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good to see you very high as good the theory. show it. now let's just get comfortable with someone. just let me know. sure. i've heard very little about what you guys put in for today's talk. so it's can be pretty much open. but i was watching with a lot of admiration. what you managed to achieve with panama papers. i think that was important. directions got re be of any of a thought. yeah, the panama papers really did change the shape of the conversation. because it so clearly illustrated, these people involved in something that publicly the consensus was this is wrong without people knowing the law because the law was so complex. now the concern that
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i have about this is that the adversaries of a free society recognize this same dynamic where they can use that immediate instinctual reaction. and this is wrong, and they can use this for anti social purposes. we see this happening and hungry was he was having placed like the united states. we see this happening with the breaks at campaign, new k. there is a kind of journalism that's been used actively to mislead and misinformed the public these liberal and open societies that we inherited they're not guaranteed. they only exist to the collective efforts of many people. now we are entering this darker moment that everybody can see everybody can feel things are changing. and if we don't stop that, if journalists aren't thinking on that scale,
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where's that going to lead us in the me, i morgan, good morning. who's in this peevish on this most, really to put it plainly. investigative journalism lives largely from whistleblowers in people who witness wrongdoings and share the information, or possibly even proof of the documents with journalists name like snowed. and it has thing. that's why we must keep in mind that every attack on whistleblowers and every attempt occur whistleblowers rights is also an effort to restrict
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investigative journalism in this to get even charlie's most can i go many whistleblowers have acted out of ignoble modem. so what counts is and how important is this story for people in the end, if the story is important, you have to do it. most of them on the news in is broken from human. we were approached by someone who wanted to show us material from
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a european country where awesome several of the people involved believe in it had the potential to topple a government written lawyer to coordinate this cause this because on it, you can see things, hut, lab, someone who's a member of government shouldn't say i shouldn't promise thousands of in shouldn't do min mclean and young nick. now we've watched for aiden how many hours is hungry of 4 feet of something is in last time. 4 hours and another half hour to dana owned, the vis, voluminous merchant glinda. the reason we are sitting here with these funny looking glasses on among yes, it's a technology that on. if you look at this screen without wearing these glasses, all you see is a white screen of the, of, of it from flood when you put on these ridiculous glasses for then you see what's really on the screen with any of him. they do this to ensure we can't film it and video, but as it's still not yet clear when or if we can write about the material that's
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being shown to us on her was home insidious because we had to cut the greatest difficulty. i see is that logistically, we still have so much to do to prepare for day eggs when it all kicks off, sandals, because then everything must go very quickly and a lot of things have to happen simultaneously. party for seamless. it will those feelings in? hm. i mean, what we've seen here is enough for a terrific story. another minute after this, at least one of the 2 will be gone. and the other is, who knows how good they are at crisis management of a. but if even half of their stuff is true, it done one wheel supposedly get from this person, this inside or inside of a common. it will blow up the entire party. so she is going to put me with
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so i wanted to speak to you briefly about project x 6. it's been dragging on for months yet and only now the 1st developments taking place with isn't to still don't know if or when de x will come to the ultimate when these people will contact us and say you can have the material on these videos in which high ranking politicians are possibly discussing corruption. cope's orange platen, a middle man, the middleman has shown us the video and says when de x comes and we can have all the material, couldn't come tomorrow and then basically bring it out whenever we want. vis. believe so far, there's been no contact between the informants in your thirties in public prosecute difference. somebody in the who had another likely to know that the thirty's know nothing about what happened there. people are there,
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shot for not missed receipt of us from your viewpoint in 4 months did inform and to approach to the with the story in danger. any defeat to over 40. and i can't imagine this organization resorting to violence somehow and since and, but on the other hand, some of the people in this party used to belong to violent organization devoted to, that's a tough call share. the question is, what can should we do now? and as from my perspective, we can only way can see what the players decide police are investigating the killing of one of multiple best node investigative journalist does not. yesterday, daphne cut one. yeah. with the victims a combo man taps fine looking, there's a black hole to, according to a field meters away. lloyd, an appalling murder, and another reminder of the dangerous journalist, faith all around the world. ah,
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me calling. we're meeting a group of colleagues here to try to collectively investigate the murder of daphne cut one. i got a dozen cooling and she's a colleague who also worked on the panama paper. she was killed by a car bomb on the thing. that's why we're making a concerted effort to pick her story up again along with the guardian on the new york times. and a few others. we want these people to realize that when they kill a journalist, their story will attract more attention,
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rather than laughing. i think it's really tough to experience this because i know her son matthew quite well. and since i'm familiar with some of the topics she covered in kind of a payment and of course you automatically think about your own live a fake with i'm going to go to mother's office in what if so naturally i think more about security now than ever before for an attorney in linda, whoever it was, they decided they wanted to stop her investigation by killing her. don't kiddo come along,
