to register now for the d. w global media on 2023 in germany and online the increasingly fragmented world with a growing number of voices digital. the amplified where disclosure can lead, we really need overcoming divisions and a vision for tomorrow's journalism. register now and join us for this discussion. the 16th edition of d w's global media forum. a bus routes reduced to rubble. over the past 9 months, the former salt mining town was turned into a battlefield one that's all the bloodiest infantry fighting since world war 2 and russia's brutal assaults on the eastern ukrainian city. it was wagner mercenaries who took the lead. now, the head of the private army says,

his work there is done. the battle is one on the transfer of the city to russia's. regular forces has begun, but ukraine claims their defences are holding on and the pockets of resistance still persist. nicole for lucian, berlin, and this is the day the origin for the city we are withdrawing. units from back. move is now 5 am on may 25th. why are we have to strike day and night to try to pierce the russian defense door? your why your, if the russian military has difficulties. and of course, those who played a major role in capturing development. we remain here in bucks a month with a truck was the one that they destroyed, but they haven't taken it. also

on the day, the republican rates for us president randa sanchez underwhelmed with a glitchy campaign launch on twitter. can the new florida man succeeds by stoking the culture wars? and in florida we say we're the state where work goes to die. you know, as president, i'm going to make sure woke ideology, ends up in the dustbin of history, to our viewers around the world. welcome to the show. a city in ruins. thousands of fighters kills now. russia's wagner and mercenary group claims. the bible for buff note is for, at least for that the head of the private army says his troops are withdrawn from the ukrainian city and handing over their positions to the russian military. wagner mercenaries claim full control of the eastern ukrainian city on saturday. and what has been the longest battle of the war? keep to nice. the city as phone brushes,

masonry group. wagner say it's working, but mood is done. the city has been decimated by the longest running and bloody a special in rushes war and ukraine. 5 minutes later you have gaining precaution, says he's vices will leave by june 1st today and by the, the way, transferring positions, ammunition to the military, everything including military rations nor yes, or what if the military are in a tough situation. of course, we're leaving those who played a crucial part in capturing back much rock was your baltimore. the cave has confirmed that wagner flies is a handing over the positions in the cities outskirts to russian troops. but they set the messen regroup, remains in the city center on saturday for goes and claimed full control of black moods. ukrainian troops deny this. they say they're still holding ground in the

city, south west. and some of us we have to strike day and night to try to pass the russian defences in the north of back motes. the nearby suffices. that mode has lasted 9 months of precaution, says $20000.00 wagner. troops have been killed. but that figure may be much higher . this is not the 1st time wagner is millionaire or not, has threatened to pull out of the city. and he has frequently accused russians, military leaders of incompetence, provisions of power and success in black moods now enhances his pow wow. both as an ally of russian presidents, letting me a person and as a leader in the ongoing war. the west response to russia's invasion of ukraine is focused on new weapons and training for ukraine in forces, securing ammunition supplies, and punitive sanctions. there seems to be a consensus. the current climate does not allow and negotiated and to the finding

results president losing the silvo backs to differ. he's pushing for peace talks and has proposed to act as a mediator himself. he brought that message to the g 7 summit in japan last weekend, and hope to convey it to ukraine's president will let him raise the landscape in person, but the landscape doesn't turn off to a schedule. meeting later said he was upset about the training and leaders, a parent, this interest and results possession, sleep a few view. it is only possible to discuss peace when the. when's the lensky and prudes and wants to discuss pace web to see if it is not possible to build a proposal during war? time will keep life cable. we won't use for the war to stop 1st part of the text to stop you both. and we will use dialogue to funds negotiated way out for ukraine and for russia by to cody, by the host. how are we can now bring and all of us struggle. he's a political analyst and professor at the school of international relations in south

paula and with their struggle. welcome back to the w. now i want to ask you right away, is the west under estimating louis capacity to mediate as well. brazil certainly believes it does because i think those are often overlooked the lease in brazil that the country has a unique contribution to make to the global conversation. but in general, i would say that due to the time, somewhat controversial commons made by results president, particularly arguing that ukraine is as much to blame for the war as russia. it seems to me that neither ukraine nor the west would accept brazil at this stage as a legitimate or controversial, but also contradictory at times. can you explain what results stance on ukraine really is. ok. well brazil would like to be neutral and non line, but the question is, what does that actually mean in the case of the war in ukraine?

