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we never felt like james bond shoot, filling spine hot spots past and present until early a small pond. at the truth. the college of the city holds even more of the truth told in countless spine movies the . the wisdom and eastern secret service has waged a clash of titans. info named were opposing systems collided. the front line of the cold for the may for tegan is of the cold war. live door to door, invalid. fine. and i'm just following up to startling and texting. so get this up.
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you'll need a visa once i other siblings donald, is these ends up soon. this ties into they get us on face spies was said to look on every corner in berlin from off to world war 2 until the phone with the building will in 1999 1000000000 at the center of the secret services. why? the in 1945 world war 2 was over, and the city lay in ruins. germany had lost the will, is it stops at the allies, britain, france. and the us along with russia, had freed the city from nazi room. the, the pump stem agreement divided, building into full sectors, one each for the victors. but hostilities soon followed the cold, who had been gone east fairly and was on the soviet rule. while the allies
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government, the remaining 3 sectors. in 1949 to germany's were formed the federal republic, which would join nato in 1955 and the democratic republic, which would you into warsaw pact the saying here. the bench on costco has been researching berlin and it spies for decades. and his co authors, the book capital of spies. and the break comes around to 1947 when it was obvious that the nations that going in different directions for berlin, wisdom, east germany, was the beginning of the code forward. and that's a point also where the intelligence collection started to get more intense with the late and was now in orland, surrounded by socialist east, germany, eastern and wisdom house crushed the borders, but they representatives were allowed to move freely to in sentence testing for
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spies. berlin was the only city where this situation could be seen. and obviously this geo political situation offered a lot of possibilities for all, for intelligence services. and therefore, i would say, but then is of the capital of the coach or a journey through secret island in search of spies, the dock side of a global c. c. we meet for them, a spies with incredible stories. we were told to be careful. look around, but there was no special training now to recognize that you were to the, to tim in to you at the thought you spoke to of filling fixed. i know more important. in 1961, the cold war heats up dramatically. east germany built
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a wall between east and west berlin. that's like indian because he's going to mention pieces of items item the most. i found it to be kind of this the best customer when buying building was split into an east germany or guns to shoot anyone trying to flee. frederick strauss that was one of the few border crossings. it's where americans spine couple, jeffrey and beatrice ship. it's cross between west and east berlin to meet with members of the administrative, state security, extremities intelligence service, as well as the size of the country secret police, the years they with the country's top spies. the high profile target was the chancellor of the federal republic of germany, the of the department, and one a. they were specialized in getting information from the chancellor's office. and this concert, we were shocked. we were trained the spines and so we had,
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we knew we had a lot of work in a day, which is by, on the highest political figure in the country, making them some of the most dangerous agents of the postwar period. the former friedrich stross a check point between east and west. berlin was a place of surveillance and the espionage the stalls. a monitor who left the country and who met with their eyes and ears were almost every way the set at the station. the same from a spice till 2 small american venture and the volume for the extra association was a hot spot for berlin's by network. and there was fi gateways in both directions.
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wanna invited this to the, the strategy was formed in 1950 and conducted for an espionage well monitoring, east germans as well. it could not dissidence and operated its own prisons. a line in the s and spa ja, nearly 3000 people were hired for the m s. s and the 1st 2 years alone on the stage on business, and that grew steadily until 1989, one of the one device. dishonest is brutality remains a source of cinematic inspiration to this day lacking flu, a comedic series, the board is on slapstick. loud enough, the one with a slender sandwiches the
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the on stand. the stones, he will head close to didn't no monstrosity in east berlin. the museum opened to everyone, now stands with secret down. so that was once collected thousands of files restored here, including the reports to ship. it says delivered from the chancellor's office as well as other information from the various sources the my job was to take these reports, which were evaluations. and all the shades of grey within the government was the one who photographed everything. and then i took the night train, basel berlin jumped on the train when in the toilet. i had to stand on the flow and pulled down the ceiling and put the box in there. and then i went home to ship. it
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says would never expose during that because the years but all the agents were over and over again on both sides. the, the kleenex of bridge separates west berlin and put stuff. then a part of east germany, the bridge became the symbol of agent exchanges. a not time went to scene, and steven spielberg's film shows the cold ruthlessness of a tough business, opened the gate. the rudolf is there not the possibility that my people are going to shoot me? yeah. you're not worried. would it help the, if you knew the book of this life, the cleaning cut bridge is probably the most exaggerated spite location in berlin, and the skip tubbs safely stuff that you need help with. and with the high mas buys,
