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the, the ready for round street women in asia is back to con, take up. mine goes on, kill, kill down, thought i really st. madison as a life not just season 3 of our award winning documentary series. her women in asia or the premiums are fighting in suspension against russian aggression a desperate yet determined battle for the rights to decide their own future. and yet, as they do so, part of the future is already in russian hands. the trying to change the identity,
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the culture. it's very easy when you showing them 1st killing via parents, 1st raping the are mother's 1st and then telling we care for you supposedly not to you. i look forward to youth, it's it just got some way both you get to move one way of uh, the huge chief cosplay and the just the phone over them is that the one with the that in itself is a violation of the geneva conventions and international law because the geneva conventions are very clear that children should be able to go home. russia is being accused of the porting ukrainian children from occupied territories. and they proceeded as an elaborate the,
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the russian presidents, as i deem it puts, it, has been indicted for war crimes by the international criminal court. but it's not the mass cause of butcher or the mass graves of easy room, or the bombing, if a fearful of children in the city of might of your pull that have led to these charges. it is the a legit, systematic deportation of ukrainian children to try me and russia. we're taking a closer look at how and why the russians are doing this and how ukrainian women are getting the children back. the children are protected under the 1949 geneva conventions. there are special
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guidelines for their treatment if they're separated from their parents during war. particle for states that children are to be evacuated to safe areas when possible. and we united with their families. the russians don't hide the fact they've taken children from the training these pictures like others, we will show you in this report, come from russian state media. their authority, say the vacuum added them for their own safety. but they have failed to establish communication with their families. and don't seem to be sending them back. did you need? the conventions are very clear that children should be able to go home. they should be transferred to a 3rd party country. they should be able to call their parents, and they should be registered with the red cross in the united nations. so this is nathaniel raymond, of the yale university humanitarian research lab. there open source investigation revealed what they call the large scale deportation and re education of ukrainian
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children by the russian federal government. this is where they are being taken from parts of ukraine that the russians have occupied, like the have southern region. and this is where they're being taken to the report identified a network of at least 43 locations across crimea and russia. they're mostly camps and places around the black sea to you cut out inboard in central russia. and even the far east the researchers have records of at least 6000 children who have been taken to these places. which a queen's, i'm with women for children's rights believes the figure could be much higher weight. but i am wish to see what color police could work. so the search uh creams could be just a quick shawna. so who would need that done? and when that's another one for them, it's in the hope of college you to be late. but most of the pl budgeted cisco.
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she's not just this which of these 2 devices she just did. they say it came with will not see here. i thought you the person on you're done. it is like you off of it. but you've got all the chief in jewels now you almost city give above me. so look on the other pro fox, the put the teacher for them a single, but i mission of detailing no one knows how many children haven't taken. it is impossible to keep track of what's going on and still occupied territory. and some families have complicated reasons for not going to be a stories. but no matter what estimate you take behind, every number is a child. and in most cases a family trying to get them back. or we met such a woman and have sown in january while her daughter was still missing. the
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this is victoria. home city of her son was occupied, the russian forces for 8 months. during that time, her daughter katya was taken to training. here we senior, he is sod doing this. if the flu shots gets to visible, the money goes to the ward to cuz i'm withdrawing is nationwide and you have to all the children of the as of soon and you have to look up also send you a gift before she does. so. who knows who katya was 12, when the war started a sensitive and creative little girl. she withdrawn right poems and fairy tales. and yet she knew what was going on. her mother tells us on the whole post all the provision that they have just and will get to stay on. there's no thank you
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for young for stay on. mostly milton, via each of them was just a spicy sauce. the bullets are still uses. i rise technical will scroll again, that's in your book fashion block, and then you just give the e, the system up on the salem know can on the see the finish symbol, which is caution and the sum of the fuel pools of civil she wanted the culture away from the explosions that continue in the distance, even though the russians are long gone. and the camp she spoke of. that's the holiday camp. she said, katia, to thinking it would be safe. she accepted an invitation from teachers who were under pressure by occupation authorities to move the children in the logs, all which for to get more pork and most of them. but old style you ordered. and i'm going to tell you just to do, to just 30,
