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billionaire for the foundation, the researches africa's problems and rewards. those who tried to sofa, fuzzy ever lose faith in africa. the feedbacks in some countries, unfortunately, one of them is my country. but we, we were to find a way for one of the core of africa's problems. he says, is bad governance for why is it still so prevalent? how was it that african leaders voted themselves immunity? from prosecution to the most serious crimes. and what's behind the refuse or some states to condemn most goes invasion of ukraine. is it paid back for the rows of colonial, occupies the mo, most welcome to come pick. so thanks. i us, you've tried so many years to promote that governance in africa,

in some countries you've had some success, but the violence never seems to go away. and su, don, the country of your bus decades of fighting another killing has become again, an honest how personal is this conflict to you is very best instead of work. and i will be able to have both of them this. and what we have here is 2 sides to this. fighting a button in an hour capital each side wants power and was power comes financial results. this is instead of the story. and this is tory of, for just a minute to the course is essentially old story, unfortunately. and enough is enough for all those guys, despite the treasures by both sides, to respect humanitarian principles. that hasn't been the slightest effort to avoid

civilian casualties. why is it ok? absolutely. i don't see the shift. each of them think they can. somehow when this don't, they cannot be a we're not here. they cannot be one of the only who is us ever this find is losing . i do. so then these people are losing, the little infrastructure we have is being destroyed. detective really isn't a mess. and most civilians are buying them soldiers. it's, it is, it is very sad. do you ever lose faith in africa? no. despite to this, that's going to get, but that's when can 3 out of $54.00 can cause on index. in the last, over the last 10 years, you know, we would use an index submission of governance in africa. the majority of episodes of applicants living in a bit of government countries that 10 years ago. so are moving forward. that's it

backs in some countries. unfortunately, one of them is my country. but we, we would find a way for what but this conflict is you've also said is taking place against the really dismal tapestry of back, sliding democracy as the number of states, bad governments. you've quoted africa's own goal. and you said we are responsible for how much of africa shit is your sense of responsibility for this week. okay, this define governor governor to z d. i bought a number of, of, of deliverables. one of them, of course, is human rice delivery. a bunch of patient is here today. i don't have boxes, you know, corner me then is a human developments. and it has a ruler of security. and the bitch of the bishop is really mix. yes. to course, over the last 20 years,

i forgot made the progress in the area of infrastructure and human development bits of educational because i have a non secured, no security, i'm sort of low, is going down and actually why, why is the connection between the 2 that the problem is marginalization of minorities and sometimes a, it's, it's intrusion, a creative assessment. a didn't have also extend the effect as like climate change with you end up with the conflict between they have those of the farmers. and if that's not to manage, it ends up because there is a conflicts like happening in the 4th. i didn't have a criminal legit on it, but she has been using malicious to sort out the probably the end up and see $100000.00 people get so it is it is it mismanagement also of natural

disaster habiting because of climate. that's one in you. you said earlier this year we started to see qu data, which we saw it was something in the past. we started to see this phenomena of a strong man. it's something we need to fight back against. how do you fight these so called strong men who are entrenched in the countries across south africa? protected sometimes by foreign policy, often by criminal gangs that kill for the sake of it. how. how do you fight back against these? i think young young people are looking at what's happening and custom weatherstone . banners. so then for the test to use in today's shed, jenna. but she was infection above for 13 years created for this military organization. and i was just no time off with him to have an army. he couldn't get into the support forces and called him him, might be, you know, and just had that for him at the is my board section. and the,

the collision center just has an army. his party has him an issue. he had ordered the stuff, the changes curriculum just course. so 2 years hit the same kids who grew up on the he's or those are the guys were dying in the city for the most a. this is a and b will will give us whole because they will not accept the soldier. they will not accept at tyler any. they will not accept the death of ships and you went to just the need for 3 years now. we're going to lose you soon. so then, because the young people would not accept this or just you, you say, you say that you say that, but that's one of the more depressing by products of conflict and back governance is that africans are showing increasing tolerance for the role of military and politics. according to afro barometer report last month, that view is particularly strongly young people, 18 to 35 year old. after a barometer reported that over the last decade,