i mean what, brazil, as trying to do is to preserve ties to both sides. after all, russia is an important provider of fertilizers to brazil, which is hugely important to its audrey business. in addition, there is quite a profound anti americanism, also in parts of the governing coalition. in brazil, whether it's frequent uh, criticism of sort of western hyper courtesy, etc. people asking why the whole world needs store, impose things against russia while in other cases of violations of uh, sovereignty of other countries, the same reaction hasn't taken place. so, you know, so i think that the, the attempt has been made to, to kind of project brazil as impartial, but in the, in particularly considering that uh for a rush just for administer love roof. it has recently been to buzz india and he hasn't been criticized that he was actually quite at ease. i think the overall

perception is the result position is somewhat closer to russia than it is to that of ukraine. that result does to be fair, have a fairly strong track record when it comes to diplomacy. this one is that you'll agree with me on that one a tough not to crack. what with little as approach to put in and this conflict be as well a little as certainly, as i said, prioritizes this, which is a somewhat of a surprise because, i mean, there's lots of challenges in latin america as well on wednesday, little organize a regional summit, with south american presidents, lots of trouble are here, domestic problems in, in, in, in peru and ecuador for phone prices in been as well, a refugee crisis in central america. so there's lots of issues that result could actually engage on. but i think there's a bit of a sense that lula and his diplomatic advisor uh,

so moving preferred to engage on the global stage rather than the regional stage. and now i think we'll have to wait and see a bit, a lot will depend on domestic stability in brazil because unless looking the sort of rely on a stable political situation at home, he won't have that much time to continue engaging. because if you really want to mediate that may involve shuttle diplomacy, brazil is quite far from russia and ukraine. so that may involve the president frequently visiting moscow and in cuba of so. busy i think it probably won't be brazil alone, and that's why i think the president has emphasized the need to engage a larger amount of countries like turkey, perhaps, or india. so i think that will be a bit the idea. busy but there is an acknowledgment on the part of brazil that this will be a long term process and not something that can be sold very quickly. yeah, i want to get back to something you mentioned earlier. this double standard as it is perceived in brazil. how much does this view echo,

that of other countries in the global south, you know, other countries that might be feeling patronized by the us and its allies. or i think the results position is uh, not particularly unique in the global south. in fact, i think it is pretty much align with much of a lot america or africa where there is a sense of that. so, you know, part of the, the part of the negative consequences are actually due to the western sanctions rather than the war itself. and where some people ask, you know, why did nobody impose sanctions against the united states when they invaded iraq and 2003 and all these kinds of conversations? i think a quite prevalent and in that sense, i think it does also show that zelinski is message hasn't resonated in the global south as well as it does in europe and united states. and part of the reason is that the ukraine of diplomacy is very limited when it comes to manpower. yeah.

where, while, you know, russian diploma is quite present the roof, you embassies of ukraine in the global south. we'll have to leave it there. otherwise, think of the school of international relations and sell. paula, thank you so much for your time. thank you. after much anticipation, randa santos announced his presidential bid on wednesday, and it felt a bit like a zoomed call at the beginning of the pandemic glitches crashes muted legs the sand . as twitter campaign launched at all, it was a rocky star to what is likely to be an uphill battle for the florida governor, even though the santa is crumbs strongest challenge or for the republican nomination is trailing the former president and the polls by 30 percent in writing this jeffrey flyers, restoring sanity to our society. this is the smith campaign that wrong desantis wants people to see. i'm ron de santis and i'm running for president to lead our

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identity on sexual orientation in schools in florida. that's meant to use president to page has already prevent protests, including in miami. we did this mine who is defense is his biggest hurdle to securing the republican candidacy. a oh show the former us president donald trump. miami still has doubled with the support of defenses on the plane, and while they used to be allies, that's certainly not now will never have an income tax. ok, so remember this is rhonda psych there's to do. i have a of the sectors. the sanctimony is to say, $46.00 governor. it will now be up to the florida governor to convince the republicans that he's the man they can rely on to win the white house. duties of