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for the whole month of knowledge is the as little as the old stuff, nobody to you to. why his result was just wanting to know the shakespeare, the gift capability, and seem to get their voice in the e. it's not, it's just a lot of knowledge. so now it's mom of so little eating this quote on this one of the, the russians didn't depend on families sending their kids away from the fighting. they'd often target the most vulnerable, taking children directly from single mothers and struggling financially. and they'd
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go after places where groups of children lived without their parents, with the low pass. so they knew closer to me that the federal, careful with us a bit of a dollar shop and that the little us and this is, will load him inside dock. he is the director of what used to be a children's home. kids would stay here for what he calls social and psychological rehabilitation. when the full scale invasion started, he knew they were at risk. okay, you mean the biggest thing, okay. okay, so it's very similar. okay. oh much of a se, virtually. yeah. cuz landscape the nights ago last year and wasn't shipping the oh yes not so a couple just so yeah, you show one is that on the on the account, which is okay. but you go with and that's so my opinion was what i was on my bas novice escape that the she decided to move in with the children to better protect
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the special no, i'm of the lack of payment as a to my now the hotel and that will it so nice the don't have my 5th message for land course now top of the called the less so they have to the side duck new keeping a low profile would only work for so long. and then at some point, the russians would show up for the children. so he moved them to private homes. some went to distant relatives, others were taken in by employees. this almost ended in disaster. when a driver taking the kids out accidentally revealed at a rushing check point that he'd come from the center. it was thanks to a quick thinking teenager who heard their coverage story that they got to we the teacher was pretending to be the children's have a gonzalez strips of the figure. so to state of the whole of those show stuff. so
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give it to him cuz i figured okay will not block party and physically approval of the whole number, but it will up at a certain that you're on that poster loss, that slow slow. no, he is a general usually put statement. i know i would use cause i would have to send us a breakfast with about us today or oh, becoming less thoughts on which i'm a trip to see the eclipse say when i say with the children like villas. most aside that was trying to protect form one group. i didn't find by the gail researchers at their report. russians claim to remove children from you, creating institutions for their safety or for medical care. but once and russian control territory, the children are given russian citizenship and absorbed into the system. they are sometimes adopted by russian families. it can be impossible to trace them. i don't
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see how the usual level of us to agree is case studies abroad, digit they and the people who are visual, know who i was when you, when, when he thought of me go to daughter, elizabeth and you know, i did this almost exactly a number especially with that authority, he's just them for us to, so i'm assuming you hook them down. the other group is made up of children like cots, young children with families. they think they're sending their children to a free holiday camp in crimea or russia. but the children undergo, we education, and in some cases military training. and most importantly, they don't come back home. the reason they send their kids away, like katya many trust the teachers who make the offer. so they have deep and long lasting relationships with these teachers. second aspect is that they've signed it, and we've seen these documents, power of attorney forms, giving consent over to the russian government where russia does not sign the blank part on the controlling authority. and so they've been using power of attorney in an open ended way that,
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that invalidates international definitions of consent. and so basically it was a trap. victoria from her son says she fell into such a trap. only after a while did she realize what she had done to the just if any facility you prefer to use the show book, i'm sure when you chose the 1st one, let me go to sleep. some of this globally. for me, you know, when you're a stuff for me and i would store them along, this gives a new me, well, it's going to cause i'll store with them. we knew that i knew it was getting it to them with the go because she was so strong as hosking. nicholas the little summer was awesome. well, the whole shane, you know, will, seriously, it's important to believe in with some of those other because you seem to hold on to the kids at side doc center did not end up in the hands of the
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russians, but it was close to shows us the cctv footage of their visit, men with guns forcing their way into a children's home. to see i'm enough as nicely. jeff name is a bit so just so you i was just above a so you can just say mine is also a sensitive to patch and little stuck loves the color when they personally, when i asked for college and they deep that my temperature, the minute that you get the pressure, the thoughts are excellent. zip k on a british label. what he did was incredibly dangerous. he knows that's what he believes, preventing the children being uprooted and having their identity stolen was worth the risk. and that's a bit of a 2nd. oh,
