the and diplomatic circles, the broad consensus is that the war and ukraine will and not on the battlefields, but at the negotiating table. but the how, when, and where of it or anyone's guess, while the blood shed in ukraine drags on the list of those offering to mediate gross longer and longer south africa is part of what aspires to be. the african leaders piece mission, a group of 6 african nations seeking to be part of the solution. but with the regions historic ties to russia, concerns are that some of the want to be mediators might be closer to the aggressor and to the victims. i'm gonna call for lincoln berlin, and this is the day the prison and put in prison. zalinski agreed that they would be willing to receive

the mission of the african head. so states and russia will take part in this summit on a proper level. i believe that the great and the really needs to fix that for me is that countries okay. i forgot to continue. anyone who is attempting to still available should be given the child also on the day, the faces charges of war crimes of the international criminal court. over the abduction of thousands of ukrainian children, ukraine's president followed him, or the landscape determined that they won't be staying where they are. i see that this program has just started and it started, well, we brought the 300 children back home to crane. we want to bring them all back home . welcome to the show. it's not often that the presidents of ukraine and russia agree on something,

but there is south african counter part is to be believed. they both have agreed to discuss an end to the conflict with an african leaders piece mission. separately, of course, the continental legitimate reason to seek an end to the war. it has greatly disrupt that food supply chains and regions that were heavily relied on ukraine in weight and grain. but there are concerns about the neutrality of the aspiring mediators, especially south africa, a fellow bricks member with historically close ties to russia just weeks ago. the remo postal government was accused of providing weapons to moscow. so analysts are questioning why african nations are really attempting to position themselves as mediators in a surprise, move 6 african lee does see they will take part in emission to media at an end to the war in you create they'd be present center, go uganda, zambia campbell brezza view, egypt,

and so that's the guy who's president announced the initiative to lead us that i had occasion to speak to that is prison. fulton, and president lensky. i agreed, there would be willing to receive admission of the african heads of states and both must call an keys. but than neutrality or some of these of you can countries in particular, south africa has been called into question because of they have close ties with the rush you, i, of the us, his use of the goals supporting russia with it, sees it russian vis. so the lady ira picked up, we points that we need to look into so that we can level best in december. so that if you got denies the accusations russian for in the meanest sig, lovegrove sees only china has presented it brand indies. now waiting for proposal from africa and brazil for each, but ukraine has also acknowledged the need to,

to improve ties with africa. ukraine plans that to open more embassies in africa and hold as somebody to with the lead us from the continent. yeah, unfortunately. so crane dozer, but i believe that to create and really need to fix that for me in the countries. ok, i forgot to continue to content we needed to work with for many years. we didn't pay attention to it. ok. i think it's a big mistake. yeah, cuz right, i mean is it's, it's a little boy. ok. but if i think of nations i have failed to jointly solve conflicts on the continent like you'd shop. you also done what hold do they have of making a difference in ukraine is situational for anyone? who is attempting to tell them they will should be given the chance. so if, because of then closing this to the elections, it also didn't countries so fast with a bunch of blood is

a member of the links. the group, if it's can use it's called z meeting to russia, to influenza, russia, to tubs. that will then, that would be welcome, that ukraine will, has left many african countries at all. is that with each other, and the united nations and majority chose to abstain from fussing if these are loose into one of them, right? she has invasion. but the reason i pick a needs to push will piece may be closer to home, the war, his width and for the fuel and the cost of leaving crises in many countries. lead is now thinking of the domestic benefits that piece in ukraine could bring peace efforts assigned the russian and south african leaders are already scheduled to meet later this year. that's alongside india, china and brazil. the other 3 breaks members at the summit of the group posted by south africa. but pretoria faces a diplomatic dilemma of the russian liter actually attends the break summits in