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if that's now the new normal slona more than investigative work will stop. oh gosh, no fun us michelle's home. what i worry about is that mainstream politicians have launched angry verbal attacks on journalists. this kind of things and in this kind of climate and violent assault is just the next logical sebastian. mm. she could have been killed because she had a fight with the neighbor or an argument with her grocer. she was definitely killed because of what she rocked. i think it stands to reason. so yes, i think this was a, a, a political assist. ah gentlemen, we still haven't gotten our heads around what happened in malta jesus. meanwhile, it doesn't start, isn't a lot unclear john quotes jak,
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another colleague we worked with on the panama papers, has also been murdered. it's hard to wrap your head around to have on emphasizing that we have various data storage devices with video materials. these are the sticks that were in all the cameras. ok. it seemed there were 6 cameras there. all the original systems. here are the original sd cards that were inserted on pizza even so just from the network, so to speak, the videos for minutes, 40 seconds long and shot only in the living room. i think that means we have no exterior video when they were outside in the beginning. we have 6
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different ones. oh, okay, good. so i haven't watched all of them yet, but most of what we've seen has been in this room on here are hair and fowl good and was sitting there this, this video quality is quite good. good to me. and the sound to the sounds, not good to me, be aware of it as a me am i to
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be now were frantically trying to make as many copies as possible from novices and as long as when i saw this for the 1st time a year ago, what at the time i just saw a little bit only a quarter of an hour and then in the fall, i think you can, i saw the whole video for me and we never had it here. and as long as we haven't got it here, we can't write about it. because if they sue us, we need to have the video on hand. and now we have it since last night. this is for data triggered endings. i of the spirals and eliminate everyone's getting more and more nervous stuff. i think this spiral will end with the publication and that,
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and then i don't know what will happen then things will explode. who did one of the office to play and open the resolution with because we've had the video since last night. it is okay and says to $79.00, and it's actually not just one video. rather they filmed this house, this meaning using 6 cameras with them. this for mission trenice bit for me as the crucial thing is that we don't neglect our due diligence or not right up until the end. of course, we must carry out everything having to do with the research i left with the same precision we were deploy. if the evidence wasn't so good and wendy believed login in any case, if we must maintain this standard, right to the end of close of info,
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send it to going, they're going to attack us massively, some director of its own, the entire right wing camp will say we're letting ourselves be instrumental. i in a kim, right before the election. we're meeting with criminals with us, with the assets and, and spiegel, working together. i think we can clear that all up just fine, but we mustn't make any mistakes in the fit of with
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that they get something in return. exactly. can we say it's illegal? this type of party don't what they're talking about, what they're offering and compensation come from the corner by in the corona newspaper to help the freedom party with the audio quality. so crappy food lawn, chavez. as soon as you take over the corn, a newspaper we need to talk to later at the corner, we have chopped, chopped, co, 3 or 4 people. we need out to the missing 3 or 4. get the acts up. so good. as this is guns, ground and the others crystal clear and see it. and then afterwards he says again, ok, you finance it, you have control or something like that. it's so explicit. and so, and so i think for a 1st charge um and short comes in
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corruption eruption of from the corrupt promise of, of the post harbor gets kicked out the 1st week there for the coolant. she promises to buy half the corner newspaper and give him good press. of course she wants something in return. he says she should found a company like the construction firms law bag. and then he literally says install bog and it c e o would get no more contracts. and once he's in office, know all the public tender star bog now receives would be hers. does others are not on a legal for time to escape? the other thing is you legal party funding because of the foundations in the discussion about how they could lead money flow together. so please listen carefully as the thought these are, it's like this, and they say if you like us, then you should donate a vote that's on your sprint. and then the stool pigeon asks to the party,
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the local under book. no, no, no. a lynx benefits were you donating to then if a party donation doesn't go to the party, it's no longer a party donation. it's being turned into something else. and in both of these cases, a politicians position is normally unattainable because in my book ah, it says that with one i most to see one person again who's homeowner, long time, no, see the listening on things are getting a bit tight. it's going to barely through typing it out when the host, now we're going to print it and duplicate and lay it all out. and then we can go
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over the spots. we're not too sure about yet. did you understand everything else has been on a fossil man? we also have a rough version. let's just undergone a bit of fine tuning for them. i wanted us to have it by last night, obviously because numbed to sudden. okay. let's go over the purely technical aspect again. we the sequence of events. yes, l watson. does that make sense? okay. of i do that though, as far as we know or can reconstruct it. and she was presented to them as the rich niece of an oligarchy. and she was said to have a lot of money that she wanted to invest somewhere under a quarter of a $1000000000.00 euros. familiar. this isn't all really odd. they don't ask to see her passport and they don't know who she is or who he is. if they meet with them, talk about money and somehow promised them half of austria was dice over we can well, we need to think through is why are they so naive? luckily this, why are they doing all this? why don't they ask for id? why are they talking about these things that way?
