[000:00:00;00] the, the eastern ukrainian city of buck mode is in ruins and in russian hands, the 1st major battlefield victory for prudence forces since last summer, somewhat symbolic, definitely not strategic. the front lines, they are being drawn elsewhere. in the past week, we learned that western europe plans to send f 16 fighter jets to ukraine. the u. s . has agreed to train new crating and pilots of our key the strategic stars in this war. they are aligning weapons shipments, have been secured. babble tanks are on the ground and fighter jets soon to be in the sky. i break out the berlin. this is the day

the today and the next truck is going to begin training. ukrainian pilots, 4th generation fighter aircraft including f. 16. i have a flat assurance from the firm zalinski that they will not. they will not use it to go on and move in to russian geographic territory. but wherever russian troops are within ukraine and harriet, there would be able to march also, yesterday he was behind bars and imprisoned journalist in bella, russo who dared to defend tonight. he's a free man. thanks to a presidential. pardon. how did that help? i really want to think of the people who believed in maine and believed in my

sincerity and believe that people can improve and make that mistake. so let's switch on to our viewers watching on cbs in the united states. and to all of you around the world, welcome, we begin the day with fighter jets for you, crane and fighting words from the kremlin. today, rush a warrant against the delivery of f. 16 fighter jets, the ukraine saying the move increases the risk that nato will be pulled into this conflict. now that is one possible consequence, but apparently the possible advantages outweigh any negative. last week, several western european countries signal that they are ready to send ukraine f. 16 fighter jets and over the weekend, you as president bite and said yes to us forces training ukrainian pilots to fly. those plans for months, ukraine's presidential landscape has lobbied leaders and courted capitals for more weapons. especially those fighter jets will. finally,

it's beginning to pay off without any lensky during what turns out to be a highly successful visit to japan. since it started for us as invasion, ukrainian president has had one consistent message for his western allies, more weapons for ukraine. at the g 7 summit in hiroshima, a long held ambition came through overcoming us resistance to supplying ukraine with f. 16 fighter jets with thousands of essex themes in service and dozens of countries. the best outside is seen by keith as the best craft to challenge russian superiority us president joe biden had long resisted keith to month fee of the conflicts spreading the on to cranes, borders. but off the allies such as a u. k and the netherlands pushed for sending. do you estimate jet to crane fight until to lensky?

he had finally dropped his objections. i told the united states together with our allies and partners, going to begin training. ukrainian pilots in 4th generation fighter crack, including f. 16 to strengthen ukraine's air force as part of a long term commitment to ukraine's ability to defend itself. we provided to last year, all that they needed to deal with what they were dealing with at the moment. and that's where the now we're moving in the direction of putting them in a position to be able to be defend themselves in ways beyond what they've had to deal with so far. the one with the u. s. veto gone. ukraine's allies afraid to nate the 16 to keep them all, but it's a lot to knock some yeah, we're working on it to and i'm sure because we already know which countries we will work with that. obviously what's on that, even before we and lots of training programs will be a sixteen's. we will get the planes for now i cannot say how many one of is not the

secrets anymore. i didn't know myself in the secret. it'd be so the filling is not rush asked estimates the impact the 5 digits would have on the battlefield. it's suggested to use would raise the specter of nato involvement in the conflict. but in the past, most gusta threats have failed to prevent the ukraine from upgrading. it's awesome though, or to discuss the of 16 factor in this war, i'm joined by a man who speaks with the voice of experience from inside the cock that john tyson is a retired brigadier general and command pilot the us air force. he also served as assisted deputy under secretary of the air force in charge of international affairs and he joins me to night from washington, dc general tired. it's good to have you on the program. i want to discuss pilot training with you just a moment of it, but 1st you heard of the news for president biden, that the us plans to train ukrainian pilots to fly these f. 16 fighter jets. what's your take on this decision for us?

