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sure. i i've heard very little about what you guys play for today's talk. so it's gonna be pretty much open. but i was watching with a lot of admiration. what you managed to achieve with panama papers. i think that was important. directions got re be of any of a thought. yeah, the panama papers really did change the shape of the conversation. because it so clearly illustrated, these people involved in something, it publicly, the consensus was this is wrong without people knowing the law because the law was so complex. now the concern that i have about this is that

the adversaries of a free society recognize this same dynamic where they can use that immediate instinctual reaction. this is wrong, and they can use this for anti social purposes. we see this happening in hungary. we see this happening places like the united states. we see this happening with the breaks at campaign in the u. k. there is a kind of journalism that's being used actively to mislead and misinform the public . these liberal and open societies that we inherited they're not guaranteed. they only exist to the collective efforts of many people. now, we are entering this darker moment that everybody can see everybody can feel things are changing. and if we don't stop that, if journalists aren't thinking on that scale,

where's that going to lead us in the me, i morgan. good morning. who's in this to get this most relieved to put it plainly. investigative journalism lives largely from whistleblowers in people who witness wrongdoing. and share the information, or possibly even proof of the documents with journalists like snowden, s thing, cuz that's why we must keep in mind that every attack on whistleblowers and every attempt occur. whistleblowers rights is also an effort to restrict investigative journalism in this to get even journalist most can

i go many whistleblowers have acted out of ignoble modem. so what counts is, how important is this story for people in the end? if the story is important, you have to do it. most of them on the i in doing is broken from human. we were approached by someone who wanted to show us material from a european country where awesome several of the people involved believe in it had

the potential to topple a government written law to global this causes because on it, you can see things hut lot you some one who's a member of government shouldn't say i shouldn't promise thousands of in shouldn't do, man. i make it in a video miss. now we've watched for aiden how many hours is hungry of you for fearful news in last time. 4 hours and another half hour today. and the video is voluminous noise melinda, the reason we're sitting here with these funny looking glasses on them. yes, it's a technology that on. if you look at this screen without wearing these glasses, all you see is a white screen though of, of it from flood when you put on these ridiculous glasses for then you see what's really on the screen within the of whom they do this to ensure we can't film it and then yeah, but as it's still not yet clear when or if we can write about the material that's

being shown to us on her was home. if it is close to sheer to cut the greatest difficulty, i see is that logistically, we still have so much to do to prepare for day eggs when it all kicks off, sandals, because then everything must go very quickly and a lot of things have to happen simultaneously, poorly for seamless with feelings in hm. i mean, what we've seen here is enough for a terrific story. another minute after this, at least one of the 2 will be gone. and the other, who knows how good they are at crisis management of a. but if even half of this stuff is true, it done what we'll supposedly get from this person, this inside of a common it will blow up the entire party. so she's going to put her me with

and i wanted to speak to you briefly about project x x it's been dragging on for months yet and only now the 1st developments taking place isn't perfectly still don't know if or when day acts will come. when these people will contact us and say that you can have the material all these videos in which high ranking politicians are possibly discussing corruption, called zones place. a middle man, the middleman has shown us the video and says when de x comes from and we can have all the material couldn't come from here and then basically couldn't bring it out whenever we want. this was believe so far, there's been no contact between the informants in your thirties, in public prosecutor, for instance, who had another so nicely to know the 30 know nothing about what happened. people are the shot you for not missed your feet of your fish. from your viewpoint in 4

months did inform and to approached us with the story in danger and you fear to is always assaulted underneath. i can't imagine this organisation resorting to violence somehow on the 5th since and luncheon. but on the other hand, some of the people in this party used to belong to violent organization vote had been with us. that's a tough call share. the question is yes. what can should we do now? and as he from my perspective, we can only wait and see what the players decide. police are investigating the killing of one of motors, best known investigative journalist daphne yesterday definite caruana galicia was the victim of the car bombing map and taps. i'm looking to ship last rolled her car into a field meters away, slide it an appalling murder. and another reminder of the dangerous journalist face all around the world in

atlanta, over for calling or meeting a group of colleagues here to try to collectively investigate the murder of daphne, a kind of one that galleria does in clinic. and she's a colleague who also worked on the panama papers know the one with she was killed by a car bomb on the same road. and that's why we're making a concerted effort to pick her story up again. along with the guardian on the new york times limone bus number and a few others. going to say we want these people to realize that when they kill a journalist, their story will attract more attention to them rather than laughing athena.

