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ah. i british manager. welcome to d dot been use asia. glad you could join us. the united states has committed to defending the philippines, including in the south china sea. the word used iron clad. it's what president joe biden said to philippines. president ferdinand macos junior, during the 1st white house visit by a philippines leader in 10 years. the commitment comes at a time that manila is facing increased chinese assertiveness in the south china sea . beijing, unilaterally claims almost the entire expense of water as its own. a claim shown here by this red line of this includes islands, which manila claims sovereignty over sovereignty that increasingly been challenged by beijing. on the south china sea, a 10th stand up comes to a head. a chinese coast guard ship steams directly in front of the philippines.
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patrol vessel cutting off his journey toward the nearby spread the islands, the collision course set by the chinese despite earlier communications. i say this is nash with over over the berkeley relationship from china and of the freedom. we hope that you can operate with our do not pay in their appropriate behavior. we. we are a beer with math here with the philippines ship. it was on its way to territory, claimed by manila, in the sprightly islands claims contested by china, which claims full sovereignty over all islands and features in these waters. a
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fiercely disputed stance that's getting a new pushback from manila since taking office last june, philippines president 3rd man. marcos junior has insisted that china will not trample on philippines rates at sea level during a visit to beijing and january marcus. and his chinese counterpart. she's in ping agreed to a friendly handling of maritime spats. but just weeks later, the philippines accused china blinding a coast guard crew with a laser light, middle as choice to go public with the footage. a new strategy to confront chinese aggression on the world stage. marco says also moved to strengthen the philippines military alliance with the us. in april, the 2 countries held military drills which included the 1st ever live fire exercise on territory in the south china see a demonstration of joint bio power. that's drawn beijing's ire. now in washington,
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marcos was met with a warm welcome from us president joe biden and a pledge of military support. united states also reminds aren't clara norman resigned. cloner cameron to the defense of the film, including the south china sea biden and marco's said this commitment means honoring a decades old mutual defense packed closer security ties between the 2 countries have been in play for months. earlier this year, a manila granted the u. s. access to several additional philippine spaces. an arrangement that strengthens the philippines defense capabilities and grants. the u . s. a stronger foot holt to counter what it sees as the biggest potential threat in the south china sea region. a possible invasion of tie one by china. joining me now for more context on this is also columnist and political scientists
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. richard had diarrhea and richard and iron clad commitment from the us to defend the philippines, including in the south china sea. does this make the philippines safer or increased chances of a real confrontation with bridging? well, as far as the statement, iron cloud is concerned, this is kind of a shade magically shade that the united states use this. we not only treat the like the philippines, but we hear also doctor, when the united states talks about its relationship with gulf countries, persian gulf countries in the middle east, for instance. so i think that wart doesn't care as much water except when the binding ministration. flyer flies, the parameters of gets michelle defense. tricky with the, till the beans. and this is something that has been quite vague all the way from the nixon administration until the obama administration, but from the late trump years to, by the years now, the americans are opposite. here you filipino aircraft vessels or soldiers come
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under attack in the south. china sea, not vaguely in the pacific, but in the south, tennessee that will be covered by dimensional defense treaty by the united states. and that's particularly important in light of what has been happening over the past few days. that will be coast guard, accusing try and harassing them, and the harassment by the chinese schools. where dawson was caught by a number of journalists were accompanying the philippine coast guard. and few months ago you hot chinese worship report to the point in military great laser at the filipino patrol vessel, also in the contested areas of the south china sea. so this tensions give a certain point and c, r to this iron club statements by dividing ration. but what comprises an attack on philippine feelers? i mean, what you're talking about is something that is in our report as well. let's look at the confrontation between the chinese course. got the philippines coast guard, if it were to pause to the chinese coast guard, rams, philippines, coast guards vessel accidentally or otherwise would that constitute an attack. and
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hence, the mutual defense treaty would come into play. yes, a since 2019, if it's because there was an order incident back then whereby a suspected chinese militia force actually rami to philippine efficient vessel and almost sand doesn't seem to be the feature folks of that incident actually made me think about the precise guidelines on that overseas or alliance, so one of the issues that it's still being discussed because we still have to upgrade our mutual defense tricky. come up with new guidelines is a so called gray zone attacks. so green on the tops concern cases whereby you're not looking at, you know, chinese vessels shooting down to say it will be an aircraft or using guns or firearms. but actually using something, it's just short of that, but course it's still in nature. this is something that the pentagon and or philippine contra works have been seriously discussing, but that will be a very, very, let's say, formal process because we really have to pin down what are you going to be the