thanks for having me and my take is that it is about time. these are extremely capable systems. they are western a capable aircraft with western weapons in western supply lines. and i think that these capabilities can ultimately help tip the tide and turn the tide, their new crane, and i think even more importantly, they provide a long term commitment of the west end of america to sustain and support ukraine. not just for the immediate fight, but for decades to come. you know, we've heard that perhaps norway, denmark, the netherlands, belgium, poland, that maybe they will send it there, f sixteens to you create. i think i've seen numbers maybe 30 and total. how significant is this number, visa v vi russian air force? brent, i think whether they get 2430 or 36 aircraft. i think it's significant because i

think these capabilities are important to provide this thing called air superiority . and to enable long range precision precision stripe and the capability support groups on the ground. and again, these are more capable than the aircraft and anything ukraine already has. and i think it's going to be significant to the wherever for the present and bite. and he has been clear that these by the jets are not there to strike targets inside rushes. take a listen to what he said. i have a flat assurance from the farm zalinski that they will not. they will not use it to go on and move into russian geographic territory. but wherever russian troops are within ukraine and the area they would be able to do that. all right, so we're going to have to take the, the ukrainians, president zalinski. they are on his word, but over ukrainian territory itself. can western jessica and they give you crane

dominance of their own aerospace, the bread. first of all, we've got to realize that the systems and these capabilities aren't going to arrive overnight. and i think it best case they could be there in october long after this counter offensive that we're waiting on is done. but i do think over the course of time by providing ukraine, the freedom to attack as they desire from the air and freedom from attack for rushing and capabilities through the air. and then that long range precision strike capability and the close air support the troops on the ground. i think that this could turn the tide for the ukrainians over the long term in this war. and it just talking about the capabilities of the 16 mean. we know that for example, and keep the capital city, they have an air defense system that's been repelling airstrikes from russia. the f sixteens would also be able to intercept missiles, correct?

so to some extent, yeah, certainly aircraft in some missiles, but you don't just rely on one system to provide yourself air defense. you do something that's called layer defense. and so you do have those patriots systems and some other air defense systems that are ground based. but you could absolutely supplement those systems by having f sixteens as airborne capability to defeat russian aircraft and russian us missiles, especially cruise missiles through the air. okay. in general, do you remember the experience? talk to me about how you learn to fly and up succeed. i mean, how long did it take you in an ideal situation, obviously when you're not in the middle of a war, but how long did it take you to earn your we the bread. that's a great question. normally you take these newly commissioned officers and it takes them about 13 months to become basic pilots. and then they go on to whatever their aircraft is going to be, and it takes them another 6 months to get basic qualified. and then it takes

another 3 months or so to get combat qualified. so all said and done, that's about 2 years. but we're not just starting with ukrainian pilots that have never flown before. these are experienced highly combat experienced pilots from ukraine. and even in just the trial that we ran in the united states and an f. 16 simulator over the last few months, these experiential premium pilots were able to become combat capable in an f 16 in less than 4 months. wow. so wow. it may be the case that it takes longer than that for a green pilot. these are extremely experience pilots, and i believe they'll learn much faster than that. well, okay. yeah. well, that could be like, maybe by the end of the summer, then we could have them slide. i want to talk about the reaction from russia. russia is accusing the west of escalating this conflict, rushes ambassador to the us, and i totally, and turned off, posted this on telegram today. when i read this for our viewers,

it says there is no infrastructure for the operation of the f. 16 in ukraine and the need a number of pilots and maintenance personnel is not there either. what will happen if the american fighters take off from nato airfields controlled by 4 in volunteers? a so so brent. yeah, and yeah, i think the basis for that question is that the russians are trying to deter us from providing these capabilities to the ukrainians. but just like any of these other systems we've provided to them the everyone's tanks or the leopard tanks or the patriot air defense systems. it isn't just the system and the operator that's important. but it's just the sustainability of those capabilities, the maintainers that allow those capabilities to work day in and day out. and we will help them create that type of a system for the sixteens. and they have amazed us with their ability to sustain capabilities. i do think that launching out of nato airfields is brought with risk

