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women's world cup were bundled as an extra with the men's rights. but infant tina said, fif and now needs to earn more from broadcasters. in order to finance the money. it's committed to players and teams, which has tripled since the last world cup. if an agreement can't be reached, it could be a real blow to the women's game just when it's more popular than ever. well, that's it from us from now. but the documentary doc film, looking at japanese newspapers and reporting of political scandals, that's up next after the break d w dot com for more news as always, just not just another day. so much is happening all at once. we take time to understand this is the day and in depth look at current news, events analyzed by experts and critical thinkers. and this is the
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so what i show is that let's just get comfortable with someone thought, just let me know. sure. i've heard very little about what you guys put in for today's talk. so it can be pretty much open. but i was watching with a lot of admiration. what you managed to achieve with panama papers, i think that was important directions. got re be of any of a thought. yeah. the panama papers really did change the shape of the conversation . because it so clearly illustrated, these people involved in something that publicly the consensus was this is wrong without people knowing the law because the law was so complex. now, the concern that i have about this is that the adversaries of
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a free society recognize this same dynamic where they can use that immediate instinctual reaction. this is wrong, and they can use this for anti social purposes. we see this happening and hungry. we see what's happening, place like the united states. we see this happening with the breakfast campaign in the u. k. there is a kind of journalism that's being used actively to mislead and misinform the public . these liberal and open societies that we inherited they're not guaranteed. they only exist to the collective efforts of many people. now, we are entering this darker moment that everybody can see everybody can feel things are changing. and if we don't stop that, if journalists aren't thinking on that scale,
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where's that going to lead us in the me, i morgan. good morning. who's in this to get this most relieved to put it plainly. investigative journalism lives largely from whistleblowers in people who witness wrongdoing. and share the information, or possibly even proof of the documents with journalists name like snowed and it has thing. that's why we must keep in mind that every attack on whistleblowers and every attempt curb whistleblowers rights is also an effort to restrict
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investigative journalism in this to get even journalist most can i go many whistleblowers have acted out of ignoble modem. so what counts is and how important is this story for people in the end, if the story is important, you have to do it. most of them on the news. i problem from you when we were approached by someone who wanted to show us material from a year, a peon country where awesome several of the people involved believe in it had the
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potential to topple a government written lawyer to close that this causes because on it you can see things hot labs, someone who's a member of government shouldn't say i shouldn't promise sentences in shouldn't do, man i was making a video. nick, now we've watched for him how many hours his humvee of 4 feet of something is in last time, 4 hours and another half hour to dana owned the video, voluminous merchant glinda. the reason we're sitting here with these funny looking glasses on among yes, it's a technology that on. if you look at the screen without wearing these glasses, all you see is a white screen though of, of it from flood when you put on these ridiculous glasses for then you see what's really on the screen didn't the of whom they do this to ensure we can't film it and video, but as it's still not yet clear when or if we can write about the material that's
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being shown to us on her was home. if it goes to sheer to cut the greatest difficulty, i see is that logistically, we still have so much to do to prepare for day x when it all kicks off sandals, because then everything must go very quickly and a lot of things have to happen simultaneously. party for seamless it will those feelings in? hm. i mean, what we've seen here is enough for a terrific story. another minute after this, at least one of the 2 will be gone. and the other, who knows how good they are at crisis management of a. but if even half of this stuff is true, it done what we'll supposedly get from this person, this insider instead of a common, it will blow up the entire party. so she is going to protect me with
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and i wanted to speak to you briefly about project x 6. it's been dragging on for months yet and only now the 1st developments taking place this bill don't know if or when day x will come when these people will contact us and say you can have the material on these videos in which high ranking politicians are possibly discussing corruption called zones place a middle man, the middleman has shown us the video and says when de x comes from and we can have all the material couldn't come from and then basically bring it out whenever we want. vis. believe so far, there's been no contact between the informants in your thirties in public prosecutor, for instance, in the who had another so nicely to know that the 30s know nothing about what
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happened. people had shot you for not missed your feet of us. from your viewpoint in 4 months did the informant to approach to the with the story in danger. and he defeated is always assaulted underneath. i can't imagine this organization resorting to violence somehow on the 5th since and lunchtime. but on the other hand, some of the people in this party used to belong to violent organisation vote had been with us. that's a tough call. share with the question is yes, what can should we do now? and as he from my perspective, i hope we can only wait and see what the play as to sy police are investigating the killing of one of motors. best known investigative journalist daphne yesterday. definitely katerina glitzy, i was the victim of the car bombing map and taps. i'm looking dash glass rolled her car into a field meters away, slide it an appalling murder. and another reminder of the dangerous journalist face all around the world. in
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atlanta, over for a cleaning or meeting, a group of colleagues here to try to collectively investigate the murder of daphne cutter. one gallia does include league and she's a colleague who also worked on the panama papers to know the one with. she was killed by a car bomb on the same road and that's why we're making a concerted effort to pick her story up again. along with the guardian on the new york times, limone, personally, and a few others i've avoiding us. we want these people to realize that when they kill a journalist, their story will attract more attention to them rather than laughing athena.
