tv The Face of Anonymous Deutsche Welle May 20, 2023 4:15am-5:00am CEST
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more likes watching it on youtube dw documentary, the so that's a race a day to day today. well, today they're making a movie about my life. i've been called type of terrorist, but i have to laugh right now. i. ready i get what, what is an information terrace, please? i mean, can somebody help me with that? how can i terrorize people would with the truth, the matter x have enough for the that's the beginning of the movement being right there is pretty free or little better. his smart, he is articulate and his words have power that most people's do not. that's dangerous to the power. we like bad guys. he was
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very divisive. some people loved him. some people hated them. he was the distraction at best. i think of times he would type in all caps, you know, anything like he was a guy who, who's commanded attention to the day, one of the most to take the edge. we have surgery and all inspiring and just ran it over the surgery part. it was the mentor x, but this is a war american, straight up. this is a war i think there's like an entertainer in him. i mean, he likes to tell stories, he likes to kind of take you into a whole world and sometimes you don't know how much of that is exaggeration. you have to put a person behind the mass. people want stories. so committed x did make a good story i was talking with my editor at the new york or about doing a larger piece about anonymous. and to me, the story was how has activism moved from the streets to the inner head and then
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back to the streets? that was, i think, fundamentally the story i was telling, and commander x was, it was really the personification of that it was a profile of a contemporary american act of us. i grew up in main like a ranch and main. but you know, he had a difficult life. he had a difficult offering, his father was abusive. my parents were not very good people. i'm just going to ended there, but they were not very good people. and so i spent a lot of time at my grandmother's house, and i had become fascinated with the idea of computers. so i can face this guy a work for my dad. he was a pharmacist assistant to bring into a local university and show me a real computer. so he brought me down to the university and there was a program that was a very basic chat program as a frigging 13 year old kid isn't noticing shit, go start talking back here. you like so you can see that coming into it from that way in that fashion. just the fascination is never been aware of. now. i'm like
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a kid. we can't do. so i'm living by on the science fiction. she gets to cambridge . she was sleeping on park benches. my understanding of it was just because he liked the mobility of it. and i ran across an entire part. i protest. i stopped. i don't know what people i smoke. some pot was given flyers, you know, you make friends or people, they've got a flyer in their hands, you're going to read it. i was so angry that there could be a system of government in our century in my lifetime that you had to go into a police station and put your hand up to a colored shot. and based on how dark or light you were, that's how many rights you got. that is ridiculous. a new account. well, you know, thanks for hanging out with us and you know we're doing this thing tomorrow. the things like the animal liberation front, the earth or abrasion front. i did my tours of duty in both of those and then
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eventually our with or so we were to hack a group that we called the people. so abrasion from the pos we were more of like a little militia. we adopted these titles, called commander. were we all dressed in camel when we would protest one day, my friend sat me down and said look we, we want to have a talk about something active as grew by the name of it on this had hacked the pores of the epilepsy foundation of america and they had placed on the form in the front page, a animated gift. these gifts, she's animated gifts, a stroke draped brightly to stroke very fast. they could take it up, beloved dick, and causing never seed. you're just looking at it for people went to the hospital across the country. and these people were literally harmed by hackers, thousands of miles away. physically wounded. we can't get past these.
