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to be found at the deputy dot com, the brazil, russia, india, china and south africa. and they were 1st referred to as the bricks countries 20 years ago. at the time they all shared prospect and strong economic growth. but today, the mortar between these brakes is less about g d, p, and more about geo politics. russia's war in ukraine. it has revealed the fissures in the facade of global order. and we're seeing it this week as europe, the u. s. and need a valid to do more to arm and assist ukraine. money, weapons, even fighter jets, all made possible by the west. not by any bricks. i'm brit golf in berlin. this is the day the
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we have shown was 10 and unity at the time when disability your confidence, the son of the for that, every doubt to show here you are get it the range that the roster will definitely try to all combine as president of most of them, i know that easy to is not for you please. the resistance encourage my own country would be so that's in every european country that border structure and that does not one process theories, that part should be a full member of the you need to also it coming up. the age of artificial intelligence has arrived, the creators of a, i say, the technology promises to transform the way we work and live humanities future could be brighter, or it could be dark, very dark. if this technology goes wrong, it can go quite wrong. and we want to be vocal about that we want to work with the
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government to prevent that from happening to our viewers watching on tv, as in the united states and to all of you around the world. welcome. we begin the day with artificial intelligence. it has the potential to wipe out humanity. now that is the stark message from hundreds of a i, scientists, researches and tech industry leaders. they find a statement calling for urgent action to rein in the technology. you see it right here. it's not all long at all. only 22 words, and it reads mitigating the risk of extinction from a i should be a global priority alongside other societal scale risk such as pandemic and nuclear war. this is remarkable because of the creators of a i those pushing its development further. they are going public and asking the powers that be to regulate them, but which powers should that be?
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the european union in the united states are expected to draft a voluntary code of conduct on artificial intelligence. in the next coming weeks. it's not binding. voluntary will that work? we have this report invested or catherine type coordination and corporation united states secretary of state to recurring themes as the top us and you offer shows, discussed the digital transition at time you think of trades and technology console in sweden. the top of the agenda was regulating dr. personal intelligence technologies. so within the next weeks we will advance a draft of an, a i code of conduct, of course also taking the industry inputs, taking input from independence and then of course, invites colleagues to sign up for the draft. and in order to have very, very soon a final proposal for a code of conduct for the industry as committed to momentarily in the us. and
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you are hoping gutters with joining their efforts to rein in a i we had a very intensive and i think um, productive discussion on artificial intelligence today including generative a i, i think we share a conviction that the t t c has an important role to play in helping establish voluntary codes of conduct that would be open to all like minded countries. earlier this month to jew 7 leaders also called for a set of standards to keep a trustworthy addressing issues such as governance, transparency, and attract of this information. now brussels and washington are hoping their plans will be the 1st major step towards the larger comprehensive legal framework. oh my 1st guess tonight is roman young palsky, associate professor of computer science at the university of louisville. he is one of the signatories of the statement on
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a i risk. mr. nipples gets good to have you with us. let me ask you the vin number . what compelled you to sign this thing? why didn't you think artificial intelligence could pull pose and existential risks to all of us? a lot. i've been worried about it for about a decade. so it's really nice to see so many big names agree and finally signed on onto the same agenda. we have to figure out how to control this technology is becoming more capable at hyper exponential rate. it will be a smarter, smarter than us, maybe in the next iteration, maybe in a few years. and we have not done much to prepare for it. it's standard approach is for this knowledge it will develop and then later government tries to figure out how to govern that currency. so great example would have been going for the gate then only now we're starting to see some legislation to deal with that. we cannot
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afford the same mistakes with a i must of college will be transformative in terms of economy in terms of culture and possibly in terms of safety and security. i mean, i agree with you that the changes that are, that are coming that are happening now that are happening um, quickly, but i think for most people though, we're talking about a i the really the only contact that they can that's really tangible for them would be maybe, you know, with a chat box, for example chat g p, t. so how do we get from that to a, something a i that would be able to annihilate humanity. i mean, is there any time horizon there that you could imagine? well, we don't know what's going to happen specifically or how, but we already know that those checkbox, those large language models are capable of programming computers, the passing law exams, the best and medical exams. so in many ways,