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so it's really tough to experience this because i know her son matthew quite well. and since i'm familiar with some of the topics, she covered kind of opinion, and of course you automatically think about your own, my las vegas. i'm going to go to mother talk to the live. what if so naturally, i think more about security now than ever before, for an attorney in the linda, whoever it was, they decided they wanted to stop her investigation by killing her. don't kiddo come
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on if that's now the new normal slona more than investigative work will stop. oh gosh, no phone essential. so what i worry about is that mainstream politicians have launched angry verbal attacks on journalists, this kind of things and, and this kind of climate and violent assault is just the next logical to dash with me. she couldn't have been killed because she has a fight with the neighbor or an argument with her grocer. she was definitely killed because of what she rocked. i think it stands to reason. so yes, i think this was a, a, a political assistant ah, then flynn. we still haven't gotten our heads around what happened in malta jesus. meanwhile, it doesn't start into a lot in collin, john cook's jak,
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another colleague we worked with on the panama papers, has also been murdered. it's hard to wrap your head around to have on the emphasis. we have various data storage devices with video materials, and these are the sticks that were in all the cameras. ok. it seemed there were 6 camera all the original systems here are the original sd cards that were inserted on a pizza. so even just in the network, so to speak, the videos for minutes, 40 seconds long and shot only in the living room. i think that means we have no exterior video when they were outside in the beginning we have 6
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now were frantically trying to make as many copies as possible from just as long as when i saw this for the 1st time a year ago. but at the time i just saw a little bit only a quarter of an hour, and then in the fall, i think you can, i saw the whole video and i love, we never had it here. and as long as we haven't got it here, we can't write about it. because if they sue us, we need to have the video on hand. and now we have it since last night. this is for data triggered endings i of the spirals and eliminate everyone's getting more and more nervous stuff to see. i think this spiral will end with the publication and
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that, and then i don't know what will happen then things will explode. who did one of the office the good and open the resolution with because we've had the video since last night news. okay. when says to $79.00 and it's actually not just one video. rather they filmed this house, this meaning using 6 cameras with them. this for mission transmitted for me as the crucial thing is that we don't neglect our due diligence or not right up until the end. of course, we must carry out everything having to do with the research i left with the same precision we were deploy. if the evidence wasn't so good and when did delete login in any case, if we must maintain this standard, right to the anthem, close of info, send it to going. they're going to attack us massively, some director of its own,
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that they get something in return. exactly. can we say it's illegal? this type of party don't what they're talking about, what they're offering and compensation come from the corner by in the corona newspaper to help the freedom party and with the audio quality is so crappy. shifted lawn chavez. as soon as you take over the corn, a newspaper we need to talk to later at the corner, we have chopped, chopped cole, and 3 or 4 people. we need out to the missing 3 of full get the acts up. so good as this is guns, ground and so on, those crystal clear and see it. and then afterwards he says again, okay, you finance it, you have control or something like that. it's so explicit. and so, and i think for a 1st charge um and short and
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corruption eruption from the corrupt promise of a false taba gets kicked out the 1st week there for the quote she promises to buy half the kona newspaper and give him good press. of course she wants something in return. he says she should found a company like the construction firms law bog. then he literally says install bog and it's c e o would get no more contracts once he's in office. no. all the public tender starbuck now receives would be hers this? oh really got it for times on a scale. the other thing is you legal party funding because of the foundations on the discussion about how they could lead money flows against till fees lesson continental as a thought d. so it's like this and they say if you like us, then you should donate a vote through sprint and then the stool pigeon asks to the party or for lunch,
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but no, no, no, no, no, i mean, furnace were you donating to then if a party donation doesn't go to the party, it's no longer a party donation. it's being turned into something else. and in both of these cases, a politicians position is normally untenable, tacoma. ah, it says there was a hey hey john i most to see you in person against examiner long time. no. see the listening on things are getting a bit tight. if go barely through typing it out of blue ones as well. now we're going to print it and duplicate and lay it all out. and then we can go over the
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spots. we're not too sure about yet. did you understand everything else has been on the fossil man? we also have a rough version. let's just undergone a bit of fine tuning for them. i wanted us to have it by last night. obviously was his mom's discipline. ok. let's go over the purely technical aspect again. we the sequence of events. yes, l. watson. does that make sense? okay, of i'd be that though, as far as we know or can reconstruct it and she was presented to them as the rich niece of an oligarchy. and she was said to have a lot of money that she wanted to invest somewhere under a quarter of a $1000000000.00 euros. familiar to visit all really odd. they don't ask to see her passport me. they don't know who she is or who he is. if they meet with them, talk about money and somehow promised them half of austria this dice over we can, well, we need to think through is why are they so naive looking is why are they doing all this? why don't they ask for id? why are they talking about these things that way?
