well, as the reform is to take power, this is due to be in use from breland. you can get more news on our website at dw dot com voters in turkey went to the ballot box on sunday in a presidential election that has much of the world watching many worried. and so now wishing that it were all over, but it's not in 2 weeks, turkey will hold its 1st ever one off presidential election pitting incumbent richard. tire of air to one against is the strongest arrival. come all killed each . the roll of the winner will have a key voice at nato in russia and ukraine from the mid east to northern africa, and capitols from brussels to washington. nothing less here than war and peace. i'm for golf and berlin. this is the day. the church democracy is providing to be amazingly resilient. it was obvious from

the start that this was going to go to the 2nd round, voters had a choice between genuine political alternatives. i should have it to me. there was too much code devise ation with both sides fighting. i'm not happy until i worry about tuck, he's been so long. we'll see what happens when we bought again in 2 weeks. people have been given more time to think the additional also it coming up villarreal, seeing the leader, alexander lucas. shank. of just how sick it is. the man who calls himself europe's last dictator. but we don't know, but the countries opposition, it's gearing up for possible change. we know that the cushion p 0. but as in every dictatorship, nobody knows what, what is going on really well to our view is watching on tv,

cindy united states, and to all of you around the world. welcome. we begin the day with the 2 men who now have 2 weeks to wind over most of the voters in turkey on may 28th for the 1st time in its history. turkey will hold a run off presidential election incumbent president richard tire of air to one and his strongest challenger can all kill extra rolo voters gave both of these candidates the most supported yesterday's national election, but neither one a majority. tricky sky rocketing inflation. it's plummeting. lira and a nation's on certain these they will have to in your 2 more weeks. will the result bring resolution? well, that depends who you are and where you are. the winning candidates in world anatolia may look different in downtown if temple, europe's 1st choice may be russia's last option. we have more now and this report became expecting victory speech. but unlike his previous presidential elections,

project tie up arrow on couldn't claim the 1st round when for his waiting supporters. before all the ballots were even counted, turkeys incumbent president accepted. he may face or run on it. if the nation has made its choice in favor of the 2nd round of the election, and that is also welcome was understood that it was his main rival command could it startled me also said he was ready for another vote. me look to me, it's all a nation said 2nd round, we gladly accept it. we will absolutely witness selection in the 2nd round of john everett a. see that with a run of now confirmed voters must wait another 2 weeks to know who will take power . yeah, change it song, the old countries been struggling lately. no sauces. change in government which

shake it further because that's why both candidates are problematic for me to that's why i can't say i voted with conviction that i called the sort of co job. it was obvious from the start about that this was going to go to the 2nd round and now that that's happening. so i'm surprised. we just have to wait till i'm upset. this shouldn't have been the result. even with a slight lead, the 1st round has been one of the top is test for air to on. but the run of is likely to be an uphill battle for college dotala. we want to be now is 77 o'clock months. a researcher at the stucco university institute for turkish studies and head of the symbol based the think tank is stand poll institute. it's good to have you with this. let's just talk about the election that that just took place yesterday. would you say that this volume large was a free and fair election with no serious irregularities?

so uh yes, actually uh, there was no serious uh, irregularities yesterday selection. but uh, we can say that it's the feel feel elections because took is now categorized as a competitive alternative and reaching their elections. our health, they go to leap up the competition and most political parties are not phase. so people made before the elections, we can see that the government has use the state resources for the political campaigns and also independent to the issue. but these are comfortable by the government officials and of just last year election rules are changed to the um, actually for, for the favor of the government. so we can see that that was not a paid election. i would ask you if you can confirm a certificate i heard today that during the official campaign time president aero one and his party received 32 hours of free air time on public state

television, the opposition parties, all of them together, received 32 minutes of it free air time. is that true? exactly. and also the government has used it as though munition in not only for the, for the official media but also the pro government media. so they use this part of, we're very effectively actually. and how do you explain the fact that the president era one was able to defy the predictions and the polls. i mean, this was supposed to be the oppositions vote to lose yesterday. a it surely depends on many polls. it was on expected to see that miss the could wish that all the will be in the 1st in the 1st round so that this was unexpected results. but he has a 3 main strategy. first of all, he tried to manage the loyalty. so he into the both the lawyers and punish the