johannesburg in august and the international criminal court has issued an arrest warrant against him for the war, crime of abducting ukrainian children unless you could. the revere rested upon setting foot in south africa, and the kremlin spokesman says moscow is still waiting up in what way it will be represented at the summit. prussia. russia thinks that development of this full months and integration is very important. and russia will take part in this summit here on a proper level don't. we will fill you in on all the details later. a while south africa's leading opposition parties as it is taking legal action to force the government to arrest flooding more prudent if he does indeed turn off for the brake summit. on tuesday, the democratic alliance parties said it launched a court application to ensure the government detains the russian leader and hands

them over to the i. c. c. here's part of their statement. if president vladimir putin arrives in south africa to attend the break summit and upon receipt of a request from the international criminal court to arrest, put in the south, african government must immediately detain and surrender. president fulton to the i . c. c. one of the people behind this chord application as the democratic alliance of glen is bright and boss. she's south africa shadow minister of justice. miss button buck, welcome to the day the south african government has just granted diplomatic immunity to all participants of the break summit. is this an automatic, don't go to jail card for food? good evening. absolutely not. a, the diplomatic immunity extended to advocates for the big summit is a, is a, a mirror formality. it does not, it does not include in unity for persons for whom they are,

words of arrest issued and they have made it clear that that does not cover uh, somebody locked the prism fusion who has an international warranty or is there is so if it comes we will be obliged to erase the agitated human handyman. do you think that is going to happen though? a sincerely happiness. i hope he doesn't come. uh, the obvious thing for our government to do would be to restore the invitation. but if he does come in system coming, the government must make it clear to him that they will be obliged to meet their international obligations that will be obliged to give you fix to the warrant of the race from the international criminal court. they would have to do training and they were left to deliver into the international criminal court. so you kind of becomes the f address. but then the members of the ruling party of the and see have actually said that they will welcome him with open arms in the country. why do they

seem to be so keen to say and food is good graces? well, you know, i definitely as a historical connection with russia, 31994, a lot of support was given by restaurants a either a certain amount of video loyalty this um also were all members of the big scraping. so, um, you know, this isn't wrong with having a just american relationship with russia. why they, why our government is frustrating. such a very courtesy, the professor is not clear and this is not popular. mm. i'm rolling out the red carpet for a wanted war, a criminal, which looks very likely is going to happen. come august. what consequences do you

think that could have for south africa as well? you know, the, the reason why we approach the ports are indicated to order in, in this matter is simply so that they can be, know and be guarantee about what are our obligations all. so we're hoping that the courts will issue an order that sits up, aside from this tips to be checked in as teaching does come and, and those fits across can suggesting the rooms that change. and we've also the music guides and they've lost a we're a blog in terms of f as in bold to get it fixed to the right extension is one of those essential if she comes in there and our government does not comply with the subjugation this could be a just asked us for the country. we've already been very listed by the financial engine costs courses and huge amounts of if it's elizabeth gray listing lots of loveland. if we continue to cause you to choose the rations in the language that

inclusive cost of in our various stages is this guy just cannot make me so i basically cannot afford to be kicked out of a it's a huge boon for our economy and, and our government is playing a very dangerous game and your party is rallying for food is to not come to south africa. if he does come to south africa, you want to see him arrested. how much public support do you have in that endeavor as well? you know, be, we've just started the school direction. i'm quite sure of it's ever over your hair, significant public support, responsible citizens inside. so could you not want to welcome a one to 2 minutes or one to enroll terminals to so that's a good certainly isn't the space we want to occupy. so i'm quite sure that by the

time move is comes you're going to have new, significant support and, and if you does kind of, then we certainly do one. so they're just going to comply with the guidelines in terms of the rooms that you can once in a race that we want them to change. and we want to deliver to that in south africa is trying to position itself as a mediator between the warring factions in ukraine. um, do you think this government is as well place to play such an important role in this conflict? or are they too close to the russian leadership? well, you're a president again today in parliament, a told us that they intend to play this role a mediator. um we have our government does have a video cards relationship with, with the rest and the, the tech and what they call a non partisan stance on the, on the you can construct a but a non partisan stand is the is the large bob expect that they

