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is on a website to be found at the w dot com, the at the g 7 summit in japan, leaders have their work cut out for them and securing more weapons to help ukraine push back russia, making the best of a love, hate relationship with china. and for the 1st time, how to best control artificial intelligence before a i controls us for the next 3 days, they'll sit together and they'll try to come to grips with forces that if left unchecked, could worse than our shared humanity or ended altogether. i've heard golf in berlin . this is the day the one of the themes of the g 7 summit will be the unity between the g 7 countries in supporting ukraine,
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dealing with the full scope of challenges that the fee are see present in the endo pacific region will absolutely be on the agenda for they choose to trace our capability or depends capabilities is one of the most important means of maintaining peace and security on the important stuff. and of course the title district. i'm aware of criticism that russia as a bathing effect on venting sanctions in various ways should take what it is action to make sanctions more effective. and you'll see concrete action to further isolate russian weekend it's ability to wage. it's also coming up, a wars kidnapped kids researchers say that thousands of ukrainian children may have been forcibly deported to russia. it is a child. the child's brain is so flexible if you every day feeds via brain of your poison from your propaganda poison. and
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during one month to month, this child will say, oh, rush raise, maybe no bad the when to our viewers watching on cbs in the united states and to all of you around the world. welcome. we begin to day at the table where some of the world's most powerful leaders are bound to come together with some of the world's most powerful problems. for the next 3 days, president's prime ministers and the chancellor from the g subbing group of nations will work their way through one of the toughest agendas ever. and one of the topics making a debut this time around for the 1st time ever, g. 7 leaders will discuss the promises and the risks of artificial intelligence. and you can add a, i do several other all to familiar subjects, rushes invasion of ukraine as well as containing the chinese threat how to end the war and how to prevent another from beginning. the answers include closer ties
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between the us and japan. take unless the jump on us alliance is the cornerstone of peace and stability in the in the pacific region. the jeff on us relationship is not limited to security for these multi lads and strongly in all areas. i welcome the rapid progress in japan and us cooperation. as you said, warehouse phase most complex tomorrow is the reason is secure a much more proud. so i'm joined now by bradley bowman. he's the senior director of the center on the military and political power at the foundation for the defense of democracies in washington, dc. but it's good to have you back on the program, the prime minister of japan. he's instigated
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a radical shift in japanese defense policy in defense spending. how key is his role in what he is calling one of the most complex security environments that we've seen in recent history? i think japan is playing a critical role here for a number of reasons. one is because there are democracy to the size of their economy. 3 that there's such an important ally for the united states and for they speak with great authority on issues related to nic. or weapons. so for those and more reasons, they're a pivotal player here not to mention their geography and the 1st island chain, which is where a lot of the potential aggression from beijing might occur in the coming years. prime minister can she to, is talking to president biden, about further strengthening of deterrence and response capability for, or in the face of chinese assertiveness or aggressiveness. what developments can we expect there to?