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we could it be that someone setting a trap for us here? yes. ah. blue to the video quality of the video quality is quite good time. plaza, diesel scholarship. at times there's image noise, which is partly visible here in music to, for those a compression artifacts. if i do, i do that often that indicates the use of extremely tiny hidden cameras on own was it hits also. and what i see now at the start use when i go through the entire video like this, i also see every single manipulation, the heating money put out soon. okay? so okay, super and time. what's crucial are these 2 here in dc. that's who we're interested in oakland, and we suspect that the cameras the under, from what it,
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i suspect it's in the light switch, which is missing here. this is a transport to let a lot of defense items. it could be that it was added later than upward, but technically speaking, light switches with recording devices are now on the market fair. this one seems to me to be placed a bit too high and close to the wanted, who no person would actually put it there and he can. but this a very high probability that it really did take place in this villa with fear were, were shiny. i don't develop ah, with than the dished mother personally or not. it was like my mom. yes. send it to her mom. what's that? i've already checked and he's on it to dennis too. though it says not to call him only texting is a gazillion older than most of the come nurse,
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no email me to it's been ages since i felt nervous about sending something like this on washington. hold off for a minute. if something goes wrong, we'll get blasted. but we've read an over 18 times. now. vancleav is not hostile. with what i'm saying, our tone is neither hostile nor judgmental. i'm sending stuff has now. and now good day, newsome. great. they're gone. no, it gets interesting. ah . as messina, texas, i can be finished custody of his ian. oh, of course we understand that this isn't actually allowed. so we also see that these are people. oh,
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great public interest in this provides an insight into their character and then you recognize their voices. and that could be to their advantage online. because unlike in a re voice or written version, you can understand the intonation better. so like in this austrian vernacular, law commune agreement, or refusal the twist immigrant up leanings on it kept them as of i am vault is born with the spoken word. it's not possible to put it out there in its original form. i can't simply hand out the tape. i can repeat what was said, hans. i can transcribe it, but for this i need this ultimate interested, much event. that's the most you can ask for, so to speak up and fun. come ok, what can happen to us? it sounds stupid, but section 2012, a one right. therapy his mother yesterday, andreas said it's 30 daily fines and you can't do it any more or something like that than i'd say. so what? so what other of it, you know, personally responsible, right?
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it's easy to say i hear my department headset so well, ma'am it been a bit? well, if you look at how important this documentation is, it is the one that's illness. it was section 2, a one states, whoever had without being authorized to do sort of one makes an audio recording of the privately spoken words of another ought to use it all, makes a recording, thus produced available to a 3rd party and incurred a penalty of imprisonment for a term not exceeding 3 years or a fine good thing about using or making available. the 3rd party asked him, right? so, but then comes of the act referred to in sentence one. number 2, only entails criminal liability if the public communication is suited to interfering with the legitimate interests of another under to the interesting teeth . it is not unlawful if the public communication was made for the purposes of safeguarding overriding public interests. and that is in my point of view, the case here. it's in the public interest to make it nurse, this becomes
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a mom. he finishes leap. not only feldman vittles f, i think people will accuse us of publishing fake news because it's a trap. we didn't sat in, we just got the goods that are ta, they'll totally take a run at us. ok if we don't have the right to do it. if fin, but i think you need to hear him and you must hear how he argues here. now here, i don't know struggles with himself, colonel mity kemp the all, and keep saying how things must be legal factors and then offer something which is anything by the legal. that's what makes it so gripping, of course. but math is also tradition of this mac. you also dingey my glance at it from had also ask you to consider basically in the wing of interests that here it's not really about exposing a, at least not to our knowledge, a committed offense, gone. rather it's about how shall i put it? lots of dirty thoughts went on feeling like a donkey. this notice that there are things that with
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a vice chancellor need to come to light. the question is, do we need the sound on tape for that or not 5, any. all from the trouble was he doesn't want to make the decision somehow bggm in in oh, a call from austria on the number on the consumer of the but on speaker fiscal the filter. hello. hello. hello, i'm good day. good. how are you? yeah, it all. i've got company right now is, is it urgent?