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so they mentioned this and that's look check mission e c. they said do the thing that came out of the way. something the number of little while as the variable, the affordable, the concourse. that's one of them. them a battery book, which meant to give her that i said if they other, both for 5 feet per 2nd, make you but simple. this for the table and very loud, you make you can them diploma? holly was just a see. so thoughts the, so how is responsible for all of this? these are not isolated cases, thousands, potentially tens of thousands of ukrainian children have been taken to dozens of camps in premiere and all over russia. this takes people, planning, organization, and money. and then russia,
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that has to come in some way from the top. so we know pull it in here on the left. what, what does it does? but look at the woman he's talking with. she is russia's commissioner for children's rights, maria volva. and just like her boss has been indicted by the international criminal court for abducting ukrainian children. and she's even taking part personally by the moment even customers flores and the should have been in the eyes of the kremlin. this does make her a work criminal. but a leading humanitarian. they are linked to these abductions in 3 major ways. one is that uh, putting issued a decree, giving ukrainian children citizenship in russia last year in may. second is that the government restaurant has changed the law to allow adoption of
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ukrainian children in to provide a approximately $200.00 a month bonus for russian families that adopt ukrainian kids. 3rd is that this is a hold of government approach that for regional governors have been a central for facilitating and funding the transfer of ukrainian children into russia and their deportation. so we have established the russian leadership, including the russian president himself, have directly order these child abductions. we know they have made it easier for russian couples to adopt these children. and they've been given russian citizenship . russell vacation is a term that we've heard of lots in that context, forcing children to give up their identity and essentially become a russian. and it's something that infuriates ukrainians. see this as an attack
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from their country. so supposedly a lot to you on the phone to youth, it's a desktop at some labels and you get the whole layout of the cheat, close blown over them with lots of them with the low to, to then the most that you can put on. and you do choose, so i'm in the city a, the dish him so he should have the wrong because out she was mutual. my doubts to produce. she's not so the people from what doesn't receive school so that i'd see the sets a year that you each from york optima. so the credit school, not all the charges of credit is going to get the summer. so you come with the evil middle itself, the thought was to boise, he went up to a more suited you say you can look the list but enough truth the but a lot the the so new book, the what it bought just sweet was the book you and again, this has been going on for a while while, while it say plus should the vehicle in additional credits was on it. one of the specialists we ordered is, are 2 additional horizontal chevy through which i'll go on there and see cream,
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which with the knots of the little too close to what are you with them? so let me put you on the do you, are you crazy? so hold on, went down to cisco for the right to none, the zip on the hosting. oh, when you look through the corner of the moment. okay, that's good. but there are other, more practical reasons to do this. it's not just an attack on ukraine for the russian leadership. such a policy is important to send messages to russians. this represents a very powerful way to say that we are saving these children from purported nazis. that is really the heart of the program. you can see that they're proud of it and they're communicating publicly about it because that's the goal. this is really a performance for a domestic political audience. and people have to understand that this is not a secret operation. this is a public relations point on the core level for the ukrainians, systematic child, kidnapping,
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for the russians. it says your military and operation. before observers, it's a hostage situation. the most disastrous thing in a way has already happened, which is they take the kids and why is that so catastrophic? well, now russia has leverage, as they have leverage that they didn't have before in terms of any prisoner negotiation or negotiation. about cessation of hostilities, they took the kids and that is a fundamental leverage whether it was intended or not leverage strategy is now available to the russians. and they know that the so what can be done to get back here to have disappeared into the russian system. in most cases, there is little hope. there is no system in place and no official cooperation
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between the ukrainian and russian side. finding the children is the 1st big challenge. most have no way of communicating with their families, and authorities often move them around. and even if like victoria did, parents know where their children are, they have to go get them. and this is usually only an option for mothers because men not fighting age cannot leave the country. victoria have to go from sun to crimea. usually they would take 4, maybe 5 hours of driving with going directly is no longer a safe option. she had to travel through ukraine, neighboring poland, cross into russia, a line bela roost, and then through enemy territory, about 3000 kilometers in total beach way, the
