just to reverse the researchers and scientists all over the world for a no race against time. they are peers and rivals with one daring goals to help smart nature, the more likes watching it on youtube, dw documentary and diplomatic circles. the broad consensus is that the war and ukraine will and not on the battlefields, but at the negotiating table. but the how, when, and where of it or anyone's guess, while the blood shed in ukraine, drugs on the list of those offering to mediate gross longer and longer south africa as part of what aspires to be. the african leaders piece mission, a group of 6 african nations seeking to be part of the solution. but with the

regions historic ties to russia, concerns are that some of the, one of the mediators might be closer to the aggressor and to the victims. i'm gonna call for lincoln berlin, and this is the day the prison put in prison. zalinski agreed to that there would be willing to receive the mission of the african heads of states and russia will take part in the summit on a proper level. i believe that you agree and really needs to fix that. for me is the country's okay. i forgot to continue. anyone who is attempting to so hopefully that will, should be given the child also on the day,

the faces charges of war crimes of the international criminal court. over the abduction of thousands of ukrainian children, ukraine's president will load them as a landscape determined that they won't be staying where they are. i see is this program has just started and it started, well, we brought the 300 children back home to ukraine. we want to bring them all back home, all come to the show. it's not often that the presidents of ukraine and russia agree on something that's of their south african counterpart is to be believed. they both have agreed to discuss an end to the conflict with an african leaders peace submission. separately, of course, the continental legitimate reason to seek an end to the war. it has greatly disrupt that food supply chains and regions that were heavily relied on ukraine in weight and grain. but there are concerns about the neutrality of the aspiring mediators,

especially south africa. a fellow brakes member with historically close ties to russia just weeks ago. the remo postal government was accused of providing weapons to moscow. so analysts are questioning why african nations are really attempting to position themselves as mediators. in a surprise move 6 african lea does say they will take part in emission to media at an end to the war in ukraine. they be present center, go uganda, zambia campbell brezza view egypt. and so the africa was president announced the initiative to lead us that i had occasion to speak to that his prison put him in prison as a lensky. i agreed to that there would be willing to receive admission of the african heads of states and both must go and keep waiting, but then you'd fairly t or some of these african countries in particular,

south africa has been called into question because of they have close ties with russia of the us, his are to use of the goals supporting russia with it, sees it russian vis. so the lady ira picked up. we points that we need to it is so that he can level best in december. so that if you got denies the accusations russian for in the meanest sig, lovegrove sees on the china, is presented at brand indies. now waiting for proposal from africa and brazil for each spot. ukraine has also acknowledged the need to, to improve ties with africa. ukraine plans that to open more embassies in africa and hold as somebody to with the lead us from the continent. yeah, fortunately, so crane dozer, but i believe that to create and really need to fix that for me in the countries. okay. i forgot to continue school content. we needed to work with for many years so we didn't pay attention to it. okay. i think it's a big mistake. yeah. talk. all right. i mean, you said it's a really good,

but we'll good. but if i think of nations that have failed to jointly solve conflicts on the continent like you'd shop, you also done. what whole do they have of making a difference in ukraine? is situational for anyone who is attempting to cover their will should be given the chance. so if, because of then closing this to the elections to us again, countries possibly got by to bloody as a member of the links, the group, if it's can use it's called z meeting to russia, to influenza russia, to top of the wall. then that would be welcome. the ukraine will, has left many african countries at all. is that with each other, and the united nations in majority chose to abstain from fussing if these are loose into one of them, right? she has envisioned. but the reason africa needs to push will piece may be closer to

home, the war, his width and for the fuel and the cost of leaving crises in many countries. lead is now thinking of the domestic benefits that piece in ukraine could bring peace efforts assigned the russian and south african leaders are already scheduled to meet later this year. that's alongside india, china and brazil. the other 3 breaks members at the summit of the group posted by south africa. but pretoria faces a diplomatic dilemma of the russian liter actually attends the break summits and johannesburg in august and the international criminal court has issued an arrest warrant against him for the war. crime of abducting ukrainian children unless you could in theory be arrested upon setting foot in south africa. and the kremlin spokesman says moscow is still waking up in what way it will be represented at the summit prussia. russia thinks that development of this full months and

