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more than $400.00 degrees at one end of the system inside the earth and less than 40 at the surface. a promising result. because a big temperature difference within the system is what's needed to create electrical voltage that us yes. how those things to be efficient? these exchanges we've designed, we can transfer the heat directly into the modules and converted into energy to come in bit and then exist. yes. hopes are high here at the testing ground, and alonzo realtors, tim, on fi on national park. that in a few days precise, they don't, we'll show that the new system to generate energy. and volcanic regions actually works. how does he get this energy that we draw for the year? it is available. $365.00 days, 24 hours a day. yeah, i did receive the cindy single. yes, we want to use it to cover the hundreds of millions of the national parks facilities. the mean so that we can dispense with fossil fuels given today because most people are forcing us a high temperature difference between the surface and 2 meters below it. and the

plan to that generates electricity from it. day and night. volcanoes hold the promise of an exciting way to harness renewable energy. let's take you over to was low now to this into educating against on opportunity to discuss issues as to be prepared pro summit in the news in july. we had a good constructive discussions on the our vicious agenda. we will take decisions for the spring or the turns on defense agree and new defense investment. a pledge with 2 percent of g d p on the fence, us the minimum, and the deepen our partnerships with our partners in the in the pacific region. our focus today was on how we can bring ukraine closer to nato where it belongs nathan, so they're providing and present the assistance i'm calling for them to that's

ukraine and forces. now i have the capabilities, they need to liberate more occupied land. but we need to do more. we're working on the multi year package of support with robust funding. this will ensure ukraine's to turns on defense for the longer term help rebuild it, security and defense, the sector, and transition ukraine from so with era adopting a equipment and training to full instead of portability with natal. or we also discussed of creating the existing nate through ukraine commission to a new nate, the ukraine council. this would be a significant step to establish a joint consultative forum with ukraine sitting at the table as equals to discuss key issues for our security. we also address the ukraine's membership

aspirations. all ours agree that naples door remains open. that is only for allies on ukraine to make decisions on membership restaurant does not have a detail on, on licensee that ukraine will become a member of nato. and we all agree that the, the most important thing now is to ensure that ukraine debates us as suffering an independent states. we don't know when the war ends, but we must ensure that when it does, we have credible arrangements in place to guarantee ukraine security in the future and to break the rest of the site to of aggression. we had a good discussion on all these issues and i'm confident that we will come to consensus by the summit in venice. i'm also working hard to ensure that so

sweden's accession tonight is completed as soon as possible i. i spoke to preston. i was around earlier this week and attempt to travel to, to you in the near future on the wall, calmed up sweden's new guitar is the time some noise have come into force today. that shows a that's reason has delivered on what they committed to do under the tele, throat memorandum. come through the last year in hundreds and demonstrates that sweet sweet succession will contribute to, to alliance security. and with that, i'm ready to take care of questions. the 1st row my goal is with the wall street journal. thank you very much for the question. you said you're confident that you will reach consensus by the summit, but how confident are you that you will reach a consensus that won't disappoint ukrainians? nobody is fighting and dying for inter operability or going from a council to

a commission. and 2nd, if i may, there's been some so nascent discussion of a possible what's being called a peace summit before the nato summit. are you aware of any of that? is there any discussion of that? thank you. the 1st and foremost, the most important thing for nato and of course for ukraine is to ensure that they win this award on the, on the, on the, are providing on present the level of support. and at the meeting today on the summit next month, i'm opposite to certain that the main focus will be on how to sustain. i'm step up the concrete uh, media type support to crane with the equipment, with a munition, with, with the, with spare parts, with everything they need to be able to liberate more long. i'd say that because um we, we, we do need to be extremely focused on that. and also knowing that or the last uh

