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the the video from last night shows what appears to be a droll exploding over the kremlin. moscow has accused ukraine of launching a droll attack to assassinate president vladimir approved it. the kremlin says that the president was not inside at the time. you credit the president zalinski has denied any involvement. washington says it had no advanced notice of any attack. so what was it tonight? the officials and keep our warning? this looks like a set up to blame ukraine, a pretext to justify what russia planned to do next. i bridge off in berlin. this is the day the, the train tried to attack the crime which drones last night for which 1st of all,
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if you create, undoubtedly has nothing to do with it. well, we leave it to ukraine to decide how it's going to defend itself and how it's going to try to get back to the territory sees from it. of course, most go regard. see a talk on the presidential residents as a terrorist act. and then this last nation attempt only had to state i'm sure, because there was no military value in such actions. i would take anything coming out of the kremlin with a very large shake results. so let's see. also it coming up to you as president biden sending more troops to the border with mexico as the number of migrants trying to cross rises. that the, the truth is that it's absurd to militarize the border instead of taking other measures to help us so that we can enter legally by the most of the government that we are not criminals. we're not criminal gangs. we're migrants with lee and from
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a country out of necessitate who's out of the wood to our viewers watching on tv as to the united states and to all of you around the world welcomes we begin the day with drones exploding over the kremlin. and the question, who did it? russia has accused ukraine of watching a drone attack over night, over the very heart of the russian capital, calling it an attempt to assassinate president vladimir putin, ukraine's president zalinski has denied any involvement. there are big unanswered questions, were the russians really called off guard at home, our drones able to enter the air space around the kremlin officials and keep say, this has all the hallmarks of a false flag operation orchestrated by the russians. an attempt to blame ukraine, they say, to create a pretext for what russian forces are planning to do next. this footage circulating on the russian telegram channels shows the alleged of the night
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attack and smoke rising above the main kremlin palace. there has been no independent verification of this footage, but russia accuses ukraine of trying to assess and they didn't. a ukrainian president below de zalinski denied any involvement in the alleged incident on we don't at tech pushing or most go we fly to home on our territory. we're defending our religious cities. we don't have, you know, enough weapon for these. that's why we don't use it any, any way, are full for us. that is adapted to the we we cons, founded and we didn't the tech points and we leave it to try. but you know how it's going in washington,
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how us secretary of state anthony blinking costs down on the kremlin allegations. these are decisions for ukraine's. i've seen the reports. i can't in any way, validate them. we simply, we simply don't know the 2nd i would take anything coming out of the kremlin with a very large shake or salt. so let's see. uh, we'll see what, uh, what, what the facts are. and it's, it's really hard to comment or speculate on this without really, really knowing what the facts are. must go has threatened to retaliate against ukraine, making residents of keys worried for the safety. wondering what to do my dry attacking strategy. optics decisions are made in cuba. you're shown the mike chair, let's put them inside. so again, we need to remain in safety and take care of ourselves and our loved ones. for now, put and remain safe. moscow announced that he will take part in
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a scheduled world war to victory day parade on the red square next week. a little more i'm doing now by stephen blanc. he's a senior fellow for russia at the american foreign policy council. mister blake, it's good to have you with us on the program tonight. how likely do you think it is that ukraine is behind this apparent attack on the criminal? i find it quite inconceivable that ukraine would do this as the last case said they don't have enough weapons and they went wasted on a target. because most of us know that boots and spends very little time at the kremlin and certainly not in the middle of the night. so i don't think that it's uh, 8 at all. true. i would not put it past the russians to launch what has been called a false flag operation. what, what escapes me though is what, what pretexts they need, because they're destroying ukraine even as we speak. i think this is an attempt
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to generate public support at home, maybe abroad, but uh, i don't know what they could threaten to do to ukraine is i haven't done already except maybe nuclear weapons and i don't think that's particularly likely. so i don't see where you crane games anything by doing this. but, and let's just say that the russian people by the line coming from the crumbling that this was an attack. and what does that tell us then about the defensive shield around the kremlin and around president booted? well, it doesn't tell us anything. this is what you saw on the tv was a flash, which could have been caused by a rushing drone. i would say then shut down, it doesn't tell you anything. so you can make a judgment from that. and most guys, track record uh validates what the joseph conrad called russian officials,
