the, the dw is leih from the and then a lot of them is it on ski, makes a surprise appearance and neighboring moldova accidentally 50. your family is from inside and outside the you meet to discuss security. the face of the rest is for on ukraine. also on the program, at least 3 people that kills in the latest russian that strikes on the crating of capital. on the meaning of foreign ministers in south africa is overshadowed by

questions about the body may have posted. will types of rad 50 attends of somebody that informs the until again welcome to the program. ukrainian president, following me as the landscape has joined the navy, 50 other european leaders for a summit in most over to discuss security on the continent in the face of russian aggression. one of the states goals of this meeting of the european political community is to send a strong signal to moscow unto underscore support for multi purpose aspirations to join the a you. although the water is that it may be rushed us next target if moscow wins the war in ukraine. although the received a you kind of, it states us alongside ukraine last year. the speaking of the summit, president savanski side, he's country needed a clear path towards membership of nato on the well,

there are no security guarantees. there are only war guarantees we haven't sure about the possibility of the security that lies between china bloss need to bloss ukraine. but we need peace, we need just peace. that is why every european country that borders russia and that does not want russia to jerry, that bart should be a full member of the you and need to correspond with bands we get is at the summit . i asked him what's to that most for the most impressive result of this summit, it's informed the summit is actually this strong display of the dirty and held for your cream. all of europe is here, actually, everybody's present russia and below roof and everybody is saying the wall is wrong . we support you create as long as it takes. this is the very strong signal from

most of the 2 most coal in minutes. and also the atmosphere here is a little bit awkward. you could say because it's a very nice big, serious winery on the 20 kilometers from the country that it's a struck by this of war. and also my son do with the host admitted that this is a very stock contrast actually of mulder's position. he's quite as interesting, we'll just talk us through where it stands in relation to the e you and to night, to a boat load device on a fast track into the you actually in only 20 months and model one. so gee, for the rest and balkan countries have taken a to do for 20 years now actually. so most of a in is reforming very far as the notes of the you commission is admitting that is actually achieving many things and making progress very fast. so moto is hoping to have the accession talks already at the end of the year,

and the president of the european parliament already said she's also for it. so maybe the model is of a table device overtaking. actually the best and balkans that it's the key it did in normal circumstance that this would not happen, but it's due to the war circumstance of cause that modem and also ukraine on this fostering approach, you know, and where is moldova in relation to nature, what model uh does not apply for nathan membership. it's in trying to the constitution that motivates a neutral state. but you create of cause once to get into nature as fast as it can . but it's also clear that the nature was not to take in ukraine as long as the voice is going on, but at least the rest, the leaders are now think about security guarantees. that means that some states, like funds in germany could guarantee and

a more support for ukraine when it comes to military, short of nato membership and short of this article 5 guarantee that we're having in the nato and 3 d. so this is talked about and it will be also subject to updated variations next july, even ne, to meets added summit and videos. so this process is going on so quick, but then on the chance is, what do you reckon the chances are of ukraine and rolled over jumping to q a, had a western balkan countries into the a u. but i think of the progress in those countries remains as it is, they will be foster, at least as a, as a. so it'd be uncomfortable. we just do not resolving their own internal conflicts, maybe montenegro and north macedonian albania of, of joined together. then with ukraine, the mold over if we have to wait for the report of the commission to progress reporting for the you wouldn't have been having a roadmap to accession in the next years. thanks a lot bad to

a bad vigorous in moldova. thank so much rushes defense ministry says it has prevented an attempted cross border incursion from ukraine into the russian vision of the best world and report leaving new dish and reported renewed shelling of the area from ukraine traveling. it says subject design. rockets were used in the attacks. the regional governance has at least 8 people injured during walking, cold and interrupting shelling of the top of should back in to more of a house. when a drug crash, presidents have been moved to temporary shelters. this was no independent press verification of this attack. i asked the russian list constitute a good if he was convinced that is it actually happened? yes, it did. the, the russian versus the actual meat is basically bursting with footage from the town i should make, you know, where it seems like some very serious selling happens. uh,

some of residential buildings. uh, definitely hit. but it seems that the main element of uh, the attack. well, the main focus of the attack was the, uh, the blocks which produces artificial set far is which are used in set high tech production. and it seems that goes in minutes we production. so this seems to be the main uh, target of the tech at the same time. uh, there are lots of, lots of footage of people actually being investigated and finding themselves in other areas of the builder of the region. because it's just basically not save there. so yes, there was an attack, there was, there was no claim, a specific claim of who did it. although the just hours before it the, the, the so called a free russia legion that has already crossed into belgrade almost a few days ago. i said that we did it,