so it's really tough to experience this because i know her son matthew quite well. and since i'm familiar with some of the topics she covered kind of opinion. and of course you automatically think about your own, my las vegas. i'm going to go to mother talk to the live. what if so naturally, i think more about security now than ever before. for an attorney in melbourne, linda, whoever it was, they decided they wanted to stop her investigation by killing her kid. oh, come on. if that's now the new normal slona more than investigative work will stop

. oh gosh, no fawn as michelle. so what i worry about is that mainstream politicians have launched angry verbal attacks on journalists. this kind of things and in this kind of climate and violent assault is just the next logical to dash with me. she couldn't have been killed because she has a fight with the neighbor or an argument with her grocer. she was definitely killed because of what she rocked. i think it stands to reason. so yes, i think this was a, a political assist. ah gentlemen, we still haven't gotten our heads around what happened in malta, keith. meanwhile, it doesn't start a lot in collin. john cook's jak, another colleague we worked with on the panama papers has also been murdered. it's

hard to wrap your head around to have come up emphasis. we have various data storage devices with video materials. these are the sticks that were in all the cameras. ok. it seemed there were 6 camera there, all the original systems here are the original sd cards that were inserted on the beach even just in the network, so to speak, the videos for minutes, 40 seconds long and shot only in the living room. i think that means we have no exterior video when they were outside in the beginning. we have 6 different ones. oh, okay,

good news. i haven't watched all of them yet. but most of what we've seen has been in this room on here are hair and fowl good and was sitting there this, this video quality is quite good. good to me and the sound to the sounds not good to me. you see a lot you know, me and my and also the

now were frantically trying to make as many copies as possible from novices and as long as when i saw this for the 1st time a year ago, what at the time i just saw a little bit only a quarter of an hour and then in the fall, i think you can, i saw the whole video and we never had it here. and as long as we haven't got it here, we can't write about it. because if they sue us, we need to have the video on hand and now we have it since last night. this is for us triggered endings i of the spirals and aluminum. everyone's getting more and more nervous and stuff that i think this spiral will end with the publication and that, and then i don't know what will happen then things will explode. who did one

of the office to place an order in the reservation with because we've had the video since last night news. okay. and specifically going and it's actually not just one video. rather they found this house, this meaning using 6 cameras, hung it from this for mission transmitted for me as the crucial thing is that we don't neglect our due diligence or not right up until the end. of course, we must carry out everything having to do with the research. i left me with the same precision we were deploy. if the evidence wasn't so good and wendy believed login in any case, if we must maintain this standard, right to the end of close of info, send it to going, they're going to attack us massively, some director of its own,

the entire right wing camp will say we're letting ourselves be instrumental line to be a good night before the election. we're meeting with criminals with us, with the assets and, and spiegel, working together. i think we can clear that all up just fine, but we mustn't make any mistake, isn't a fit of with that they get something in return. exactly. how can we say to legal this type of

party don't what they're talking about, what they're offering and compensation to come from the color buying the krona newspaper to help the freedom party with the audio quality a. so crappy shift with lawn chavez. as soon as you take over the corner newspaper, we need to talk to later at the corner, we have chopped, chopped, co, and 3 or 4 people. we need out to the missing 3 of 4. get the acts up. so good. as this is guns down than the others, crystal clear and see it. and then afterwards he says again, ok, you finance it, you have control or something like that. it's so explicit. and so, and i think for a 1st charge i'm in short, good and corruption eruption from the corrupt

promise of a post to our bow gets kicked out. the 1st break there for the quote she promises to buy half the kona newspaper and give him good press. of course she wants something in return. he says she should found a company like the construction firms law bag. and then he literally says install bog and it c e o would get no more contracts and once he's in office, all the public tender starbuck now receives would be hers. does others and oh really go for times on a scale. the other thing is illegal party funding because of the foundations and the discussions about how they could lead money flow to good. so please listen carefully as the thought these are, it's like this. and they say, if you like us, then you should donate over the phone you spent, and then the stool pigeon asks to the party. hello for glenbrook?