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could it be that some one setting a trap for us here? ah. with the video quality video quality is quite good time. plaza, diesel caution at times there's image noise, which is partly visible here in music to, for those a compression artifacts. as i do, i do that often. that indicates the use of extremely tiny, hidden cameras on own was the hits also and what i see now at the start use when i go through the entire video like this. i also see every single manipulation, leave you the money pronounced shawn. okay? so okay, super in time, what's crucial are these 2 here, dc, that's who we're interested in oakland. and we suspect that the camera,
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the under from what did i suspect it's in the light switch which is missing here. this is a fun spot to let a lot of distance items. it could be that it was added later than awkward. but technically speaking, light switches with recording devices are now on the market on fair. this wrong seems to me to be placed a bit too high and close to the warnings, who no person would actually put it there and he can. but this a very high probability that it really did take place in this villa. mid sale were were shiny. i don't de la. ah. send a dish to mother personally or not. it was like my mom. yes. send it to her mom. what's that? i've already checked and he's on it. good dentist too, though it says not to call him only text it is a gazillion a little almost if they come nervous that
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e mail me too. it's been ages since i felt nervous about sending something like this on washington cloth. when if something goes wrong, we'll get blasted, but we've read an over 18 times now. lot frontier. it's not hostile. with what i said, what i'm saying, our tone is neither hostile nor judgmental. i'm sending stuff has now. and now godinez great. are gone. no, it gets interesting. ah as messina, texas english finished custody of his ian. oh, of course we understand that this isn't actually allowed. and we also see that these are people. oh,
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great public interest in this provides an insight into their character and then you recognize their voices. and that could be to their advantage online. because unlike in a re voice or written version, you can understand the intonation better. so like in this austrian vernacular, law commune agreement, or refusal to sim, good, an op leanings on it kept them as of i am vault is born with the spoken word. it's not possible to put it out there in its original form. i can't simply hand out the tape. i can repeat what was said, hans, i can transcribe it always, but for this i need this ultimate interest much event. that's the most you can ask for. so just looking up and find, come, what can happen to us? it sounds stupid, but section 2012, a one right. thrilled his mother yesterday. andreas said it's 30 daily fines and you can't do it any more or something like that than i'd say. so what sort of a, you know, personally responsible, right? it's easy to say i hear my department headset so well, ma'am it been
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a bit? well, if you look at how important this documentation is, it is the one that's on it. when i section 2 or one states, whoever read without being authorized to do sort of one makes an audio recording of the privately spoken words of another or to use it or makes a recording, thus produced available to a 3rd party. and the get brought in cause a penalty of imprisonment for a term not exceeding 3 years or a fine even think about using are making available. the 3rd party asked him, right so, but then comes of the act referred to in sentence one. number 2, only entails criminal liability if the public communication is suited to interfering with the legitimate interests of another under to the eye taking teeth . it is not unlawful if the public communication was made for the purposes of safeguarding overriding public interests. and that is, in my point of view, the case here, it's in the public interest to make it nurse,
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it becomes more if in the leafnode turn the film and videos, i think people will accuse us of publishing fake news because it's a trap. we didn't that we just got the goods, they will totally take a run at us. ok if we don't have the right to do it. but i think you need to hear him and you must hear how he argues. here. i don't know struggles with himself can mentally kemp the old plan, keep saying how things must be legal and then offer something which is anything by the legal that's what makes it so gripping of course, but not as alteration as mercury. also we think mcglenn said he wanted to also ask you to consider basically in the wing of interests that here it's not really about exposing, at least not to our knowledge, a committed offense. rather it's about how shall i put it in lots of dirty thoughts, but i think it does not. there are things that with