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were only exchanged there 3 times. and 19628586 i didn't go by. it was still important in the context of berlin. the because it was used by vehicles for allied military emissions between west berlin and part of dominy. i'm the lead him is your opinion of taking a couple of different details. well, once agents to the soviet pgp who also lived into the land in this quote yacht, they were trained in the city. my wife has been buying for 10 years to be assigned to sleep. the agents in the us, the fuel and grants. are you mind kitchen just buying is not generally recognized as an occupation of that. or you can't just apply um the, the adventure. the excitement arose from traveling through 5 countries and 14 days
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at some time under 3 or 4 different names. hudson toyota, a few 15 and um 5 in 15 years with a k g b. i never once held a gun in my hand and i use my you want me to buy for it and i, and i'm to i once flushed my passport, done the train toilet, then grabbed a new one for you to the noise. and then what then i had to check into a hotel and completely forgot my new name, me and vision. now mission yet i just have a on a hill and the wisdom outskirts of building is the appropriately titled, teufel, sped, or devil's mountain. the americans, most important listening station was here alone in the forest, on the hillside with berlin visible in the distance. the sides is open to visiting its aging pooley that is still well secured. the one, despite they could intercept radio signals here from far into poland. one,
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and that's why the stars the end, the k g b took it very seriously. i'm no more than they were. did lee able to install their own spies their thoughts? i can if you want to add some some. yeah, so you heads up to 1200 people there and we shift 8 our system. and those people were listening to the conversations and of the washer. and they just listen to it. and this is a boring job. so that is not the life you would expect as a because by boring in film, the 21st, the style just the nodes sent to the behind the charge city. we need to know why here this does this here for and everybody knew this place was crawling with spies from all over the world. just as was the regular citizens didn't notice anything in their
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everyday lives. become the marie and shelter transit camp in west berlin. its way east german rescue, cheese profess registered and housed, but not always innocently. wisdom secret services like the c i a, in the british m. i. 6, went to the marie and sold it to the elbow. all east german citizens who came to west berlin had to 1st registering marian failed to pay the moon and being questioned by the intelligence services from the 3 allied powers was part of the admission process. before hartford aim was to persuade people that often now they decide to leave east germany. they might, could work for west germany the, the ship. it says lived and spied in west berlin,
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but travelled regularly to the start as a collective in east berlin. because the department was used to relate instructions and give them a place to have lunch and chests. harmless were not for the of the high price. all spies that we've met for 13 years, always in that apartment. we weren't friends, but we worked well together. we became a cheese and developing our legend. so if we would ever, because we had it all clear, they gave me virtually fry on to this side, what information would be useful. and then i develop projects for my sources and sent them to get that. we got information about discussions within the government and especially differences whenever it covered and has a policy. there's always differences of opinion. and that was important to know while the ship, it says well active agents details had to wait in the us. they were to live under
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false identities. on notice, on the scene, we were of gov of i was in need with our job was to establish ourselves as us citizens in case of war broke out between the soviet union and the us government. and the embassies close to go with the board draft of your floating via and food. we would have been supported, the soviet agent network in the us again. and it says over here in your and i just bought a tie and it was really the only hand move we could only rely on each other. and the separation from our family was of course, extremely difficult. on so on the tuesday we left moscow not knowing for how long before last and most com use me because if you got a secret chip at the west and most points of berlin on the former east german border time seems to have stood still got to a post once used by the nazis allied fictive britain to critize off to world war 2
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. it's now i'm going to treat ation museum the right out for a spot here from north to the royal air force was stationed here from 1945 until the early ninety's, after the war, every occupying force had their own air field. that's the only kind of the americans had temple hoff gospel. the british had got to the front and the french later got take a human on the blueprint. and the british primarily did military recognizance english, which is commonly known as espionage shotwell, investment lunch, or things like that impact the fuel gnostic and the zip codes. the fun fish deal that the air field was directly on the border between west berlin and east germany. the uh, but not only did the british spy on east germany, but on the out,
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the air field was also monitored by east german border troops. and the stars the as well. the, the aunt of the stats, which i had got to almost a cinema sheet joining back in time. as it, the end of casablanca, had been filled to it wasn't, the image is a deceptively sing along the hang of 4 guy. so if field is particularly intriguing, it's the only hang it that remains close to the public. the nice arkansas have the entire hanger was equipped with down truth booth stands with the state of the art listening equipment of copy. my an oldest post office, which means the americans and the british always shared. one of them i put to submit about they were always british air force personnel and the toys,