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we already smarter than an average person scales. and that's only happened in what the last 3 years. so if we extrapolate that, i'm just imagining we've seen this incredible development in a very short period of time. of where do you think we're going to be by the end of this decade. i mean, that's a, that's a doable amount of time to, if you want to predict, isn't it, or is it, or all, you know, bets off and we're talking about a couple years ago. it used to be the people side, it will take 20 years, maybe a 100 years now that there is serious people, experts in the field with think it might happen in a year or 2. we shape it's not majority, but it's a possibility. the next iteration, gpc 5, maybe think of a point where it exceeds human capabilities. and as of right now we don't have any safety protocol, some place we don't know how to control such systems. in fact, we know that there are certain limitations in our ability to explain how large
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neural networks work, pretty things, behavior architecture, systems, all properly allocate resources to deal with people. and there are risks posed by a i right now that, that we can talk about and meet in the current state of development. we're talking about perpetuating bias. he's promoting this information. reading elections are just some of these possible risk. should we be focusing more on dealing with those issues now than worrying about the existential threat to the future as well. there's plenty of people who avoid it about the ethics of the bias. it has been a fruitful area of research for many years. it makes sense to allocate a portion of our research project, which is huge for a i people to be able to use the research to making sure it doesn't kill it. the one that seems to be somewhat important, of course, than they are, is bias. when somebody gets offended,
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it's also an important issue button in comparison to everyone being killed. it seems to be less important. i'm sure you've been following what's been going on in the news. the, the ceo from open a, i speaking a couple of weeks ago before congress. he's also been here in europe talking with leaders and basically telling the powers that be please regulate the industry that i'm pushing. so what needs to be done there? and if we want to regulate a i do, we know what that looks like. well, it's interesting, nothing stops them from self regulating to begin with. they don't have to do that next. the training are on right away and they can wait. they can encourage others to wait. i think part of this uh, a request for regulation from outside, maybe a business move for kinda limiting competition in some ways. it's more about self interest. if was a company's of us, what about what about the house?
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perhaps maybe it's a call for help, but perhaps they're trying to tell those empower maybe save us or save us. yeah. save us from ourselves because as you say, they're not putting the brakes at all on their development. i hope it is. so the problem is that the government solution governance is not a solution for technical problem. may i may be actually somewhat easy to plead once we figured out what needs to be done. it seems to be that 56 months after the big project succeeds, the hundreds of small projects which accomplish pretty much the same thing with a lot less resources on the small budget. so soon, maybe hundreds, if not thousands of different startups and individuals would be able to train similar models in terms of capabilities and simply making those things illegal. but creating paper work for accomplishing it does not solve the technical issues of
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this the college. and you are aware as many are that when it comes to regulating social media, national governments have failed miserably if there's a lot of cynicism in the public. now when we talk about regulating something that's even bigger than the social media, that being a i, where does that regulation? where does that infrastructure have to come from? do you think this is something that the, the national government should do? or is this a something that needs a global solution at the super, a national level to you when, for example, the ideal, it would be an international effort. because if i say legal in canada but legal everywhere else, it doesn't really help. so you want it to be a global solution since a, a is by definition, an international research project on the global commercial effort roman you have holes give, we appreciate you taking the time into talking to sharing your insights on this. it's, yeah, it's exciting. it's also very sobering as well. thank you. thank you. the
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law makers in zimbabwe have approved a controversial bill that outlaws criticism, but the country's government now the so called patriotic bill, which still has to be signed into law by president emerson. i mean, god, what has sparks fears of a potential crack down on descent. it was passed just hours after the government announced that parliamentary and presidential elections will be held on august 23rd of this year. and then god roy is seeking a 2nd term in office hire between now journalists have criticize the law as an unconstitutional attempt to muscle free speech and criminalize criticism of the president and his party. and they want to be seemed to be hard lateness. so they won this little side and there a few in the hudson of the products,
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the hearts of position eh, by using this bit low eh, eh, which has got me on the eve of an election. much of the outcry stems from one clause that criminalizes acts that quote, damage the sovereignty and national interest of zimbabwe, in extreme cases, violators and face up to 20 years behind bars. now the ruling xander party says that this is meant to encourage the people of zimbabwe to love their country, but civil society leaders, they are sounding the alarm here. the prominent journalist and active as hopewell should know, wrote on twitter a very sad day for zimbabwe today of that countries, parliament has passed the patriot act built into law. it seeks to destroy the freedom of association and assembly free speech is now dead and n, as in bob, were you holding a meeting with a foreign government official will be jail?
