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oldest ambitions to be within re what is it really is possible to reverse the researchers and scientists all over the world for a no race against time. they are peers and rivals with one daring goals to help smart nature. the more likes watching it on youtube dw documentary, the as for the most powerful person in the world, it has become part for the course of the us president travels abroad to attend an international summit. and his attention is immediately split between the agenda before him and the crisis back hall. us president biden is headed for japan for the annual g 7 summit of the world's leading industrialized democracies where this year
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suddenly the biggest threat to global stability and prosperity is the united states itself. tonight, america's dangerous dance with a debt that it may decide not to pay our brit golf in berlin. this is the day the americans rule is vital, especially right now trying to represent the most consequential field political challenge that we face today. i think you should not leave an issue focused on a debt limit here. so let's be clear. china is not debating whether to pay its debt, and i'll be in constant contact with my team while i'm at the to 7 buddhist boss. look at a deal by the way, just not that difficult to get to and agree. what i have done is i've cut my trip short also coming up with the culture wars over 60 reality and
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gender identity for florida. as teachers, the new law is don't say gay, half a world away in russia. if you don't want to go to prison, the rule is, don't be get cello violent since the beginning of the walls with the most l g b. it's like you organizations that have either been shut down by the thought of jesus, or they'll have to be evacuated from russia. which of our view is watching on cbs in the united states and to all of you around the world. welcome. we begin the day with the bottle to currency of american credibility. how much is it really worth? the united states is now just 2 weeks away from possibly defaulting on its debt. on june 1st, if the white house and congress cannot agree to raise the federal debt ceiling, washington will run out of money. it would be the 1st time and us history that uncle sam writes checks the balance. democrats or republicans have engaged in similar chicken fights over the debt ceiling before,
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but the option of default was never really one that anyone on either side of the political aisle took seriously. apparently, the commitment to country over party is not what it used to be. us president barton and congressional leaders are still in last minute negotiations. and those talks they'll continue at high level while he travels to the g 7 summit in japan. now the top of the agenda there, america to default or not. here is what bite and told reporters today before the party on air force one. america's role in the world is vital, especially right now is work together, other countries to support ukraine and take on the challenges demand, international cooperation and from tax climate crisis to strengthen the, the global economy. and before i leave, i want to say word about the status of the ocean issues with the congressional leaders. we had a productive meeting yesterday and it was all for leaders in the congress. it was
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civil and respectful and everyone came to the meeting and i think you're good faith . i'm confident that we'll get the agreement on the budget. if america will not default. now what i have done anticipation that we won't get it all done until i get back is i've cut my strip short in order to be for the final negotiations and sign deal with with the majority leader. i made clear that and i'll say it again, america is not that the nation. we pay our bills. nation is never to follow. the steps never will or as he was present, there's the get earlier today. polls that show support among americans for sending weapons to ukraine is slowly being a road around 48 percent. say that they support arms, the shipments now that number was 60 percent when the war began last year. and with that in mind, a small army of lobbyists are now pushing members of congress to keep up the
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military assistance, but they are not asking the tax payers to foot the entire bill. we have this report to show support for ukraine on capital hill. you pre action summit has brought together dozens of groups from around the country to keep pressure on congress. their message without us aid ukraine is lost. for carl larson, personally, we are joined the international legion and ukraine after the russian invasion began . any fighting your car to handle? he said he saw a comrades died because of the lack of equipment and all this. this is a piece of the show that that killed him and almost killed me. it hit him and we didn't have a generator. so our, our batteries on our radios didn't work and we didn't have the now he said this codes are still staying with the comrades blood. most americans bank, or we send
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a $100000000000.00. they must be driving gold plated paints over there, right? know, they don't have even been a boots in the snow, where the u. s. government falls short, larson believes crowd funding can step in. he's successfully fundraising over $100000.00 to buy non lethal military equipment and send it to ukrainian soldiers. and he's created a workshop to teach others how to do the same. while civilians can't send the heavy weapons key of his asking for they can still do a lot. he says they issued us summer sleeping bags and most of my guys did not get winter's leaking bags until like february, so they literally were wrapping themselves in garbage bags. there's a lot of miscellaneous stuff here. we won't get into neat pads. drones, 550 cord power banks, super important, super important. this is a really nice tool. you can use this on your plate. carrier mounts right here, right? now's right here instead of this pouch. and then it's on your chest and you put
