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a long d, w, or sports, all of our scoring we say they were about never giving up sports flies every weekend on dw, the premiums are fighting and suspension against russian aggression, a desperate determined battle for their rights to decide their own future. and yet, as they do so, part of the future is already in russian hands. the trying to change the identity, the culture. it's very easy when you showing them 1st killing the parents 1st raping the are mother's 1st and then telling we care for you
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supposedly or not to you. i look forward to youth, it's a desktop at some way both new people will live. uh, do you cheats, postpone the live just before most of them is optimum with us. that in itself is a violation of the geneva conventions and international law. because the geneva conventions are very clear that children should be able to go home. russia is being accused of deporting ukrainian children from occupied territories, and they proceeded as an elaborate the so the
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russian president vladimir 14 has been indicted for war crimes by the international criminal court. but it's not the mass cruise of butcher through the mass graves of easy room or the bombing of a fearful of children in the city of might of your pull that have led to these charges. it is the a, legit, systematic the protection of ukrainian children to try me and russia. we're taking a closer look at how and why the russians are doing this. and how are you crazy and women are getting their children back. the children are protected under the 1949 geneva conventions. there are special guidelines for their treatment if they're separated from their parents during war. particle 4 states that children are to be evacuated to safe areas when possible.
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and we united with their families. the russians don't hide the fact they've taken children from your training. these pictures like others, we will show you in this report, come from russian state media. their authority, say the vacuum added them for their own safety. but they have failed to establish communication with their families. and don't seem to be sending them back. did you need? the conventions are very clear that children should be able to go home. they should be transferred to a 3rd party country. they should be able to call their parents, and they should be registered with the red cross and the 9 nations. so this is nathaniel raymond, of the yale university humanitarian research lab. there open source investigation revealed what they call the large scale deportation and re education. if you cranium children by the russian federal government, this is where they are being taken from parts of ukraine that the russians have
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occupied, like the house on regions. and this is where they are being taken to. the report identified a network of at least 43 locations across crimea and russia. they're mostly camps and places around the black sea to you cut out inboard and central russia. and even the far east the researchers have records of at least 6000 children who have been taken to these places. which a queen's, i'm with women for children's rights believes the figure could be much higher way. but i am wish to see what color police could work. so the search creams could be just a quick shawna. so who would need that done? and when that's another one for them and seen the whole pathology to be made almost at the pl budgeted cisco, she's not just this which of these 2 devices she did, they so it came with will not see here. i thought you new person on you're done. it is like you off of it. let's give out all the chief. you can choose my you almost
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city to keep up with me. so look on the law, their pro fox, the put the teacher for the most trouble, but admission of the to me. no one knows how many children haven't taken it is impossible to keep track of what's going on and still occupied territory. and some families have complicated reasons for not going to be a stories. but no matter what estimate you take behind, every number is a child. and in most cases, a family trying to get them back. we met such a woman and as on in january, while her daughter was still missing the this is victoria home city of her son was occupied by russian forces for 8 months.
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during that time, her daughter katya was taken to training peer with senior. he is sod doing this, if this list shots gets the visible, the money goes to the ward to cuz the withdrawal is nationwide and the this also, besides the children of some thought as soon as i knew it, the little boy could also send you a gift before she is allowed, katya was 12, when the worst started, a sensitive and creative little girl. she withdrawn write poems in fairy tales. and yet she knew what was going on. her mother tells us on the whole post all the provision that they have to move give us the owners who they do for you. i'm the 1st stay on. mostly milton, via each of them was just the spicy sa symbol of her story. yes. if i size
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technical will schedule you and that's in your book fashion and block, and then you just give the e stuff the month. and the salem know, can on the series, the professor symbol, which is caution and the someone to your post of civil she wanted the culture away from the explosions that continue in the distance, even though the russians are long gone. and the camp she spoke of, that's the holiday camp. she said katya to thinking it would be safe. she accepted an invitation from teachers who were under pressure by occupation authorities to move the children in the logs, all which 4th and in with pork and most of them. but old style, you ordered, you know, going to do, you just want to do to just did a little more from knowledge card to the is the young as little as the or the community to you the why?