continue to visit pressure, defense matters to spend a lot of time visiting russia we just played for some of scary isn't just play video games with russia in china, you know, coastal waters. so yeah, you try and made aware of us as um, as a way to class direction to try and mediation row was glen as brighton box is a member of the south african parliament and the shadow minister of justice. thank you for your time. so why does lot of input and have this problem moving freely on the world stage, because ukraine's of 19000 children were forcibly removed and the russian president stands accused of being behind their lawful and deportation. the international criminal court says that a war crime and issued an international arrest warrant against him, while you creams children to endorse the trauma of growing up in a war zone. ukrainian president zelinski has turned his focus to one of the wars

most shocking casualties. human rights of his country's children though it but would you give us a ukrainian policeman, helps 3 orphans getting ready to be evacuated. the children being taken to stay with relatives after a show exploded in the back yard. but many ukrainian children have been forcibly taken to russia instead. cave estimates nearly 20000 have been a legally deported president zalinski is on a mission to get them back. this newly opened the child rights protection center in caves, task adjust that as well as providing medical and psychological help to children who have become victims of crime or witness to them during the war. i see that this program has just started and it started well and we brought over

300 children back home to crane, but we want to bring all of them back home. this, the international criminal court has issued an arrest warrant for the 210, and the russians commission of the children's rights. maria, little of up below, of, uh, accusing them of abducting ukrainian children, a war crime. russia says these are evacuations, not abductions. they claim to be protecting children by removing them from the conflict on the reports of children being held in russian pre education camps all being moved around to different locations, making it harder for the families to find them as lead to accusations of genocide. yeah. what is the main task is to return document on hold the russian federation accountable, as well as the criminals who actually continued to kill the future of us state, which is the future of all children. until then,

oh sorry to use continue to work for the say for 10 and for a safe ukraine for them to return to get some more context to unless it's my pleasure to welcome maria of david's. he's a security analyst of the european expert association and joins us tonight from keys. most of the good to see you. 20000 children are reported to have been abducted as russia using these kidnappings as a weapon of war. up so little to a and uh, i myself, uh, was 2 kids. so, oh wow. one of these war crimes was happening. and there is an orphanage there from bad 60 children to the doctor illegally deported to russia. and the russia is not even trying to hide deed they've a parade in this deport patients. and the later on these children put into the russian, orphanages. and i just saw the v do very recei. uh you bring in children in the

orphanage in russia and russian military abuse is meet them down and talking to them about the notification of ukraine. and we have to know that many parents of these children were killed because of the war started by russia. so this is not all it, they walk, right? this is also in human and 3rd party, a behavior of, of russia using this children as a rep on, in the war. mm hm. but many times the parents are actually still alive and the children are just being told that their parents gave them up. isn't that also the case? but russian officials, i'm actually admitted to placing hundreds of ukrainian children and russian families and assigning them russian nationality that in and of itself is already a violation of international law. how does the kremlin justify this as well? absolutely. they what they do is they erase or try to erase the identity of you creating and children by doing this and processes that taking children out of the

conflict going. but if we look in the international law, according to all the conventions, international conventions, children have to be taken out of the content on, but that they have to be returned back to their families as soon as it is possible, or return to the to the native country which drops it doesn't do that. on the contrary, they as dry as soon as possible to grant them russian citizens see some they never ask the children if they're willing to do so. and in fact the meal and robot below . but which was mentioned in your program, she herself to one of these 2 brand new young children and calls him a rush and a citizen now. so this is not just a case one case of several cases. this is a mass, if a different station of children, which should be prosecuted according to the international,