opposition to military rule has declined significantly. now a slim majority, there's a majority, is willing to accept military intervention if elected officials abuse the past, that has to be dangerous for them. of course, at least it is dangerous. and the problem is you take guinea for example, we have to have as book on the ap using fall off his boss and then trying to deal with the constitution someplace the, the, the, the position. i'm fed and a guy who was a democrat before getting paula didn't paul, it gets to his head. and now being the data, when electrical came again, is this guy you understand why people say oh, as one of the for a good thing for him. so don't know, 3 the supporting committee to the cool, happy to get rid of the really a quarter of a civilian who really up using the constitution end up losing his body

if uh yeah its spectrum. good. but then, but then the problem is you are, you are a blessing, the song was a different, i mean that, that is, it doesn't work like that. that's why i, i, its people need to live that there is also enough to to seek the form of a bad z that's. it's also important to know what you're going for. and this is that instead of ending up midnight support your community. cool again, is that somebody effort to decide what's the tim, tim, about about the, the, the, the strong man. unfortunately, this is something we can passion of work with only in africa. our guys in africa, lou cut out on the seat or just feeling mean strong. mean all about the place, you know, and we have something that states will have delta t last,

russia will have china web for the beans. what, how many strong men are then? we see this fraction of a strong board is, is coming back again. what about this and i was, i look at this and say all that is wonderful when it comes to do like, are already about why i cannot be like to order those out. and why cannot be like this is a painful, strong man, unfortunately. and we need to wake up to that is not an applicant phenomenon. it's a global phenomenon. i'd like to talk back and go back to the bottom of this has taken place since the done at the moment, one to the violence according to the un, which should both sides trampling on humanitarian. now, back in 2010, the new york times bureau chief, east africa, reported on how come back in africa had moved from soldier verse a soldier to soldier versus civilian most of africa's fighters. he said what rebels

with the cost people predators? and for them, tara became not just a means, but an end. to what extent is that still look, this is, it is unfortunate to pay for that and i'm coming some countries of last week. i'll have seen like a blank was in the list in the last few years. unfortunately, we thought we finished invest. that was you cool. you know, this is each at a, in the 70 sixties and seventies, where every morning we used to have a course on wedding. i think we saw that this finished unfortunate is coming back and something we need to be careful about this. then that gave us an extra rigid question. i mean, i know it is estimated to say this, but in all honesty, do we need armies in africa? why do we do that? what does the job of the items the item is suppose to protect you on board? that who is in the african countries setting, i don't have african countries to,

to have any, was it between african countries? i don't recall any. this is why you need the arms who's been though, is this money to get those guys, bags and guns an arrow blades when i want the one to come on to that and yeah, i'm in a moment to, to, i, i just, i don't think we need it, it is all nice and those guys has been goals as many of them, and then they come much with us with the copy that. i mean, what is last week? so does government told the un human rights council that it was basically none of the u. n's business, what was happening inside to done was an internal affair. they said, and the student needs armed forces. so of course of launched attacks, and this strikes intensely populated subsidiaries in the capital. as you said, it was simply doing the constitutional duty. what do you say to a government like that? does it make you angry for the hobby bombing its own people in the capital is just doing its constituted by the government? that's not, that's not a shipment. what causes those guys government?

