was that i wish i could have done more to save. you just click away, i find the best document on you to really see the world as he's never seen it before. the dr. know to dw the as with so many african come fix, the latest fighting into dawn has brought death misery to huge numbers of civilians . this time, even the un has been shocked by what zip code the unprecedented speed of this integration. whatever happens to africa's long last promise to silence the guns, mo, abraham 6 ounces to such questions. these are suit, denise born bridges,

billionaire for the foundation, the researches africa's problems and rewards. those who try to solve them. fuzzy ever lose faith in africa. the feedbacks in some countries, unfortunately, one of them is my country. but we, we would find a way for one of the core of africa's problems. he says, is that governance from why is it still so prevalent? how was it that african leaders voted themselves immunity from prosecution for the most serious crimes and what's behind the refused or some states to condemn most goes invasion of ukraine? is it payback for the rows of colonial occupies but we bring him some welcome to conflicts of thanks to so you've tried so many years to promote a governance in africa, in some countries you've had some success,

but the violence never seems to go away and sit on the country of your bus, decades of fighting another king has become again, an honest how personal is this conflict to you is very best instead of work. and i will be able to have a bit of this. and what we have here is 2 sides to this. fighting a button in, in our capital. each side wants power and was power comes financial results. this is instead of the story and this is tory of sold. yes. i made it to the cause is essentially old story unfortunately. and enough is enough for all those guys, despite the treasures by both sides to respect humanitarian principles, that hasn't been the slightest effort to avoid civilian casualties. why is it okay?

absolutely. i don't see the shift each of them think they can. somehow, when this don't, they cannot be a, we're not here to kind of deal with not only lose us ever this find is losing. i do so that these people are losing, the little flesh that we have is being destroyed. detective really isn't a mess. and most of it is of buying them sold. yes. it's, it is, it is very sad. do you ever lose faith in africa? no. despite to this, that's going to yeah, that's when can 3 out of 54 guns according to on ethics. in the last, over the last 10 years, you know, we would use an index so much of governance in africa. the majority of episodes of applicants living in a bit of government countries that 10 years ago. so are moving forward. that's it

backs in some countries. unfortunately, one of them is my country. but we, we would find a way for what but this conflict is you've also said is taking place against the really dismal tapestry of back, sliding democracy as the number of states, bad governments. you've quoted africa's own goal. and you said we are responsible for how much of africa shit is your sense of responsibility for this? we okay. this the funding governor, governor to z d. i bought a number of, of, of deliverables. one of them of course, is human rice delivery. a bunch of patient is here today. i don't the boxes you know, corner me then does the human developments and the business rules security and the picture. the bishop is really mix. yes. to course, over the last 10 years, i forgot made the point of progress in the area of infrastructure and human

development bits of educational based on handbook not secured, not security. i'm sort of low. is going down actually why, why is the connection between the 2? that the problem is marginalization of minorities and sometimes a its inclusion, a creative assessment. uh. then you have also extend the effective as like climate change with your end up with conflicts between they have those of the farmers. and if that's not to manage, it ends up, it's a basic, a conflict. so that happened in the for i didn't have a claimant on legitimate, but she is then using the dish just to sort out the problem that end up and see 100000 people get. so it is, it, is, it mismanagement also of natural disaster habiting because of climate. that's one

element you you, you said earlier this year we started to see qu data, which we saw it was something in the past. we started to see this phenomena of a strong man. it's something we need to fight back against. how do you fight these so called strong men who are entrenched in the countries across out africa, protected sometimes by foreign policy, often by criminal gangs that kill for the sake of it. how. how do you fight back against these? i think john, john, people are looking at what's happening and thoughtful. we had a strong balance of that and for the test to use in today, just general, but she was infection about 430 is created for this military organizational. and i was just no time off for him to have an army, he couldn't get into the support forces and called him him id. you know, it just hasn't for him, it is my board section and they had the chance to just have them

