your name? hi. my name is ross do, roger, i'm sue. hi. me know what can we do? what we feel sad for a girl who would play work. i'm so sad. yeah, it was absolutely fine and healthy now, it feels as though she's dead who she was my only support and now i'm losing my mind now. she was taken from just there. she was sleeping next to my bed, but i do believe that it was home alone. i came home. everyone was still asleep and
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then i woke them up. they were acting strange as if they had been drugged. ah, my dad, he and i didn't measure then i thought i would wake up my eldest and asked her to make some tea, but she wasn't in bed. then we went crazy looking for her. but she was already gone at home. we wanted to tell me that no neighbors noticed when she was being kidnapped children via when i mean cobra be new, but there muslims to. there are only 2 him do houses. here i was a faculty and i got on as her mother though. so chandry still hasn't been to court in on roman. yes. and she came and gave her statement. what did she say? nothing. she said this is my right, but of course they threatened her holding guns and telling her what to say. i am before converting an innocent child to islam and ask her parents if they agree, then convert her, getting god in highball,
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pray lot that chandry is returned to fix it. what the law we hope to god she does. we must get justice and our right. if i know i can, i'll do it. absolutely, and justice should be for everybody for pull people, hinden was muslim. any one that was in my proposal, every one should have the right. they did this horrible, unjust thing to us with. busy oh, gotcha, i know, huh. but there has been a trend in salem to take young girls from law into families and can work them through a slow. this is something that the pakistani state has done very little to protect the him, those from as a cindy, i feel very sad to see what is happening all around in seen it. you should be
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a very liberal dollar and pluralistic place. it's become different ever since this massive petro dollar funded a slam is ation has come about. but then by the same token, i've heard that there is an area where the hindu fundamentalists pushing for prominence. we were doing well when religion was left to the people, it was was in people that and god and now i feel there's an organizational element that are gender in the hurting us. it's dividing us and it's missing i suspicious of each other. now the hindu community feels itself under threat. now, even among muslims, those who are sheila, they try to hide their identity and i see it as a direct consequence of the large number of my dresses that have come about over
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there. also, what is stored in schools all over the country, which is extreme nationalism and the hard form of a slant the life right now, there's a bunch of people from, you know, gone to the london sign. and he's just saying that people really follow specially cindy. they go the thing they dont they believe in this thing, we arrived at the se wanted something that i remember that we had just entered the shrine. we want to give that up. i don't recall if we had lifted our hands for the prayer when the blast happened yagi night, the blast was so powerful that it broke my ear drums, and they bled for 3 days. after that,
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i told you now i only hear from one ear. as i only went to pay respect to our st to your boy, to show our love with proud no his doctor meet ya 96 people were killed and 360 were injured. we get it. if that's how many people were at the shrine, i don't know, i blast happened inside. that's why we survived. and what those in front of us were killed out and we at the back were injured. yeah, go, well we hate you or j through this man's father was killed that night. i was our colleague here and visiting, say one every year with us. would yon wonderful dig a may how long have you lived in this house and i was born here. how you were born here. ha, ha, ha ha! this is my house and my wife here. how are you? well, lizzy and dos, hogs and is everything to me, and more than enough. ah, in all a pakistan, there is no land lying said
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r e. i think there's no people like this and is it a global as hospitable as in? did i? ah sir. burglar give her. as you say, there is so much hospitality in love in austin to remind them either. so do you think bombings like this one of them i could affect the culture or traditions of sin and i know sundays in the d. one, no matter what they do, all have sinned is blast by god. he's on what? the, what teller? how many more can these cruel people help? what you've, you've got and he has anyone stopped going to say one yet? that all martha go and see for yourself. how crowded, say one is you say one of the, are we all afraid and never going to go to say one again. again, how bad are they want? they can kill us if they want. again, while the model number in the ink, it was given i, there is no distinction between people their social class religion. didn't they matter? born of okay. i heard it. he said, well, no, no, no,
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your muslim on your hindu no way will live together and eat together. you see? oh no, maybe. did it. i who fearsome is the phenomenon of mysticism within islam. this sin is known for the enormous number of scenes and sticks. who live there and preached beast and brotherhood. no, madam. according to some scholars that were originally deutsch, better of sofia's, them in sin, was the 13th saint he seemed, with man lindy, also known as line sabbath glen b, o. i, keith, 100 people were killed after you light bulb, or at bag la shabazz. calendar shy in 7 in southern bunker spawn on thursday. ah, the doc appeared to have dogged the women's wing of the shrine and around 30
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children accompanying their mother's morales killed in the drip to the shrine. the high death doll at the shine makes it one of the most, deducting fungus thought in the recent years. ah, i, it's beautiful that live with me. really, i really feel so season is the intention to go to work to chew by means of love and devotion. i use it all. good. i bought a truck on this is cindy is rich in spirituality, and i don't mean that in a religious way. yes. i mean that your values and history are connected with the
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emotion of being connected with your heritage. no us our because all but another important factor in terms of our cultural identity is pitai. why we don't just have to let these pitai. ah sophie philosopher, scholar mistake, and seen his poetry speaks of love, religious tolerance, and humanistic value. ah, the thought cindy 30 may or cindy took off in the cindy culture, we have a message, ankle that was given to us. besides poetry o allied in my you ever on soon, my gusto abandoned its wrath. this beloved. those done with her then daughter of law, let share the grace of you and fruitful b a. let the full dog worried though a lot of he prays to allah for the wellness of the entire wife. cindy and the wellness of austin about the year for you, the near the of ozzy, our sin looks at lives long. funny and so does the wall? yes indeed. does. eva me?