governor w as washington correspondent mikaela group now has more. am mckayla sanders took a gamble on twitter and ilan mosque and, and doesn't seem to have worked out what's been the reaction or rather the fall out or well, it didn't work out for one desantis but doesn't mean that didn't work out for you don't last because everybody is talking about it and you know, knock was very quick to invite other presidential hopefuls to come on to twitter as well and him talking to them. so and run desantis though in what was billed as an unscripted interview. basically suggesting that other interviews are generally scripted, which simply isn't true, certainly isn't for though it's developed and he actually needs a bit of script thing. he comes off pretty well in those a promo videos of but he's not seen as someone who's protecting possible. so instead of him being able to have a ground speeds or block ground declaration, he opted for audio only at that simply backfired technically suddenly on him. and we had a lot of rhetoric we've had before in his speeches. this didn't work out for him,

toward drawing ridicule from relate across the board, he in dc and across the country with a great expectation that he will make good on this when he goes in towards those early primary states beginning over the next week. i think that's what we will then look back at as his real declaration of what he actually aims to take into this campaign. rather than just being the one who sounds trump past won't use the words trump and except from basically stating that he can out trump, trump, and know in as many words has those policies that could well back fire on him for the key when it comes to the whole boston question, when it comes to fire arms, these are no issues that he can with the school with in terms of popularity across the country, although he may well do in florida. yeah. and let's talk about our trump thing. trump, because the sanders has obviously taken many less the street out of the trump playbook

. he's never actually been up against the former president, though to think he can beat trump at his own game. it doesn't look like it when you see both in front of a crowd and run desantis, something doesn't cut it, but there are 2 important factors. first of all, donald trump may get we cut, although he's way ahead in the polls, but he does face another, an open legal issue still that gets grunted. that's and special investigation into january 6. that still isn't result. we may see him in the quote once again of a hoss money payments early next year, and that's already for show. so he may be able to gain some ground that we saw in the gubernatorial race. went on desantis, one, him lining up more than $200000000.00. and we know that a lot of big money is going to get lined up against donald trump in the republican camp. and they will be looking out for the most likely kind to get there regardless of what other quotes things he has or he was there see. but there is no see at this

moment in time. that still is wrong. desantis with everybody else in the single digits when it comes to pulling monks republicans so that he can pull the cash in on. in other developments today, one of the ring leaders of the january 6th attack on the capital was sentenced to 18 years in prison. of capers founder steward roads was convicted of seditious conspiracy. after being found guilty of orchestrating a violent plot to overturn the 2020 election and keep donald trump in power. road sentence is the longest handed down so far among hundreds of january 6 cases. mikaela, how significant is this and how much of it could rub off on donald trump? it is very significant also another member of that group cutting next was a sentence to 12 years in prison and the student rhodes actually didn't physically do anything. and that's also what's his defense to his team said. it was only was they said that led to this sentence,

and they will certainly be challenging this in port. and, but at the same time, it shows that there was somebody who actually was in vermont bands who was described by the judge is still being a danger to democracy in the united states. so that is very significant indeed, particularly if a line can be drawn to donald trump, he who may still face himself and it really implicates in this. so that is still something that was feeding into his campaign, potentially. i can't accuse man washington when he thinks there are fears that a polarizing collection will further inflamed the culture war in the us this week, the department of homeland security warrant of a rise in right wing terrorism. the potential targets including the l g b, t q community as well as racial and ethnic minorities. now, while the debate over gun controls remains deadlocked in washington, one organization says the best protection for vulnerable groups to give them guns

as well. the double use in east of caught up with them to rob roys knows his guns inside and out. this is where the revolver said 9 millimeter. pretty standard. 45, se for the. he's a certified hand gun instructor, but not what you might call a typical one. he isn't a police officer, he's not in the military. and he doesn't vote republican. he's a member of the socialist rifle association and he knows his politics may be a bit out of place here at this rural shooting range in maryland. when he talks about the training he offers. he lowers his voice. so for what we're doing, the target group is to provide a safe space for trans um, queer people of color and other marginalized groups to get this training you know, teaching today just target practice with fellow as are a member of eric to keep in form in the parking lot of prejudice is confirmed. a

bumper sticker with an anti translator rabbit. i want to make sure that like, the very 1st back against this kind of like trans people have a right to lives. the socialist rifle association was formed in 2017 and now claims several 1000 members. a handful of the marilyn's chapters members have come out to this monthly picnic. they say they're nothing like a right wing militia. the one thing they do have in common is the belief that done this will make them safer. so i bought my um, i bought my 1st gun was a shot gun 10 days after january 6th. i was terrified that you know, there's going to be like an armed militia at the grocery store and like, my child is non binary. they hear me say they them or whatever. and you know, so they just just total like i, you know, this essence of paranoia. so i was raised to it and i sort of