no, no, no, no. elaine's benefits were you donating to then if a party donation doesn't go to the party, it's no longer a party donation. it's being turned into something else. and in both of these cases, a politicians position is normally unable to go. hm. ah, lou says there with one i most to see when person again is all marina long time. no. see listening or things are getting a bit tight. if go barely through typing it out when the most now we're going to print it and duplicate and lay it all out. and then we can go over the spots. we're not too sure about. yes. did you understand everything?

no. has been on fossil man. we also have a rough version. let's just undergone a bit of fine tuning for them. i wanted us to have it by last night and it was obviously because numbed for them. okay, let's go over the purely technical aspect again. we the sequence of events. yes, l watson. does that make sense? okay, of, i mean though, as far as we know or can reconstruct it and she was presented to them as the rich niece of an oligarchy. and she was said to have a lot of money that she wanted to invest somewhere under a quarter of a $1000000000.00 euros. familiar. this isn't all really odd. they don't ask to see her passport and they don't know who she is or who he is. if they meet with them, talk about money and somehow promised them half of austria was dice over we can well, we need to think through is why are they so naive? luckily with why are they doing all this? why don't they ask for id? why are they talking about these things that way? we could it be that someone setting a trap for us here?

yes. ah. glue to the video, quantitative video quality is quite good time. plaza, diesel scholarship at times there's image noise, which is partly visible here in music to, for those a compression artifacts. if i do, i do that often, that indicates the use of extremely tiny hidden cameras on own as it hits also. and what i see now at the start use when i go through the entire video like this. i also see every single manipulation leaky, the money pronounced shawn. okay? so, okay, super and time. what's crucial are these 2 here. that's who we're interested in this. and we suspect that the camera, the under, from what it,

i suspect it's in the light switch, which is missing here. this is a fast for us to let a lot of this and say time is it could be that it was added later enough. but technically speaking, light switches with recording devices are now on the market on fair. this one seems to me to be placed a bit too high and close to the warm it. oh no person would actually put it there and he can. but this a very high probability that it really did take place in this villa, mid sale we're, we're finally federal de la. ah. with send a dish to mother personally or not in my mouth. yes. send it to him. what's that? i've already checked and he's on it today. not too, though, it says not to call him only texting is a gazillion older than most of the cameras that e mail me to it's been ages since i felt nervous about sending something like this

. all she can hold off for a minute. if something goes wrong, we'll get blasted. but we've read an over 18 times now. look, hunter, this not hostile was what i said, what i'm saying. our tone is neither hostile nor judgmental. i'm sending stuff has now. and now godinez, great, they're gone. no, it gets interesting. ah. as messina, texas's english finished started as a museum. oh, of course we understand that this isn't actually allowed. and we also see that these are people oh, great public interest. and this provides an insight into their character given you

recognized their voices. and that could be to their advantage online. because unlike in a re voice or written version, you can understand the intonation better. so like in this austrian vernacular, law commune agreement or refusal the twist im gonna up leanings on it kept them as of i am vault is wrong with the spoken word. it's not possible to put it out there in its original form. i can't simply hand out the tape. i can repeat what was said, hans, i can transcribe it always. but for this i need this ultimate interest much event. that's the most you can ask for. so just looking up and hong kong. ok, what can happen to us? it sounds stupid, but section 2012, a one right? turned his mother yesterday. andrea said it's 30 daily fine, then you can't do it anymore or something like that. then i'd say so what? so what other of it, you know, personally responsible, right. it's easy to say i hear my department head said so well,

mary minute. well, if you look at how important this documentation is, it is the one that's on the 10th when i section 2 or one states whoever had without being authorized to do so. one makes an audio recording of the privately spoken words of another ought to use it or makes a recording thus produced available to a 3rd party. and the get brought in cause a penalty of imprisonment for a term not exceeding 3 years or a fine over to you about using are making available to 3rd party asked him, right so, but then comes of the act referred to in sentence one, number 2, only entails criminal liability if the public communication is suited to interfering with the legitimate interests of another another to the interesting t. it is not unlawful if the public communication was made for the purposes of safeguarding overriding public interests. and that is, in my point of view, the case here. it's in the public interest to make it nurse, this becomes