out of all the missing children that you're talking about, just about 370, have been reunited with their families. how are you creating authorities going about finding them and safely bringing them home? this is a huge problem to reduce this to invent back to ukraine because russia, as i said, is trying to give them russian citizenship very soon. and then they say, these are rational citizens now, and they are not going to give them back to ukraine. so this is going case by case and rossa says that the children have to be taken back to you green by the parents, which in many cases cannot happen because sometimes children have lost both of the parents. sometimes the friends are in the military and just physically cannot go to russia. well, there are other situations when friends cannot physically go and take the children back. so russia is trying to do ever since to,

to hold as children on the russian territory. so then they will become citizens of russia, and this is why the number is so low and this is why so there's so much effort is being taken into the programs that will allow me to do, to move to your brain a more children and to save these children, that's the name of the uh oh, the one on that program. so saves you brain, young children. yeah. what international assistance is ukraine getting in the finding and, and saving these children? oh, there is a special program and the special data base where these children is a waste of these children which were deported to a roster. but a, we have to understand that the situation is very difficult because russia was taken most of the funds from the territory. is that what you find? and so it's very difficult to say how many of the children were taken out and for

them, because russia is not willing to share it any information. so they try to uh, to hide any information available and do not let the premium associate. just know what for his children and where are they? so even gives a family that is looking for a key. it's very difficult for them to find out where he or she is, especially if it's that younger age. children who can not communicate by themselves with their families approved in the president himself, is wanted for war crimes in relation to these systematic abductions as you've described them. how can this be traced back to him? it's very simple. it's all. this is the accusation to him, not a for any of the christ that russia or she, himself has to me to buy specifically for these. because of putting himself said

like give an order to fulfill this do for patient of you grading young children. and there are numerous vetoes of human talk in the robot below and given this order and then also taking reports from the whole causes deforestation is happening. and there are specific rules. and specifically, geneva convention, we say, called children on the occupied territories to be treated as in no way they shouldn't be deported to the opposite country. this is a violation of international law. it is very clear here, and there are the doors which show us russian. we just would show us how russian military is taking your brand new and children out of the, or fund that just taking them to the territory of russia. so we have a complete criminal case here of 11 person, one thing that we didn't use the order for us in the military or full seals that

were there. and you bring young children on me since because of the day on the territory across and rational doesn't say where they are and then what can be some security analyst, maria, of the well, thank you so much for those insights. thank you. your greens army has specialized drawn brigades, finding the russian troops on ukrainian territory. both sides in the conflict have deployed unmanned aerial vehicles with russia using arabian main drones to regularly bomb cities, including the capital key of our next report looks at how ukraine is using drones to outsmart the russian forces. a safe distance from the hail that his bus moved, valentin mis cradling the eyes of the ukrainian army on his shoulder. this little drawer and takes its name from the local ward for stork. and it's no,

i'm much valued asset ukrainian fighters engaged in trench warfare as it spies on their enemies from above the, the people who knows the success of a certain operation may depend on the work and efficiency of the way, the unit to communication. this work carries much responsibility in order to, to utilize so those are the possible recognizance drones, also known as u. e. v. have picked up images like this. russian infantry throwing a blanket over their hurts in bus, moved a russian trucks. how you doing in the forest to to but it saves lives. either you go ahead lined and walk into a trap, or you get guidance from this guy who calls you this was my for the and then there are the attack drones jeep. nimble. unpacked with explosives, they're capable of landing a deadly blow on unsuspecting combatants. select because of the eyes of the army.

these are the fest for the drone, which you go to $300.00 and can be bought in any will be solved is capable of destroying online. it is not our team has done it. many die on the settle below. so you have described the enemies banks typically have you ministry equipment and personnel is onto some very effective guy. told us a boy scott, but the and there are no wonder that you created on the set to be investing heavily in such low cost kamikaze drones and the teams needed to operate. and so just he claimed these weapons, unlike all those are in heavy as to rushes jamming systems. that's our time. but make sure to stay informed, stay engaged and stay in touch. you can fall our team onto there at the, the use of myself, optical underscore coordination. thank you so much for spending parts of your day with the

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