army, his party has the main issue. he had ordered the stuff which is just kind of just quotes. so to use hit the same kids who grew up on the he's or go to the guys what volume you the city for them. oh gosh, a, this is a and b will will give us whole because they will not accept the soldier. they will not accept a tylen need, they will not accept the death of ships and you went to just city to 3. it is now green solution. so then, because the young people would not accept this or just you, you say, you say that you say that, but that's one of the more depressing by products of conflict and back governance is that africans are showing increasing tolerance for the role of military and politics. according to afro barometer report last month, that view is particularly strongly young people, 18 to 35 year old. after a barometer reported that over the last decade, opposition to military rule has declined significantly. now a slim majority,

there's a majority, is willing to accept military intervention if elected officials abuse the past, that has to be dangerous for them. of course, at least it is dangerous, and the problem is you take, given a for example, we have to have as book on the ap using fall off his power. and then trying to day was the constitution someplace the, the, the, the position i'm fed and a guy who was the democrat before getting follow didn't power gets to his head. and now being the data. when electrical came again, this is guy. you understand why people say all as one. definitely good today to for him. so down, know, 3, the supporting committed to the cool happy to get rid of the really a corner of civilian who really up using the constitution end up losing his

body if uh yeah its spectrum. good. but then, but then the problem is you are, you are a blessing, the song was a different, i mean that, that is, it doesn't work like that. that's why i, i us be, will need to live that to is lives in los, to, to seek z for of a bad z that's. it's also important to know what you're going for. and this is, that is this sort of ended up meant as support usability. the cool again, is that somebody effort to the 2nd but the tim, tim, about about the, the, the, the strong man. unfortunately, this is something we can passion of work with only in africa. our guys in africa, lou cut out on the seat or just feeling been strong, mean all over the place. you know, and we have probably not states will have the key was russia will have

china, web philippines, what, how many strong men of them we see this fraction of strong people is, is coming back again. what about this? and i was, i look at this and say all that is wonderful when it comes to do like are all the about why i cannot be like to order the again, why cannot be like this is a painful, strong man. unfortunately, as we need to wake up to that is not an african phenomenon, it's a problem. let me know. i'd like to talk back and go back to the bottom of this has taken place since the done at the moment. um one to the violence according to the un, which should both sides trump cling on humanitarian go back in 2010, the new york times bureau chief, east africa reported on how come back in africa had moved from soldier verse a soldier to soldier versus civilian. most of africa's fighters,

he said what rebels with a course, they would predators. and for them, tara became not just a means but and to what extent is that still the case? this is, it is unfortunate to pay for that and i'm coming some countries of last week. i'll have seen like a blank was in the list in the last few years. unfortunately, we thought we finished, i'm thought that was you. cool. you know, this is each at a and a 70 sixties and seventies where every morning we used to have a course on wedding. i think we thought that just finished unfortunate is coming back and something we need to be careful about this then that gave us an extra division question. i mean, i know it is, is today is to say this, but in all honesty, do we need armies in africa. why do we need it? what does the job of the items the item is suppose to protect? you have bought that. who is it in the african category? so i think i don't have applicant categories to, to have any,

was it between african countries? i don't record any. this is why you need the arms. who's been those this money to get those guys, bags and guns an arrow blades when i was the one to come on to that and yeah, i'm in a moment to, to i, i just, i don't think we need it. it is all nice. and those guys just big goal is this money of them and then they come much with us with the copy that i mean, what is last week? so does government told the un human rights council that it was basically none of the us business? what was happening inside 2000 was an internal affair. they said, and the student, nissan forces, who, of course of launched attacks. and this strikes intensely populated subsidiaries in the capital. as you said, they were simply doing their constitutional duty. what do you say to a government like that? does it make you angry for the hobby bombing its own people in the capital is just doing its constitution, but the government does not just talk to the shipment. who records those guys?

