true conservation for only green washing. after all, there are billions to be made. our to push document tree deep sea greed starts to date on d, w. the business dw news line from violating the lead of the bunk, the most regrouping ukraine says he's in control of the ruined city of past most to the regular russian army ukraine. however, incense the city hasn't full of it. also on the program, as it by john zabeda says that's a real chance of a peace deal with the media to end the decades long disappears over the break away

region of nicole. and i'm kind of by the police in south africa, or ask one of the most wanted suspects in the for one ven, genocide after molten 2 decades on the run the, i'm feel okay. welcome to the program rushes most and re wagner. groups as it has started to withdraw from the training. so if your passport handing over its positions to the russian military on saturday, involved the messengers played full control of the east and your training and safety. and once being the longest, baffled but can't deny. so said his folder from the lead that he's getting for gordon says he's troop withdrawal will be completed by the 1st of june. and his forces will consider every ton to backwards. if the regular army account manager, the other, both of them also as an expert on the russian security policy from king's college

london as to how the withdrawal of wagner forces from buckboard was likely to influence the next phase of the war. when i think we should think too much attention towards happening in the move to i think that's what was interesting that we observed in the last 2 weeks were side. although the russian forces especially are still headed by 5. now we're able to basically take most of the, obviously to center the ukrainians. that's what we're able to try. bronze more on the sides of the north. on the south, i'm to sort of open up lines of communication which were really very important. i think what we need to look at now is where the russians are going to be able to sort of try to break these lines or grant and control them. especially the ones that lead or no way storm sylvia on some kind of my thoughts. further to the south west was consenting of com. so i think that's where we really need to put our focus is we are thinking about piece area. on the other hand, you know,

the partner force as being the most sort of fucking hawkins. that's not started out of men, but you know, students being the ones that have been able to, we have on seeing the cities that were asked them or convention and forces are on the rushing or full size of the ones that they've seen are bouncing more on the site so it's going to be interesting to see if not we'll ukrainians are going i'd be happy to sort of kind of reality of how to fancy things too. right. so it's, it's something back. yes. sorry, please continue. now go ahead. go ahead. all right, that as it was just that i was just gonna move out. may so it, it's clear, but that bottle is as far from over and you mentioned the casualties that the fog, the group has stuff and something like 20000 fights is dying in backboard have those losses and protected fights for the states. and the reason i'm not strengthened or a weakened, you've got a precautions position as it's difficult to say because, you know,

from his perspective, apparently it's from sort of, uh, you know, what they're hearing from social media. you know, he has gained a lot of follow up because you seem effective, right? try again and grown and this is the sort of the most significant source. so call you conquest of brush, right. and the last several miles. so of course that gives him some kind of credit . the late fee on, on, and support. i'm on, you know, i'm on military blogger, as i'm those who are in favor of a sort of hiring loan. i'm much more blue to come to find to see if those reporting for food, my realization. sorry offense here. those are the calling from the insurance for marcia. know those are like more on the extreme side. but i think internally, it's going to be difficult to argue that are, you know, is that resides with this information which has been going on for quite some time. you know, he's now i'm very relevant may or, or a domain on caring in russian politics. i think that the, i think it's my opinion that although he's certainly very sore and show, you know,

probably a president unfortunately study very much and come on and the security structure near 5th be the minister of defense. the on for says a or respond to his line of come on on board was very interesting as we upset was that they mean it still keeps sense and they may be true or not really giving. i bought them not to negotiate that necessary weapon way that is actually being not an issue that he was requesting. so i think that there was maybe also intended to sort of weekend him for me. it took me, but of course the noise russia faces a significant safe branch on the, on the back and see, you know, that could create a situation where important is, i know it's more weakened on people that keyboarding become more readily from hard . i think that the stage to but it's not really a one time hold on to you. thank you so much for that so much for the soccer. most of from kings come into the tank. one of the leaders of media and as a by john have clashed during a summer's in moscow despite the signs of

a full and relations. an argument between the 2 men not to be broken up by russian president vladimir putin. it will have fighting about some road linking on maintenance of is supposed to be to the disputed maintenance in the corner of kyra back, which is inside as the body shop. the advisor on the president at 6 will that the 2 sides work close to a great deal that could any decades of fighting over the. okay. so please lawrence pro, as an associate fellow at chatham house is in russia and duration program. asked him what he expected from this the latest attempt to piece as well. uh, indeed it has been decades that this content has been going on. that has been the errors in the past. when we saw that the negotiations began to come to a favorable outcome. we seem to be in that position again today. um, but i think they're on the set and kind of the key factors that make it more likely this time. and they go by senior on the, i mean you, the prime minister has been making very clear signals that's on media is,