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this is ali as all it been his own own. well, if it's about something that was called something like post from us to you and then the right person to talk to is my colleague. oberman is as i knew, my colleagues were my out i was yes, there i actually i can, i know what it's about. it's a very delicate matter, but i can't, it's coming. it's been, i'm in the room with my colleague over my i can post the phone over to him even as wow yeah. yes, but i just can't even,
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i can't talk about it for professional reasons. can they? i can pass you on to my colleague of mine. yeah. how does it? hello, good day, boston old. only i here. oh, no lord, no, you're on speakerphone. no load load, right? you're on speakerphone and there are others in the room, federally obama, and another colleague, yanna angelica gov. if you get in touch, we'd be glad to hear from you. we've sent you a few questions and would be pleaseland. has a different the does is it's funny. so yes, i don't think it's so common. we've a matter to investigate and have some questions about it and we're asking you, and i don't think that's odd, actually it's completely normal pencil and we be pleased to get answers that are as
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comprehensive as possible. and we presume that we'll get them to problem. oh, get out of an o's. this was pretty quick. oh, why shouldn't you responded roles wouldn't feldwood. okay, winnable. okay. wonderful. live in a fun home and innovative income. if you still have questions, if we can help you call any time no, vince with the okay. if you talk to hash ta hung, he'll remember this one and he can tell you more than if it was as it seems. then hash tahoe was there not me so he probably knows more than i do, nosey. thank you. duncan fish read that until later than phyllis that he called you as well. and if there was sure he wanted you to tell him what we're doing there, calling around to find out what we've got little mm
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. what are some of it of them? which brings us back to the topic of immigrants who come with kids who haven't worked an hour, but net $3500.00 euros a month or more. not that no one understands that. and so tell me what so socially minded or fair about how things have been going. i say nothing neat as information asked for the legal aspects. for me, it's clear there are different opinions when it comes to the question of whether we can show the video with image and sound, right? it's about where the politicians can be bought. the coffee can how corruptible, the politician who holds an important position in a country's government really is in an in land. and from my point of view on this is, this is an instance which is of overriding public interest. so that's why after considering all the points, the play a role of table, i've come to the conclusion, the will to keep missed as it is mom. how stick the main
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piece soon followed until 10, the questions and answers don't come. i'll take care of that, who'll right about the corona newspaper and the freedom party. i'll do the freedom party. i'll do the crohn, the mamma. nothing couldn't do something on good d new. she's kind of shocked as heavy the month as colbert bunched. ha. yet the articles must be submitted with put notes. every fact, every claim must come with evidence even not really with that. so where it's from the standard from march, 17 or whatever. right? so how we prove it in court should that back be challenged? latin martin vendor. unfortunately we have the answers for both both martino sorry . i forgot you were still on the line. uh huh. and good day and was just replied on what's out? got it. okay. for relaxed and boozy atmosphere, language barriers, no donations were ever made. and nothing else happened this. ready is awesome,
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thanks for the soul. none of it happened. yes. this time of they write about up reported latvian citizen. that bothers me to know if you gentlemen, any i o, i know why they're doing that by the because they russia, boyd wilson's they won were void. russia, russian money. but he's been there talking about vladimir that hoover flooding. mia? she has contact to deal with trying to make it look harmless unless it's just latvia just the little brother little okay. personal replies not from their spokespeople. i think the trying to keep this on the rags violent bounced clung and clearly we need a passage that we can cite in opposition and say, hey, you knew there was a russian background, baird, this almost as a handle on dies. so really something you'd present as evidence in court,
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the falling nguyen of will take it to the lawyers, then will you compile everything to do with moscow? ali often for you, the angles that we have a document showing how we can prove she was from moscow as feels like as that's what they allow. but this is the theoretically, alas, how can we prove that they knew she was russian invisible? the sienna wasn't as i was got, got it with her juris for years. the lead. thank it. ignore what's down below is left over at if they get it. okay. i'll proof it for you to well get the flu. some of you too. thanks. yeah. yeah. with the other. yeah. you just wrote the techs are already, most of them are already,