because it could be seen absolutely as an attack by neither one rush or russian forces. but i don't think the ukrainians are going to need to use that. they're going to learn how to sustain and maintain these capabilities within ukraine very easily because they've demonstrated that in the past. let me just ask you to before we run out of time, but you know, we've got the band will change on the ground that are coming from western europe in the us. and now we're talking about f. 16 fighter jets. is this going to be a tipping point that's, that's going to allow ukraine to wind to end this more sooner rather than later. i the bread. we would all hope that that would be the case to stop this russian war of aggression. but we know that it's going to take maybe until the end of the summer into the fall before they get some of these capabilities and are able to use them. but i think it's significant in 2 different ways. number one is significant because it is demonstrating this long term commitment of the west to support

ukraine beyond the counter offensive. and i think it ties them into the western way of war for 2 to 3 decades in a way that no other system would do. and i think that is significant in our long term commitment to them to integrate in or operate with them. and then i think from an operational standpoint, providing that air superiority and providing some additional long range. precision strike capability could be significant, are some, and are some of those hinge elements that ukraine needs in order to win this war against russia. ok, we're general. we appreciate your analysis tonight. i should say nearly retired brigadier general john tyson and not you look very young. it's a bit of a long time. retired generals. good, haven't you on the show tonight. thank you. thank you, brad. appreciate it. i the bellows now where an opposition active this has received a presidential pardon, just weeks after he was sentenced to 8 years in

a penal colony. romano parts of it was convicted for allegedly organizing unrest and plotting to seize power of the charges related to his telegram channel, which was used to mobilize protests against president alexander the shanker, back in 2020. but as a bitch was arrested a year later in spectacular fashion and triggering a massive international incident. now he was flying with his girlfriend from grief . still that the way the when bill of racing authorities ordered his flight to land in minutes. the official reason given was a bomb threat, but no explosives were ever found. western countries condemned the flight diversion, which was made under fighter jet score. they called it said it was panama mountain to hijacking, and they slapped sanctions on. beller root says a reaction where after his arrest photos of it,

she made several appearances on state television apologizing and professing his guilt. critics claimed that the statements were made under duress, other opposition activists say that he betrayed the cause. here's what you said earlier today speaking after his very unexpected presidential part. first of all, i want to personally think president lucas shame. okay. because this is his decision. so of course, i want to thank the country as a whole team, and i really want to think of the people who believed in me believed in my sincerity. and believe that people can improve and make that mistake. so let's switch as well for more context on this story. now i want to bring in hand of a cobra. she's the bill of lucy and journalist and it's good to see you again in a presidential, pardon a former active. this is obviously thankful and apologetic of what, how do you explain this?

obviously he was, he didn't want to do anything to get himself thrown back in prison. i guess when he made that video today. yeah. i mean, imagine your being kept as a hostage of the plane was 1st down to arrest you. of course he feels threatened. he feel scared and he tries to save his life. so i think it's really wrong to josh him at this point. but that seems that his name is sending a message to 1st of all, he, there seems opponents. so those people who sort of against, of course. so the question kind of gets, there's seem to show that, well, if you admit mistakes, that's something that those sort of mindset that's i think is go show. if you have to make mistakes, then you can be piped. and that's also signal to people who are inside the country hor, i'm sorry to, to, to know what the support of the democratic forces or their gene that's local. shameka has mercy,

that he's able to show mercy this also signal to people inside the system. because if from on what really spend this 8 years in prison, then of course nobody inside the system will be much of age. it's a to calibrate. so there's a many more and i think that's also a signal to the international community that will look increase capable of having dialogue of you know, reason opponents to show mercy to the one for the savings and others. so you're saying that possibly look, jenko is using robot. here as an example is making an example out of them. a positive example of, of what can happen to mercy that can happen if you do as we say i was, that's only one example. i think carolina has a very unique case because here because, you know, the whole plane was, was 1st down in the original, especially example of amman authors. right?

