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no, of course a minor gets $0.10 to the dirty business of beauty in 45 minutes on d. w. what secrets lie behind being discovered new adventures in 360 degrees and explore fascinating world heritage sites p w world heritage 360 yeah. now this is the, the news africa coming up on the program. the people forced to leave their homes and sit down for example, congo and fights and has people, li, we speak to some of them who i've ended up in refugee comes in the neighboring chat . sometimes when he hasn't agent, as my 5 people say the way evict that from the unsuccessful land by government,
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we hear the story and ask governments to justify its actions. last, i forgot to the world for the 1st time, defend this architect. salvia not, it shines the lights on africa as the driving force shape and the plan. the i, i'm eddie micah junior, as you are, welcome to the program, the ongoing sites and inter down the repeated breaking of ceasefire as is false in hundreds of thousands of so the nice to flee the homes according to the un around 80000 people have crossed into neighboring china alone, to escape the violence report. tosh allow wow, met some of them and comes in bottle to near the border a just a few days ago. she was born on time as far as like,
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very different. now. she's in blue terrace in chad. just simple enough and then what's the thing i left in my bed behind or photographs of my very nice house that my matches that were fine as well as the fact that i left them all behind me was in a dark door and sit on it. it's a region known around the world full of violence and hunger. but while her husband was a nice born state, when he was killed in the latest conflicts back home, she took her 5 children and slept the walk for days to get quite the conditions. to see the comp is beautiful scalds and sticks and lots much else. there's a storm coming in right now, which means many people here will have no shelter from the rain. and right now the houses are literally flying apart. bone and her children are just a few amongst thousands in discount. all the accounts nearby already host nearly
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half a 1000000 who planned for years ago, supplies and funds, woods heights in the region before the latest violence aid workers say. now with people like born and a family here, there's even less to go around a certain amount on my spot, i see the maya. right? no, we don't have enough assign system to do that. we worry about how to get enough supplies for. yeah. so we can help in time, you may get more of a dollar delay. it's not just sit and these people who are arriving come come to ma . here is 4 charges who are leaving on the other side of the border which let the file and they to bring stories of murder, relatives, and rapids villages. and they too are desperate because these people have come home . so not technically refugees, date is much more to reach them. this well is suppose to supply what type of 7000
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people. i mean anyway, there is no water, no food. the children sleep on cardboard without blankets and there is no hospital to help us out. it is very difficult why, you know, we don't know what to do. people should come to our age. everyone here is looking for safety. those who left are 4 years ago. those who escaped the reese and fighting into the dawn and those who came home to todd but found nothing but 8 organizations warrants file is still over into the caps. so could you look, prosecute with in terms of security, they're still located on the border. that's not very safe, they're still very close to the areas where the fled from. it's another job to find suitable sites to relocate them, to set them up and give them everything they need from a from one that's awesome. the backend complex task borne and focuses on basic needs. well, hello, come to mind the i have no clothes for you,
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for the no plastic tart, no soap, and no brain 97 to 90. i don't even have simple green to cook t n t. now for, for the mind, a bit of a bigger hole is to return to a home that is just a few kilometers away. but that feels more distant with every seas fire. that's who dons war in general's break. let's now turn our attention to not in terms of the way claims of possible eviction from the my side community have sparked full tests and it grew and fights with the governments. we're going to be my side. that negation is kind of the loop seeking. international help to stop the authorities from moving my side communities out of the young to the other canyon border. and in go creates that conservation area which is a unesco welled heritage site. both areas are famous for high end safari tourism
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which contribute significantly to the economy and the 1000 in governments as the must be protected of the mass side, claim that decision to be locate them from these lands has destroyed both their lives and livelihoods, smallness. i am now joined in a studio by joseph on the same day as he wanna ride lawyer and active is to push in for my silent tenure. right and not to city both of them from then go, don't go to the district. hello and welcome to the program. thank you very much, desperately. i'm not sure it will. talking had local language. my and joseph for translate for have and obviously let's start with you on a personal level. how does it feel? losing your ancestor roland? from out in the living the way me and go 191 button to you know columbia? sure. hello region northwest. hello dicey. see you on kindly send me my loan. when the login now mother, she lives, what does she presented?