integration is very important, and russia will take part in this summit on a proper level don't. we will fill you in on all the details later. as well, south africa's leading opposition parties as it is taking legal action to force the government to arrest flooding recruitment. if he does indeed turn off for the brick summit. on tuesday, the democratic alliance parties said it launched a court application to ensure the government detains the russian leader and hands them over to the i. c. c. here's part of their statement. if president vladimir putin arrives in south africa to attend the break summit and upon receipt of a request from the international criminal course to arrest, putting the south african government must immediately detain and surrender. president fulton to v i. c. c. one of the people behind this cord application is

the democratic alliance as glen as bright and bach. she's south africa shadow minister of justice. miss button buck, welcome to the day the south african government has just granted diplomatic immunity to all participants of the brick summit. is this an automatic, don't go to jail card for food? good evening. absolutely not. a, the diplomatic immunity extended to advocates for the big summit is a, is a, a mirror for magazine. it does not, it does not include in unity, full precedence for whom they are, words of arrest issued and they haven't made it clear that that does not cover uh somebody locked the prison in future and who has an international orange for users . so if it comes, we will be obliged to erase the advertising, human handyman. do you think that is going to happen though? a sincerely happiness. i hope he doesn't come. uh,

the obvious thing for our government to do would be to restore the invitation. but if he does cover me in system coming then now governance must make it clear to him that they will be obliged to meet their international obligations. that'll be obliged to give you fix to the warrant and race from the international criminal court. they would have to do training and they were left to deliver into the international criminal court. so if you kind of becomes the f address. mm. but then the members of the ruling party, the and fee of actually said that they will welcome him with open arms in the country. why do they seem to be so keen to say and who is good graces? well, you know, and government has a historical connection with russia. 31994. a lot of support was given by restaurants. a is a certain amount of video loyalty. this also we're all members of

the the big scrapings. so um, you know, this is not doing anything wrong with having a, a just america relationship with russia. why they, why our government is frustrating. such a and the car is utilized, the professor is not clear and certainly not talk to me. i'm rolling out the red carpet for a wanted war criminal, which looks very likely is going to happen. come august. what consequences do you think that could have for south africa? yeah, you know, the, the reason why we approach the port for dakota to order in, in this matter is simply so that it can be no ambiguity about what are our obligations. all. so we're hoping that the court will issue an order that sits up beside the steps to protect and is teaching does come. of course, um and, and,

and those states are quite can suggesting the reps that you uh, we've also um, domestic guys. and that last uh uh, when it arrives in terms of services and going to get it fixed to the right extension is one of those essential if he comes in there and our government does not comply with the obligations. this could be a disastrous for the country. we've already been very limited by the financial actions. task force is going to take a huge amount of effort to lift desperate listing globally if we continue to cause you to choose the russians. and the why wasn't done, there's no cost to put everyone oven out. regardless, status is this guy just cannot make these obviously could cannot afford to be kicked out of a it's a huge boon for our economy and, and our government just like a very dangerous game and your party is rallying for food is to not come to south africa, if he does come to south africa,

you want to see him arrested. how much public support do you have in that endeavor as well? you know, it just starts with the school direction. i'm quite sure of it. i really don't have a significant public support at responsible citizens inside. so could you not want to welcome a one to 2 minutes or one to and will terminals to service? it certainly isn't the space that we want to occupy. so i'm quite sure of it. by the time of is comes we are going to have new, significant support and, and if you does kind of, then we certainly do one subject that you comply with the guidelines in terms of the rooms that you want him arrested. we want him to change and we wanted him to live in to the south africa as trying to position himself as a mediator between the warring factions in ukraine. um, do you think this government is as well place to play such an important role in

this conflict? or are they too close to the russian leadership? well, you're a president again today in parliament uh told us that they intend to play this role a mediator. um we have our government does have a video cards relationship with, with the rest and the, the tech and what they call a non partisan storms on the, on the you can construct a but a non partisan stand is the, is the large bob expect that they continue to visit pressure, defense moves to spend a lot of time visiting russia just played for some obscure reason. just play video games with russia and china, you know, coastal waters. so yeah, you try and maybe well us as um, as a way to class the rest of the media sion row. how's glen as brighton box?