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sublime contempt for the truth. and so, uh, the, uh, there's no way to prove that ukraine did this. it makes no sense. the kremlin is not a worthwhile military targets of the reasons i've already said. and, uh, it doesn't strike me is plausible that ukraine would attack it. us reactions, they've been somewhat circumspect um, anthony blinking says it's up to ukraine to decide how to defend itself. but if this had been a ukrainian attempt to assassinate president boots and certainly the white house and the pentagon, they would have been informed one day i assume they would have been, but i've talked to us government officials earlier today. they have no knowledge of what actually took place and they're not buying the russian story. as a result, there is no evidence out there that can prove that ukraine was behind this. and
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given the russians track record, i would run off and believe this claim either more over, i mean very, they're not in any position to complain about attacks on foot and they tried the kills the landscape, the beginning of the war. so uh, no, that's there at modus operandi, not ukraine's. let me ask you about what we're hearing from ukraine. why do you think president zalinski and his government are so careful about taking ownership of any attacks on russian territory or even in crimea as well? i think it would be a public relations disaster estate attacked moscow. they have sent a cruise missile strikes at russian military targets in crimea. and oil refineries of uh, uh, gas refineries while refineries in belgrade,
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which is not far from the border. but they in general are very careful when they, they strike at a russian target. and i don't think that they would do something this escal atory at this point in time. it just doesn't make sense. there have already been calls in moscow. i'm from the former president, dimitri med. yeah. they have. and from the speaker of the duma, for direct retaliation against ukrainian president golda meir zalinski. what do you make of these calls? well, met vegetative. and the speaker, the problem is that what the chinese use, the called the running dogs of put 10. i mean, madrid of specialty is making, outland is brutal threats against ukraine to which are actually not particularly credible. just to prove that he's a real tough guy. so i'm in the running to support food and then maybe become his successor. i don't put any great store by that. steven blank
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with the american foreign policy council. mister blake, we appreciate your time in your valuable analysis tonight. thank you. you're welcome bye. this media freedom is supposed to be a cornerstone of democracy by holding the powerful to account in keeping voters and forms, but on this world press freedom. a new poll shows that many americans are doubtful that the media is acting as a force for good. nearly 3 quarters of adults surveyed blame the medium for increasing political divisions in the united states, and the pope was carried out by the associated press, the north center for public affairs and the robert f. kennedy human rights. it also found that more americans think that the media is hurting american democracy, then are texting my next guest to 90 is frank says know
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frank is an emmy award winning journalist. he's now the director of strategic initiatives at george washington university school of media and public affairs. and i have to say when i was way back in the day when i was a news writer and cnn at the washington bureau, frank was the bureau chief there. frank, it's good to see you. again there's, there's a lot to talk about. a lot of it's good some other bad. um, i want to start the with this new poll which finds about 4 and 10 american saying that the press is doing more to hurt american democracy. only 2 out of 10 say that the press is doing more to protect democracy. i mean, this is a real crisis of trust, isn't it? yes. first of all, it's good to see you again and thank you for having be here. i think this is an important conversation. this isn't really very serious problem. it's been in existence for some time. it's gotten worse and it's fed on itself, so the more there is distrust and media. more media actually heads for the corners
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of the, of the, of the ring where they're all the mud wrestling takes place, becomes more partisan, which then drives further just trust because people to the general public says the media are not providing facts. they are leaning into the argument, they are adding to the shouting, they are increasingly partisan. and we have seen that, and it's been made worse since the donald trump era, when the present united states piled on and said the media and then journalism actually is the enemy of the people. and again, this is compounded problems that have been all around for quite some time. so there's no easy way out of this. and it's a problem of epidemic proportions now because it really is affecting the broader question of confidence in american institutions and a sense of what is actually factual. what is real and what is not. we're going to
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come back to that point about what is real. it's actually just a moment i'd like for you to maybe catch the glaze over across the atlantic to us here in europe, public trust in establishing public broadcasters here in europe. it remains the rather good rather high. but there is a course of critics growing, especially against the bbc and against germany's a r d and c d f networks. i mean, what does this look like from where you are sitting on the other side of the atlanta? what is the situation in europe? look like or how does that translate on? yeah, i mean, what is the americanized a yeah, to, to these american eyes, they had looks like sort of more of the same we, we live in a time and partly is because of social media. partly because it's a time of immense polarization as we have seen in so many places in europe as well to include the united kingdom and france and germany as well, where the right wing has been a send. and it's not just sort of mainstream conservatives,