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back home victoria arrived on this bus with her daughter katya. there too, of a group of done the journey together. the nazi i did not know her mother was coming for her for victoria and other mothers could only do this with the aid of the n g o save ukraine. the help with the logistics passports, buses, and navigating the borders the provide your book on this note since last month for the last couple weeks on the same ones when you send them to the car, the for the finance, for mazda, of the premiums,
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as well as to the issue was victoria and kind of jo pillows, getting the kids out of the camps was not an issue once the mothers with hair, but the forehead teachers had told katya a very different story. because i love the way the motion will show a national motive. put together the vision. what was the mazda posse display is involved with the kids here tell us that the camps weren't all that bad. they were not treated poorly, they say, but they were not allowed to go home. or even talk with their parents. these girls think they know why there's
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a petition on the bus is a person of variety of coverage. you can put somewhere somewhere. it's interesting said the man to help him leave has a different theory. it's ross and strategy for children is who suffice. ukrainian children. that's why they no need to be them. and torture them. it is a child. the child's brain is so flexible. if you, every day feeds via a brain of your poison from your propaganda poison. and during one month to month, this child will say, oh russia is maybe not bad. it's via strategy. to date save ukraine has managed to facilitate 96 returns, but they're getting increasingly difficult. and the adults can look to see the numbers with different vendors. the
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middle of the news was just looking for the purpose of a lot of the content and it's sort of course not to buy. and so do you understand? they have instructions not allow the children go home. yeah. jobs during this and mission. the recognize the they trying to block any returns to crane. you have the same documents, official representatives, mothers bought the towing step of things that oh it's forbidden. what to go back with the, with your parents, the child know if you cross the border into rush or you cannot go back this and g o and the ukranian authorities are working hard to get back the stolen children like these, with they know without. but there is an unspoken issue, which is making things difficult. the fear of stigma means some families are too
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scared to report their children missing and they could be lost forever. is one of the, the, the critical things that need to have happen right now is that in many cases, the parents are most worried about the reaction in ukraine to being seen as a collaborator in terms of having sent their kids initially in some cases. and also worried about being seen as a collaborator in terms of going into russia to retrieve their children. and so there is a critical role that the ukrainian government needs to play at the level of the president and the senior leadership of the government of ukraine. the transport administrative mutual collab january said that the massive duction of
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ukrainian children was one of the most i'm the reported issues of the war are but a lot has happened since then. investigations have not only led to 14 and level the level of being indicted by the international criminal court. other russian officials and members of the ukrainian occupational forties have also been sanctioned. vacations are serious. with the russians call evacuations. the lenses could be considered inactive genocide. russia is almost completely isolated from the west, like many other countries, home to around 2 thirds of the world's population are either neutral or russia leaning jail investigator. nathaniel raymond says the duck tunes are clearly against international law that if anything was needed to prompt undecided countries to condemn russia. this should be, it is about weighing a marker on the table for the international community, for those countries that have not yet denounced the child abduction program and
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have not yet in down to denounce the russian evasion of ukraine. and i think that is powerful in terms of creating diplomatic leverage on russia to change course and gets the criminal shows no sign of change. of course, the you investigators say at least 2 facilities and rush are giving teenage ukrainian boys military training. 14 and level below, as i say, the program will be expanded if it's proven successful. the concern is these children could be sent back to ukraine and force to fight their own. the war against ukraine has been going on for well over a year now. allied countries have become increasingly involved each time western countries took another step to help you print against russia. the questionnaire rose. how to avoid provoking putting out to prevention from doing
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something, even worse than what she already started for thousands of ukrainian families. the russians have already made their worst nightmares come true. as they took the kids, [000:00:00;00] the german winning offer is available and for every language learning german has ever been simpler german to go.
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the . this is dw use like from the, the, in a surprise appearance from the ukranian president, a neighboring both of us. but now the e. u. hopefully savanski is one of the around 50 european leaders meeting day to

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