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his, the result, the ship modeling, keeping of the safety of the gift capability and simulate the voice simply and with the law office of small group of knowledge. so in the fall of, to go to the of the score on this was the, the russians didn't depend on families sending their kids away from the fighting. they'd often target the most vulnerable, taking children directly from single mothers struggling financially. and they'd go after places where groups of children lived without their parents was the low pass . so they knew closer to the federal care with us
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a bit of a dollar sup nicholas. this is valerie met aside. she is the director of what used to be a children's home. kids would stay here for what he calls social and psychological rehabilitation. when the full scale invasion started, he knew they were at risk. okay, you need e mails or they get similar. okay. okay, so serious about okay, or much of us a bunch of or yeah, cuz landscape the nights ago last year and was a good thing. he oh yes not so a couple just so yeah, you show one is that on the on the account which is okay. but you go with and that's so my opinion was but as long as just my bas novice escaped, the if you decided to move in with the children to better protect the special no of the lack of payment as to the level of it. so next i don't
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have my 5th message for lane course now to pull the code the less so they've to the side. the canoe keeping a low profile would only work for so long. and then at some point the russians would show up for the children. so he moved them to private homes. some went to distant relatives, others were taken in by employees. this almost ended in disaster. when a driver taking the kids out accidentally revealed at a russian check point, that he'd come from the center. it was thanks to a quick thinking teenager who heard their cover story that they got to be the teacher was pretending to be the children's hands against illustrates of the drawing pictures of the state of the whole of those charles stuff. so give it to me cuz i figured okay, will not block, put in for physically approval, the whole number portable up at a certain that you're on that both of us that slow slow. no, he is
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a china usually put statement. no i would use cause i would have to send us a breakfast with about us today. oh, god bless, thoughts on which i'm a trip to see to say it was an episode with the children like villas was the side that was trying to protect form one by dense 5 by the gale researchers at their report. russians claim to remove children from you, creating institutions for their safety or for medical care. but once in russian control territory, the children are given russian citizenship and absorbed into the system. they are sometimes adopted by russian families. it can be impossible to trace them. i don't see how the usual level of us to agree is case studies abroad, digit they and the people who are visual no hold on. yeah. for who many thought of him who the daughter, elizabeth and you know, i did this almost exactly. remember,
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especially with that of the order. he's just them for us to someone who, who are you, who come down. the other group is made up of children like cots, young children with families. they think they're sending their children to a free holiday camp and cry me or russia. but the children undergo, we education. and in some cases, military training. and most importantly, they don't come back home. the reason they send their kids away, like katya many trust the teachers who make the offer. so they have deep and long lasting relationships with these teachers. second aspect is that they've signed it, and we've seen these documents, power of attorney forms, giving consent over to the russian government where russia does not sign the blank part on the controlling authority. and so they've been using power of attorney in an open ended way that, that invalidates international definitions of consent. and so basically it was a trap. victoria from have san says she fell into such a trap. only after
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a while did she realize what she had done for me to go to this to the just just a new facility. this is the sales office. i need to use the shop book. i'm sure when you chose a personnel not able to send me some of this globally from you know, and you know, a stuff for me and knowledge store gonzales gives a new me was going to cause all store with them. we knew that i knew it was getting it to them with the guy that has those funds. hosking nicholas the summer was awesome. with the whole shane, you will, seriousness. it's important to believe in with some of those other because you seem to hold on to the kids at side tax center did not end up in the hands of the russians, but it was close to shows us the cctv footage of their visit.
