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seen as somebody very, very traditional. so there are people who are not happy with prince charles, but he will have to define his role as a king. so it will be really interesting to see in the next the is how he's going to do that. you mentioned his sons and prince williams in particular. obviously, prince harry now lives in the united states is no longer working oil. but how much do you think that controls will lean on his son and the prince of wales? the new principal wells and the princess of wales because they have a much younger french or a fraction imaged and they, they young parents themselves. do you think they can connect more easily with, with issues that are relevant to people today? i think so they all, it's a very popular over the british public. the other most popular royal to king charles a hearing would be well advised to um, to, to lean on them and to, to work together with them. and i think this coronation where,
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where prince william also had a big, a big role actually um and kissed his father. i think that probably be del, symbolize that there is a very close bone between father and son and that he is planning to, to really cooperate with his son and, and supposedly also with his daughter in law who is also very popular with the british public. i do just have to ask you book it because of course the royal family is no stranger to control the sea and negative headlines and of course has been lots of talk about 2 particular members of the role family, one being prince harry and his wife megan who now live in america, whether he was even going to be invited to be carnation and men. of course this prince andrew, one of the king's brothers, whose being mud and control the sea and is no longer a working royal as being stripped of his. his royal title, so was extends, have
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a cost a shadow over today or does this sort of cost all of the royal family play a role in how people see the rules? i think it's probably the court, symbolic that they have not had a big role in the ceremony. so there was a question mark over whether prince harry will even attend. now he has, has kept so far, very, very low profile from what we understand. you only flew in yesterday and he's not going to stay. he's going to actually off of this era. we need more or less immediate the flight flight back to the us and, and equally, prince andrew has had no road and the ceremony 6. so they're working roy's will try and concentrate on those members of the role. suddenly you have a broad support. prince harry is not one of them. he really, since he's left for the us and since he's written his books on had he's not 6 documentaries. um,
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art that has not made him popular with the british public. in fact his and, and also magazines, popularity, have really song quite nice to, to the role as he will be hoping that. so for now are they can concentrate on their own walk and that's the control disease, ryan's friends, harry and present prince andrew, that they will be a single to pause just before you just take a break. i just wanted to find out, you've mentioned the what are these um, some republican, you know, process over there. i'm just wondering if there's a bit of a, any, any sign of people, one thing a middle ground, not necessarily a complete departure of a pollution of them want to keep but somewhere in terms of maybe moving it to what we have on this side of the continent which is, you know, less grand and slightly. um, you know, less prominent the. yeah, i mean, it's
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a very good question. it's been pointed out that the, the u. k. britain is the only european mona key who actually dollars that coronation because other european roys, they just, um, hand over basically the writing and, and this ceremony is, is on power of in europe. and it's, it's very interesting when you look at the polls, how people off to saving britain in 1960 is time. people actually expecting that in 50 years time britain will be a republic. and i, i can imagine that most people are not and visiting a resolution for that. it's more of a slow process and that the monitor key will somehow um will be right back will become smaller and smaller, like prince charles has already said he wants to split down and then it is really the question in, in what way the king or queen will be the head of state and in that case,
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to call them. so i think there's really a, this is really the stall, just the debate about the future of britain and the future of the constitution of the country and yet to get your thoughts to denali isn't it was ruled royal family and everything. it is bold ease to tourist, from a book for persons tourism industry, the hospitality industry. i mean just this event that we're watching right now. well, no doubt bring a lot of money in to the u. k. and that's what people often talk about as an, as a reason for the royal family, but that just a great rule. so the u. k. well the republicans i've been speaking to, um they say they don't want to abolish everything about the monitor key and all the symbols say we were meeting not so why told with a whole scotts in the background. and even though they weren't exactly looking at them with pride, but it was this as well as you know,
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this kind of state. so we can keep the symbols, we can keep in the way some of the grunge of thoughts. it's the, it's the cement, semantic chanel of the clock system or the really that they are objecting to. and also the um, the wells that the royal family has. so just prince charles's assets and no, no way estimated by languages newspapers to 1000000000 power and say, it's an immense wealth and they all say that this, well, if it was distributed much more family, then you know that would more than make up for, for a possible show would fall into or is me even though they would argue that, you know, britain, which has a lot more to offer than there are. some of the people will continue to, to come to london on the pallets of booking on problems that would still also be the target. thank you. we'll come back to you again in just a moment. i did want to just talk about the procession that we're seeing here
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because again, it's not only this very grand golden coach that's being pulled by horses back. so buckingham palace, but it's also the coaches behind the king and queen, which was bringing the senior members of the royal family. i believe what we're seeing right now. the canadian mountain sees is not right. so i'm going to invest through hi susan set. so again, broad representation of different parts of the commonwealth in this procession. but what will happen is that this huge military procession and the members of the royal family. while heading back to buckingham palace, we should mention the special role that the king sister princess is taking. she's been given, but so i was told sticks in waiting today, which is a, a special role that she's playing today. a traditionally known as the person who is keeping the teen safe. so she's intrusted with the monks tassel, safe to say,