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well, you know, they've made announcements about and dramatically increase defense spending. it looks to be a very significant historic departure from their land longstanding policies following world war 2. and i'd say it's a, it's a couldn't come. uh, it's coming just in time because uh, if the united states is going to deter aggression in the taiwan straightened elsewhere from the people's republic of china. i think we're going to need all the help we can get in japan is darn near the top of the list for me. and so i think united states and japan see the global environment in a very similar way, whether it's uh, put in as a unprovoked invasion of ukraine. whether it's the aggression from china and the need to build a more unified and capable military to turn with a sound economic foundation, where we pull out key parts of our supply chains out of china and put them in places where we can be more confident that we'll have access to those resources and supplies and that they will not be compromised in some way. you know, the, the g 7 group of nations. it, it's not a defensive alliance, but i'm wondering,
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do you detect a unity of purpose among these countries as well as the european union, when it comes to russia's war on ukraine when it comes to north korean nuclear threats and when it comes to china? so it's a great question. you're right, you know, the g 7 has no nato, it has no, no pretense to be that. but it is 7 of, of the world's leaves economy 7 democracies. and, and each of them in their own way, has been a victim of what we've seen from china. certainly a lot of the countries. but you and i last time we talked, we're talking about my crohn visit to china and i, i wasn't much of a happy camper on that because i really felt like he was kind of dividing the unity and really putting french parochial at business interest over more important principles and sure enough, according to reports, one of the advisors from a crown was saying the g 7 is not an anti chinese alliance will. of course not, it's not, it's not an alliance. and this isn't about the chinese people. it's about the
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chinese communist party and that's a very important distinction. so you had another sloppy remark coming out of paris . what would you say that those, those comments that were made by macro and the way they reported it has, was that a flash independent that been forgotten? i mean, they're certainly not talking about that in japan right now. yeah, no, i hope, you know, i, i don't mean to bring up all the issues, but you know, i just, some of the recent comments and the lead up to this d 7 seem to suggest. and this is a bit of a more of an enduring approach repairs. and that's unfortunate. i think it's short sighted and we're going to need all the unity we can get among democracy doesn't argue last time because of the formidable nature of the challenge from china. i'm glad to see the you and i'm glad to see our european g 7 partners really taking the china thrust seriously. but you know, i do see some continuing this question us if you will from paris, artificial intelligence. brad is a last minute addition to this g 7 agend. i mean the explosion of a i is captured,
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the world's imagination, and you're just this year alone. it's also called a lot of people off guard. i'm wondering, what do you hear there in washington in terms of a i visa, the defense policies, national security, just maintaining the global order. it's a great question. you know, we've had a, at least a couple of hearings in the last week or so on. capitol hill focused on a i one the judiciary committee, another committee, there's real concern. it's, it's breathtaking and how quickly these technologies are being developed and some people are comparing them to the printing press in terms of their global. they're the regional and global implications. i've been tracking the military connotations for a long time, but there's also a real specific ramifications for democracies when you consider way. i might white mean in the context of campaigns and elections and misinformation and how our adversaries of democracies and freedom might use a i against us. and we can talk about standard operating procedures and good
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practices. but one has to ask themselves as beijing, and i'm also gonna follow them, of course not. so you know that risk erase in the bottom. yeah, we have to maintain the essence of who we are as democratic and free people. let me go back before we run out of time in the back to the situation in the ukraine president bite. and he says that he's looking for, you know, from his g 7 allies. he's looking for what he's cause a strategic the feet of russia and ukraine. what does that actually mean? i can't read his mind. i would assume a means a defeat of the russian invasion, which would mean the departure of russian forces from a country in which they are not welcome and that would include crimea, the problem. and that's probably the only thing that people have. ukraine will accept at this point, but the problem is, i don't see clear path to making that happen. and so there's actually planning underway here in the pen and gone for what could be a years or decades long frozen more, which of course has
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a kremlin specialty. so you know, this, we all like this to in, sooner rather than later putting can ended tomorrow. but i'm not seeing indications that that's going to happen. yeah, i've shades of afghanistan late seventies, early eighties, all over again. it sounds like brad bowman from the foundation for the defense of democracies. brands always good to get your insights. thank you. thank you. of the, the us treasury says that rushes oil revenue have separate a significant decline since the g 7 introduced a price cap on russian crude oil. the g sylvan, along with the european union and australia introduced a price cap of $60.00 a barrel last year. now as a result, the us treasury department says that russian oil revenues have fallen 40 percent year on year. we're revenues used to make up for about a 3rd of the entire russian budget. they now make up about a quarter of the but i want to bring in now as far as the fedex. she's
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an assistant professor of finance at the hospice school, the business of the university of california berkeley. she's also a founding member of the n g o. economists for ukraine, it's good to see you again. good to have you back on the program. i know we talked before about these price caps and there was a lot of skepticism about this and tested oil price cap scheme last year. i mean, has it worked as well as the by the administration claims that have yes, i would definitely say it's bringing results and let's look at the data. right. the price cap on oil was instituted in december. the price gap, i will products follow it in february. and if we take a look at rushes, revenues from energy. those have fallen by 47 percent from the last quarter of 2022 to the 1st quarter of 2023 and so on. that front, the price gap is definitely achieving the goal, cuz the goal of the price capital was to follow it was to reduce rushes revenue.