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men with guns forcing their way into a children's home. let us see on the left side as nicely. jeff name is a bit so just so you i was just above a so you can just say, man is also a sensitive to pat. that'll stuck loves the color when i personally, when i shall color to pay deep my temperature the minute that you get the for sure. but if that's a excellent uh, zip code on a partially it will what he did was incredibly dangerous. he knows that's what he believes, preventing the children being uprooted and having their identity stolen was worth the risk. and that's a bit of a 2nd. oh, so they mentioned this and that's look, check mission. e c. the said do the family i cannot
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believe. center a number of little while as a variable the affordable they can cause that some of them them a battery which may typically for that i said if they other both for 5 feet per 2nd make you but simple. this for that i see well on very well again, if you give them the pl molly versus the c. so thoughts the so who is responsible for all of this, these are not isolated cases, thousands, potentially tens of thousands of ukrainian children have been taken to dozens of camps in premiere, and all of a rush. this takes people, planning, organization, and money. and then russia, that has to come in some way from the top. so we know pull it in here on the left. what, what does it does?
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but look at the woman he's talking with. she is russia's commissioner for children's rights, maria volva. and just like her boss has been indicted by the international criminal court for abducting ukrainian children. and she's even taking part personally by the moment not the should have been in the eyes of the kremlin. this does make her a work criminal. but a leading humanitarian. they are linked to these abductions in 3 major ways. one is that uh, putting issued a decree, giving ukrainian children citizenship in russia last year in may. second is that the government of russia has changed the law to allow adoption of ukrainian children in to provide a approximately 200 dollar month bonus for russian families that adopt ukrainian
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kids. 3rd is that this is a hold of government approach that for regional governors have been a central for facilitating and funding the transfer of ukrainian children into russia and their deportation. so we have established the russian leadership, including the russian president himself, have directly order these child abductions. we know they have made it easier for russian couples to adopt these children. and they've been given russian citizenship . russ, if occasion is a term that we've heard of lots in that context, forcing children to give up their identity and essentially become a russian in itself. and it infuriates ukrainians. see this as an attack from their country. so supposedly a lot to you. i look forward to youth, it's a desktop at some labels and you get the whole layout of the cheat,
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close blown over them with lots of them with the low to, to then the last that you put on and you do choose. so i'm in the city a. the d seems to cohesion a strong. what kind of dog gives me interesting one of my dogs to produce. she's not. so nobody is going to people from a dental mercy school so that i'd see the sets a year that you each from york octo month. so the credit school, not all the channels, the credit is going to get the summer. say you come with the evil middle except that all the strawberries you pick one up there, a more suited you say you can look the list. but enough truth, the, but a lot, the up on the so me flip the what it budget sweet was the book, let's see. and again, this has been going on for a while. while, while it's a plot, should the additional clips was on it. one of the specialists we reside to special horizontal move chevy to put you all to go on there and see cream, which of the knots at the middle to call this. what are you with is why me put your friend you, you, you crazy. so hold on down to cisco for that to none. the zip on the hosting. 0,
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one, the other crew. none of the new grad school, but there are other, more practical reasons to do this. it's not just an attack on your train for the russian leadership. such a policy is important to send messages to russians. this represents a very powerful way to say that we are saving these children from purported nazis. that is really the heart of the program. you can see that they're proud of it and they're communicating publicly about it because that's the goal. this is really a performance for a domestic political audience. and people have to understand that this is not a secret operation. this is a public relations point on the core level for the ukrainians. it's systematic child, kidnapping for the russians. this issue, monetary and operation. before observers, it's a hostage situation. the most disastrous thing in a way has already happened,
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which is they take the kids and why is that so catastrophic? well, now russia has leverage, and they have leverage that they didn't have before. in terms of any prisoner negotiation or negotiation about secession, hostilities, they talk for kids. and that is a fundamental leverage whether it was intended or not leverage strategy is now available to the russians. and they know that the so what can be done to get back here to have disappeared into the russian system. in most cases, there is little hope. there is no system in place and no official cooperation between the ukrainian and russian side. finding the children is the 1st big challenge. most have no way of communicating with their families,
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and authorities often move them around. and even if like victoria did parents know where their children are, they have to go get them. and this is usually only an option for mothers, because men of fighting age cannot leave the country. victoria have to go from sun to crimea. usually they would take 4, maybe 5 hours of driving, but going directly is no longer a safe option. she had to travel through ukraine, neighboring poland, cross and to rush outlined bella roost, and then through enemy territory, about 3000 kilometers in total. each way the back home victoria arrived on this bus with her daughter katya.