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guidelines that will go for the application of the michelle defense re now there is the dispute with china in the south, tennessee, and then the us china tensions over taiwan. and then i almost get the impression that the former is really what is important to manila. but it might not have much of a choice. when it comes to involvement with the latter that is over taiwan. do you agree? my sense is the challenge right now is to get a goal, the last level of american military presence in the philippines. if you look at the statements play marcos junior, he constantly talks about this space as will not be used for offensive purposes. that will not be a staging ground. each constantly talked about the head of this meeting with bite in this week that he was a trade in investment. so market gina is very conscious about not provoking china. so a good the loves presence means that there's not americans. and in philippine sites
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under the defense corporation agreement to make trying to think twice about whether invading taiwan or bullying. the philippines were aggressively in the sol genesee, but you want to make sure they're not too many americans, or more important than the to aggressive american weapon. systems to broke, provoke, china, and as far as i know, we're still negotiating, how many american troops can enter the philippine basis under the ethical and what kind of weapon systems. they can put it, some artillery system or patriot myself systems. those things matter. they're operational, logistical, but have huge strategic implications as a mark is still not fully committed. you know, your, you talked about staging post for military action and prison mock or saying that he doesn't want different screens to be used as a staging force. but as you really get that choice when he is a treaty ally of the united states. yeah, and this is where the argument comes in, whereby the administration officials would say this is about the parents. after all, you better be prepared and deter,
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rather just pretend that you're neutral when chinese not couldn't treat you neutral . if it things come down to an invasion in the philippines will be treated as the u . s. r. late according to china, will respond, or actually preemptively deal with the philippine. so better just you know, dime, if you do dime, if you don't try to better just get prepared for it. but the better argument actually there is that, you know, if the philippines tweaks and twist the level of exercises etc, ties, but with the u. s, then maybe it will be effective and the jury, china. but one thing i really want to talk about here is that everyone talks about invasion of tie one with the philippines has prepared for is also grades on threats that trying to put posted to philippines. you know, we could talk about cyber at after talk about it can exemptions. there are many things that china can do to develop is to retaliate against this. why didn't economic security cooperation or the united states? and i think those are the things that marcus has to be prepared for because i personally get all the war in the short terminate. my sense is that's also the
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calculus of mar goes, but he has to prepare the philippines for grades on retaliations by china. and on that he asked to get maximum assurance and training and backup from the united states. how prepared is money left, any of the grades on tactics should paging jewels to respond to these latest meetings between president biden and brett and marcos. yeah, the term we use actually sharp power, so we're not only looking at harassment of our vessels and it's all trying to see we're not only looking at cyber attacks against the philippine critical infrastructure. we're also looking at bring, says china, you know, using its influence over a regional over norsen, local government officials are to push agenda against what manella once for the whole country. that's something that the syllabus has to really be referred for vulnerabilities. extremely high 40 percent of the philippines. national grid is controlled by chinese company. chinese engineers are running
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a lot of critical infrastructure in the for being trying to telecom via a filipino partner is also in the philippines has even towers inside military facilities in the philippines multiple times, the philippine main, a part i just shut down this year. so devolved bit these tremendous. that's what, let's hope mark was really prepared for. auto weiss is playing with fire. you know, present, michael junior was in beijing of the start of the he was meeting president though she, after the latest meeting with belt and biden, where are philippines? china ties, right. just the other week, the chinese foreign minister visited the philippines to do the kind of troubleshooting. but it seemed that meeting didn't really go that far after the end of the meeting, all the 2 sides with agreed to was just more communication, china, which is what we had an abundance of abundance of under former president. that was extremely close to china. so it looks like the bilateral relationship is in total crisis right now. but still,
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china has an option. marcus will try to reach out to try and i don't know what he's been offering them. but more importantly, the question is, what he's trying to offer. the philippines because they offered, they really gave the philippines nothing in those 6 years that the re, externally trauma, mid president did that. so i think marcus wants to go back to the chinese again, sooner than later. but he wants to go there with the bargaining. she said that the u. s. alliance could be a bargain, and she also, in his dealings with china, all was a pleasure talking to you. richard, thanks so much for joining us today. richard to darian and that does it for today because of course more on our website with you here tomorrow. goodbye. i'll probably when send me one with the sound of the built in guitar. when it comes to tech, it's got way more trouble from the v y d i. so 3 from china,
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