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well also to keep the oil market stable and we see both of those goals being met. and so the oil prices on the global markets are going down and the discount on russian oil in particular, is also increasing. so russia's revenues are falling from 3 ways because of reduced volumes of oil. so because of reduced global low prices and also because of the steep or discount on russian. i mean, it all sounds good. is the price kept though? is it being enforced as rigorously as it could be? there is definitely room for improvement, especially on the enforcement font. so if we take a look at more granular data, which some of my colleagues have done, i've been looking forward by port when we see some of the ports, especially ports in russia's far east lake and midwife, a stock region. those ports are still shipping out, boiled above the price gap. and of course, those are further away. so it's harder to monitor on the for, um,
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for governments like in europe. but we still see western firms including european firms, ensuring as well as providing shipping services for those shipments. so there's definitely scope for more enforcement of european companies and other g 7 companies to verify that what they are shipping and ensuring is well below the price. right, sure, we know has re routed shipments of oil, natural gas and cold places such as brazil and india. so we know that there are attempts to de dollar rise oil sales on the global market. i mean, is this an issue that the g 7 group can address? so the rerouting itself is not an issue. it's actually a feature rather than a bug at the price caps, right? as i mentioned, the objective here is do we want to reduce rubbish? reference revenues from um, energy, but we also don't want to destabilize the energy market. so the price gap is meant to keep the oil flowing, but at a lower rate. um,
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so reducing the revenue that roughly gets from it. and so it's kind of by design that, that is going to flow to other places and as long as it's going at rates below the price gap and also um, a lot of the infrastructure and brochure if historically has been geared towards the west, especially europe. so having to now ship things as far as for sale is definitely more difficult and more costly for them. so that also organically reduces the revenues that rush end up getting. and what about this dollarization trend? i mean, i guess we can call the trend, but there is this movement to the dollar rise oil sales and does that help russia? i'm honestly, i don't think, i don't think it will. um, if anything actually was some of the movement that we're seeing right with well flowing to those other countries um, within the breast, especially um and also trying to kind of find it to move away from the dollar. if anything, the beneficiaries here are going to be those 3rd countries, right to india, china, which are getting breast as well as cheaper prices in that are also getting
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bargaining power. these are these russia and possibly with these other partners as well. so i don't think it's going to benefit russell that we, we may want to consider how, how much of a benefit those other countries are good. you know, it's a good point and the european union, it's still in ports that some natural gas from russia. but no, we are near the 40 percent that used to enforce the g 7 now wants to consider permanently shutting down rushing gas pipelines to europe. how likely is that to yeah, so this year depends on what kind of pricing we're looking at in the very short front. to be honest, i would say pretty unlikely. first, we still see disagreement within the you because different countries have different exposure to russian energy. historically, i have done differently well, in terms of how well this weaned off so far on. so i think of the very immediate terms, those kinds of proposals are going to get a lot of push that. but if you look at the longer term, i wouldn't rule it out,
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right? i'm the kind of push back that this is getting now is still coming from the same place as the kind of push back we've gotten for the existing measures. and if we look at those measures, the embargo in the you and the partial embargo and the price gap they've done pretty well. and some of those um, catastrophic predictions that some of the policymakers of work and i'm afraid of, they didn't come to pass. the predictions that academic economists have made a, especially, for example, in germany about how mine are when in fact, this leaning off of russian energy will actually have those seem to be holding true thing in the longer term we're moving that way. but of course there's going to get with us. yeah. as always, anastasia at the high school of finance and berkeley. good talk with you. we appreciate your analysis. thank you. thank you. well, wow. the g 7 nations address further steps and sanctioning rush it for the we're in ukraine that more it continues to claim casualties. russian forces watch and other series of aerial attacks on you creating the early hours of thursday. at least one
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person was killed in the southern port. city of odessa, explosions also rocked the capital cheese smoke rises over cuba again in a co escalation, trusting role could stall, get to the gap dues for the 9th time this month. co teacher was messiah's what even that cities across the ukraine overnight, but in a show, if it's improved in defense capabilities, you cream says it shot down all, but one of them. this damage near the kindergarten and the garage was done by falling debris removal. there was a very powerful exposure and then i saw the smoke with them. i find out that the debris fell and the guy just with mine is nearby. i can see the rocket to be nice. yeah. that's the one messiah that got to hit the southern port