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a vice chancellor need to come to light. the question is, do we need the sound on tape for that or not? 5? when we got to make the decision, somehow i choose choose a call from austria, unknown number on the company that are on speaker go to hello. hello, hello. good day. how likely to go company right
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now it urgent. this is iris adult business own own. if it's about something that was called something like post from us to you than the right person to talk to his my colleague over my colleague over my, out of a yes there i actually i can, i know what it's about. it's a very delicate matter. but i can't it's it's been, i'm in the room with my colleague over mine. i can post the phone as well. yeah. yeah. but i just can't. i can't talk about it for professional reasons. can i
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can pass you on to my colleague over mine. how does it? hello, good day boston over here. had a load load your on speakerphone didn't look right. you're on speaker phone and there are others in the room and they go by maya and another colleague answering, i love it. if you get in touch, we'd be glad to hear from you. we've sent you a few questions and would be please send that. does it have gone? he thought yes, i don't think it's so we have a matter to investigate and have some questions about it. and we are asking you, and i don't think that's odd, actually, it's completely normal. and we'd be pleased to get answers that are as
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comprehensive as possible and we presume that we'll get them to come to the us. that's why shouldn't you respond? ok. another okay, wonderful. there's, you know, funny them and it hasn't gone if you still have questions that we can help you call anytime. okay, vince was ok. if you talk to a hash one, he'll remember this and he can tell you more than if it was as it seems. then hash was there, not me. so he probably knows more than i do, nancy. thank you again and just waited until later than there was that he called you as well, but hopefully there was sure he wanted you to tell him what were doing there, calling around to find out what we've got with
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the some of it up and they look which brings us back to the topic. it immigrants who come with kids who haven't worked an hour, but net $3500.00 euros a month or more. not that no one understands that. and so tell me what so socially minded or fair about how things have been going on. i say nothing neat as information asked for the legal aspects. it's clear, there were different opinions when it comes to the question of whether we can show the video with image and sound, right? it's about where the politicians can be bought, the coffee cut and how corruptible, the politician who holds an important position in a country's government really is in an in land. and from my point of view on this is, this is an instance which is of overriding public interest at all. that's why after considering all the points that play a role update, i've come to the conclusion the will do, it will keep missed as if it is. my house took the main piece
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soon followed until 10 questions and answers don't come. i'll take care of that whole right about the krona newspaper and the freedom already. i'll do the freedom party onto the chrome, the mama. nothing. who didn't do something on continues. is kind of shed office heavy. the month is colbert bunched. ha! yet the articles must be submitted with footnotes. every fact, every claim must come with evidence in metabolic with that. so where it's from the standard from march, 17 or whatever. right? so how we prove it in court should that back be challenged? and loving martin from the unfortunate we have the answers for m worthy martino. sorry, i forgot you were still on the line to hi and good day and was just replied on, what's out? ok for relaxed and boozy atmosphere, language barriers, no donations were ever made and nothing else happened. this. ready is awesome, thanks for the soul. none of it happened of yes.