and we're going to do more of these across the board in commercials. so it seems that the tax was, was coming essentially from the south to the north based going to interest. and so what is russia likely to do to defend it now, as well as that? there is not much you can do a part from testifying the showing of the ukrainians. because i'm sure that uh, the, the launches that it seems that it was a combined attack by drones. and besides, the launch was, will be removed. so basically it's not the most stationary positions to ship as far as i understand. so you'll see just more of these showing of civilian areas, any crime that that is for sure. uh at the same time it is quite embarrassing for like recruiting events such things don't want to. it's happening in southern brochure with, well basically very troubling regularity. and so they will have to tackle it in

such context. a text continue, though they call just pretend it doesn't have. and this brings me to my next point barely. do you think these attacks on russian territory are likely to sway a russian opinion about this war? a one way or the other as well. you know that so if i knew uh or if i claimed that i knew i would have been pretty so yeah, i think this not going to be an immediate effect. uh gosh, a huge country. people living basically, uh, the same tulip, which is less than a 1000 kilometers to the north, can be bought. but don't god, that's the nature of things. but over time, research can to index continues if it's more regions impacted by them. it's going to change, but it may 1st sway into anger against ukrainians. people in russia comes in so a lot and lost both of them are convinced that rushes for i think. and just so i think the initial results where will be

a basically more anger of more desire to obtain a gipsy grain. so that's good. that's what done happened. although i'm sure that some will give, we'll take a polls and think about what really happens. but if this is a very complicated thing, it never happens overnight. it's never one dimensional fax that comes between russia unless constantine i got this is a good civil stores making headlines around the world. the nature of foreign ministers meeting in norway have told you trained that the door to membership of the administrator lines remains open. meeting also discussed the need to guarantee you claims that future security. once of all with russia is over. the germany's foreign minister says that can be no further discussion of you cried your membership until the little stripe is most decorated soldiers has left the land, bach defamation case against the major newspapers accused of war crimes. then robert smith assumed the papers following their reports in 2018,

which the legs that had been involved in the murder of 6 on christmas in scottish town. the judge rules of the papers approved the obligations was substantially true . protest isn't the police have clashed a backup after sending out a physician lead. it was meant sancho was convicted of corrupting views. so who was sentenced to 2 years in prison, but a quickie them charges to break and making death threats is support this side of the charges of government. point to the bay of these cabinets, the se, in next easy election. the war and you cried time. the agenda, as far as the benefits from the bricks group of nations got in the south african city of cape town. still, on spite of brazil, russia, india, china, and south africa will also have discussed the admission of new members. 6 great side global influence on the countries that foreign minister and the later upon to welcome to the russian count pod. so guy laughed ralph, but there is uncertainty of

a weather. vladimir putin will be welcome and fix heads of state beating. johannes, back in august, russian president is the subject of a war crimes. a rest warrant issued on the international criminal court. corresponded provision was found a heavy use in cape town. i asked him how big a shadow the russian presidents, potential august visit was caustic of the meeting, or it is suddenly cost a big shadow on this meeting. i think proceeding this meeting, there's been a lot of exchanges and you look at what so that's again the government has done to cuz it's a lot of that is going to be giving diplomatic immunity to or delegates that are going to be coming to the breaks on each come august, there's been a lot of debates, the, even them all positions empowerment here. yes, even filed a court action. you know,

to compel the government not to allow presence with you to step one. so that's against allows you have also that ramping up sofa and push out on the government by a observation we have signed up for more than half a 1000000 signatures. to also put the pressure on visits by the russian president in august. so a set in this meeting is an old being overshadowed by the 12 or 5 not allowing prison put to the but you see that these also an issue way that they use also supports things that i figure in terms ofa. people once the right direction present to be at the meeting, the n. c, government buildings, government and the old position puts a e, f f, have voice the support, and even seeing that the wheel is quite team from the airport to come to the meeting. so okay, they sit in the big shadow over this meeting, right?

and the oldest of course, is the around the water and you crying. and when it comes to that, one of the views of most bricks, men was a very different to those of us on his west and allies of their being any new statements or initiatives on the wall of the coming on. and now the meeting of the, of the, for the ministers, which was still going on. but what we see is elia on has that the so that you can for and mean is that when she met in address, she said that so that she got will not be bullied into bit down from having whoever they were invited to the meeting. they have said that deep romantic letters have been sent out is up to they will they now wait to hear with that present, we will be confirmed to be coming to this meeting or not. but the, the web is that's the as to the standing,

the ground that's present for me should come to this meeting. thanks for the privilege privilege. most fun here in cape town. just time to remind you of our top story. this out. you probably being present along to me is that asking as address to somebody, it's of your family does involved of discussing security concerns and the face of russia's ongoing i'll be back at the top of the hour. i've been a spanish a has the w use asia in just a moment. the every jenny is full of surprises. we've gone all out to give you some of the rain in.