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is charles as gold sticking, waiting. but behind her in the 1st carriage, we have to print some princess of wales and the 3 children george, charlotte, and louie and following them. there's but you could let him run the dog to the vet and brothers. the king's one of the king's brothers. with that, with the children and the old moving down the mile now towards booking and palace. and what we'll see once they get that is the whole rule. finally, then appearing on the balcony, what we are like, we don't know exactly who will it is. this is another one of the mysteries of today who will appear on the balcony of buckingham palace. why is it so important? why did people tests that we should the, the one thing that i'm booking, pottis' refuse to say who would be appearing. and of course, people are interested about what will happen to prince harry, prince harry,
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the king's son, speeches spoken about him this in california in the us. will he be allowed on the balcony when he wasn't on the balcony for the queen's jubilee? the queen's domain to please all just in last june, he was not there and neither was making they will underneath they was seen they were caught on camera way things but they were not on the balcony. so will he be that will, will prince andrew be the along with those? you are clearly important working broyles and in this procession and are given an important place within the role family to be seen as the face of the role family and be out there doing good works to prove. that's why it's important to keep the family. so i think patches we, yes that's, that's something that we wait to find out. who exactly will appear? will they keep it very small, or will they wide midtown, to little bit more wonder whether camilla's family members of the miller family
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will be on the balcony. you would have mentioned so that would be a whole new whole new era wouldn't set. yeah, absolutely. weights that we wait to see about that. and then of course, there is supposed to be the, the flight cost where we get, for example, the red arrows and spits bias from the 1st and 2nd level that a 2 to fly pos, booking impulse. but that depends on the weather. so i think again, another thing that we have to wait and see what happens, some of that will be able to occur given, but it's great. it's raining and it's probably not great visibility. princess wells with principal wells, we can see the, with the 3 children were very well behaved during the ceremony. this little prince louisa looking out at the crowds. i wonder whether they realize what a extraordinarily historic day this is and what the apostles and princess charlotte just celebrated her password. i think so. you can see the procession nearing
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buckingham palace. he did mention the all the gods tag. you might notice um, maybe not right now, but at some point we might see some of the gods with flags. now they're not just flags of, you know, they, the union jack or of the nations of the commonwealth of realm. but also of the why the common law. so that's also important that given the independent nations that have completely cut off and don't have the demonic as the head of states are still represented in this procession. and do they see that? i mean, how is that seem to me, would you say by countries who are independent run themselves, but they have this connection to the u. k. is, do they see that as a good thing that represented here, or do they want to be part of an event like this thing generally they do generally they do. um, of course, recently we've seen that that has been an education for more of a conversation about what happened in the past regarding the colonial is them
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regarding the way the crown ruled? i mean, we have, i think what and does a lot of people is, is the silence the deliberate silence and the, the, the desire to put aside and say, let's move on without actually addressing things. i mean, a point you to a probation legacy, which was in the 1950s to the seventy's around the time when a lot of countries. um, we're getting their independence and the foreign offices had this a lodge operation to destroy thousands of documents that had to do with these colonies. and they destroyed them deliberately. so they would not be seen by these people and be used for education like we have to day. so it's things like that where, where there is that silence and that desire to say, okay, that happened, it was a long time ago. let's move on from it. and there is, i mean, if you go to kenya for example, where they had the mile mouse struggle, people were fighting for self rule. and of course they took some drastic measures, but they were painted as terrorists. and i think that, that,
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that all those kinds of things have not been resolved. there's been no official apology to these defend um, former colonies. so yes, as much as people appreciated once again, once to celebrate with, with britain, there is still that business needs to be tools and let me state that. i'm just just picking up on that. it's interesting that charles, all ready, and that he has agreed that was such as can come in and look at the royal archives in buckingham palace to see if there was any link between mona key and slavery. um, because obviously this is a, a, a subject that is always going to be with the world family because there's no escape from it. some people obviously want to go further. there's always talk about respirations being paid by the royal family because of links to slavery. that has not, you know, that, that is being pushed way find the world's family thoughts. king charles,
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at least agreeing to allow these were such as it who are part of this study to come into fucking palaces and move forward. and he has in the past as his, when he a match with his son, they have acknowledged the atrocity of slavery. they haven't ever said, sorry for any roles that family may have played, but they have acknowledged it. and it is clearly something that they know is not going to go away and that is a shift and thinking isn't it. i mean something and he, you grew up in the u. k. and you learn history at school. you do tend to not learn about the dog cosigns of history. the focus is very much on the kings and queens and the grandeur of a school. and so it says in person to the king, despite no matter how old he is or how he's seen to show that he is seeing the u. k. and the world as a to see if there's no longer the u. k is no longer a, an employer. yeah. i think of how much it is or how much it is i've just been
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saying are 18 percent, 18 percent of brits and say that they that you know that background is from an ethnic minority and that has been a huge change over the past few decades. in the u. k. on the kid they know this, like there is no way that they can pretend it's not happening. so i think that's why they want to be seen as moving forward. close, of course. harry's wife met prince harry's once making describes himself as by racial. this being that told elements going on within the family as well and the claims of whether they wrote pray 7, yeah, the 1000 members of the royal family had upset racist comments. prince harry has said he never to use any one of being racist, but that was the line that the temp lloyd's and the purchase price went full when there was concern about what had been said to make and when she was pregnant with that 1st child, what color of the skin if that child would be so.
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