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people need to either be brought to justice or at the very least wanted to see what else they're going to do. so i was cash with literally infiltrating and honest i was to go in the higher see, spend as much time as i couldn't make as much contacts, not to get these people busted. this was not some sort of law enforcement thing. i just want to know what these people are up to, you know, so that's how i get into not there was no founder of anonymous from late 2007 on there was some degree of soft power. that in one way or another managed to corral phenomenon, there was no reason to expect us to go on for too long. it is frankly shocking. a matter of fact, it, it worked for as long as it was the brown. i'm a journalist in august and the gentleman additional documents was not valid. i'm not sure if anybody would've fingers one's ability for it has actually done it back in the forehand for trans website. the image boards that have been around since
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children for children 5, the primordial soup religion, ornaments that actually evolved. that was the 1st of all for anonymous. so i don't think you can really understand anonymous without understanding for chance. there were message boards within for chat. it was a forum for people on the internet to talk freely and openly about writing subjects . then there was a board that was just a random for flash b to talk about anything. that's where it became a bit more freeform. and the idea was that your default handle was anonymous. that was the name you were given. that was kind of like this 5 mind of the internet. and so they started to do what they called rates, which was there like, hey, let's do like a little field trip on the internet. something fun and stupid. so they did that. well, one of the famous ones was have a hotel, which was the children's game, which they decided to infiltrate, you know, have all these characters that prose. i think there were some like nazi imagery. it
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was just about shop value and fund, obviously offensive fund. i wonder, you know, what would happen when these people realize what power they have and what greater power they could have if they were to adopt some shared ideology, some shared internet. and that ended up happening everyone knows that anonymous existing depending on how you look at it all the way back to even late. 03. but in reality that was 2 people on a website. you know, the strangest thing happens, you know, in january, oh wait, it becomes this, you know, giant movement that the news is covering and that was partially my fault and definitely an accident. you know, i looked back and i wish i could say, you know, i masterminded this amazing thing on burke. now i have no idea what i was doing. good on january 14th, 2008 on 410. this video is posted of tom cruise being in st. tom cruz, sorry, on color fitness i apologised when you drive past accident,
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it's not like anyone else is driving past. you know, you have to do something because, you know, you're the only one that can really help. and another post come saying the video is gone. and it was like, oh wait, why did, why did that get taken down? that's tom cruise being insane. it's, it's funny we decided that we're really good at docs, and people were really good at getting their information in hunting people down and use some connections to find the person who had the video and we re uploaded it. it was taken offline in like 30 seconds. you just don't do that. you don't take something off the internet. i remember talking to someone about this and they created, feel like a like a playground and somebody took their ball. so we decided we were going to troll scientology by putting out a press release. hello, leaders of scientology. we are none of us. over the years, we have been watching you, your campaigns as most information,
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your suppression of descent, your litigious nature is go to the line between us and uh, on spire and it happens to successfully towards all inspiring. anonymous has therefore decided that your organization should be destroyed. this is ominous, like we're riding like the internet is coming for you get ready. we shall proceed to expel you from the internet and systematically dismantled the church of scientology in its present form. it was about 1020 at night on the 21st of january, 2008. i don't remember my birthday half the time. i don't know why this 16 so well . but then we uploaded this video and i take, if i'm lucky, 2030 people watch this video. find it funny. we are none of us. we are legion. we do not forgive. we do not forget, expect us. i got woken up by my girlfriend at the time. it's like 4 30 in the morning. she's calling me maybe 5 is right around there. and she says, turn on cnn. you have no where to hide, because we are everywhere. and at that point, we're sitting there with a 1000000 views on the video news reaching out,
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trying to get ahold of us scientology paying big money to privatize trying to find us and an army kind of in front of us that are all going by the name anonymous, now they promised an army, they didn't have it, but by virtue of making it clear, making it palpable. people wanted this army of emerge from the internet and right wrong. and so easily, we're like, well the, let's plan a global world wide protest in every, you know, major country on the planet. we're going to be those multiple protest sites, but do it like the internet does it to make it fun. we're sending a non m as outside, so they better remain anonymous. so we're going to need to cover our face. it. the media needs something they can show. that's the ominous thing, right? so we had to give them a mask. it had to be available. so we actually spent the next about 25 hours calling comic shops, costume shops, and literally every single city we tried to call had guy fox messed installed,
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sitting in bassett. no one was buying that they hits discounted because everyone thought after the be from a debt a movie, then a 1000000 of these was sell in london. and really cool. great. the 6 made is the only math we can actually use. everyone wants a romantic version of this story. no, it was because it was the only one that was available in every single town we were going to be and that was all in us. it's sort of created the some mythology of anonymous who is anonymous. what are they? they, where are these mass cnn? and i think that was the time when anonymous was really branded. they happen to be clever enough to organize all these thousands of people's installed as the and so the army was serialized. the army showed up. this is what the internet would look like if it went outside. there were women, there were people of color, every race, there were young and old, there was everyone, and we just weren't expecting them. and that's how phenomena. first became of the size of ports. you have a thing now, what do you do with it?