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some of them in that room. sure. now what do i mean? you know, by now i'm in the industry voted in those navy uncles losing lens has so much on the implications because you're moving so they've been able to utilize the life itself. you are not like a flight. you must slip in level one bedrooms, so you lose your costs out, you lose your supply quality effect. you know. so basically losing land almost means losing everything you're losing out your life time. let's be clear about the way this land was last. was it a case of being forced out by the government or being the best way to to leave it was the 1st floor level off. i mean, it is a living on the lines. it wasn't the police, they never type light, they come with the military, and i've talked to everyone in the labs to go. so it was another sort of fact that speak, sees, look the model simple in that place. so it was
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a 1st for the mobile. that was one part of the area was it was, it was about what i was supposed to look for that because one, it was within guns. tomorrow we don't one, do you hear me and i'm of that, which is us. hold on. that's been what a little ease they take away. the service they spend studies, schools, everything's focus, look at the city is without any government acquaintance. then they'll tell you, this is a voluntary is not a voluntary is a choice between a 100 and a desktop. okay, with the mass i is a bit a citizen difficult, driscoll mich, michigan life, all would the bless you never thought of weight. okay, so i mean, you've been fighting for awhile to try to make things right. what exactly are you fighting for now? we're fighting for a face for the life of our people. and we think we have that one of the beginning of a fight because massey functions and 14 use with an identity. they
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need the support 30 police, they need to bust our limbs because the economy actually for the domestic cause is that life is the economy, is the kind of to, is the speech polity. so this way, what a fighting match, why they get it? yes is remaining and that's, that's a lot. okay. yeah. so to take to get them back to the assets i love. so it's only fair that we get to hear the government side of it. the government is arguing that the relocation isn't necessary to stabilize the ecosystem. and presented the environment because the, my side population i called into the government is rising. isn't that a fair argument and not the fact you've been split? most of the positions of pollution in the world might government or also says example, pollution, digital and smashed, noisy submitted. it may be told us that to do without a pleasant phone call of the seconds. if it is the interest of the animals, then maybe people have come to the site. the,
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i'm just the migration on this. my site might upset and getting what i'm going to use in the most areas. because my site knows more than in the more than the governments, more than that was the vision is how the vision watts wide them. i they believe that's why they are not listening them because they have other demands hunting, putting the hotels and the things tories in and the hunting is under my supervision . it is a lot of different things. they belong investments. as a stance, the government is not changing its mind. yes, click into the guns. it doesn't seem like you're going to return to the on the assessor alonzo. how to miss the guy you that the spiteful bring about anything positive that government is not sensing about as effects. but again, the choice then we have even if you most formulate, then we lose our life. she said, definitely don't lose it. so our choice is one of the one is the fight for the
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end. yet our i'm back small, more or less is on the left is the only thing that we lost the lens permit of the things on something. and a very quick one. when you say fight you talking about fighting in the court on defense things one of the guys a call illegal? no, no, no, no, no, no, literally fighting to violence, way fighting, pestering our rights. okay. wayne courts legal costs, low cost way every way possible. even those financing, it will stop financing for those ones that make sense, which is what we mean the level of how people. okay. more beneficial. and then it's and that would life, of course. okay. yeah, very much joseph, but it's in good humor, right. lawyer inactive is pushing for my salon telling you right here to get that way. knock a shimmy off from that region. thank you very much. thank you very much for having
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us. you know, in a moment would examine the government's position, the re, supplements that the un estimates will affect more than 80000 people. while my side group has been moved from the, i'm going to go to create to, into the village of them so matter. hundreds of kilometers away, but also you about to see it's not been a smooth london attempting to put down roots in a new land. this isn't home, you know, came i, he was moved here to some era from his ancestral land didn't go wrong or so it's too small to patch for his castle so we couldn't bring them. and like many of the of the mass side relocated, he says the welcome from locals has been fall off and will come. i mean, final, but i mean, when you normally come, they live in an area that used to be someone from the vox loan. with this um, it would not be pleased to see that i'm taken and given to others. i'm on a, isaac, for any they often accuse us of taking that land. but we're trying to let them
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understand the government process here and allocate the space to us and we didn't come from and go, go to seize the land. it was a government plan defending it later than they need to buy my new ohio. is it because we're going, we're going, what are we have? which will mean new in was there can be new fund, good among those they've had to make room is right. how about the 3 who's family has lived here for 43 years? she says, has 30 acre farm was recently seized unjustly, and now she faces the immense struggle of providing food for her loved ones. at this i am, well, we don't have enough land for farming and grazing capital, especially during the rainy season. it's causing a lot of problems in hardship, so me haven't even been able to cultivate my land because it's being taken over by people from new car and girls. living conditions have become so bad that we're practically living night wild animals to come from over the summative of residence