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but it's right wing conspiracy theorist. people who authorize people to demonize and that is one of the big differences there. there are global trends behind this as a sort of a live model. march of a liberal democracy is as we talked about, the kind of has, this is one of its component parts. and part of that is to undermine and raise questions about suspicions about the journalism in the news media raise questions about the actual kind of core information that people are getting just spread out so discords. and so that's what it looks like to me that what we're seeing happened in europe is not just similar to what we've, what we've seen elsewhere. in some cases, we do it lead the way in europe in certain countries hungry, poland, elsewhere, where liberal governments have use this as a standard kind of tool in the tool box and it works. unfortunately, it works because it does raise questions. it does undermine trust,
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not just in the media, but in other institutions. i have to ask you about what was a huge case in the united states dominion versus fox news. i'll just remind our viewers, dominion, sued fox for airing fault stories, claiming that dominion's voting machines were susceptible to hacking and that they had slipped vote to the 2020 presidential election in favor of bite and against trump. fox has agreed to pay what $787000000.00 in. and now the court settlement for you were an expert journalism witness for dominion. and as i understand that you would have testified this week, if the case had gone to trial, i'm wondering what would you have set what i would have said is that fox news completely abandoned journalistic standards. and i've spent the last 8 months reading the deposition, studying the material. and obviously the trial didn't take place because of the settlement, but it's very relevant to the conversation that you and i are having here. because
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what fox did was to try to retain its audience and it ended up pandering to its audience, its audience attacked it for providing some of the factual information that they didn't like 2 weeks to start with when joe biden, during the election night, one the state of arizona fox was the 1st call that and the fox audience piled on, criticized fox fiercely. and fox feared a loss of ratings and following that was a series of several weeks of continuing to put on these kind of false claims about dominion voting and fraud. and the american elections generally, what this really does is it's kind of a, it's sort of a spotlight onto where journalism and media have gone terribly wrong. what i would have said is that the journalistic standards seek truth, that your sources find credible people to, to speak up, provide context, correct errors. none of these things were done and increasingly we're seeing the
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media companies, some of them anyway, not all. there's still tremendous journalism, it's taking place out there, but and being so desperate for ratings and eyeballs and clicks in being so desperate for this and a hyper competitive world. there are some very bad practices that have been adopted that are not consistent with what journalism should be. and that feeds the missing this information universe. and it feeds the distrust because it undermines the factual basis that we need. and that's what i saw in the fox case, and that's very much a part of the kind of thing that you and i are talking here about trusting the media in this country and elsewhere. you know, the do, your time is a today published the redacted text message that reportedly led fox to part ways with it. star anchored, tucker carlson. i mean carlson in his text worried about seeing a group of trump supporters attacking and and chief of active is and he wrote,
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we've just got that a little bit of the quote here. it was 3 against one, at least a jumping a guy like this is just honorable, obviously it's not how white men fight it. suddenly i find i found myself rooting for the mob against the man hoping that they would hit them hard to kill it. i really wanted them to hurt the kid. i could taste it then something deep in my brain and alarm went off. this isn't good for me. i'm becoming something i don't want to be frank. this text was redacted it's about in the public domain are, are you, are you able to talk about this, or is it off with it's i can talk about what's in the public domain. i can talk about what is not and what has been redacted. but what i and i did not see this particular exhibit, i did not come across my desk cuz i was because i was reviewing things. but what we have seen and what is public and some of the tucker carlson is communications internally. tax emails, things that have been released through the pre trial motions and various other things as this case went through. the court is a very harsh, very judge metal,
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very crude, very pro famed series of communications about colleagues about from the called the, the actually called trump, a demonic force. he said he's a destroyer and one of the communications that has been released and that we have seen that i can talk about us. but what tucker did, and what the others did, that's even more remarkable is that they repeatedly said they did not believe they indicated skepticism and worse about the claims of election fraud and the dominion case specifically. and yet on the air they played on that narrative again and again and again. they brought on guests who promoted the wildest conspiracy theories and did not challenge them, knowing full well with that was wrong, their own in the house fact check unit the bunk. these things still, they put them on the air,