a mom. is fin this leap? not only footman, riddles f. i think people will accuse us of publishing fake news because it's a trap. we didn't that we just got the goods that are ta, they'll totally take a run at us long. okay. if we don't have the right to do it, if in, but i think you need to hear him and you must hear how he argues here. oh, here i don't know struggles with himself, colonel mity kempt over and keep saying how things must be legal and then offer something which is anything by the legal. that's what makes it so gripping, of course. but math is also to have a estimate. you're also bidding immigrants at different. i also ask you to consider basically in the wing of interests at here. it's not really about exposing a, at least not to our knowledge, a committed offense, gone. rather it's about how shall i put it, lots of dirty thoughts on something like it on this. notice that there are things that with a vice chancellor need to come to light. the question is,

do we need the sound on tape for that or not 5 any? the trouble was he doesn't want to make the decision somehow bggm in in oh, a call from austria on the numbers over on the come to the one of those. but on speaker fiscal the filter. hello. hello. hello, i'm good day, because the how will you be stool? i've got company right now, is the detergent is his eyes as

though it been his own own. well, if it's about something that was called something like post from us to you and then the right person to talk to is my colleague over mine is as i know, colleagues were mile i was yes, there i actually i can, i know what it's about. it's a very delicate matter, but i can't come in when i'm in the room with my colleague of mine, i can post the phone over to him even as wow yeah, yes, but i just can't everybody, i can't talk about it for professional reasons. can they?

i can pass you on to my colleague of mine. yes. how does it? hello, good day, boston old. only a here. oh, no of loud? no, you're on speakerphone. no, no, no. right. you're on speaker phone, and there are others in the room. finally, go by maya and another colleague, yanna angelica gov. if you get in touch, we'd be glad to hear from you. we've sent you a few questions and would be, please let us know you think the does is it's funny. so yes, i don't think it's so common. we've a matter to investigate and have some questions about it and we're asking you, and i don't think that's odd, actually, it's completely normal. and we be pleased to get answers that are as comprehensive

as possible and we presume that we'll get them to problem. oh, get out of an o's. this was pretty quick. oh, why shouldn't you responded roles wouldn't feel good. okay, wonderful. okay, wonderful. with uniform, human, innovative income. if you still have questions, if we can help you call any time no, vince with him. okay. if you talk to hash ta hunton, he'll remember this one and he can tell you more than if it was as it seems. then hash tahoe was there not me so he probably knows more than i do, nosey. thank you, duncan. just read that until later than phyllis that he called you as well. and if there was sure he wanted you to tell him what we're doing there, calling around to find out what we've got little mm

to some of it up and they look, which brings us back to the topic of immigrants who come with kids who haven't worked an hour, but net $3500.00 euros a month or more that that no one understands that. and so tell me what so socially minded or fair about how things have been going. i say nothing neat. i didn't ask for the legal aspects. for me, it's clear there were different opinions when it comes to the question of whether we can show the video with image and sound, right? it's about where the politicians can be bought. the coffee can how corruptible, the politician who holds an important position in a country's government really is in an in law. and from my point of view on this is, this is an instance which is of overriding public interest at all. that's why, after considering all the points that play a role of comes to the conclusion, the will to keep missed as it is on my house. took the main piece since long until 10. the questions and answers don't come. i'll take care of

that. all right, about the krona newspaper and the freedom party. i'll do the freedom party onto the chrome, the mama, nothing. who didn't know? do something on continues these kind of stuff is heavy. the month is colbert bunched. huh? yeah, the articles must be submitted with put notes. every fact, every claim must come with evidence and not really will that so where it's from the standard from march, 17 or whatever. right. so how we prove it in court should that back be challenged and loving martin vendor important. we have the answers for both both martino sorry i forgot you were still on the line. try and good day and was just replied on, what's out there. okay, for relaxed and booze, the atmosphere language barriers, no donations were ever made and nothing else happened this. ready is there something for the soul? none of it happened yet. this time of they

write about up reported latvian citizens. that bothers me to come out here and check on any i o. i know why they're doing that by the because they russia, boyd was and they won were void, russia? russian money. but he went there talking about vladimir, that we were flooding. mia? she has contact to. yeah. did that trying to make it look harmless unless it's just land? mia? just the little brother little okay. personal replies not from their spokespeople. the trying to keep this on the rags violent gums clung and clearly we need a passage that we can cite in opposition and say, hey, you knew there was a russian background baird, this almost as a handle on dies. so really something you'd present as evidence and courtney