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so in this way, galle, cindy civilization and culture, afar transmit some message to the walk. you my own people always decide to live in piano during dian ah. seen these what spread all over the world after the partitions, but most of us in these got migrated here. so initially they were the military camp as well as i know then gradually got them logged into the they did city somewhere on the other. everybody has a connection with someone in the last name. last name is also known as the synagogue. after the named cindy. i had this dream of connecting in these were what bifurcated up of the partnership. so at this fashion of making comedy videos and to make people up. so i thought of playing some things
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in the so i started making videos that got popularly vital on whatsapp. so i thought, what can be the better within this? let's make some comedy videos. let's get all in these and i did them appear on my channel. and within the 1st few months, with analytics that i got from youtube available, available in this one. and you can do with those videos and how hard the children of to t as aides have started speaking cindy, those children who know what sort of speaking in the neighborhood, this language from them either from the father, from the videos, they're started learning. and i think it's a great thing that does happen within the community. also, india, the most viewership that i go to school focused on and major deal w. what's wrong with them in these? i don't find any difference between do almost them it's, it's all just perspective digital does the human created by vision? i think so. that's again the road us in. it's a place that i was seen only in my dreams, and i would love to be there and that's why i love the scene. yeah.
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ah, yeah. because the language and culture you are like the flowing rhythm on a little and walk over that on the light. we kind of look them up forcefully and change for the button that got every one will go with their own flow. linda. they can, they will dig it out and the language has the strength that will keep it going for signature. mm hm. but i got that then by ha, ah, no challenge or tradition societies like cindy's will not culture. eliminate it. we lose our language and start speaking one universal language will be lose our centuries old heritage. i have no access to it. of course we cannot isolate ourselves. i'm cool society. this is not what it's to be
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a forward. i have to continue to contribute in the global evolution if there is more people to the people that interaction with ah, but give us up. i think we have 2 major religions, islam and hindu and the shrine on one side of the wall is the mosque. but i'm on the other side as a temple, your mother, the united, showing whatever religion some one belongs to general. that's for all satisfaction, he said, but we must all live with law. so what, what's to have a free to be a hindu muslim christian, a buddhist or c care. it's your choice. so margie, that he here with peace and love. what could you budget with?
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but i think i'm a shot me a moment. so any person 1st fall, personally test, but you have a joy, then you get guy just mix. then you have to decide you have to live, father, you are on said, are far all leave you. my lack said, ah, missing a lot of work to be done by cindy's for sim. no one else is going to do it. to can speak to so many cindy's, and they will say no, the hindu is as much. my brother, the sick is as much my brother as the muslim because we are children of the same land of the same river of the same. oh. so i think that awareness, it's not so easy to kick that out of us in shallow.
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ah, one thing that i thought then we'd be blessed and much more conservative. and i think that's something that changed for me. and i felt like there was much more i saw my vision than i saw. and i think that really opened my heart to woodson. oh, when you drive a few miles towards india, you see that it is essentially one country. and you can keep going as far as belly to see that they all have a common history in an age where nationalism and religion is once again asserting itself is very, very important for every person to recognize others as humans and not as belonging to this country. this region,
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all this religion i, we need to move on until we need to welcome other things and try to keep your physician and you guys at the same time, learning to live with these other. why you keep what you have you never know what can get out of the journey and it's done. and maybe johnny's now ending
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