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it, it only bills for fighting sign, how it, in reality of whole goal was actually just the screw it them for a week. you know, i get this being so off the top and so we accidental every step of it. we didn't expect us to keep going. scientology protested that time was funny as hell. and guess what advisory sold me on them. they really were turned out to be people that were authentic. at that point in the story, there's just one of those cathartic moments that's about to happen for really everybody. and that was the release of the collateral murder video, the
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the, [000:00:00;00] the losing weeks of the release of that was an immediate, a sudden the storm of persecution fired off at which wait, when he wakes up, picked a fight with the us. now the us is fighting back in more ways than one american lawmakers want to see founder drilling assigns. they want to see him try it under the espionage act. and when he makes websites has his own trouble. this is a new news, or paypal has announced it has suspended. wiki leaks is account costing at a vital source of funding. mastercard, visa and pays have agreed to a behind the scenes us embargoed as wiki leeks, whereby they all simultaneously more or less. so the overall process initially
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switches any more immediately there is this visual rage because the website took the k k k or the westboro baptist church and have paypal donation ranks on their site. but then what about what a publishing company like would you weeks just trying to get enough money to pay for their servers? and no, you can me as, as so an arm is just left that day. the data donation portals came down, not a signal coming for you. supporters of the website wiki leaks, launching a sweeping cyber war this way. that's right. it's been called operation payback or also operation of in just ons. and it's basically a loose affiliation of hackers that call themselves anonymous. this time they're turning attention to what they consider to be the enemies of what he needs visa, mastercard. so the big kits they've had so far, this man calls himself commander x and says he's part of a non last for information crashing the sites is command racks for a cause. the process is, is the approval with virtual sit. anybody can do it, you don't have to be a hacker and take out a website. you know, you can download
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a program and figure it out and, and afternoon, these are all various the doors weapons. this would be the equivalent of a rifle. and so now our target has been loaded as we say and, and now i'm is 2 people and hopefully hundreds of maybe thousands of people would download this same software and all of us fire. so it's really about multiplication . this is a weapon. it's designed to be used by an army you have. in essence, julian assigned to us become a cyber messiah and hundreds of followers who are waking up is on the computers. and this is the 1st time you really begin to hear during those 10 days the api i rhetoric was just over the top. you know, these are cyber terrorist. the we're going to shut them down. and of course we're all like, yeah, you yeah. how? so what to protest, get used to it in the midst of them might be living in santa cruz and i had a cabinet in the mountains, but i used to stay in what i was in santa cruz. any paper hotel. there's places to
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sweep outdoors. china cruise doesn't just have homeless people on you have like you mentally ill and you're addicted to cover around santa cruz because there's a lot of drugs here to serve town. but the vast majority of people that they label homeless people are actually just phone inc. people traveling up and down the coast to travel corridor, backpacking camera, living culture that exists, the police always, she bought a protest, cancel a co p scale. we were so anything on the courthouse steps were sweeping in, protests were sweeping, literally would assign. next to us it said i am protesting the suite why? that's why i'm sleeping here. is people sleep and all over the support house. what's going on?
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it's peace. camp 2010 i'm at the start of the santa cruz county board house were homeless after the 7 protesting city ordinances for more than a month while ago shares on hand. so to get a little rest. and i'd be interested in the courtesy of a warrant out for your arrest, right? going back. nobody had any clue that the scraggly guy with a long red beard and everything is like one of the most as far as hackers, online with the names from the ender acts, i decided that i would call this my new friends that i was garnering in the not in this collective and i said, i got a plan. i said i, i think i'm what i want to take down the county website actually, but i want to be super cool about it because like i'm here in this town. so what i'd like to do is do it really ethical hacking style. let's do it at want to sunday
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at noon for 30 minutes and would pronounce. it will tell them the specific time it is going to be down to this no, in the public who know that you just just wait, you know and come back. i just went off, did it shut in the coffee house, and i'm sure you know these attacks. i'm deploying cyber web instead of crew bill. just a de doors to detectives from santa cruz shares walked in and gave everybody a good look over. and that's when i started catching up and get them in a way i make my way to the library. put out the proseries in the library. and then the next morning i get up and the headline is on the same piece paper. i mean a big black letters, santa cruz cyber attack and i knew i knew i just knew it was epic and i knew that my wife would never be the same again. and the other thing i also knew was the anonymous was the most powerful