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your phone in it. so then you can like, when you're on maneuvers, you know, you can look at where your map is and where you have to go. so we're buying these and we're shipping them over your larson isn't just in washington to talk fundraising. a big part of his activism is meeting with lawmakers and their advisors to call for bigger and better arms deliveries. you know, it feels good to deliver equipment and we've, we've generate a lot of money and a lot of equipment. but we all realize the big win is getting the us government to give you create enough tools to win, not just to survive as the word drags on more and more americans are questioning costs of funding ukraine for larson that makes this work all the more urgent for more than 40 countries at a summit of european leaders that have agreed on a plan to make russia pay for its war against ukraine,
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they were meeting in iceland today. one of the ideas is a register of complaints. there's also the idea being supported by the netherlands and the u. k. of possibly boosting ukraine's air combat capabilities. day 2 of the council of europe summit in iceland got off to a stormy start, bought with a clear signal. more than 40 countries approved a system to document the destruction and ukraine caused by russia. germany says it will help finance this register of damage to this. my goodness, i get to that as a 1st step to the aim of a damage register is to ensure and enforce the accountability. russia must pay for the damage it has cause i'm going to touch the baton ukraine's prime minister dentistry hall said the register was a milestone on the path towards injustice and reparations turkey hungry and serbia
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said they will not participate in the damage register. but iceland prime minister, a catherine yackel daughter was never the less pleased by the strong consensus. it's not a surprise that not everybody signs, but i am very happy that the overwhelming majority is signed with them. on the sidelines of the meeting, there were talks on providing fighter jets for ukraine. the u. k and the netherlands are trying to form an international coalition. democracies like ours must build resilience so that we can out cooperates and outcompete those who drive instability. for his part, the german chancellor reiterated that his government currently has no plans to deliver combat aircraft to kids. so i want to get back to the, our top story and that is america dangerously close to possibly defaulting on his debt. talking about that i'm going to pull in clayton, alan. he's with the razor group. clinton is a former policy advisor to the us senate. he's also worked in the financial sector
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. clayton is good to have you with this. i mean that is the question everyone is asking right now. so i'm going to ask you, are we about to see the united states default on it's dead for the 1st time in its history? this. so the good news is, i can tell you that that's very unlikely. the problem is how you actually get to an agreement to raise the debt ceiling and avoid a potential default is probably going to be pretty messy. and it probably will involve a lot of the 11th hour shut down, that the markets are gonna that markets react to negative. so when we default, no, probably not. will it be really painful to get a deal to avoid that default? yes, it probably will not. so you're going to have jittery markets, which could possibly on wipe out, you know, some people for a one case or parts of them momentarily. and this will obviously dominate the talk at the upcoming g 7 summit as well. just how distracting is this home grown debt crisis in the united states going to be at the g 7? would you say? so?
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i think it'll be relatively distracting. so you've seen president biden cancel, plan to meetings trust trail. yes, for quite some of the quad nations as well as the visit to pop when you're getting the the what is in the 1st us sitting president present it does it. you're getting the signal that cancelling both those visit st sends is perhaps not that devastating. functionally, things like the us and australia is trans, arrangement is going to continue for instance, but symbolically. it shows that the us is pretty well distracted by political division here at home. at the g 7 summit, i would imagine that the 1st question by who's going to receive from every foreign leader is how are you handling the debt crisis? can we trust that the us is going to have stability and his government funding and the ability to deliver on the promises you've made to all of these other apartment nations for around the weather store and ukraine or other areas like walk ration on clean energy. yeah, missed a good point if the g subbing is looking to counter chinese in fluids through the
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belt and road project. i mean, how are they going to be able to do that? if you've got a superpower, the us with republicans in congress saying no more spending cut. this is a great question and think that the real question here is to full. it's not just do you cut spending, is there less money available? the question is also, how willing is each for the party in the us to use the policy achievements of its predecessor as a political hostage. that is how much volatility can the world expect in u. s. foreign policy, diplomatic policy, and just general approach to the rest of the world. when you switch control between republicans or democrats, something that happens very regularly and to be honest, given the current rate of 4 position you're in, the us seems likely to happen more frequently. there's definitely going to be more frequent changes in white house controlling, moving forward at every election rather than the president serving 2 terms. as you