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these home of they write about are purported lat been citizen. that bothers me to know if you're going any i oh, i know why they're doing that by the because they russia, boyland was and they won were void. russia? russian money. but even they're talking about vladimir the, to the flooding. mia? she has contact to. yeah. do that trying to make it look harmless unless it's just latvia just the little brother. okay, personal replies not from their spokespeople. i hear the trying to keep this on the rafters violent bounced, clung and clearly we need a passage that we can cite an opposition and say, hey, you knew there was a russian background, baird, this almost as i enter one dies. so really something you'd present as evidence and
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courtney falling nguyen of we'll take it to the lawyers, then will you compile everything to do with moscow? only open for the info. so we have a document showing how we can prove she was from moscow deals because that's what they allow, but this is the, alaska. how can we prove that they knew she was russian in both the sienna was in us. i just got it with her juris did for years. the lead thank is good because a little that ignore but down below is left over at if they get it. okay. all proof it for you to welcome to some of you too. thanks. yeah, yeah. with the other one. yeah. you just wrote the texts are already most of them
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are already, but i think there are 5 or 6 text lying upstairs, you know i think that's going to help. right. you're the main article. of course, we don't have that money. that's long enough. she means on this bill now we've got just a 27 hours till publication and no text is actually finished to the point where we could say it's ready to publish right now, doesn't include them again. now we could certainly listen and that has been a trap means it'll be a rough right to fact check things again, if you go through and change every text with the lawyer by saddam we're investigating and planning to publish could change these people's lives. so of course you want to be 100 percent. sure. w mother, natalie. there's always something that you want to look at or double check off on food. and it's not as if you can just leave it all at the office when you go home and you can spend a peaceful evening with your family. 100 has nothing to hold asked hanging on during the complet. you do take some of that home when you've been in for 1000000
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oven starters on the slip plant on it. i mean, is it unseen? had jensen of us many cat. it's a probability bordering on certainty. that's what it, it's not a fake, not in the slightest, as the material is 100 percent authentic. montoya as is going to work the sion hadn't faced on the years. for example, i could identify a toe to match for both those people and the moon. but by the there you're really on the safe side. okay. and does and says fictitious of decision side. yeah, he at the here we have their response then said another english, one of them about the meeting you addressed it took place in a relaxed, informal, and boozy holiday atmosphere that absolutely got to go in good done when done. and then they tried to put a spin on the whole thing and didn't think even both of them because they say the
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purported latvian citizen, or mitzi, which is to evade allegations about rush and money. if you ask me of the vip, the goose full for starter greeter, or they greet one another. and he says you're from moscow. i've been there many times. give is they know full well, she's russian for. the question is now, do we leave it out entirely? and say it's laughable and common in my view. it's irrelevant that we don't need it . it's not essential yet. sometimes it that helps when writing well and obama m, we've never talked about it to be honest because act who makes those kinds of decisions and entitle. mm
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and hey me of can in this be law secretly film the video is putting pressure on austrian vice chancellor hines. chris jones tratta from the freedom hardy and several phelman sound recordings that were leaked to the so deutsche, it's i tongue and spiegel magazine, the right wing populace promised purportedly rich russian woman reportedly or yeah, i think the allegedly rich russian woman or orson is that okay, yeah, sure. i was almost the russian but then also interested in those he's or have we used that already with with all the
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copying back and forth and i forgotten what's where is this why i have it the thing, hobbies. well, we have a much time left focus centers, grandma, i know, but it's important to me love following the example, sat by hungarian president, 7 prime minister in victor or barn with an accident that was with what that one? no, that one thing to, sir. there's hardly any critical media left that gives us colon law. now the gillham's could actually do government critical media. ok and send it right to speak to night. there should be eagle and the pseudo to
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tighten happening to secret video this bleaching could incriminate. austrian vice chancellor sh daughter of the freedom party one day. the beloved country. this is the video recorded secretly as a villa on the spanish island of ab, sir. ah, an absolute state of emergency that probably captures the mood in austria best. 2000 is demand in new leadership in front of the counselors office. you the given can. the austrian government is under increasing pressure morton. i offered my resignation as vice chancellor of africa. i'm to book robin stepping down after the publication hidden camera footage. after yesterday's video, i must say quite honestly enough is enough. it's kinda fallout from that call. her scandal continues for you to tell you by now. serious chancellor sebastian kurtz has just lost a vote of no confidence in the parliament the 1st time in not just a chance luck, but in fact,
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his whole government has been brought down of mazda in the front page story. who put that together for? i can do that, i see less, it'd be good if you would muse vicky just see if i, i don't much more. it's important to me in everything we do tomorrow that we refrain from displays of triumph in any form. ok. so not look at the great thing we've achieved. rather we for a soberly, just keep home with our reporting. we have no grounds for tramp your hometown understood. i mean, if we did have that on my license and it'd be because we did terrific journalistic work. but it's not because something's happened there politically this. well, i'd like to avoid all that because it is for my in what we do to die to morrow and in the days to come next target. my. okay, good, good. and then this get down to work, right? mm. mm
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