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. share her concerns, saying they were not consulted on how the land would be further divided. hey, till noon. i said kind in this situation, we can see that the government test created a very fluid system for this conflict, which seems to have no end how long these individuals have come here relative. but they've already turned into enemies due to the systems and the government is puts in place. i want to address this issue. why me with that's what the government says. it can reallocate the land because much of this area was a legally occupied and the 1st place a residence. so then you will have to learn to get along the, the number 10, and then the section that the citizens have been deprived of the land is incorrect . you need to be sure that land has been returned to the village for them to share and to allocate according to that needs. because a more, you know,
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and should feel entitled to own 50. i because what law someone else doesn't saving half to 3 i cuz i don't want them to. i think i talked to han, but the new arrangements has left many with a bit to taste as they tried to start this new chapter and learn to live this new life that no one really wanted. now to hear governments take, we have invited his excellency after last solid policy. does any is on boss of the to germany. hello and busted off. thanks for coming. thank you very much. so the, my side call it forced to removal. how do you justify your actions? you don't for simply remove people by giving them the house and 2.5 acres of land and also let them voluntarily register. so that is not possible, but remember? well, if we have to be clarified here, it's not all my site people that were taken to a new land, some of them literally know where to go. but we spoke into some of them and they
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saying they were not consulted before we have forced to move out. not really. one has to know the history of the only, i mean the entire through the area of the northern girl. it's as a mission of the vision area as a thought of well, every day stipulation is always been increasing. you have seems increasing incidents of humans being attacked by annual and practical impossibilities a fund that live up in the area in order to ensure that people living in the area have good equal access to health services in addition, internally and essential and things to life. so as a matter of fact, the consultations that started, i mean in some of the areas as far as 2008. so it is not a forced air force process. and as i mentioned, as we're talking now is some people voluntarily registering themselves for the 2nd
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phase of a settlement to so man. and maybe just to the point it is not the 1st time in the, near the people in a particular community have been a reset or for purposes of a professing may be important sources of what the. oh, i them, an ecological i, i think they, they argument is not really about resettling people that these are a lot of my side people that i've seen that do with forced out dorians, even given a choice. they didn't have a say in it's usually you spoke to some of them, they're still quite a large number of them. that's the, the way not spoken to. and now they are dealing with a lot of challenges. but you talk about conservation plants. my question is a country do more to make your conservation plans co exist with these communities? why did they have to move out to make room for conservation events? that was the idea is independence. and as a result, of course, they must say is we are leaving the people we're leaving and then go to go to conservation area us. um,
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where living according to sit and regulations. the problem is those regulations were not really to their welding because when the land there was not this, so there was no ride to view it from on. and how is it as you cannot, and it's continuous leave you with the schools and hospitals because otherwise you will get rid of the world heritage site and the population is increasing. what is the practical solution? yeah, in order to make sure that the people living there also there would that equal unfortunately to, to exercise of the rights of other citizens of the united republic of the engineer . so it is not just about lifting a person leave in a particular area is about having a big picture of the future. innovations of both ends ends, business i o, any of the tri boy living. and so that's kind of a situation. but i mean, at the end of the day, unless you're saying that they would live that they live now for those of them that have moved to a new land airline space,
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the now struggling to share resources with the locals that'd be met. this would be a facing some challenges. what are you doing about that? not true. that according to you, that we spoke to people that are live in the, at these adf, these and it's always easy for you to see not true. of course, you don't live that, but they said yes, facing these challenges and if you think about it, if there were a little closer with the existing anna, please more have been added that it's only natural that if i for resources, why do you say not true? you know, let me tell you with the terms and yeah is that's kind of the whole science overland is 3 times bigger than the size of germany and you would lots of an occupied space and occupied land. yeah. some find 2. 05 families. yeah, i mean it's not saying like, or maybe one or 2 might say, okay, well, what is it, what are these changes doing is lots is not the same like them. some people are resisting. the fact is, as we have talking now, you good, you've,
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you've not the head of any promotions in so many region where that is, you always implement and even now in, in your, on your area of the vision area where the so, i mean is i'm moving early for this, this week, last week, or even a week before last week, you haven't had of any promotions. and as i've said, people, avalon deputy registering themselves. ok, no, any continuous commotion, then you would have known that. ok, there's a problem. the fact that's no more promotion going on in that some of the things i think it's better also to let's time for news. ok. so, i mean, you argue that's no commotion, but we had a report that is basically looking at people that are complaining that the lives of change, the struggling for we still have to. so again, those dealing with it or facing the challenges, see it as an issue. usually there's no commotion by the feel. it, but before you go, cuz cuz i you, you'd definitely be a very busy man and we want you, we don't want to take too much of your time to my side communities and says they'll do everything to get the land back. is that still room for negotiations?