weeks uh, lots of stepped up. uh, not only delivering heavy and armor, uh, mold and buckling things, but also they're not picking them. um, a house deliver to long range cruise nissans, which are making a difference on the battlefield. and also allies have an, i have not an onset that was thought to training all the pilots, the on to be able to fly, if 60 and another of naples down the croft. so of course, this is the main focus. this is the most urgent foss, this is what you have to focus on every day. and of course, your training and stay, they are calling for more of your mobilizing and mobilizing more support. because it will be a tragedy for you, for your crane. but it also be the thing just for us. if presence i put in a window in ukraine, it, it will make the world more dangerous. it will send the message that went in full to, to tide and leave this use meter for us to get to what they want. and that's also make us more vulnerable. so i say that because i understand, of course,

that some of these more long term issues related to reforms interoperability, it transition from. so it's a standard to naples standard is not perhaps the most urgent task, but there's not, there's it not this for 2 reasons. it's not, there's pointed because 15 kate's long term commitments sending a message to moscow that pressed them to it and cannot wait those out. uh well, i believe that that they must go they, they, they think that democracy is and they see that we are ready to, nope, not to stand by ukraine for as long as it takes. and we're going to prove the opposite, but demonstrating that democracy is actually able to stand up for their values and be there when they are needed to defend democracy unfreeze on us. we do want to support the ukraine. so these more long term efforts, the multi year program of implementing the transition from sort the nickel standards it, it's 10 semester. it's a long term commitment,

which is important. the 2nd, the interoperability is a month this for the more for the term because it is a challenge, this logistical challenge, that there are some of the systems, some of the different types of width and some of the different doctrines. at the same time on your credit and side. so this is not reward electrician award. patricia is a by logistics on to, to, to help us we end up popular logistics. everything we can do to make the crane and forces more interpretable. and at the end, the fully interpret baldwin that the forces it also actually have a more short term effect on the ability to win on the battlefield. so, so that for me, there's actually no contradiction between being focus on that urgent need for me to tech support on the more long term commitment. also because the long term commitment sends the message to must go thought the preston 50 cannot wait those out of this. of course, everyone as well as we welcome

a ford. so to find that it's a peaceful solution, but of course uh, we support the ukraine in addition to the problems before we buy it by the, by preston to so let's get on. i will leave it to do it for since then. scan to the ukraine is the side, the form us on the conditions when a piece talks on the, on the, on political a dialogue. and okay, you said i vote from the noise from both costing corporation at the beginning of this war. when the nato countries started to, to the weapons to the ukraine authorities, it's also important that the, the weapons were not long range. and that there where they were handled on the condition that they were not targeting russia on russian territory.

now aust, uh what's your reaction to possible ukraine attacks on russian soil? your answer is the, the ukrainians has the rights to defend itself. there is a change of tone and walk has changed. this is what i'm saying. the message is the same that we support your claim about the type of support we are delivering has changed us. the world has as the war has changed. so as to the warehouse involved, also the type of support comfortable in the beginning. the focus was mainly on the lights on to tank weapons and lights or a weapon systems then gradually removed into delivering heavy artillery. uh then uh, uh, not only lights on the, on the,

on the on demand how as of in a different systems, but also more heavier, advanced a different system, select the masons on the, on the patrons. and then uh, after some more months we went into delivering also different types of or hurt including the uh, the made them monitors on the, on the, on the, on the, on the different to the different types of the, on the personal carriers. uh, that's have proven to be extremely important to not also heavy armor unbuckling things. so yes, you're right, that's the type of support has enrolled, but that's reflects that the war has a hold on that to. and that's we have to realize that's actually why delivering more advanced weapon systems and the ukrainians are able to defend themselves against all these different air attacks. but also it's actually used to a heavy armor that henry uh, the harm ours. a tool certainly bridge more land but, but the for the match, the message is the same. that nathan $8.00 on pocket to the conflict we,

i help ukraine to defend itself. that's right in front of you and talk to and will continue to support your brain or pulling by reuters to thank you. so because the board was roger's secretary general, could you tell us where the ministers have agreed to hand to crane in really is any kind of a roadmap for me to accession. and you were talking about the framework of security guarantees. um, could you work out a little bit on that one? uh, who should uh, issue the security guarantees and when today take effect. thank you for holding this was on informing me thing. we didn't make any decisions about we discussed, and it's always used to have all the allies and also suite in the wrong uh, the same table actually with a little table sitting there and reading about about about to have an informal discussion. what it, what it means is that something reading from mountains gets dr. we're having an open exchange, helps us to improve understanding of where we can find consensus,