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force ever to be created in humanity. so far better accessory is and you know, we all know we've all seen his, his version of reality, but he didn't come into my orbit and till people started talking to me about the fact that x that he talks to you on r c. and i'm like, who you just kind of showed up as a guy who was putting up websites under the a non name and you look at it and the website looks like it was built in 1993 like one of the 1st drafts of a website ever got a guy who was helping me telling us he was homeless was building. so i didn't want to just outright say, uh, what did you want to say? okay, guys trying with very limited resources. he would be doing his thing and obviously he was doing video was saying he was getting target. see was i don't think he's doing what harm and i was always kind to him because odd, surprising enough, i am actually nearly a kind person. but a fault that i just said like nice things and times like it's our guys like like go for continued commander. as i understand his story. he was the kind of hippie protest or who showed up and you know what's holding signs and i were and all that
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you know, and that was none of us to, to speak the honest truth. like i'm the 19 year old driving a car who sees a puddle and a bunch of people at a bus stop. it hits the puddle as fast as you can. i. that's me a 19 i'm, i'm not the good guy. so from the very beginning, there was definitely a clash of just personalities because he came at it from a completely different way. we sort of were thrust into being activists very accidentally. and that was just who he thought he was i did not have all access at that point to an office. i was, you know, definitely very strong and very powerful person and had respect even though people like their brown and in great house and stuff like that. and i remember clearly going to bear brown and asking him, what do you think we should do next? i think he responded with just one word. keep an eye in the middle east, frederick's and i did not sit there and plan the adventure box in asia. geez,
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revolution. needed revolution began when uh, through the vendor, into this capital set himself on fire in process of looking for a lease, having taken away his assets for vote, affility pay abroad. that is what starts the initial flag ration. that's what started the, the street uprisings, the rage a provide an enzyme or a catalyst markets, the chemistry or much else. but a catalyst like center of attention for those of the country you were aware of it, to really around to media is, is one of those interesting ones where they invited us. we didn't even come and talk to them. they came and talked to us, you know, at 1st we all didn't think we could help. i mean, honestly, it's strange enough. minex was the 1st one in that channel saying, no, we can actually do this. and we all thought he was insane. i mean, like, who the hell are we? this is a dictator of an african nation to nation. hackers came to us in and on this. and
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in fact they were more or less handed off to me because nobody knew quite what to do with them. but they claimed to have some rather extraordinary access, but needed some assistance on a small country with a small infrastructure. and we have these names and passwords to every thing. you name it, the water supply i, the radio stations, the servers that the pro to this email is on, you know, attack anything. we just have the passwords. here you go. so we were able to prove that these people receiving testing norm is bribes, living like gods, while attorneys at drought and poverty. and so now these people are really just curious, is this right? who are the people who are planning on going to the streets? are they, are they are people, you know, are we helping some extremist or we're going to make it worse? to the extent there is right and wrong, and that one can point to a lot of people and say that one is mostly right. that what is mostly wrong, there was never any question that we were right. and that if, if this was to escalate further, it would be
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a terrible thing for living involved. but i would personally be and do is you ask about that. the, i mean, you look at and you think what could hundreds do, but you'd be surprised at how important it is to keep communication from city to city. we built this west of all the technology. they were lock and we kind of estimating what order they were, try and block them and like easiest, they're going to just get twitter and facebook turned off in the country, right. so we put proxies and fed them to all the people in the major cities as, as soon as the, the start working action, some of this way to meet get activated satellite phones. cuz some of the people of nice weekend it keeps going from there to like 7 layers of communication. so when the internet goes out, then when the cell phones go down, we can keep handing them
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a new way to keep in contact the. this is all unraveling hours, days rate 6 feet by far as we talked about earlier in the par type moving for 10 years. it took 10 days during the decatur identity after teenager were starting to help the egyptians with the same tools. because now we've kinda got a tool kit we're really beginning to define skills specifically applied to these st. revolutions. internet back on the egypt, 3 times the oh my god, we are having teal, political events. we're saying who's going to rule in this world, the lives of people showed up as for our help, turned out it was things we could do. so we did it and then i went back to building uh, some plumbers website the next day. i mean, i think we came out in the early spring,
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pretty convinced we were all gods the, by the time the cities revolution was over time, you get that started the of the r rated 40 us household sort of single day, late january 2011, over of these did us attacks to slow down mastercard, corporate website, and visas, and paid house for a couple seconds on res families being held at gunpoint in some cases. dozens of f . b i. agents targeted a ledge, members of our with search warrants, agents hit 6 homes in new york along with locations across the country. sees a car drives a computer assessment. it's a for the same moment literally the same moment. that's how they do this so that we can't get on like i r c and say hey, do to come in and like you're driving right. and so that's what they did, except there's only got 39 of them for me because one was