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city before that. so a thought of d. c, one person was killed and 2 others injured. the latest escalation comes as the western allies supply increasingly sophisticated weapons to keep ahead of it's hardly at the speed that spring offensive for residents here are designed to life and of war. it is just another the under the option of tax but it's just because it's, we cleaned it up. now the sand will be removed because their centers and their small children here. everything will be clean and fine. so what you think i despite the damage ukraine's improved ad defenses may just be providing a very address. but for residents here, researchers say that thousands of ukrainian children may have been forcibly deported to russia. w's marks it's under,
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has been investigating the disappearance is a reports now on how some children are being re united with their families. this is victoria chrome city of her son was occupied by russian forces for 8 months. during that time, her daughter katia was taken to training. katya was 12 when the war started, a sensitive and creative little girl. she would drawn write poems in fairy tales, and yet she knew what was going on. her mother tells you who will stall. i just wanted for her to have a break from it only for most people from the military men and the military vehicles for me on the bus down to see, you know, in the evening you go to bed and you view russian military machines passing by, by dr. difficult cosca while you're listening fashionable companion and it was especially scared even the shot at the windows system up on the salem. no criminal
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justice. i thought you would get a rest from all this of the camp in the some of the, your post of civil. that's the holiday camp. she said katya to thinking it would be safe. she accepted an invitation from teachers who were under pressure by occupation authorities to move the children. so what can be done to get back here to have disappeared into the russian system. in most cases, there is little hope. there is no system in place and no official cooperation between the ukrainian and russian side. finding the children is the 1st big challenge. victoria had to go from harrison to crimea. usually they would take 4, maybe 5 hours of driving with going directly is no longer a safe option. she had to travel through ukraine. avery in poland, cross into russia line bella roost them through enemy territory,
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about 3000 kilometers in total, each way. back home. victoria arrived on this bus with her daughter katya. there too, of a group of done the journey together. gotcha. did not know her mother was coming for her. i was very happy to have no words to describe it. victoria and other mothers could only do this with the aid of the n g o. save ukraine. they help with the logistics passports, buses, and navigating the borders. it's ross and strategy for children. it's through sci fi, ukrainian children. that's why they know need to be them and torture them. it is a child, a child brain is so flexible. if you, every day kids, via a brain of your poison from your propaganda poison. and
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during one months, 2 months, this child will say, oh, russia is maybe not bad. it's the strategy to date save ukraine has managed to facilitate 96 returns, but they're getting increasingly difficult. each time western countries took another step to help you print against russia. the questionnaire rose, how to avoid provoking putting out to prevention from doing something, even worse than what she already started for thousands of ukrainian families. the russians have already made their worst nightmares come true. as they took the kids, at least 13 people have died and many more are missing in flooding in northern italy and forecast was a warning that more heavy rains may be on the way. it's the worst. floating in italy, in a 100 years huffy has rainfall selling just
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a few days in the amelia ramana region in the north of the country. thousands of people have been evacuated as rescue work has bottled through the night to save those traps by the floods. locals race to clean the mud laden streets before it drives, doing what they come with, what little they have been. we've been cleaning all day. i can take it anymore. residents in one town pick through the damage we need to fix everything that we need to do everything from the beginning. the books on the documents,
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all the clothes are all gone. this the because you have to get out. you have to leave the house on the vehicle, you can see why the heavy rains caused over 20 rivers to best the bunks and almost 300 land slides. stephano bona, tina, the regional president said the cost of the damage totals, billions of euros with the rainfall. cost locals remain worried, is the case. our biggest fear is that if it starts reading again with a home the diagram, if it were to start reading again, we fear that the water could again rise. that's our biggest fear. these make ship roadside probably is the only defense the many against the flooding
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