how we can move forward. and again, 1st of all, they will agree that's and it was always open that your training. look, i'm a member and that's when i draw, as i know for a shot to decide when that will happen. and they're also going to also send the canvas will need to focus on the urgent task to ensure that you provide the necessary support to maintain support, to cancel your training and for days. then i think what the older utilize, but we still have work to do. we still have consultations before we can make decisions. is that the wards are unpredictable. no one can say how when, when this war ends, because they do know is that when it ends, we need to ensure that we have the frameworks in place to ensure that this is not the polls in a pop band of russian aggressive actions against that you claim because the war didn't start is over at allstate, texas bought it in 2014 with a 1st come young and a tone of the went into don't boss. i need to to, to, to, to,

to stop this vicious circle of aggression against ukraine. um uh, because we need to be sure that's what happens all through some kind of and that's a rashaw, reconstitute the rest and then regroup, and then attack the game in some months or some years uninsured. that's actually stop it there. uh, we need to provide long term military support. ukraine. multi ed programs us we have discussed about also look into what kind of a frameworks that we can establish to, to provide the necessary you're going to use a that's of a present. putin is all day, but once again to attack ukraine, the details how this will be done. uh, what kind of mechanisms that remains to be designed good. but the idea of proven being history from a repeating itself preventing press them to it in uh from

a continue to be able to ship away up to, to being security. that's the aim. and then we discuss the means to, to achieve that. so you decide you to mr. secondary and then according to your trip to ankara more concrete, which day will go dust the president, add on, noticed that you will come and we'll try to go that together. what is what is probably going to start and perhaps even with a permanent through the senior. thank you. well, i'm invited by the preston so so, so dollars ball. so now looking into the practicalities on the exact dates, i spoke with him 2 days ago, president of the room on the, on one of the things for them. i agree that the, that i should go once again to cut off. i, i, i went there also this full a to actually stumbled to spend some days there to, to,

to, to discuss how to make progress on the, on also different phone calls. i mean, things hoss enabled us to, to make progress party. first of all, actually it to make have a decision in, in, in june last year to invite a pin and i was reading which was a big decision i, uh, that's, we all made together also a presence out the wrong a last summer. since then i haven't been colson, compelled, constant contact with the political leadership, and i'm cut off most off. uh we have this permanence mechanism that meets also a regular day on the on. and then we agreed on the way forward also to ensure the, the application of vin number a no, there has been a few of the of elections in turkey. so done, the contacts have not been so close and so intensive. but since spelled addiction is over, i think it's important to then restart to do the dialogue on the process. the time is for me to go alone, but the offices are not to will be able to inform us also to engage with the

swedish political leadership. and of course, we also stay in very close contact with a stuck on other spoke with the swedish foreign minister here to the the and they don't mean to stay at all. and of course it will stay in close contact with them. so you don't have to use agency i think you'd be not sure i'm not gonna use agency secretary general yesterday, you strongly condemn the case that a light lunch, but today the dpi, dpi, case said rejected those criticism, insisting if i quote it's the right to self defense of them. and do you have any further comments in this? and if i may ask another one at the video somebody, what can we expect to be discussed in terms of stuffing a cooperation with the in the pacific, but this thank. so i strongly condemn uh, the uh, minnesota south lights uh, launched by uh, north korea um, using,

i bought a stick and beside technology. this blatantly violates a central un security council resolutions its fits 2 neighbors on the, on the challenge. so 2, uh, global uh, stability and the of course this longs erases. so tensions um the pulse as soon as it relates to the security of the region and the own on it's a very clear beach of a different u. n. a solutions i need to call, so north korea or to seize these for what kind of actions and to return to dialogue in order to achieve sustainable piece that completes on the verifiable deed and the presentation of the korean peninsula. we stand together. uh, we have the articles, partners in the region of the republic of korea and japan. and as you may know, i missed the japan on the, on the, on the political career. and also