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that man visa dot com went offline for a few minutes. did that affect any one's ability to buy anything or give anyone's info away? no, it did not bring their marketing piece where you could download a brochure. it was offline for a few minutes, somehow. $50000000.00 of damage. no, no. when have you as someone who has a visa card ever gone to visa. com, it didn't affect anyone. and it was down for 5 minutes, but they tried to get people you know, to go to prison for it. oh, what did it take a case to get an idea in 2010 the low orbit ion cannon. nature, it's a joke. like the thing says, pew on it, it's a way, it's by nature, it's a joke. and you know, a joke. we'll get to prison in 2010. my name's j leaderman, i'm a criminal defense attorney. i do a lot of under dog work. i do a lot of the stuff that people touch because they're worried it's,
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it's too high or to co invest in a level i sent out a series of tweaks that i would represent some right, just active as busted in my meaning california. so in our general mailbox, the next day there was a message from the set on commander x, and he thought they were looking for, for the potential santa cruz das. consider that offer us access any thought that things were going down very quickly for him. i was in mountain view, california and i had known that they had pretty much struck me in a mountain view. i was seeing the crowd vicks around. i saw the f b i. agents in the library when i was searching for the internet. the overhead me sharon bite wish to designate at all times they must have really, really peered at that at that point to deploy
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a dozen agents rather than just walk over the rest. i'm going back and forth was asked, you know, we had the meeting spot, arrange at that point. i'm still using like some sort of commercial based email. i'm still new and he was using some encrypted form of email for some reason. he said to me, the last email he said to me was like j, i'll see you at 10 o'clock as such and such a coffee. i was looking for parking and i got a call from my office that christopher doyle i was yeah, i called back to number and it was an f b i agent. they were like yeah, hold on. he was talking they got him an hour before i got there. at the place we had arranged to meet the i don't know what their methods are and who knows if they had like some are planted in the little whatever tree x was like, you know, sleeping under, you know, looking at his computer when he's fighting, you know, i can't prove that it was on my end,
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but it sure appears that the the i violated attorney client privilege by having my e mails monitored and were able to pick him up an hour before i arrived at the meeting, they were alleging $6200.00 in damages is just some guy in a library like clicking enter on his computer. come on, man. like what, what's this worth? and then, and then that's what ultimately happened with paypal. it was, you know, be good for 18 months and will dismiss all these course. he could have gotten 15 years so i was doing some bail h mistake category on their part and you had me and you let me go. and so of course i went back to the war for i'd like to stay for the public records . this press conference is being held against the advice x is good,
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a giving attorney's officers for me. i also proof i, i work fine. this document that i am looking for is hacker i f king does have the right to remain silent. he chooses not to exercise it. no, i am not gary smith despite the best efforts of the city because you know, the federal government will not be silent. the f b i is now in possession of 3 of my computers to cellphones and god knows how many external tries they've taken on my electronic safe, forbidding me from using electronics for how am i going to handle this? i can't go back to hacking, but i want to keep fighting and keep them with them and it dawned on me what else can do?
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i'm going to say good bye and i'm not coming back. and i begin my run to the canadian border. as far as i knew, i think he was sort of the 1st fugitives out of this whole movement. i really didn't think he had gone to canada and sure as heck you went to canada. if you want to call me a terrorist, i've got no problem with that. um, but i would ask you who is it that's terrified? and if it's the bad guy standard terrified i'm, i'm really super ok with that. the media for some reason the beloved talking to it about commander x i went to go see him in montreal. whenever you heard interviews with somebody in anonymous, they treated it like you know, you were were some like troll that had run out of the cave and you wrote pixilated
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and all of that. but like he was a guy who kind of looks like an older hippy guy, and that put a face on something that had been faithless to a lot of people. but i think it was in that moment too when he really became even more ostracize within the subculture of anonymous because the one thing you weren't supposed to do was to distinguish yourself really as an individual and for a face on something that's face less a lot of accusations has been, levied at him about what literally is referred to as a more and they're not entirely wrong. i mean, he obviously wanted it, he literally named himself commander his own version of the story. you know, very much says that he came in and was, you know, helping to make things better and is commander x. and then some recent interviews has made some startling claims. just as an anonymous may very well be the most powerful organization on earth. and that the group of 50000 members worldwide have access to every classified database in the us government. people would then be like,