is ready to recognize the terminal territory integrity of as a, by john. and the effectively means the end of the road for media is suppose of the separation of number one and car from as a by john there also, i think a critical mass of the issues on which the into the state level on the new and as a by john, are ready to move forward issues such as the limitation of borders and resulting humanitarian issues left over from the 2020 war. but the problem remains, and there's always been the key problem is these the rights and security of the, on the union population in the morning carbon. so you know, pushing the ons, the willingness to recognize as a, by john's territory. integrity isn't unconditional, and he needs to see sure and says that as a by john will, will guarantee those rights. russia has a famous stabilizing or a disruptive force in this conflict. i

think the key to understanding rushes role is that russia has been key beneficiary of on media and as a, by johnny guns hand isn't the conflict between the 2 countries has been the greatest single source of leverage for russia over as the by john and especially a media now russia is obviously also the breakup of the ceasefire agreement, and i think it very much sees the european american role in mediation. this conflict doesn't stretch to its traditional role as the broker, the policies have been leasing today in moscow. they have, i think, signed some documents rusher is very keen to a search is monopoly over the piece towards. but if i need to back who know years and really wants to have a russian broken piece, stacy, that is the extension of russian influence and has you have any inside courses

because that there are, there are lots of people with their fingers in this particular boiling pot and also mentioned that the a you to in the us and tuck is increasing. influence in that region is quite interesting. yes, i think so i came hides a very important role in supporting as a by john and the 2020 goal. and so the key is also a key advocate of the middle car adult, this transit rule linking china to markets in europe. and this has become especially relevant in the context of the ukraine, more on the, on liability of the northern colorado passing through russia's territory. so turnkey codes play unimportant stabilizing role, but again, it is also kind of involved and contradictory ways choking on media. don't have to provide relations. so i think, you know, another aspect. another piece of this puzzle is when the tech, you know, media and kind of open that border and open up the region to,

to trade into soft power rather than the securities ation of the region which we see under russia. prospect in front of clear. thank you for that. so lawrence, the bro, as the from child sometimes time is what gets the most doors making the news around the world. russia and bella roost have signed to deal a lot in russia to store tactical nuclear weapons on television. territory. control of the weapons will remain with moscow. this is the 1st time russian warheads will be stationed outside its florida. since the fall of the soviet union, the cars crushed into the gates of downing street in central london weather u. k. prime minister's office and the official residence of police arrested a mind at the scene, briefly closed off the area around the gates. that being no injuries, and it's not treated when the crash was deliberate, the fires restored governor of the state of florida run desanto stopped long since pennsylvania and republican nomination to become president of the united states

through interlaced his campaign video online and officially launched his bid on twitter, 100 with tech building even mosque in a session that was ruined by technical difficulties done. we chose faxed over the amount of cues of ordering the depths of mold in 2000 people joined the rwandan genocide has been arrested in south africa. full jim said cachimba has been on the run, had been on the run for more than 20 years, but it was detained by and the lead south african police units on wednesday as a great farm where he'd been living under a false name. it's the last, the former police chief played a leading role in the matter of tootsie refugees taking refuge in a church in 1994. let's get more on this and privilege was fun here in cape town. welcome privilege. i'm so tell us more about the charges that facing this month. for dance kind of share. my is facing charges all. fuck kidding. more than

2000 women and children and the elderly, you know, in a church in um, april of 1994 in one of the counties in one that we use save to we had or that the killing of these people. and yet you actually participated in procuring patrol and fuel that was used to bend down the church in 2001 he was then into indicted by the former. um uh, united admissions, international cleaning outside, you know, full one day. uh and he has been on the run since then. um. now, he has been apprehensive. um, why did it take more than 20 years to find it? it is saying that over this 20 years he has been changing identity and living

in different off again countries. some of the countries that are suspected of the kingdom of this. what do you me most i'm being and now so that's the go ways was now i rested. he has been living under false identity even when he was arrested yesterday. he did, he was you before he admitted that he was using a false identity. you as a refusing that is the one so you can so last week as well. it is then said by the u. n. agents. so that's has been instrumental in thinking him down. there was a bit of some mist corporation this i'll have to get, although it is with not cooperating over the years in terms of apprehending him. but then i was present from a post. i had to sit up as special purpose, ill publish, and team that's cooperated with the you in engines to comprehend the met. so then

folders, kyesha and that has been arrested in south africa for crimes committed in rwanda. what happens next from one to leave here is that sir? uh, tomorrow heres june. uh friday his june to appear in quotes in the cape town. my just did the quote uh for his 1st i pre appearance and then after then the decision will be taken to extradite him. you'll be lost. probably. you may be expedited to i. rochelle, in terms of the o, taken to the head, where one of the suspects was interested in a 2020 in perry's is e is now out of the 5. that's a being side of, of the thoughts after they add 3 more. those us to being sought after by the u. n. agents tiger that dw correspondence privilege, most of them here in cape town,

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