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those bug surveillance station in the car, and american personnel were also here in gato, auto us and bush spies more especially active the way their response. they're also defective and double agents working both sides. george blake was one of the best known bush double agents. he's the key to the story of the mysterious tunnel. the, the allied museum is in the southern portland district of dunham. need the form of american military headquarters spied spence compared to with the c i. analyzing sources and the bush planning a surveillance tunnel. the options will not be found on investing in the toner con to find out pressing position defense. not send the on,
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get something copy that was thrown into the given one day. it wasn't feeling good. spinning to find out what the elements in centralised about off and yet i'm going to the least up to on most of the on the best outcome after that building on the play. so the toner in, i'm in the economy, some of our desktop zone in the allied museum now exhibits original pumps from the famous tunnel 6 meters, which us by tunnel that was built in the early fifties and then was in service for 11 months to tape the telephone conversation on the east german side, the telephone conversation associates, southern mucho administration, was doing the tunnel was problematic from the start pre k, g b, u, that the americans and the british were listening to them. and this is because produced a double agent, george blake told the k g b, the americans and british,
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i'm building this tunnel the can you be had a problem? because if the tunnel would have been found that a, if a leak in time american, some british but i'll just be aware of that as low as the site. it's officially found the tunnel 6 months later ending operation gold. as it was not pictures of the spine tunnel went around the world. and double agent, george blake would like to flee via east berlin to moscow when he died in 2020. the why do people like play called the ship? it has become spawns, power, money, ideals, east germany as an attempt at a better society. this experiment in the east was a worthy experiment after the whole of cost. but no one talks about where the experiment because it didn't work. and so okay,
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we've accepted that. but we don't forget as jewish people, what happened in this country here? we did see an attempt to keep this more cold and not loaded escalate to be really checkpoint charlie in central but in the legendary crossing between west and east charles to us now but was then closely guarded by both sides. the water. they wanted to make sure that no one from an american or other western allied region entered east germany without registering when they went in one of the for when they came out, we have found out right in front of the house called in the midst of the rice, a famous agent, crossed the check point. his political mission was just as important as the sense of entering absolutely hostile territory. solitude, the agent,
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the w. i don't know that that's a great company. the checkpoint, charlie is one of the millions best known landmarks here to world history was written on november, the 9th. when the berlin wall fell and the cold war ears seemed to end beyond cut and crumbled, re uniting the city. but not all were pleased, many spines lost their jobs to political back rooms. the reason to be the details were in the us when they learned the bowls at full and the k g. b agents
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decided to return to the most cobra. and i'm be sure when we were back in moscow, they tried to persuade us to continue then because these are drugs who will have disorder. and they said the situation had changed so much, or that if we were in berlin, they couldn't help us anymore. this, you know, the sure still for you, we were afraid at 1st, because the c i a and f b. i were kidnapping people off the street here in berlin, in the early ninety's, putnam conducting those events. and we thought of something like that happened. nobody would help us and that was, it was as well and with the other spies also afraid of to the full of the will where they punished. you know, jeffrey said, i think we have to be prepared and we were prepared. it was okay for 4 years and then they came on the 4th of may. they rang the doorbell. i wasn't even there. and jeffrey was the rest. and our son was with jeff. they put me in the current river
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course, and our neighbor came over to be a witness when the house was search or in the end, agent shifts was acquitted. the couple ended this bind careers without the criminal record. nobody was killed. we weren't killed either. so we went on with our lives the, the spine museum opened in central portland in 2015, nearly 20 years later. it's now a most for spies, funds and recounts buildings story as an espionage hotspots with exhibitions on surveillance and want to typing techniques, people scandals, historical tiles, and reports on current cousin cases. the cold pool is also but agents continue to operation is building again between the front of the new cold war. the 1st
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example, an execution. send him change and go severely. a georgian shot did in the t a got in punk, his dad suspected to have been ordered by the russians secret service. second example. in 2021, a man fell to his death from a russian embassy window in berlin. his body vanished shortly after blacky back to moscow, a spine 30 example in 2013 room is raged at. the american embassy in berlin was want tapping top gym and politicians, including the chancellor. politicians were furious. the tip of the iceberg, the bench for lane as the europeans by capital said, the 2012, the 2018 president of the federal office for the protection of the constitution. i'm the supervisor. sure. in 2019 the gym and federal intelligence service
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responsible for, for an intelligence gathering. moved into a $260000.00 square in mesa building in berlin. a mess is building for full 1000 and stuff. put to the old building still seems to be a popular choice for intelligence agencies. we know only that there is a dock c cushions, sometimes deadly assigned to this city. the the
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