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the to go into just to return the 17 to me. so feel free. it's one of the rich till we feel create the need seem to clear. and what about the confusion of a policy on china present? the macro says taiwan is your business. your of us foreign policy chief says it really is whatever happens to unity in the european union. shabby shout. welcome to come to thank you. let's talk 1st about the war and ukraine. if we may, for the past few months, has been very little movement on the battlefields of ukraine. the west, you included, has given large amounts of a weapons, but clearly not enough to move the war into us. direction. is the danger now that you are beginning to normalize a stalemate? is very clear that the, on the inside your determiners to do everything to football, to create a specialist return. and that you're absolutely right. it's a very tricky off of his thoughts on this. still the division launched by a rush,

so we decided to provide community to recreate. but this, the 1st time in your opinion is history that you took such a decision. and since then together we have a partner as our allies across the world. we provide to minutes are supposed to create, we provide financial means to ukraine. we help you quinn or support the my 3 sites . it's not enough to move though, is, is you, i just one of the example a few weeks ago we to the decision to, to, to get the human boosters to produce a munition. because we feel that is needed to strengthen our defense industrial business in order to speed up and you're absolutely right that it's important to do everything to, to accelerate efforts. this is really important that the uh, the ukrainians made the shows to resist the extremely true interest and is a tragedy for them. and this is what i would do to iris, precipitate is everything, return, you know, the to assist to, to support them. and of course,

the impressed with the relationship with the you at the moment, ukraine's foreign minister. dimitri could, eva has complained bitterly that the e u was failing to implement its own decision. i'm on the i munition to purchase ammunition for the country because member states, we're arguing over which suppliers, based with academics and since and sign a contract and things that statement made by them. so for the fact we had the opportunity to clarify with the pin authorities and you know, the truth was wasted. we are, we are entrenched and turn tact teresa prisons and winston and was the ukraine authorities. and i can, we assure you that the, the know that we are, we label friends and reliable thoughts. and they also know that this is that the magic bullet we do, and we seem to speed up taking significant political decisions. this is very clear that there's a story political choice on this is use i'd to, to, to, to,

to be active, you know, support through quickbooks that we've added to that they, we still imagine what faces we need to make sure that we really produce more munition in the weeks and months to come, this clip as deputy andre melnick says that wolf fatigue among you members is now the biggest challenge for his country. there's a feeling he said that now the tank issue has been settled. people can put their feet out. a lot of them still don't understand that the war is far from over. is he right to worry about the war for the in the, you know, it is very clear that we moved to convince our citizens across to you. what fix that is, the future of the european union, the future of our, our citizens, our security, our prosperity. but not sure if you looked at the situation in a few months ago, i'm absolutely convinced that the 14th circulation was the 14th,

wasn't impressed. simply change for the european union to stick to death, to be united in putting a discriminant by surprise. because we are able to stick together. we are able to have the support of public opinion across the working. and we were able to, we have been able to, to, to, to, to, to, to stick together with our northern america lice. and other part that's across to you say that, but your phone policy chief, you as a barrel said, recently forging, maintaining a you unity against russians. invasion has not always been easy. some states complained others disagree, but in the end we maintain the unity. so you've papered over the cracks, what, what could open those cracks up again, this is, this is very clear that unity, it requires a lot of effort. but the fax, all the facts we should be able for instance, a to fiction were shot. you remember that the a lot has been search on the summaries of, of

a sudden mentation. on the new side. we took the decisions altogether on 10 packages of sanctions and we are implementing these positions. so essentially, we are working all together to be like the international community on the international stage where i work in research, africa, within the past issues respecting america, you know, the, to explain to odd. you are the to try to print things. and sometimes you have to have the last one, sanctions come, i just, you know, make a point here, but you're still using vast quantities of russian oil supplied mainly by laundromat countries. these are countries that load into the oil for most go and sell it on to you. china, india, turkey. you a single pool? do you know about this? have a switch. look what vines, what was the russian or what? twice. what was the situation a few months ago and a few months ago, we were on the european so, brutally dependent on the russian force in fuchs. and only in a few minutes,