falling nguyen of we'll take it to the lawyers, then will you compile everything to do with moscow? only open for the ankle that we have a document showing how we can prove she was from moscow heels. my cause that's what they allow, but this is the alaska. how can we prove that they knew she was russian invoice for the sienna? wasn't us. i just got it with her juris for years. the lead. thank it. ignore but down below it's left over at if they get it. okay, i'll proof it for you to welcome to some of you too. thanks. yeah, yeah. with the other one. yeah. you just wrote, the texts are already, most of them are already, but i think there are 5 or 6 text lying upstairs. you know,

i think that's going to help the right. you're the main article. of course, we don't have that yet. any money that's long enough. she bins on the stone. now we've got just a 27 hours till publication and no text is actually finished to the point where we could say it's ready to publish right now. doesn't include them again. now it's certainly and as fast as with that means it'll be a rough right to fact check things again, if you go through and change every text with the lawyer asada we're investigating and planning to publish could change these people's lives. so of course you want to be 100 percent. sure. that mother natalie is always something that you want to look at or double check off on food. and it's not as if you can just leave it on the office when you go home and, and you can spend a peaceful evening with your family funds. it has nothing to hold. ask it hanging on during the complete you do take some of that home with human in for 1000000 oven starters under slipper and trumpeted

me. is it and see her head against the rush meniscus. it's a probability bordering uncertainty. that's how i heard it. it's not a fake, not in the slightest, as the material is a 100 percent authentic montoya as this is going to work. the sean han faced on the years, for example, i could identify a total match for both those people aged among. but by are there you're really on the safe side. okay. and does and says fictitious of to seizure inside the i'm here at the here we have their response. instead, another english, one of them of the meeting you addressed it took place in a relaxed, informal, and boozy holiday atmosphere that absolutely got to go in good done when done. and then they tried to put a spin on the whole thing and didn't bring him both of them because they say the purported latvian citizen for mid sea,

which is to evade allegations about rush and money. if you ask me, do you visit the goose full 1st class a greeter, or they greet one another? and he says, you're from moscow. i've been there many times t v. they know full well, she's russian. the question is now, do we leave it out entirely? and say it's laughable and common in my view. it's irrelevant that we don't need it . it's not essential yet. so sometimes that helps when writing well, an obama m. we've never talked about it to be honest because act who makes those kinds of decisions and entitled, ah,

an m the of can in this me must secretly film the video is putting pressure on austrian vice chancellor hines. chris jones tratta from the freedom party and several film and sound recordings that were leaked to the so deutsche, it's i tongue and spiegel magazine, the right wing populace promised a purportedly rich russian woman purportedly or yeah, i think the allegedly rich russian woman or wilson is that okay, yeah, sure. i was almost the russian hutton all situated in the us, he's or have we used that already with,

with all the copying back and forth and i forgotten what's where is this why i have it the sing, hobbies? well, we have a much time left focus centers, grammar make it i now, but it's important with love to following the example, sat by hungarian president, president and prime minister in victor, or by him with an accident that was with want that one. no, that one thing to sir, there's hardly any critical media laughed because it was common law. now the gilmore could actually again, government critical media to okay and send it right to speak to night. there she beagle and the pseudo to

tighten and happening to secret video this bleaching could incriminate. austrian vice chancellor sh daughter of the freedom party one day. the beloved country. this is the video recorded secretly as a villa on the spanish island of a beaver. ah, an absolute state of emergency that probably captures the news in austria best. 2000 is demand in new leadership in front of the counselors office. you the given can. the austrian government is under increasing pressure morton. i offered my resignation as vice chancellor of articulation. hon probably stepping down after the publication hidden camera footage. after yesterday's video, i must say quite honestly enough is enough. it's kinda fallout from that call. her scandal continues for you to tell you by now. serious chancellor sebastian kurtz has just lost a vote of no confidence in the parliament 1st time. not just the chancellor, but in fact, his whole government has been brought down of mazda in the

front page story. who put that together for i can do that. i suggest it would be good if you would use 50 tresiba item must be more, it's important to me in everything we do to morrow that we refrain from displays of triumph in any form. okay, so not look at the great thing we've achieved. rather, we, for a soberly to keep home with our reporting. we have no grounds for tramp. your hometown understood people. i mean, if we did have that on my business and it'd be because we did terrific journalistic work. not because something's happened there politically. this would like to avoid all that because we to some might in what we do to die to morrow and in the days to come next to target market. okay, good. good on this. get down to work. right mm . mm hm.

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