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they had repeated denials from the company and other very, very clear good sources. and they did not put that on the air. and. and so when we look at why the public does trust the media so much, some of that is because of this. because organized an organization like fox news has gone out of its way to make things up. or to feed lies in ways that are very, very damaging for good. fortunately, we're out of times good talking with me. we certainly appreciate your valuable analysis of this and do you ever keep watching to see what happens to us media moving forward? frank says no, thank you. my pleasure. good to see you. you too. bye. the, the us. it's sending $1500.00 more troops to the mexican border ahead of an expected search and migrants divided ministrations as the soldiers were. carry out administrative duties to free up regular border patrol agents to carry out patrol
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work. the deployment of military personnel is slaves of the last for 90 days. now cobit 19 restrictions have allowed us officials to turn away tens of thousands of migrants at the border. immediately, but the already record number of people crossing into the rest is expected to rise further. when those pandemic restrictions are lifted on thursday of next week. i want to go now to our 1st funded kimberly jamalia in washington cover lead that you've been to the border reported from there. what are officials? they're already reporting and i've taken migrant crossing about $7000.00 per day. right now. they expect even more what will change at the border when these corona virus restrictions are lifted next week? or the white house obviously fears that the lifting of title 42 degree of cows at the border of rent. but it's of course, also a political issue, a political tool, and also many republicans assure that there will be kaos. but then there are other
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ones to say that there is already a border prizes and that this will not good wars due to the listing of title 42. and as you just mentioned, an average of $7000.00 migrants per day. happy to enter the united states. since this year started. i have been, as you said, many times to the border in the past month, and they're already many migrant sleeping on the streets. the shutters are already packed and it is already an emergency situation for the border of cities titled, 42 has not released topped these migrants from crossing into the united states. so these $1500.00 extra troops that are being sent to the board. i mean, exactly what are they going to do? a bunch of we're trying to imagine what's going to happen at the border. if you have an influx of even more people. what do these soldiers do? while the pendulum is saying that the troops will help, especially in logistics, like for example, a feeling gaps in transportation warehouse support,
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narcotics detection, but also data entry and the troops will be armed back depends. are going to saying this is just for self defense and that weapons are not to be used by the choose for law enforcement. we also know that the troops will be employed, as you mentioned, for 3 months, starting in may 10th. so just one day before title 42 is listed, and it's also important to mention that they are already 2500 troops at the board are doing this job. so this a 1500 are in addition to the ones who are already there us officials, they've been talking to their counterparts in mexico. we understand, um, is there any attempt to work together to deal with this because no matter what the politicians say, i mean it is, it is a crisis at the border indeed. yes and um, mexico's president lopez. so what i logged on to us on security advisor meant to yesterday with their delegations and mexican city. and we know that the mexican
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government has agreed to receive a 3rd countries at ortiz, from the united states after title 42 expires. but it is still in your home, mexico wants to deal with the show. there's also on the mexican side, already packed with people. and those you might remember there was this terrible accidents of a verdict shows or some weeks ago were almost 40 migrants died. so the prices is already happening on both sides. and so the mexican side and also on the, on the us side you'll be said on the border. agents are saying 7000 people per day trying to cross. now, i mean do authorities, do they have any i d of the expected scale of migration that we're going to be talking about a week or 2 from now? the tourist brand is set and no one really knows what to expect. once title $42.00 is lifted by the, by the administration, obviously wants to prevent the pictures of cas at the border. we know his age and have a been trying to, to stop it as a veto crossings in the past 2 years. but with no success. many angie oles,
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even criticized specified in administration, has relied on policies that were imposed during the trump era. so there is a fear of a huge surge of migrants crossing, but no one can really tell how many more will arrive in an area that is already packed with migrants of sleeping on the streets. we know that the secretary of homeland security, mister my york, i said he will be travelling to the board of this week to review the operations ahead of the listing of this type. what we know you will stay on the story cover the nature boy in washington. kimberly, as always, thank as well. the day is almost done, the conversation that continues online, you'll find us on twitter, either a dw news, you could follow me on twitter at rink golf t v. and remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day. we'll see you then in the
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