we succeeded to 3 decisions in order to reduce our dependencies and the doors to and those dependencies on the rest of the world on russian fussing shows. this is why do they? because this is very clear, why didn't you close this loop? does this, does this what we do? we are working very hard to close all the different loopholes with please, would you prefer the european union? nothing to position for very, to the supply of energy resources for our business, for our hostile, what do you prefer? the collapse of the european union? i suppose that there's not what so you are advocating for, and that's why we need to be reasonable to be russian and to be the time is exactly what we are doing. on the one hand, we do not through our long term strategy, we want to more renewable energy on the new side. we what we want to more independence in terms of the energy policy on the new site. and also to make sure that we defend our economic business. and if we just trend the social institution

of our citizens, you mentioned the risk of will for teens and you are right. these are important to look into the, to avoid being victim of sexual risk is free one to 2 to support the 1st citizens if it's important to demonstrate that you are working, you know, the also to overcome the energy challenges for instance. yeah. but if you want to do something about will fatigue, isn't it time for a clear explanation of the new strategic objectives for ukraine and russians? plenty of generalized promises we've heard from you. you told ukraine in february, the european union will support you in every way we come for as long as it takes a can i can i just ask the question, for as long as what takes, what exactly does this promise mean? this is very clear. and the way you are often the christmas interesting because so it show that i'm not exactly sure the windshield approach in our approach is nothing new which has to which makes it easy to, to decide when it to but you made the promise. please please let me see the

different features and try to figure tristan, i will, i will answer with pleasure. your question. we should have the ukrainians. they have the responsibility and just as a suffering transferring to the side when and the way in which elements in that you know, the to, to assist. when does each time to, to, to, to, to open a new, a new chapter. and that's why we all support industries for me, the developed and proposed by president, let me see. and it's why the also support this idea to have an, an international piece assignment, you know, the to defend the ukrainian position in spite by what we believe in the move to the, to an older, the boost international older. the thing we told you that integrity and solving to, of, to different to of, of, of nations. because the, what is the, you scared of russia? you said in february, we're not intimidated and will not be intimidated by the kremlin because ukraine and the u. r. family, but the truth is the west is very much intimidated by russia,

is that the only reason for not giving kids the weapons ones is your fear of escalation with ad and perhaps of new care conflict. and it needs to be treated. remember, at the beginning of the war launched by russia, this was important for us on the one hand to support your crew. on the other hand, not to be pots electronic, you know, the, to, to avoid any we still, 5th generation. and then it's very clear try to, to example of the nuclear weapons that we got this in the sun when we induce china, for instance. another 2 tons is domestic tribute to china in children's to be very fun and very clear. the news and even the threats of nuclear weapons is not responsible. and we need to do every, since you know that to me show it to not to be used when we support and your technicians in separation, for instance, another to prevent any resurface tradition. it shows that you are serious, we are responsible and again, the ukrainians. uh, people and then you finish activities. they know exactly what you are doing to know

that to help them to assist with moving the into this war, which may well define europe's security architecture for generations to come. and we're still not sure what the use objectives. uh so. so what is the big plan? because what scenario do you envisage it total frozen conflict? after all the killing and destruction of these 2 countries, i'm not going to just shake hands and be friends of a what, what, what's the big plan for if this war with this war finally comes to the plan and the promise of erecting interest is situated and prosperity and the situation seems to me easy, easy to paint and difficult to implement. you absolutely right. but this also what we do to in what we have been doing a full this is a across that you worked in 20 minutes. but it is very,