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know, at the beginning of the program, i oppose the question, you know of how we're the is the currency of american credibility right now. and i mean, you, you bring up a very good point. if you've got political leaders and capital hill, who are willing to use this debt threat as a political party, that since a very unreliable, i would even say of sophomore immature message to america's allies, doesn't mean you were not a reliable partner. the way we used to be is that the message that's being sent in some way as i think it is a i would also say is not necessarily a new method. remember, we had a devastating showdown over the test using 820112015 are public and senator sent a letter essentially saying that any tenants of the rodney killer deal or nolan void as soon as we can present donald trump delivered on that pro process, and i think that those events combined with what we're going through right now, do you set an expectation that knowledge of political volatility in control of
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washington does render some us commitments trustworthy then they might otherwise be viewed and certainly the events are on this particular debt sort, showdown might have at that for quite a while. yeah, i'm going to just ask before we run out of time and other questions about ukraine, i mean, a new funding for ukraine would. obviously it would need republican backing in congress. is that under threat now when the issue comes up again? i mean, what deals will mccarthy be willing to more willing to strike with outliers if, if he does a deal on the debt ceiling? i mean, is he going to say, okay, i'll give you, i'll save it from defaulting, but don't ask me for more money for weapons for you. great. so this is an issue that i think is somewhat misunderstood. actually, you have a huge push to cut domestic spending, and to be honest, there is a push from the very far right to for telling you printing. but in general, military aid to ukraine has very strong bi partisan support. me. i think that that
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means that you do see additional 8 of proof this year. just one note we might be having that debate a lot sooner than expected because there's only about 6000000000 of the 48000000000 that was approved in december of last year. left, if we keep sending aid at its current rate, evans usaid runs out in july. so there's a huge need for this to become a much more media topic of conversation. well, think ultimately the do get additional 8 approved that keeps us assistance as stable level for the remainder of this year. yeah, well, if the congress gets through the debt crisis, like from what you're saying, it's going to be a hot summer. come late july, claim allen, with the you raise your website we. we appreciate your time and your insights today . thank. so thank you for the time the events are taking place around the world to mark this international de against homophobia by phobia and trends. so it'd be
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organizers the rights say, the rights of that would you be q people are increasingly at risk in some places? well, many countries have perhaps legislation recognizing transgender or same sex parents, right? other countries are rolling back protections and their approaches across the united states, activists. as you see there say that hundreds of new laws had been passed recently to curtailed the rights of eligibility to people. in russia, anyone who is not straight or who appears to be straight and makes that public well, they can be arrested. the chances of that have increased sharply since the start of the more and you create a new law bands. what authorities are labeling j propaganda. the russian active speech or foss, crisen scheme says it's as if l g b t q, people are no longer allowed to exist. you told the w news and he decided to flee his home country and to come to germany before it's too late. i mean,
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when you i have mixed feelings and thoughts out of original handbook. apple. it took last feel that was kasinsky has funded and wrapped into any of the stuff over in 3 different countries. the attribute to q x to this was forced to leave his homeland in order to avoid political persecution. the g 7 years with my entire life is now inside here, one suitcase and one back. i didn't want to leave the but event prove that i made the right decision. somebody there has been developments relating to the new law on so called l g b, t to propaganda feel that it was kasinsky has been championing eligible to q rights in russia since 2007, when poor to source to possible who used to go out and demonstrate, he lost the tim to promote toner as to what sexual minorities in russia was. his private museum exhibited art related to the russian eligibility q has 3. but to, to had to close it down all through see even more in class with the human rights
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organization support. it was christians came, he's escaped to germany, which, you know, since the invasion began on february, the 24 months to go to for it became clear to me that i'm afraid to attract them with a negative a lot. in the 1st few months of the, i was even afraid to leave my apartment going to the door. the skis worried about the safety of queer people in russia. he says that manually from fear, particularly those in small towns and will areas. then you log in to what's being called quote, l g, b to q propaganda was passed by the russian, pelham and plus here, it basically aims to bend any depictions of homosexuality that might be seen as positive. such elevating the since the beginning of the walls with the most l g, b flat, q. organizations that have either been shut down by the o thought of jesus, or they'll have to be evacuated from russia. they're only a few initiatives. let that help b l g b to community all locations. and it's not clear how long they will continue to exist because the state is targeting active, it's
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a big deal forward. he's going to do anything they want to when nobody is there to resist the stuff edition. yeah. to send you a more expensive part itself fullness build. that whiskey sense keeps going to spend the next few months in the shelter for a few trees. he says, the most important thing is that he's safe. no, he aims to support real people in russia from germany. if that is possible, i seen you as much as a check. it's impossible to live in russia. if you understand what is going on the, the quote, and if you a, l, g b t q, it's right. it's twice as dreadful because you get told by everyone that us so human and unworthy of existence. as well as the w, as must go. bureau chief, your shadow is now based in the re good in laughter. you may remember, dw is banned from reporting in russia. erie has more on the experience of eligibility to people in russia. well, it all depends on how you live. and if you show you how, how much extra ality all,