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the very start term is there for more on this law. i want to bring in now mr. 10 die the to the constitutional lawyer and a former finance minister in the government of national unity and her already. it's good to have you on the program, mr. v. to if f seems likely president, may god was signs this bill into law. what will that mean for freedom of speech and democracy in zimbabwe? it will definitely have a made just showing you fix the owners and by putting the citizens on there they, i've seen the opposition at one in g o. as there it was, cried the right to sort of association sort of speech. does it mean by why does it say that or do we use that to don't indirect. we different governments during the
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big ball test and we did for the, you know, you know, government and to, if you look closely at the law up situating, a conviction was a difficult but the good. so we can custom custody soon, which with less up to you is that the fix you for that is i'm talking to you right now. well, not about jobs kind of has been in prison since june 14th. let's see what was something that many people will know. you will not get convicted or so this is, it came down on the opposite should is it can don't. one alternative will be known . and remember to that this is coming in because the extent of the recently it, you know, passed the payment for the organizations x, which stops in that it was because you owe us from receiving, put in funding and so forth. so it is basically the musky listed on the democratic space. let me, let me ask you since, since it says that you're not supposed to bad mouth the, the government um, with a foreign entity. but let's, let's consider you and me, i work for an international broadcaster, you're in said bob,
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boy and you and i are talking and you criticize the government under this patriotic war. the patriot law. could you be accused of violating that lock? is you be put in prison for talking with me? it is easily distinct. say, you see if, if this, if you can see that if you're just taking this good to the proxy at all for the given government. definitely as if it fits into the, into the, into the bill. so when, so they say government or it or proxy, it overhauls the government that can mean energy that can mean energy. and so the definition these is it is white. and the, remember the d offense, easy everything. that's what you to just have a good 6 this opening doors and badly. yeah, that means that the i speak honestly about,
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let's say the quarter i've seen the must have what i've seen with this company will basically that fixed this over and i didn't fix it on my, i mean they don't, they had to, to, to speak on that isn't but what i would do right to could say that which is all but this look you said you can do is check your your mouth and then don't say anything about this and, and considering that you've got the government that has just announced elections will take place on august 23rd. do you expect these elections? do you expect them to be free and fair? quite clearly. no, i mean i've just come from, but i'm in the right now we, we, we stopped from that discussing amendments of electro tickets because the, our most easy. you come to pass the amendments and once it, because they don't want to put that to be simply elected to submit it is, you know, if this is a complete use that the defense tofal,
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it may 2023. so then order homes before the exclusive exercise has been symbolic, we use the hopeless anything. tonight, the rights to at least the people who's doing why did more than 63 or 4 meetings, if the band or position they meet as good. and just because i've mentioned a, i'm please on jekyll, be better for me. yeah, another opportunity that was deal fully is you weeks ago when you kind of get people to go to piece of food. demonstrative i is. i took it to you right now. i'm chasing a charge of it coming on, said c o 444. i looked to sell it to you and someone. and i've been getting good for over over over 7 the days. so we could claim them. it's it's, it's a 5 submit this with it, but that's about so we don't expect the freed felix individual. i just wanted to ask you last time around in 2018, the incumbent embers and been gone for one,
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just months after he had asked a long time. president robert mcgahey, i remember it. well, it was live on television, it was a palace to these and a party. it has been in power nonstop since independence in 1980. is there any chance for free, or is there any chance of the opposition winning this time without a doubt which i mean it is free and felix and we just don't. as you know, the evidence citizen wants to say that, but it citizen is suffering as i'm talking to you right now. you can switch them as close to a 1000 percent in the past 2 weeks. i don't, our covering seems quite upset by over there for 100 the, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, the same, this shortage of goods in the, in the markets. and some that exhibit you wrote it by extensive antiques and mismanagement. eh, eh, you know, you know, you know, you know, what sort of a 2 thirds of all people are living in the mix. simple,