very clear that the what we face is a treasure that 1st for the you're creating people. so don't you test an impact on the fit you retain the prosperity to across the europe? and it's why i strongly believe is what we told us. try to show a ton of, of the what can i send it to this turn 50 is showing. that is really important to us in 3 different this trans 1st energy energy independence. i don't need to explain a lot to why just so we can put and, and this is obviously it was that the 22nd point you were in defense together with natal wishing natal. but this is very clear and we are, i think that's what we mentioned the fast under direction. so when some industry decides to reduce the investments in defense, we can see today we meet security tools. we need to try to tick abilities his needs between small trojan nation, the repeating level, and for 3 innovation. it shouldn't be that it's a guaranteed to persevere within these all the 3, the 3 major pillows and we have

a vision. why? because we found that the future of ukraine and was over, is we send you, this is a very clear message. we just have a clear plan for the future of the printer, the tenant and, wow, presidency. lensky is not getting all the weapons he wants, but what if you can stop losing? this was the contingency plan for that. what if russia against the old starts winning more battles on the ground occupying further territory? what if you wake up and it's too late to get, get to creating the weapons, it needs the ocean victory. it cannot be an option. and that's why we support new create. and i haven't just talked to you have your own impression about what we are doing. i can guarantee you with it or the methodist is old and you were to lead us . they know what to say when you're starting. you will not let a russia we are you, are you making that drum? this is so we clear it is what you're making that from. this is very clear that you do have, we think, you know, the 2 german team to, to restore the server into, into it, to feel create a user victoria feel create with the syndicate. however long now we take it now,

however long it takes that as long as it takes and i can return it repeated to several times. this commitment exports by 27 hit the 5th. i can tell you, i'll never forget to civilian motion. the moment the 1st virtual meeting we can do in a few hours of to start with the force and vision, the $27.00 you need us will run the same table. we spent function busted pace in virtually in the, to me since i came to the office office. we image, it says the seriousness, the importance of the moment and the twice, only in a few hours. we would be able to pick from them until this is in terms of support for you. quinn infections against russia. you've spoken by from to ready to put in over the course of the last year. if you had to pick one concrete result from the conversation from the discussion, what would it be that when a headphone processing after the start of the forest here, like very start the point when i had to do it those photos we had to choose and to

to focus on some human to and shows you sent, i can give you an example, one color creatures. obviously this is a, this is very important to know some shumate through agencies. uh, the request for instance. and what's interesting categories this organization to make sure that they would have access to some territories into the, to provide some support. second example of district of prisoners, very tricky after the start of the tours started through some international agencies on the sort of present. these are 2 examples, and in point 3 i, i think it's very important also uh to, to, to advocate because even when do we, so that was the principal. and this is why we are so committed to mature, to deal with different ability. there is no place we trinity, are you in the come to says we shouldn't humiliate missed the boot is on that was that i would use because this is very clear that the put in is fine to emulate

a big part of the was talking we so the ukraine's and you said you don't have much sympathy with mr. michaels. i, i just wanna talk to you with some new stuff that corporate i wouldn't as used to this uh, this, uh, this was uh, what is really, what is very clear. this is very important, also transistors, the west of the world. this is really important because we have our own vision and we, we, we have a very strong teeth, we have a fairly to incur pretty close to, to need to, to, to defend. and this is also the beginning of the european union, the murder, that's why the corporation, what this one team was doing important. also, transistors, effort to transition was fixing america between different in the past. if you change in the, in other words, you know, just move others in order to come to the russian food in full 4th directories and what, what are we rushing narratives as well? exactly what just the rest and the choice going on? because i really like to move on to trying to because badging has been awarded a lot of face time by european leaders. you yourself met sheets and thing. last

year, i was struck by your comment on the meeting when you said that both the e, when china have an interest in the rules based world with the un charter at its cool, is really given china is illegal expansion in the south china sea of the massive human rights violations taking place inside the country. it's korea, they're not working from the same. you enroll book as you are. so what i suggest as a common approach to the rules based, well when the clearly, when the truly is a for the 1st the 1st i, i strongly believe the move to the, to the post. i strongly believe in the the ring shop is one more question, but i will answer your question. my certain point is that i'm looking at it. we know we can observe that the china would like to set the international roof is worth the toilet. they put them inside by the same value that you have on your side for, for, for, for instance, nursing 3 points, you know,