nobody really had this search just to reach a case. so of course, uh there was, you know, kind of both of any other people showing a, you know, so much sort of, um that they would calibrate, that there seems that they would test. so that will appeal story that they would have made mistakes and so on. so romano is being used by the machine just show to the world that's uh well the reason one person please the feel sorry for what the they did. yeah. it's a, it's a big point. you know, last week you and i spoke. there were rumors about lucas shank has helped me. he had missed a several key public events and you and i discussed that even on the opposition, political opposition was preparing for a possible change at the top in some form of do you think that those questions that were said public last week about lucas? she goes authority about him being

a lap dog vladimir putin. do you think they had anything to do with this presidential part? yeah, i think it's so very much come that says, you know, look, wishing has this been policy that he wants people to feel sorry that he wants people to come to him. and he's so on the nice, you know, to ask for a part and he has always done this weekend before. we publish a go for months with the political prisoners before. and even though we have more than $1500.00 political prisoners in the country, right on purpose for the savings, just just one of many of those who are in jail and this part of them is nothing really for, you know, for the scale stayed there and board, so refreshing that exist, but it was in, yeah, i mean, this is kind of something that lucas shanker wants to show that she isn't controlled because there is much, much to show else, right? because she lost the southern and seen many of the spheres like ministry,

sierra you, for the 1st informations here and so on, in the economy, especially. right. and he's struggling to moscow in just a few days. so i think this is again, something that helps the shameka to feels in control. what has there been, i mean, do you, can you confirm? is there been any reaction from opposition? a circle? is it? i'm thinking of course, specifically of so atlanta t how know sky you for a 2 to a month, but the suv it should say, oh yes, i think there is a lot of um well 1st of all, mine was part of uh, he's a bluebird. she is a problem in journalist. he was very well known. right. so of course everybody's talking about this. i think here's some information about political opponents that he likes to, to the regime because he had to collaborate with them. of course, upset me. and there is some sort of negative reactions to this and of course,

so his girlfriend is from a girlfriend. he's in jail and i think many people asking what is happening with her. so i think this is very important and not the issue said exactly today. there is a trial that that has been started against the not the political opponent at block rebecca, who's the son of very prominent political arrival. victor rebecca, who was one of the most prominent opponents of location convention 20 in exactly today. there was you wanted to reveal information about the savings, so it's very much been cited and i think everybody put, attend, uh they did a lot of attention to that to the screen, to them and that, so there she wanted to sort of hide the issue one political prisoner being on trial . a plan for getting this information both month to month for the city. yeah, yeah. using one man to smoke screen. i know that it's a very astute observation. journalist, hannah typical,

but we appreciate your reporting tonight and giving us excellent context here. thank you. thank you. i do study warren's if we failed to do more to mitigate climate change now or whether the 5th, if you man, is he will live in regions with dangerously fine temperatures by the year. 2100. the research coordinated by the university of extra during the u. k. highlights the risk of failing to tackle the climate emergency low and non to her family are sheltering from extreme heat. temperatures outside solar above 40 degrees celsius. they've taken to setting still just to survive. today and then maybe that's why we got that up. i went outside last week and when i came back i was sick. i'm still

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what we find is that fossil fuel infrastructure is still gigantic. i mean the, it's the bytes, it's the electrons doing goods. this infrastructure is so big, but they're also locked into it and it's very difficult to get out of it. so in some ways, the fossil fuel companies feel that they have never made so much profit as they do currently. and many of them don't yet feel the pain of liability. so it's, it's stopping people are holding them to account in court. i'm trying to put pressure on them, but we also notice that they are not yet accounting for this possible change in the atmosphere around them. and the fact that many young people do not want to book football. so do companies that is something that will probably be affect them, but of course i am hoping that we can collectively put pressure on these fossil fuel companies, bought multi nationals, but also national oil companies, which are perhaps further away from the public. the view of do it,

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