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there too, of a girl who's done the journey together. the katya did not know her mother was coming for her. focus with dislike victoria and other mothers could only do this with the aid of the n g o. save ukraine. they help with the logistics passports, buses, and navigating the borders. the provide your book on his notes since last. the last couple is the same. and that's when the new system. so the whole lot of the findings from my telephone the from the list of yes, this is a lot in victoria and come to your pillows, getting the kids out of the camps was not an issue. once the mothers with hair,
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but the forehead teachers had told katya a very different story. because i love the motional show national motors. put together the vision. what was the mazda posse display is involved in what the kids here tell us that the camps weren't all that bad. they were not treated poorly, they say, but they were not allowed to go home. or even talk with their parents. these girls think they know why and what are the zip additional additional one ready of coverage. you can put somewhere somewhere. it's interesting said the man to help him leave has
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a different theory. it's ross and strategy for children is who suffice. ukrainian children. that's why they no need to be them and torture them. it is a child. the child's brain is so flexible. if you, every day feeds via a brain of your poison from your propaganda poison. and during one month to month, this child will say, oh, russia is maybe not bad. it's via strategy. to date save ukraine has managed to facilitate 96 returns, but they're getting increasingly difficult. and the adults can look to see the numbers with different vendors. the middle of the news was just looking for the purpose of a lot of your some of the attendance and your sort of course not as to why is to do
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to understand they have instructions not allow the children go home. yeah, jobs during this nation. we recognize that they trying to block any returns to crane. you have the same documents, official representatives, mothers bought the towing stupid things that oh it's forbidden. what to go back with the, with your parents, the child know if you cross the border into rush or you cannot go back this and g o and the ukranian authorities are working hard to get back the stolen children like these, with they know without. but there is an unspoken issue, which is making things difficult. the fear of stigma. i mean some families are too scared to report their children missing and they could be lost forever. is one of
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the critical things that need to have happened right now is that in many cases, the parents are most worried about the reaction in ukraine to being seen as a collaborator in terms of having sent their kids initially in some cases. and also worried about being seen as a collaborator in terms of going into russia to retrieve their children. and so there is a critical role that the ukrainian government needs to play at the level of the president and the senior leadership of the government. if you pray the transport administrative mutual collab on january said that the mass abduction of ukrainian children was one of the most. i'm gonna report issues of the war. but a lot has happened since then. investigations have not only led to 14 and level the
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level of being indicted by the international criminal court. other russian officials and members of the ukrainian occupational authorities have also been section vacations are serious. with the russians call evacuations. the lenses can be considered an active genocide. russia is almost completely isolated from the west. like many other countries on to around 2 thirds of the world's population are either neutral or russia leaning jail investigator. nathaniel raymond says the duck tunes are clearly against international law that if anything was needed to prompt undecided countries to condemn russia. this should be, it is about laying a marker on the table for the international community, for those countries that have not yet announced the child abduction program and have not yet in down to denounce the russian invasion of ukraine. and i think that
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is powerful in terms of creating diplomatic leverage on russia to change course and gets the criminal shows no sign of changing course. the you investigators say at least 2 facilities in russia are giving teenage ukrainian boys military training, quoting and love i believe i say the program will be expanded if it's proven successful. the concern is these children can be sent back to ukraine and force to fight their own. the war against ukraine has been going on for well over a year. now. allied countries have become increasingly involved each time western countries took another step to help you train against russia. the questionnaire rose, how to avoid provoking putting how to prevent him from doing something, even worse than what he already started for thousands of ukrainian families. the russians have already made their worst nightmares come true. or they took the kids,
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