government? it's the only government they have. i just it always people just took it by paula by guns. yeah. look you lifted that no to drive, look at it, but yeah, i mean, those guys just, you know, making. busy a lot of shows in general, those on the f i live or things acting, bouncing this while the african states that african union actually is, is, is so it's been that, so then that's it. that's all they've done. what else comes they do? what is the problem? is the applicant here that hasn't well just on the bottom me for a long time, english at this time, the force of the epic. i do any action be finite and should be on then it is able to go and deal with all of those claim and those of dental risk and whatever. unfortunately, ethic under that hasn't been hasn't cause it has plenty of good intentions, doesn't to. but it doesn't realize all the motor power. what, what, what happens assignments with guns by one and t 20? yes. what happens? what? what about 6, what is the account for does have an applicant here? what about security? because why does this security account?

i think a lot of people forgotten about the schedule cause is defined by the veto, is that the 5 comes, i guess, is for head lice with the whole bubbly order is in a mess. the whole public, the whole, the whole world of this, you know, or just global instruction. i miss you quoted accounts. it is important. cannot do anything. yeah. for, can you open the thesis? they don't have the means to accept it. they've had all the extra bliss. i think he's more on the wage which included the codes have kind of even things. so we're not seeing much of that. that's where i saw the this is that did it. and finish incidentally, did. we have to come for us 2 weeks ago as we had most of our keywords or now guys in the conference and just clear what the stand ones they want to do at that if it's, if it comes to kind of to see what i can look even expressed on obedience and what's going on for them. shift for you have access all over the come to do you. have you talk to either of the generals that are causing this concept to sit down

at the moment. i know i, i don't have enough common ground even to start the conversation. i believe was guys of goodness that should end up and take will they if i to i. ready i hope so. what's the, what's the chance of 11 day it would come one day look that she had ended up in prison. i'd be able to sit all what but, but she understood. nobody can touch him. he wasn't pretty sure what happened to him. i'm afraid that is not what happened. the african codes pushing for african solutions and offering african accountability by what happened to that i thought from guinea in central african republic, where the trial i think is important to support the i. c. i o. projected to there is an attempt to replace either c without an applicant court. so i don't think that was the right decision actually. and again, you look at the weight, that quote was good you too, which is which it cannot. it cannot,

but it's cute but is it is yes, i gave $1000.00 entity for me. exactly. so i asked, i said, why is i yeah. is this going to end up really was getting taxi drivers, unofficial men, but they're not my good. it's gotta do that. why was a special court it just city, it just some visits wants to executive sense from vice receipts. and that was a bundle of what to do. i'm sorry about that. so then no quick fixes for this was done that's going on and it will spread to the region, so maybe spread to west stuff. what has that? what about south su? done? is that next? okay, is it a different institution so that i've come to it? but i think we cannot give up, but then we'll have to deal with it quickly before the fire splits is all these will continue to hold. what i mean as it is very encouraging to see united states

is involved. so you gotta be as involved. most of them phantom shows dr. applica new and you have this in volume and yeah, it does involve the cost is invalid. so our messages, yeah. most of those guys would have that be conference in that will be our foundation. i know those guys was there and the message to everybody is we need to speak with one voice now or the other voice or the nearby cancer. this was one voice. and we need to ensure that we would this fire out would need to buy in any x most of our to the division of death. and we need to, to be able to look either we have or we're going to go often, you to youtube, you told, telling me about foreign armies being in african countries. i think there are 13 for an armies actually at the moment in various african countries. how healthy do you think it is for africans to, to welcome in rushes, musson or the group?

of course, the bottom, the, for instance, notorious in ukraine and not expanding its footprint across from tops of students that unacceptable. and you'll notice who invited them many communities in the number of western countries that's being comes to nation, that some african countries have been ambivalent to in the case of south africa, mutual over russia's invasion of ukraine. is this payback for the west for the, for the wrongs of the colonial era is that while i know the rule is the community that templates be fact. gigi lucian, america distribution called for the a. a good gaming, the violation of the silver and see what else i can think of you create of your claim and maybe african people said,

excuse me. what did america do that i was actually against was that not breach of security? so for the other countries, so why did they cut them both in a 2nd, but from us to woods? this is a jewish and for what was a little bit media on the lice. i think you had mentioned have once you sort of a new issue on because your money object it to the invasion of that back. but is all for us to what is it as a jewish out because any excuse me, you have him to correct that is neutral. really the size of the as it is kind of use your boy. i the, these items are the collection of rooms or those you can me out of that. it was only applies to russia. look us, let's look, be hey, book this is appropriate. this is the problem. we need to look at the middle or sometimes the relies. what do we say and what you do,