destroys, and he pushed his bees to add on to himself. and secondly, he managed the perception, actually venue, which the pro government channels media outlets you that as well on a try to a shows that he is the only man who can issue this tablet. the inputs comfortably and especially in the earthquake keeps those at it by the, by using the pro government's media, she says creative and english that he can only the insured saving for a building in this audio. so that he managed this well. and also he used the identity politics to boost his base, which it shouldn't, he have performed even better. shouldn't he have won the election can considering his grip on media in turkey. um yes,

but i'll present this ad one also suffers from the economy crisis at 1st the full eh, it has created and disappointments and long piece support those. but also he has challenged by the unified position. that's why we have this result in moving forward. the next 2 weeks of what do you foresee happening in this runoff and campaign for, for both of these candidates? first of all, even though president ad dollars party, the atp has lose some support. there's a, he's a nation, he's a people's life has schools. and so the dated, he's published in the parliamentary that's why by using this they will more close to get the 2nd round and theories, the tort candidate, me such as seen on the on he gets unexpectedly 5 percent voice. and so he will be, he's support to, one of this candidate will be also a decisive fuck 3rd, but mystical shuttle to stop by losing goals to the parliamentary majority,

building in the controls. and that is the category to visited for mr. under collision rule. if he becomes the new president of turkey, he will still have to deal with a parliament that will have its majority v, a k party of mister arrow one, right? yes, this was exactly a challenging issue for missed of glitch that all those left. but if they get the presidential executive followers with these executive powers, they can also ensure did the forms that they provided for the society. so this will be not so much challenging for them to get the executive father. ok, but we will be watching closely what happens for the next 2 weeks in turkey and turkey researcher, setting 7 course much. we appreciate your time and your insights tonight. thank you . i think it went out to

ukrainian presidents, the lead skis, whirlwind whistle, stop tour of european capitals and the promises that he picked up along the way in london. britain's prime minister receives food at confirm today, plans to send ukraine attack drones and hundreds of additional missiles noticeably not on that list. fighter jets it was a flying visits by the ukranian president after a weekend of meetings with you or p and lead as load of me is a landscape touch down in britain to meet prime minister research. so you're not you're welcome to landscape to his country residents. hold on a minute, great to welcome you back to the u. k. whether ukrainian leda was thankful to breton, you are, but also acknowledged the difficulties that lie ahead for ukraine. about a thank you,

especially especially you and the your government for supporting us really at this moment. like i said at the moment of challenge is the moment for us, for our society, our people, especially for our soldiers moment this tough, difficult. but anyway, but we need success and now i'm happy that's in this way. we are in way of preparing or important comprehensive steps. so lend skate is king to build up what he calls objects coalition to help ukraine defendant's aspects. the u. k. has said that it will not be providing fight to just to ukraine, but re, she's to not kind of direct message for rush as president putin. but i think it's important instead of criminal tools that we're not going away. right. we all have, for the long time, we remain steadfast in wanting to defend ukraine,

not just now to reclaim its rightful territory, but also to ensure that ukraine has the means to defend itself into the future as well as the lensky less with the promise, some re she seemed not to try and ukrainian pilots, but without the commitment to deliver playing see it hopeful it was another important trick for the ukranian president whose team to keep up support under the profile of the ongoing wall in ukraine. and before traveling to brittany, president zalinski made a stop right here in berlin. his 1st visit to germany since the russian invasion of ukraine began early last year. after their talks today in german transfer, all of shoulds repeated is countries flags to support ukraine for as long as necessary. and they were actions connected to those words. yesterday, germany announced the new package of military aid worth more than 2700000 euro. all

of that for you, correct q i support and i would have thought, well, from all of this i want to bring it in. now here at the big table, raphael, both songs with the german institute of international and security affairs. good to see here. good to have you in person for a change. what did you make of this whirlwind tour for president zaleski, but particularly um, but the, the promises and the that he picked up here in germany. or i think there are 2 major objectives here. and the one is, of course, still getting more military 8 on the table while this offensive might start any moment or is already underway. we don't really know him. and he said it repeatedly, that there are of course, many things coming in. but there is a few elements, particularly the 5, the chance that are still something on a negotiation on. so i think that's one of the major objectives. and the other, of course, is the upcoming assignments of the next native summit. and billy is, and he's been obviously beating the drum for a major decision and for there to be made. while, for example, shows again said,