it's the only government they have. i just it always people just took and buy bought buy guns. yeah. look, you lifted that no, to drive, look at it, but yeah, i mean, those guys just, you know, making themselves lot of shows in general those on the. busy i never have active bouncing this while the african states that african union actually is, is, is suspended. so then that's it. that's all they've done. what else comes into, what is the problem is applicant here and it hasn't. well, just on the bottom me for a long time english, it just started the force of the african you any actually the finance should be on, then it is able to go and deal with all of those claim and as of categories and whatever. unfortunately, africans and that hasn't been, hasn't quoted, she has plenty of good. you the tensions doesn't to but the 2003 and i saw the amount of power. what happens asylums for guns by one and t. 20. yes. what happens? what? what about the food is accounts for the plastic? i know what about security, because why does this including accounts a i think

a lot of people forgotten about the schedule cause is defined by the veto, is that the 5 cause, i guess, is by lice. a point in the whole bubbly or the is in a mess. the whole public, the whole, the whole world of this, you know, or just global instruction. i miss you quoted accounts. it is important. cannot do anything. yeah. for, can you open the thesis? they don't have the means to accept it. they've had all the extra bliss at least more on the ridge which included the accounts have kind of even but, and so we're not seeing much of that. as for with all the businesses that did it and said this is on the date, we have the conference, 2 weeks of all i've had most of our keywords or now guys in the conference and just clear what is the stand ones you want to do that even if it comes to kind of see what i can look even, but it's on obedience and what's going on for them. shift for you have access all over the come to do you. have you talk to either the generals,

the causing this contract and so down at the moment i know i, i don't have enough common ground even to start the conversation. i believe was those guys have given us the should end of the day? will they of i to i hold of it, i hope so. what's the, what's the chance it was one day it would come one day look. but she had ended up in prison. i'd be able to sit all what, but she unnecessary. nobody could touch him. he wasn't prison. so what happened to me, i'm afraid that is not what happens. the african quotes pushing for african solutions and offering african accountability by what happened to that i thought from guinea in central african republic, where the trial i think is important to support the i. c. i o. projected to there was an attempt to replace icy without an applicant court. so i don't think that was the right decision actually. and again, you look at the way that quote was legit you which is which is cannot. it cannot,

but it's cute but is it is yes, i gave one cells and the other 2 for me. exactly. sure. so i, as i said, why is i yeah. is this going to end up really was getting taxi drivers and official men, but the not my courts can do that. why was this special court? it, it just, it city, it just some visits wants to protect themselves from vice and see. and that was a bundle of what to do. i'm sorry about that. so there are no quick fixes for this was done that's going on and it will spread to the region so maybe spread to well west stuff. what has the, what about south? so don, is that next? okay, is it a different institution? so, so that i've come to it, but i think we cannot give up until then. we'll have to deal with it quickly before the fire spits who it was,

all these will continue to hold. what i mean as it is very encouraging to see united states is involved, so you gotta be as involved, both of them factors shows up there. i think i knew and yeah, this involved and yeah, this involved, the cost is invalid. so our messages, yeah. most of those guys would have to be conference in there will be our foundation. i noticed this guys was there and the message to everybody is we need to speak with one voice now or the other voice or do you never can. so this was one voice, and we need to ensure that we would this fire out, we need to buy and any x most of our to the division of death. and we need to attend, be able to look either we have or we're going to go off to you. so you talked earlier about foreign armies being in african countries. i think there are 13 for an armies actually at the moment in various african countries. how healthy do you think it is for africans to, to welcome in rushes musson to the group?

of course, um, 5 minute, for instance, notorious in ukraine and not expanding its footprint and the tops of students that unacceptable. and you'll notice who invited them medical visits in the number of western countries. this being comes to nation, that some african countries have been ambivalent to, in the case of south africa mutual over russia's invasion of ukraine. is this payback for the west for them, for the wrongs of the colonial era is that while i know the rule is the community that templates be flex. gigi lucian, america is usually called for the a a good game in the violation of the silver and t. but why does that kenzie hope you create of your claim?