he's a member of the south african parliament and the shadow minister of justice. thank you for your time. so why does lot of input and have this problem moving freely on the world stage, because ukraine's of 19000 children were forcibly removed and the russian president stands accused of being behind their lawful and deportation. the international criminal court says that a war crime and issued an international arrest warrant against him, while ukraine's children endorse the trauma of growing up in a war zone. ukrainian president zalinski has turned his focus to one of the wars most shocking casualties. human rights of his country's children. though it would, you give us a ukrainian policeman, helps 3 orphans getting ready to be evacuated. the children being taken to stay with relatives after a show exploded in the back yard. but in many ukrainian children have been forcibly

taken to russia. instead, cave estimates nearly 20000 have been a legally deported president zalinski is on a mission to get them back. this newly opened the child rights protection center in caves, task adjust that as well as providing medical and psychological help to children who have become victims of crime or witness to them during the war. i see that this program has just started and it started, well. we brought over 300 children, back home to crane, but we want to bring all of them back home. this, the international criminal court has issued an arrest warrant for payton and the russians commission of the children's rights. maria little of up, alova, accusing them of abducting ukrainian children, a war crime. russia says these are evacuations, not abductions. they claim to be protecting children by removing them from the

conflicts. 9, the reports of children being held in russian pre education camps or being moved around to different locations, making it harder for the families to find them as lead to accusations of genocide. yeah, what is the main task is to return document on hold the russian federation accountable, as well as the criminals who actually continue to kill the future of us state, which is the future of all children. until then also are to continue to work for the safer time and for a safe ukraine for them to return to to get some more context unless it's my pleasure to welcome maria of david. she's a security analyst and the european expert association and joins us tonight from keys. most of the good to see 20000 children are reported to have been abducted. is russia using these kidnappings as a weapon of war?

oh absolutely, and uh i myself, uh, was 2 kids. so, oh wow, one of these work, ryan, this was happening and there is an or financial there from bad 60 children adopted illegally deported to russia. and the russia is not even trying to hide deed they've a parade in this deport patients. and the later on these children put into the russian, orphanages. and i just sort of the do a very recei uh you bring in children in the orphanage in russia. and russian military views is meeting down and talking to them about the notification of ukraine. and we have to know that many parents of these children were killed because of the war started by russia. so this is not only they won't cry, this is also in human and 3rd party, a behavior of, of russia uses as children as a rap on in the war. mm. but many times the parents are actually still alive and

the children are just being told that their parents gave them up. isn't that also the case? but russian officials, i'm actually admitted to placing hundreds of ukrainian children and russian families and assigning the russian nationality that in and of itself is already a violation of international law. how does the kremlin justify those as well? absolutely. they what they do is they erase or try to raise the identity of ukraine and children by doing this. and ross of science that taking children out of the conflict zone. but if we look at the international equity into all the conventions, international conventions, children have to be taken out of the conference on, but that they have to be returned back to their families as soon as it is possible or return to the, to the native country we try so it doesn't do that on the country, they as dry as soon as possible to grant them russian citizens see. some is it,

they never ask the children if they're willing to do so. and in fact, the meal and who are below, but which was mentioned in your program, she herself to one of these 2 brand new young children and calls him a rush and citizen now. so this is not just a case one case of several cases. this is myself, a different station of children, which should be prosecuted according to the international, the out of all the missing children that you're talking about, just about 370, have been reunited with their families. how are you creating authorities going about finding them? and safely bringing them home to this is a huge problem to redoing these children back to ukraine because russia, as i said, is trying to give them russian citizenship very soon. and then they say, these are rational citizens now,