well, this is the old decision in 2008 and we are in the process. no clear signal yet. i think that's the other agenda. do you think the, the, i guess the foundation is being laid now for an announcement, a fighter jets one day sooner rather than later. but unfortunately, i can't really give you an inside behind the scenes, but it sounds like that it's coming close. i mean, we've also heard actually more crow on top saying now they are going to start training pilots. yeah. without making commitment. exactly which planes and they're going to replace the limit. but previously there was a visit to the netherlands already some weeks ago, whereas midlands were considering f. 16. so i think it's probably just a matter of time. however, even if this decision is made, it will take a few months. yeah. um. so for the next uh, offensive its not really on the table when it brings back to germany. but if i understand correctly, um with this announcement that was made yesterday, germany now leads all european countries when it comes to

a military aid given to ukraine, their number 2. so just following the united states, now that's quite a metamorphosis that we have seen when you compare germany today to where it was in february, march of last year. i mean, that's the line of the german government that, you know, we took our time, but we made this because we needed the coordination with our allies. and now that we're on track, we are reliable. we're really deliver it. maybe remember that the pair period when you know germany was really criticized for not the deciding show on the tanks and then they decided that the other governments would be really pushing germany then. so well we kind of, we deliver. so this is the line from shaw is to say when we're saying we're doing and we're doing it. however, of course, there is also this kind of other perspective saying that, well, it is indeed now the largest package from your, from europe, germany is also the largest economy in europe. mm hm. and compared to the gdp is still pulling down. some of the baltics are doing more, so that's kind of the roads and stuff that i've talked about. how central would you

say that germany has become in securing european banking for ukraine as well. it is still the biggest and economic the most powerful state in europe. and yes, i mean, it is obviously central in the sense of this long term perspective and not only but apparently, but also for the long term questions of you are large meant for reconstruction. for, of course, all submitted ukraine's refugees that are housed here. so all those problems, of course, germany is absolutely essential and particularly as i said before with a large, with there few other champions other than poland for really want to make this happen. yeah. champions. and i'm wondering what happens as the united states gets closer to the election next year. and you know, we're already hearing from donald trump, for example. we've heard from ronda sanders possible candidates, but they would have, we're not doing that. it doesn't sound good for ukraine. is that going to bolster germany's role as being big, basically the clearinghouse here for aid?

while we're not happy about that, of course. and it is a little bit early to really say what's, you know, rhetoric and reality in the way of selections. but yes, absolutely. i mean, we'll, we kind of rely all the time on the west and that we should step up our efforts and be really the long term guarantors. um and germany is doing more. however, at the same time, we also know germany is not ready yet on the whole front. so for example, when we're talking about security guarantees for, for potential natal accession, who's going to do it? i mean, there was still obviously necessary participation of prism to us and friends and with a german is going to be an actor to make the security guarantee. well, we'll see. and when i look at where the german government stands in terms of its commitment to helping ukraine and compare that to what the polls tell us, the german public things, these 2 things don't reflect each other, do they? well, i mean, it always depends on how you phrase the question. and i mean,

what i've seen is that there hasn't been a fundamental transformation yet on the whole of german public opinion. however, also the real bulk of protests have subsided, and i think there was an acceptance at least acceptance. i said, let's say for those deliveries. um, but we also see that germany, definitely a public opinion and also in various parties is not ready to for the next step with fighter planes or even more offensive weapons. so in that sense, the, the, the case to a piece that are with this cruise missiles and new drones and so on, so forth. so i think germany tries to play the solid role, the long term role and not the pay set or role. yeah, i think some tories will be glad to hear you. she said that about the u. k. tonight, i feel both along with the german institute of international and security affairs, both long as always we appreciate your time, your insights. thank you. well, no one lives forever, not even authoritarian rulers who have a tight grip on power. now this is