and many african peoples said, excuse me. what did america do that i was actually against was that lot breach of security. so over the over lots of countries. so why did they condemn both been hectic, but from us towards this, the distribution for what was a little bit media on lice. i think you had mentioned which is what is the new ocean because your money object it to the invasion of that i what is one for us to with is it is usually because any excuse me, you have him to correct that is neutral. really the side effect, the it's kind of gives you boy, i, that is it, is i the collection of rules or those you can me out of the rooms only applies to russia, not us. let's look be hey book this is appropriate. this is the problem. we need to

look at the middle or sometimes and the relies. what can we say and what you do? what happens in libya would then blogs is company. we never put it together, but again, is that acceptable? what do you make? look, i'm not going to be honest and dealing with this stuff. so it looked like the width is the why it on or the mac, nobody side. okay, so, so don't lift, you don't collection of other people and say you look icon them. and i think it is a problem is i'll acceptable for russia to evade euclid. and there's no question, but the samples i'll condemn american. envision of, of that because this is, is equivalence. and we need to remember that, i just hope that people, when you talk about the natural rules, this applies to everybody, you know, exceptionally is what we bring. what do you make of america's charge?

last week that south africa had loaded onto a sanctioned russian fighter? if you make of that child i, i'm really confused exactly as to why the bus that i will just as well. we only have south africa's version. so saying he apologized, he didn't know what was your tell, he didn't apologize in public. oh, i saw a guy who wrote that in bbc website actually that he didn't, i know south africa says he apologize to that but, but then they denied the judge. but when it, when they did denied, the wording was on big us. they said we didn't approve any arms to russia. it wasn't sanctioned or approved by us. i suggest that was something to some place that i paid with would. i'm afraid that self advocate has a number of issues i think and where is easy?

where is the government? uh, i think in see broberg me is losing it's. it's a grip on power effectively as it some somewhere today that is possible. is that the for is that even though that we have of what happens. they cannot admit that because they say ok, this is set up or if he's at with as he's in light, is also terrible of the board strong. i was also a medical group was now a more accurate zone before. uh i mean, drink act. it has a web as of mazda, of a section on the, which is the cam. i wish actually budgeting, growing the world. the managers have been very accurate and they bought it. so i

did adults not, and i don't know what does to. so what happened death, but i notice danger to innovation of governance in south africa was big public about this. right? in the time we have left, we took to learn about what african countries have or haven't done. what do you, what the west to face briefly, what do you want the west to do faster if the i think i think there was need really do we have in a much with that way? look at what is happening here. go with the game. i don't have the problem. all you will be on the this 20. you'll be a lead, an applicant leads us signed and that's out of published in 50. nobody see if, unless everybody see if i think i need support, we need to $100000000.00 budget and then nothing happens. good with but no the, it's nothing done. then we will hold, holding coffee next to the nationalist and the other seeing the guides, even our headset,

the supports nothing. okay. and that was the, the bad behavior tv. but at this job, because then then we'll see if i'm this everybody see if they know that. so what i'm doing gauge now for the same as i know it's after you left for the summit. 60 you africa. so yeah, that's what this you have to confirm. it was good it, but you can see the different bar that's very important. look as after got that. so there's no, judy cover it $2300.00. out of said yes, everyone gentlemen, in america, us and, and bridget also seen the f. $23.00 young dollars off against good. nothing is any money. okay. and now does it say, what is happening when you create has a problem? when greece has a financial problem via the fund, will it bank immediately search it out?

now what's happening in zambia, what's happening instead of the 2 years did the act and you want to close that um and you want them to come down also on the list. it cash. it isn't financially close to a $100000000000.00, a $100000000000.00. again, most living on advocate well with the companies like united pricing and the best pricing and broke it down. you know, a lot of, of shifting and you know that i'm sick, i just want you to act or so with these really the best of the heavy i'm for my friends at the was it is a bit out of when it or them who did have a bit of financial institution because these financial institution, i'm not said of in this house that dominated by wisdom most do know some ideas on the boards. if it's not, there's no voice in the board decision institutions from the guys and supposed to

be the customer to decline. so this of these banks, that's why these banks would focus on greece or focusing on your grid, right? but so the lack of what is to that is why is that what the doesn't know? what is, what does that mean a small even we run out of time. thank you very much of the timing on something. so i give you his tax in the,

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