and they are not going to give them back to ukraine. so this is going case by case and rossa says that the children have to be taken back to your brain by their parents, which in many cases cannot happen because sometimes children have lost both of the parents. sometimes the friends are in the military and just physically cannot go to russia. well, there are other situations when friends cannot physically go and take the children back. so rasa is trying to do ever since to, to hold his children on the russian territory. so then they will become citizens of russia, and this is why the number is so low and this is why so there's so much effort is being taken into the programs that will allow to, to, to move to your brain a more children. and to save this children, that's the name of the one of the programs said you bring young children. yeah.

what international assistance is ukraine getting in finding and, and saving these children? well, there is a special program and the special data base where as these children is a waste of these children, which were deported to ra stuff. but a, we have to understand that the situation is very difficult because russia was taken most of the funds from the territory is that the hope you fight. and so it's very difficult to say how many of the children were taken out, and one of them, because russia is not willing to share it any information. so they try to uh, to find any information available and do not lead you granular a sore. it does know what was his children and where are they? so even gives a family that is looking for a kid. it's very difficult for them to find out where he or she is. especially if it's that younger age. children can not communicate by themselves with their

families. putting the president himself is wanted for war crimes in relation to these systematic abductions as you've described them. how can this be traced back to him? it's very simple. it's all. this is the accusation to him, not a for any of the christ that russia or he's himself has to me to. but specifically for these, because of putting himself said like do in order to fulfill these different patient of you grading young children. and there are numerous vito's of human talk in the robot below and given this order and then also taking reports from bill of causes. deforestation is happening and there are specific rules. and specifically, geneva convention, we say, call children on the occupied territories to be treated as in no way they should be

deported to the all the conference. this has been a violation of international law. it is very clear here. and there are the, the doors which show us russian, we do us, which show us how russian military it is taking you brand new and children out of the or from that just taking them to the territory of raw stuff. so we have a complete criminal case here, or what, but one person, one team if we didn't use the one there for us in the military or full fields that were there. and you bring young children on me since because they are on the territory across and draw some doesn't say where they are. and then what's condition security analyst, maria of the of us. thank you so much for those insight. thank you. your greens army has specialized drawn brigades, finding the russian troops on ukrainian territory. both sides in the conflict have

deployed unmanned aerial vehicles with russia using arabian main drones to regularly bomb cities, including the capital key of our next report looks at how ukraine is using drones to outsmart the russian forces. a safe distance from the hail that his bus moved vile in t ms. cradling the eyes of the korean army on his shoulder. this little drawing takes its name from the local ward for stork under snow, a much valued asset, ukrainian fighters, engaged in trench warfare as it spies on their end to me from above the bill. the people who knows the success of a certain operation may depend on the work and efficiency of the u. a. v unit to communication. this work carries much responsibility in order to, to utilize so those are the possible recognizance drones, also known as

u. e. v. have picked up images like this. russian infantry throwing a blanket over there, hurts and bus route, or russian trucks. how you doing in the forest to to but it saves lives. either you go ahead line to walk into a trap, or you get guidance from the sky because this was my for the and then there are the attack drones jeep nimble unpacked with explosives. they're capable of landing a daily blow on unsuspecting combatants. select because of the eyes of the army. these are the fest for the drone, which was $300.00 and can be bought in any one be solved is capable of destroying online. it is not our team has done many die on the settle below. if you have destroyed the enemy's banks, simply have you ministry equipment and personnel is onto some very effective. gotcha. so boy, scott, but the,

and there are no wonder that you created on the set to be investing heavily in such low cost kamikaze drones. and the teams needed to operate in them. so just he claimed these weapons on like all those are in heavy as to rushes jamming systems. that's our time, but make sure to stay informed. stay engaged and stay in touch. you can fall our team on twitter apps that we use as myself advocate, underscore, and coordination. thank you so much for spending parts of your day without the

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