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but to see if i'd be more less than you. is the one doing it $0.25 a date. well, the whole mediums and but means i would tend to just put a sticky dizzy. yeah, this is the perfect plus the go a, you know, you don't invited me to conduct the people what to for change if they were would for james. so we thought a doubt that if you have any problems that the election is about 10 minutes by dislike to read is not the editor it. so how do you do me that i does elections? i would use a really nice dizzy evictions. how do you create an environment that can get to the infinitive, terms of level in the place? yeah, and we will definitely be following the campaign. and that'll election in august mister 10 diabetes involved we and parliamentarian and constitutional lawyer. we appreciate your, your time tonight and your, your honestly thank you to the
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ukraine is waging to campaigns one to push back the russians the other to move ever closer to the west. today, representatives from practically every european country except belo. reese and russia came together in the small republic of mol, dover, to talk about doing more, more to arm and assist you, crane. and it's battle against russian forces, and to send a strong signal to the kremlin, that there will be no more expansion by force. the notion of russian expansion, a big worry and mold over many of the country, fear that they could also be a target, especially if russia wins in ukraine. grades president zalinski spoke to delegates today and will go over. he is confident of victory, provided that his forces received the weapons that they need, including fighter jet. so lensky renewed his call for ukraine to become a member of nato and the european news as well. there are no security guarantees.
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there are only wore guarantees. we haven't toured about the possibility of the security that lies between china plus need to plus ukraine, but we need peace. we need just peace. that is why every european country that borders russia and that does not want russia to jerry, that bart should be a full member of the you and need to with the word ukraine has a broad countries on both sides of the atlantic together. that is not the case though elsewhere. consider the bricks, group of nations that are gathering this week in cape town. south africa. brick stands, of course for brazil, russia, india, china, and south africa. no brakes member has joined europe in the u. s. and slapping sanctions against russia, could that perhaps explain why more and more countries say they now want to join bricks. expansion was expected to be high on the agenda thursday along with what to
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do about russia. on thursday itself, the advocates for administer welcome to russian counterpart survey lab problem. uncertainty remains over whether russian president vladimir putin will be welcome. when the break summit takes place in johannesburg in august, may remember, the international criminal court has issued an arrest warrant for the russian president is accused of war crimes in ukraine or the residents of ki. they are dealing with the after effects of yet another russian aerosol. 3 people died at least 10 were wounded in the missile strikes that damage, department buildings, a medical clinic and a border water pipeline, recent weeks, etc. ma scale watch almost daily attacks on the grading of cap daylight revealed another day of devastation for key residents of the night as siren seemed families rushing for safety and
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a pre don't want to attack. but not everyone was able to make it to bomb shelters. as intercepted, missiles dropped from the sky, defended suffice. every one was running to the shelter because people were trying to get in. but no one opened it. a rock or debris fell down and people were killed . was this isn't the i lost my why. he keeps me a seed investigations. what underway into why a medical facility bomb shelter in the area was locks debris, rain down during the bombardment, injuring and killing residents. young girl and her mother are among the date a lot. so they were run here to hide, but it was closed. unfortunately, we was tending outside. here's the medical clinic. i mean, there's the kindergarten. she felt just between them many key residents, a tired and anxious after weeks of sleepless nights,
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listening to the sound of sirens and explosions. this was the 18th attack on the capital. since the start of may, a waste and allies have provided you crane with advanced air defense systems and recent months, improving its ability to fend off bombardments by the kremlin team. see, to shut down old teen miss south launched by russia on tuesday. moscow has denied targeting civilians, but russia has repeatedly hit residential areas with a tex intensifying in recent weeks. so as of as well, the day is almost done, the conversation that continues online. you'll find this on twitter. you directly w news. you can follow me on twitter at brent golf to beep and remember, whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day. we'll see you then the,
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