what happens in libya would then blogs is candidly, we never put it together, but again, is this acceptable? what do you make? look, i'm not going to be honest and dealing with this stuff. so it looked like the width is the why it on or the mac? nobody side. okay, so, so don't lift. you don't collection of other people and say, you look icon them. and i think it is a problem if it's unacceptable for russia to evade euclid. and there's no question back in the same place i called the american invasion of over that act . because this is, is equivalence. and we need to remember that, i just hope that people, when you talk about the natural rules you should applies to everybody, you know exceptionally well. even what do you make of america's charge? last week that south africa had loaded onto

a sanctioned russian freighter. if you make of that child i, i'm really confused. exactly as to why the bus that i believe you guys. but we only have south africa's version for saying he apologized. he didn't know that. what was your tell? he didn't apologize in public. oh, i saw a guy who wrote that didn't bbc website actually that he didn't like know south africa says he apologize to that but, but then they denied the judge. but when it, when they did denied the wording was, i'm big us. they said we didn't approve any arms to russia. it wasn't sanctioned or approved by us. suggest that was something to some place i that i pay with what i'm afraid that the south advocate has a number of issues i think and where is easy?

where is the government? i think is the broberg we is losing it's, it's a grip on power effectively as it some somewhere today that is possible. is that the for is that even though that we have of what happened. they cannot admit that because they say ok this instead of what if he's at with i'd say the light is also terrible of that medical group. what's wrong with those? no. a medical reports now a more accurate exam before uh i mean, drink act. it's a z levels of mazda, of a section on the, which is again what i wish actually. but during the throat, in the world, the amenities have been very accurate and i bought it. so i did it all. it's not. and i don't know what does to, so what happened there,

but i notice digital division of governance in south africa. i was big public about this, right? in the time we have left, we talked a lot about what african countries have or haven't done. what do you, what the west to face briefly, what do you want the west to do? 5. i think i think the west need really to we have in a much with that way. look at what is happening here. go with the game and you'll have to be probably all you to be on the that's 20. you'll be at least i think at least that was signed and that's out of published in 50. nobody see if i'm this ever. what do you see if i think i need support? we need to $100000000.00 budget and then nothing happens. good with, but not it's nothing done. then be able to hold. holding coffee, it's an excellent nationalist and this other seeing the guys, even in our headset, the supports nothing a day. and that was the, the bed,

the heavy tv. but at this job, because then then we'll see if i'm this everybody see if they know that. so one gauge was now for the same as i know it's after he left for the summit. 60 you africa. so yeah, that's what this you have to confirm. it was great, but you can see the different more. that's very important. look at the after got that. so there's no judy of coverage. $23000.00. out of said, yes, everyone gentlemen, in america, us, an inflicting auto seen is $23.00 young dollars off against the money. okay. and now does it say, what is happening when you create has a problem? when greece has a financial problem, the fund will it bank immediately searches out now what's

happening in zambia, what's happening instead of the other 2 years? does it act as you want them to apply with that? um and you want them to come down also on the list it cash and this is find the most do a 100000000000 dollars a $100000000000.00 they get most. let me not advocate lou. wisdom companies, 1900 price range and the best pricing and profit phone, you know, a lot of shifting and they know that i'm sick, i just want you to act. so with these really the best i would be here to be honest with my friends, and those really is a bit of what is or the bits of financial institution because these financial institution, i'm not said of in this house that dominated by width and most of the, you know, some ideas on the boards, etc. there's no voice and the board decision institutions from the guys and

supposed to be the customer of the clients of this, of these banks. that's why these banks would focus on greece. we're focusing on your credit, right? but so the lack of where to submit to the board that doesn't know what is what does that be a small avery and we run out of time. thank you very much indeed. dining on the complex. i'm going to give you a chance. thank you. the

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