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well intends and that's the good thing about the united republic of tends and then we have the constitution. we have the fundamental science industry and in the car institutions. i mean, since 198 is the new edition, he has developed miss quiet the neg, then importance. usually students in human, right? so if people think that they are right so being encroached, the legal making, these things are still there. what is the most important is the end of the day, it is important to find a practical solution and for the government. and it is phone that in order to ensure that the mass of it with the equal rights to online equal right to it occasion to health services to development and others. it is important results because at the end of the day i would really like loved one, the me to see many more of my size as, as, as okay, maintain the concept culture life. but at the same time, most of the bank own as
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o. c, o is the way it cetera. and because otherwise it's not that the, even if we have, we have, we have talking about the maintenance of culture and life is not, i'm not condemning a person to live in poverty because that is the area. now we have the forward rate is high, the interest rate is more than 64 percent. yeah. so it should be higher than any other place in the religion in, in the region. so you, it's, it's unfair to let things go the way they see it is excellent and see not yeah, they're always doubts when it comes to new things. okay. most important is live time on. so you good answers. okay. his excellency of that i solid policy doesn't he has on the bus without the gemini. thank you very much for your time. you're welcome things. the world's biggest architects exhibition has opened an entity. and this is for the 1st time, the venice. the anomaly is moving its focus from europe to africa with event to
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a 10 by the renowned gun. the ends caught this architect. leslie local. the vince invites the great and the good of the architect to well to its be anonymous. organize the this here. look to a future shaped in africa, and yet you tell you and immigration policy bought some going to and contribute to us from attending level teams that equal to the team based and across who were denied visa is to attend the next submission to which they have contributed the time, ideas, work, and labor for almost the 1st time in my life, words fail me with more than half to contribute to this from africa, all of the diaspora. this seems to be a non, it looks to redress the balance of what is traditionally or do routine to fit q right. that is the local, says african architect offered inspiring ideas for the future. i very much hope the audience is you come to see this work a surprise by the level of sorts of care of beauty,
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of hope. ambition, activism under the ban of the barbara tree of the future. the festival investigates ways of adapting to climate change with most sustainable ideas. africa can be key in this says no cool. it's a continent of rapid change, but also a place where the effects of climate change have already forced people to respond. mariam is super camara. heads up and coming architect practice in the main. yeah. it's called g muzzle me. they take inspiration from traditional building techniques in a country where it's 45 degrees celsius. when you build in cement, it's 15 degrees inside of the building versus if i use earth, which is abundantly available. so cheaper number one. number 2, it means that inside one is 45 degrees outside. it's 35. that's just common sense.
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established names like the book cannot be gym and stop, i could take the dual francis kerry have led the way. he wanted to put stock price architecture as oscar for his designs. he builds around the world, but mostly in africa where he empowers communities always using local resources for him. the challenge lies in the ability to adapt because i think the seen this is an architect. i think it's great because i see an opportunity to create something different. yeah. and that is a song, so yeah, this is q right, tough to be a knowledge says the story and future of architecture would be incomplete with out the african perspective. but highlighting africa, this is exhibition challenges. the wisdom perspective that has dominated architecture. it's an attempt to learn from the agility and innovation of a young continent to find solutions for the future. and that's how the end the show. so you,
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