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but i think there are 5 or 6 text lying upstairs, you know, i think that's good thing to help. right? you're the main article. of course, we don't have that yet. any money that's long enough. she bins on this bill. now we've got just 27 hours till publication and no text is actually finished to the point where we could say it's ready to publish right now. and then could and again, now we'd certainly and it has this, but it's that means it'll be a rough ride to fact check things again, if you go through and change every text with the lawyer or saddam we're investigating and planning to publish could change these people's lives, so of course you want to be 100 percent. sure. that mother natalie. there's always something that you want to look at or double check off on food in. it's not as if you can just leave it all the office when you go home and then you can spend a peaceful evening with your family funds. it has nothing to hold osgood hanging on during the complet. you do take some of that home with human in for 1000000 oven
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starters on the slip and from it, i mean, is it unseen? had cancer, no rush, any cat? it's a probability bordering uncertainty. that's how i had it. it's not a fake, not in the slightest, as the material is a 100 percent authentic. montoya, as was going to ricky schon, hadn't faced on the years, for example, i could identify a toe to match for both those people and the moon but buys are there. you're really on the safe side. okay. and does and says fictitious of to seizure and side yeah. he at the here we have their response then stood another. flynn was born in the meeting you addressed took place in a relaxed, informal, and boozy holiday atmosphere. that absolutely got to go in good done when done. and then they tried to put a spin on the whole thing and then thinking of both of them because they say the purported latvian citizen or mit feed,
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which is to evade allegations about russian money. if you ask me div vip, the goose full for shamartha greeter, or they greet one another, and he says, you're from moscow. i've been there many times. give if they know full well, she's russian for the question is now, do we leave it out entirely and say it's laughable and common in my view, it's irrelevant that we don't need it. it's not a central. okay. yes, sometimes. and that helps when writing well, an obama m, we've never talked about it to be honest because act who makes those kinds of decisions on and title
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mm. in him the of can in this be law secretly film the video is putting pressure on austrian vice chancellor hines. chris jones tratta from the freedom party and several film and sound recordings that were leaked to the so deutsch at zeitung and spiegel magazine, the right wing populous promised purportedly rich russian woman reportedly. or yeah, i think the allegedly rich russian woman or wilson is that okay. yeah, sure. i was honest. the russian hutton also interested in those or have we used that already with,
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with all the copying back and forth and i've forgotten what's where is this why i have it the thing hobbies new have a much time left focus centers. grandma. okay. i know, but it's important if you look following the example, sat by hon gary and president 7 and i minister in victor or barn with an accident that was with want that one. no, not one thing to, sir. there's hardly any critical media left with combo. no, the gilmore could have him again. government critical media to him. okay. and send it right to
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speak to night. there should beagle and the pseudo to tighten. i knew the secret video this bleaching could incriminate. austrian vice chancellor. sh daughter of the freedom, a beloved country. this is the video recorded secretly as a villa on the spanish island visa, i have an absolute state of emergency that probably captures the mood and austria best. 2000 is demand in new leadership in front of the counselors office. you the given can. the austrian government is under increasing pressure morton. i offered my resignation as vice chancellor of africa. hon probably stepping down after the publication hidden camera footage. after yesterday's video, i must say quite honestly enough is enough. it's kinda fallout from her call. her scandal continues for you to tell you by now. serious chancellor sebastian kurtz has just lost a vote of no confidence in the parliament the 1st time. not just a chance luck, but in fact,
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his whole government has been brought down of mazda in the front page story. who put that together for i can do that. i see this, it'd be good if you would use 50 test. if i, i don't much more, it's important to me in everything we do tomorrow that we refrain from displays of triumph in any form. ok. so not look at the great thing we've achieved. rather we, for a soberly, just keep home with our reporting. we have no grounds for tramp the antenna. understood. i mean, if we did have that on my buttons and it'd be because we did terrific journalistic work. but it's not because something's happened there politically this. i'd like to avoid all that because we to, for my what we do to die to morrow and in the days to come next target. my. okay, good, good. and then this get down to work right now
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