recently came out as friends and both of those aspects to my identities put me as like a higher risk for political violence. what do you hear about it so much? it feels like, sooner or later it will get to you. and you don't want to be in a position where you don't see it. perhaps surprisingly, there aren't any weapons at the picnic, but there are turn. it gets in wound packing. after the barbecue, rob teaches a 1st aid course called stop the bleed. stop right there. look for blood on your hands. there are no illusions here that carrying a firearm makes you completely invincible. pressure in the us and overwhelming majority of those who lean left politically support stricter gun laws and are less than half as likely to own firearms as those who mean right. but at this public outreach event in a park in washington dc, the socialist rifle association finds an audience for its message that there is an

arms race in this country, whether you like it or not. and the right wing is winning by a long shot. or for a port by my colleague, i'm in essence, who joins me in the studio. i mean, if i'm honest, this is quite disheartening. i mean, can you tell us a little more about the socio political climate that makes people invalid or both communities resort to guns for their own protection because obviously they don't feel protected by the authority. certainly. certainly. yeah, i sense a sense of hopelessness there. um and you know, the department of homeland security just came out with a report yesterday actually outlining that the new terrorist threatened the us right now is from extreme is violence specifically right when violence. here's what they said in this bulletin, the likely targets a potential violence in the us, including critical infrastructure, are members of the eligibility to i, a community schools, racial and ethnic minorities and government facilities and personnel, including law enforcement and also the threat against law enforcement is now coming

from the right wing, not just the left wing like we saw the black panthers and things like this in the sixties and seventies. so this definitely a climates here that's different from when i was a kids, you know, growing up left wing and gun ownership just did not go together. but i think, you know, since the 2020 elections this kind of portal or ization, the united states, been culminating in the generally 6 riots at the capital building and storming of the capital. that was a watershed moment for a lot of people and the political left when they saw this uh, interruption of violence from the right wing. and i think that stuck with a lot of people. you saw one of these guys in my report saying that that he literally went out a few days afterwards and bought a shotgun because his kid i didn't applies as non pioneer and he was worried about protecting his own family. so this idea of protecting your own family on the, on the left, when it's an argument though that the, that the gun lobby has used for a really long time. right? it takes a good guy with a gun to take down a bad guy with a gun. how surprised were you? you see that on the left of the political spectrum, right? this is, is kind of new to this generation. now you haven't seen this since previous errors

and us history. now this is not a surprising to historian, has looked at the us gun violence has existed above the left and the right. you had union members, radical socialist union members in the thirty's, carrying weapons to defend themselves. he had the black panther movement in the sixties and seventies army themselves against police. that was very product, provocative at the time. but this is pretty new. this idea that the left people would you be members that's very new that they would take up arms to defend themselves. so yeah, i think that i haven't heard this argument coming from the left wing and in my lifetime. but one, the difference that i would highlight is not this sense of like a hero who's at a shopping mall and saves everybody from an attack that didn't exist in this group . but i talked to, it was more the idea of the if i'm trends and i am specifically personally at target for right wing hate crimes, then it's more about protecting myself against these crimes. it's heartbreaking really. and the truth is quite the opposite. isn't that it's more guns,

don't mean the more safety? that's right. statistically it's, it's insignificant. you know, do you have these a horrible attacks from the right wing in the us, this horrible bloodshed and violent, but it doesn't make individuals typically more likely to die from a gun violence. politically motivated, gun violence is still just a small percentage of a gun related deaths. but what is interesting is you know that, that this idea exists that, that they have to do that. um, so yeah, i think going back to the idea that yeah, that's it. owning a gun will make it safer. um this did study after study shows. this is simply not true. there was one from philadelphia that said possessing a firearm. it was done over a year cuz there's a fire makes you 4 times more likely internet salt to die from that assault. and if you had a chance to defend yourself, meaning if you could actually draw your gun in, send yourself, then you are 5.5 times more likely to die. so even the idea of like being aware of

somebody attacking with a gun, having a gun yourself, you are more and more likely the more armed you are essentially to die in an attack . how many you said thank you so much. i and that's our time. but make sure to stay informed, stay engaged and stay in touch. you can follow us on twitter and go to our website . that's data. com. think some to watch the

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