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why did he say that? i mean, that just sounds stupid. talk a little bit more about them. the bulk of i have nothing more to say. what do you want to know? it was getting the people because he was also making the message look bad. like he says this is obviously insane. then another nonsense something that's obviously true, but they're all insane. the something about the city made me feel like it would be a very awesome place for me to take a bit of a break and maybe blend in your saddle here. seems all right. and so i met in jordan when he was just walking down the street. as a recently 10 story teller, this was gold or somebody wants to do it. there was no master plan to do anything
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with it but viscerally. this is the sort of thing that story tell him things on. so vain we ended in fiction. this have to be investigated. so this for several years. was the bedroom of come under x. he slept with these laptop underneath his head. he would wrapped in bubble wrap, particularly during the winter, make it well to type. and then if he would the stubs during the night, at least his laptop was under his head and he'd get up every morning he'd go to the, to the coffee shop. and that's where i think stuff. you know, i told him welfare and misuse of intrigue. he helped me write the books because i didn't have an agent. i didn't have a boy, i didn't have a publisher. he knew what my goals were, which was the finest island. thank you. thank you very much. and then to go to work, i'm sorry to keep you waiting complicated business. donald trump has already made himself a a rabbit enemy of the mexican people in the mexican government where you will build
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a great wall along the southern border. and mexico will pay for the war you can use my was we will never pay for the compet really ratcheted up. that the tension between the 2 countries and when you're working for asylum, this is what you're looking for. it's a political hack. so mexico is working really in play here. the big problem, of course, is 200 feet, right? i've got to go back into the united states of america, the most elaborate, thoughtful anonymous operation that i have ever been a part of kilometers sale to begin this is a southeastern manitoba and out of l. 2. now i will break back into my own
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country. and guess what? this is our 1st camp. united states of america. now, by my own choice on future, wanted get her life. i'm actually taking a cab right out of the street. the grand for the grand forks of catches a great house all the way to el paso all the way to what we call it, the software a to exit note, which is el paso, that's el paso. is the city at our state? my exit out of the people are out here shooting if i don't make it or if i'm killed by bandits or if i'm captured by united states authorities in the last one and a half kilometers to the border. now what you know, i did my best. hopefully i make it
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the, i'm here going to watch, you know, having spent a couple years almost exactly here in mexico. you know, i've moved around a lot. i've met people i've, i've generally try to build a network of friends to help me. most of my friends who are not actually aware of any of the son, please, just the eccentric american 2 isn't going to watch them. nobody knew anything about me. and so i felt that it was incumbent upon me to let them know that, hey,
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actually i got the secret. and my goal is to confront the mexican government surrender to their authority and make my case for asylum. because in this country, i have the right to do so. hopefully you guys can see the stream. ok, i'll turn it back around for me. thank you for turning in this morning. hopefully, like i said, everything will turn oh, okay. i have my legal paper work with me here i am cameras and tow and everything. the questions and emergency refugee status. i don't at this moment, but i also didn't want to so i want to make sure that the most perfect and i believe you make the decision then. yeah, of course. each time we accept the cards for the cards, good decision is most likely. never go home except perhaps in
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a box the michael originally was to keep fighting inducted card. i'm still fighting it. i'm not caught. and i'm this close to victory. and this time in a very permanent final way, you're not going to drive me back and change in the conversation. i'm going to get a side what's that? what is the purpose of the and now being 99 percent? sure that we got our ducks in a row, and the things are in place that need to be in place and i will be, i believe, shortly, surrendering myself to the authority and,
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and in the sanctuary and the safety of the mexican government. i'm happy to report that today the government of mexico did the right thing. officials of v i n m, have accepted my partition material for political asylum and have granted me emergency refugee status. i am the 1st information activist in history to receive political asylum in a foreign country for protest actions taken under the flag of anonymous. yeah, yeah. look at this post sort of consent for him and a fountain. but i sense or, or, but today's headphone and he's in our a bona fide or sales microphone, a 5 human being again. he has a piece of paper from a government with his picture on it, and even for a, an a kiss and a maverick and a rebel,
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such as he that seems to make him feel somewhat ho again. as to him, i'm it is, is that to vision, man, who knows one last short of this beautiful square of san miguel is one day. the city where i won my freedom here in mexico. thank you guys, i'm going to to no, no, thank you guys for watching. and i'll see you all later tonight on a non misplaced back look for that on twitter. i'll be on expect the,
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