a long time ago on the message day was that the security is not the regional security is global. what happens in nature? i'm not this for europe, and what happens in europe, not this for 4 or 4 or for a shot. and therefore, it is even more important. nothing they dollars are the strengthening, our partnership with the or in the pacific partners. for the 2nd time in history will have all the needs are so the, for a specific partners, i will start them to see it on japan. south korea, attending our summit in the, in the news on the, on the and also seeing that the, there has been a, a, a request to have a need for the also him office. and we are looking into the possibly doing establishing this office. we will take the final cushion from vacant as you've been watching the life sized confines from then a week and capital way. nature chief insulting book has been addressing the price and addressing the issue of the board. you claim with foreign ministers at the alliance. the w bronsels bureau chief alexander phenomenon is also at the summit in

those like alexander, we just saw nato secretary general self book saying that old allies are in favor of you print, joining nato in the future. but is nato really united on this a? well, i think of what we can say is that allies are in that united that ukraine should join need to one day eventually once the war is over. but there are still not on the same page on what said they could offer a key if right now. and we know that the cleaning and president will of the me, the lensky has been a deadman and has been demanding a concrete road map to membership. even though the war is still raging and the discussion about that is still ongoing. and i just heard from the polish for administer, for instance,

who told us that there are still 2 camps there. a, some, the 2 countries are in favor of giving you create this kind of road map to accession. others are more cautious and of course the old hosting and the installs that said that he is very confident that they can agree soon on that issue . because as you know, leaders will be coming together at the beginning of july for a summit in building use in lisa in. yeah. and they would like to have an agreement by then they would like to have something to offer to keep. well, it in saying that we need to have, or nato needs to have a plan in place. once this war ends, you seem to cause some uncertainty in that he went on to say, when will we know that it really is over?

because this will began back in 2014, in the not just the full invasion on the 24th of february 2022. and will we really know if it's just a, a short temporary cease fire of types? when will we know that this war is i can to tell me more about whether or not that causes uncertainty for kids or whether or not we do have a strong message being. so said he, by against don't well, what, what he said to eventually is that they are hoping to be able to send a strong commission because of course they want to crane to keep on fighting. they want to booster more all. but at the same time, as you just stressed, it was, are unpredictable. that is why some nato countries are so cautious. they want to support ukraine, but they are cautious. they don't know whether they could offer anything of

substance. know, in terms of a roadmap to accession, that is why there are other proposals on the table and what struck me and also the was that so many foreign ministers a we're talking about the possibility of providing q crane, which secuity issuances with secuity agreements that could help you create and get the weapons they need to get the technology they need to defend themselves and to win this war. so that is something that is on the agenda. this proposal to provide you queen, would secuity agreements of from individual need to countries that it's something that could also helps ukraine a to go into potential talks with russia at to having that per hand to there. and of course, the most pressing issue as the installs back pointed out,

is now to how to crane when this war and to prevail as an independent country. okay, so it's more about the security pledges uh to, to give the key the up ahead. if does come down to tulsa at some stage or negotiations with most go, because the promise of a membership in the lives one day isn't something that's going to stop moscow is it um, but at the same time, this urgent need of military support installed, but the thing this was a war of attrition. that it is a battle of logistics. that is also another place signal to most of that uh, ukraine has the support of the west. well well yes indeed. and not very important topics that to the foreign ministers are dealing with is whether they are willing to provide to creating for instance,

with western made fight to jets. that's on the agenda. they will start training to create in pilots on those a fighter jets and we can see that once the training is over, they will be willing to provide those fight to james jets to ukraine. okay, we're going to have to leave it there. thank you very much. for your live coverage, alexander phenomena for us in life, at that meeting and foreign ministers from nathan. a reminder of our top stories here on the w news. depending on president florida, mr. lansky has addressed the summit of european leaders in both of us. discussing security concerns in the face of russians ongoing depression as, as the russian forces launch. and now the aerial assault on ukraine's capital killing at least 3 people about 10 foot wounded in display space on strength, which demons times is pressure. coming up out, tech shows shift looks at how gadgets helping people with disabilities. i've been

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