a fact that apparently has acute relevance for opposition. forces from bella, ruth's exile, the opposition leaders. but wanna see how those sky, yes says that her country should prepare for political change. her words come amid growing speculation over the health of bill of ruth's young leader, alexander lucas. shank. he's been noticeably absent from a series of public events over the past 6 days. he was last seen in moscow on may, the 9th for the celebrations of the soviet victory over nazi germany and the kremlin house confirmed lucre cinco is under the weather. they say he just needs rest though of course, there's no way to verify the claim. here is opposition leader to have no sky of speaking earlier today. so we actually have to know a lot of information about the she's the state of health. but i think that said, she's very seldom dozens of people. so i shall, long periods of time in problem. so now the discussion of the plan,

you know what to do if something rooms happens to him because it will be chaos in the regime. and it will be point where we can start more the size of sections aside builders. all right, i'm gonna bring in now. honda because she is a journalist from bella. ruth and a non resident fellow at the atlantic council is good to have you on the program. let me pick your brain and, and pick out your sources. what are you hearing about the health of alexander lucas, jacob? so there is not so much information, but actually today for the 1st time, the time in 6, the slow cushion copier can public. so he visited this central commons of the air force uh, in the lowest. and he's still looking to week. he had a really horse and breathy voice, and he hasn't been dosh on his hands. she spencer this come on around one hours and

he come back to probably presumably his residence. so it's being a if please the 6th day. so when she does not appear in public, and we know that the from several sources that on saturday, he allegedly visited a hospital and then his from the rooms 2 hours and then his mother came to the back . so there are many stipulations about his health and as you imagine is such a dictatorship as the literacy is. he is the state of health is a state secrecy. yeah, i mean, and we're looking, we're just looking at those pictures from it today. we see the bandage on his head, but you're right, i mean we're, we're just guessing we, we try to diagnose of what his condition is. if lucas think of, if he is unable to continue in office and talk to me about the, the, the path to succession. is there an obvious successor, or is this a basically an extension of lucas think up. so it is in the way indeed an

extension of local shame. however, the constitution of the roost that was changed to last year during the sham referendum, proposes offers 2 scenarios. if you dice, if you process a weight of them the had the chairperson of the national council is going to be and he's going to be in charge. the concern of a, if uh, he's killed. if something volumes that happens done, the security council is going to be in charge of them. the pilot been trying to basically now he's going to preside over the council. but it's very interesting because because she is the head of this offer house, i'll put you on brooklyn parliament. and she doesn't really has a, she doesn't really has power over the government, which might create a legal crisis in bellows. and it might be a vacuum of power, a vacuum, his power and who would feel that would that be something that split long ot out into the sky, you could come, could you come out of exile and try to feel that when we see vladimir putin try to

rush in and take what he already considers to be his of course anything can happen for the democratic forces. it's not very crucial to start negotiations to appeal to those people inside the circle inside the system. saying that the done to come most of the democratic forces are ready to take power. and that the re small, sort of these power struggles inside the system. and so one, but the russia is looking as well. russia is now the car, but the forest moscow has a lot of control over the government over the power vertical and border was in the disclosure also for the western world. not to the world. what's going to happen and beller was very soon and also have a close eye because russia will definitely will try to influence the situation and will try to a point or help a point, the next leader. but the force, i think, in any case, in any scenario, legally, there must be new elections and those. and this is where i think all the sort of

power struggles will begin. but are you confident that we would see new elections? what they so the choice, what is going to happen? um instead, i think also we must not ignore the board was in society. of course, if russia would try to impose influence to a point somebody who the border since society does not accept. and then they might be some reaction, some response. then of course the leads will also try to gain some power and they that they would try to organize some competition and that will be a lot of rivalry. and of course, the rest of the community is looking as well. so we can not to sort of thing to think about the, you know, it will just happen as moscow would say, because they are not as powerful, i think as to be all attempts to believe i've got 20 seconds. let me ask you a 100 am if lucas shenika, if you were to die, for example, that the chances of rush are actually moving in? no, no, you know, mission creep actually moving in, in an annex thing and bella,

ruth, yes or no. this is going to be verified, the rest, it does not have enough for support the resources, but of course we need to release a closer look closely at what's happening there kind of back over. we appreciate your time, you're reporting excellent analysis as well. thank you. thank you as well. the day is almost done to the conversation. he continues online. you'll find this on twitter or either a dw news. you can follow me on twitter at brent golf tv. and remember, whatever happens between now and then, tomorrow is another day, we'll see you then every, the

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