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you'll be transgender and turn sexual and to where you live. and in the cities, of course, of the 2 people have, it's much easier then in the countryside. but that is no different to you. and you are, the problem in russia isn't everyday life, but as a potential banjo that the o duplicate community permanently faces and disease denture is human firstly in the latoria is low on so called gabriel down to we saw it into the cold. and that is, eddie pro gave remark even price about a film, for example, any remark that is not a negative can be punished because it could be understood as positive and ultimately gape again that. and secondly, it's about the general fault of the states to persecute people who think differently and especially in times of war. it's about people who publicly protest against this so called special mutual directions. ukraine, if you also gave you, are these a target for there are some justice system that was the reset of their reporting. my next guest is maria. so the executive director of the advocacy group called out
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right, which aims to advance equality and help in discrimination. marie, it's good to have you back on the program. this is the, the international day against these phobia of the fear of homosexuals bisexuals transsexuals of what do eligibility, few people have to fear most for for their safety, for their lives. what do they have to fear most tonight? so i think it's obvious, it is, depends on exactly what's country and what's the context you are looking at. but what we have seen is that i think in many countries, we have seen the rights of others. yeah. q people advance over the last several decades. and right now i have to say i'm that's optimistic that i've been in a long time because of this backlash that we see that is too large to be specifically targeting trails people and trans issues. and i think that is the
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biggest concern at the moment, but, and in that, of course, it's also like you just talked about in the last, russia is used on the they have passed the law that we consider to be the worst on the planet. mm hm. and where we have actually talked about it in terms so dennis, being based on genocide a lie the all okay. so there's a lot of concern this year's of the theme it is it together always united in diversity and we were talking about this in the news room and wondering do we belong together? i mean, we, we've seen this merging of sexual orientation rights with gender identity rights in the last 10 years, particularly in the united states. as your opinion do, do gay and lesbians do they have something in common with trans people or people who have gender identity issues or are they united some way?
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i have to say, i don't think this is a new issue. we in the sort of other get you over. that'd be awesome. track the stone war riots that happened in 1969 in new york city. as a key moment in our movement as the stone wall rise, sometimes talked about us as the gate. right, or the start of the gate pride movement really well started by trans women of color . so this idea that we're somehow separate, it's just not a base in, in historical facts. although menu of us may not be quite as aware how closely these issues are. i have to say that, i mean one of the things that may get to be 2 people targets can be how are gender is perceived. mm hm. and so if you are feminine gay man, or if you are a basket and present the woman of that's piano or not,
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you can become it much more of a target. so the idea that these issues are separate. if i don't, i don't believe that they are. i think we are much stronger actually when we work together. when we die, let me get your opinion on this a. it seems in the united states that at just right after um, but same sex marriage was made legal for the entire country. that is when we started hearing politicians address trans issues and, and attacking trans people that we've just seen that crescendo. since then, i mean did, did you notice that when one issue maybe was put to arrest the other emerged, or is that just a perception issue? i do think that there is truth that i think that there is a backlash that comes with the increased visibility. and i think in some ways, the acceptance of same sex relations and decides,
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does this mean it's very significant majority in the united states that are positive to marriage equality. and i say that those who oppose not they don't just suppose trans people's human rights. they oppose, i think in many cases, human rights for, for the entire of the beat. yeah. can spectrum. but i think it has just made trans people a better or sort of a more accessible target. because i don't think that the acceptance levels have reached the same level in florida. i think because of on this visibility, each individual transfers and be maybe more if they are out, they may be more visible in their circles, but fewer people know someone who is trans. maria is pretty good talking with you. back to say a white background. you've got there outright with maria on it. um. yeah, you're the big leagues now. thank you. we appreciate you taking the time to talk with us tonight. thank you so much. i or for the day is almost done the
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conversation, it continues online. you'll find this on twitter, either a dw news, you can follow me on twitter at britain golf and tv, and remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day we'll see you then everybody, the
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