relationship. we start with china. first, we will be always, always fun in predicting and defending the human rights. and the democratic principles is very clear and systematic. when i hit decision to told was the change of services i just to make your decision to, to, to, to explain our convictions on those questions. point 1.2 of consequences if you need to. we balance the attributes, relationship between china and the you appear in the union. and this is, this is the idea to the rich relationship, teresa, but you said you flex them with the tools and saying that they what you're interested in the say rules pay no, well this is nice. what does this not serious to you? is this uh well, just enough night. there's just nothing how i'm acting to switch out to you. so china and going through this for ya. serious on the new side, on the time of change you for us here. you so on some of those sit with the challenges we need to, to, to try it out. we need to engage with the china. it doesn't need that to you agree

on the all the stuff gets research china next to to kind of change, for instance, is really important to try to convince china to be much more active, to put in place a carbon pricing returns. and for instance, let's fix duffy's name to the stick to the 19 and, and sizes. so if we want to address those changes the future, we need to talk with them and we saw the increasing do a look. i'd like to come back to the issue of human rights which, which you stressed you didn't please everyone on your trip. 10 major human rights groups are in the sense that you've reopened what they called the meaningless human rights dialogues, with badging, which was suspended in 2019 after the u. sanction chinese officials involved in human rights violations fed up points by those groups, isn't it? because the thoughts so far have changed nothing and will continue to change. and i think you agree to talk about your agrees and talk about human rights. and they agreed to ignore how we'd like a discussion of that. i would like to us to refresh, do feel that the issue, what's the inverse? so essentially what's sent

a community from research on those tokens. we would actually some sense of some of the terms of the 2 with the chief notions. and this one is very important to reduce and for instance, i'm very pro i am engaged with. i was, i'm very proud. i'm very proud. it's after the meeting, we had this prediction in december. we've been able to, we launch this human wise delettre. we've been because he has autism for us to advocate to mention some concrete changes and to try to, to different, really different edition the human rights of print support and the democratic and without failure, results and use without any results. i, i fully disagree your friends. if i follow your approach, it means that the we would be more efficient by us to, into a here in brussel we saw the condition of course, fix time of quantity is difficult. i am not seeing that we are delivering to any one meet or even once and, but i am convinced that if you do not induce activity, southern determined, nothing is when we induce we open the door in order to do

a very simple. there is just very brief, are you the human rights groups of 10 major human rights groups? don't agree with you. a total. they say having a human rights dialogue with china cannot seriously being and in itself, they want to tell the high adult a local real human rights progress, including engine jobs, into banks. what would i do instead of this is a very central time because this is that what you're doing with the system. it's china. we are this, isn't we southern type of discretion. yeah. but can you point to a single aspect of human rights in china that these talks have altered for the better in the past? can you since surface 19 those thoughts with which on hold and we succeeded to we launch uh those before before. yeah, but that seems 319, it was uh, a put an old in, in, in, in tulsa. and we are good, we are, did a political, a space of funds to look to industries though. so was this was a century on all the top piece that needs to be discussed and evaluated by the way,

before my trip to, to china i, i had to have chosen to meet me. we present 50, so to do some advice to organizations. and it was really important didn't for me to listen to them and to use also arguments that the, that the share earlier this year china played host to francis present macro, who took a bunch of business with businessman with him design tre deals. and then decided to open up the risk between europe and the us over taiwan. the great to risk your faces, he said, isn't gets caught up in crises that are not ours, which prevents it from building it. strategic or ton of me is good. the heights of irresponsibility to highlight divisions, video most important ally, america at a time when both russia and china have joined forces to a road human rights. and the rule of law to talk to is that there is a very clear, erect in position. a life is connected, stacy's very strong and very when you're over 4 digits, 6 timley,

2 point one important to untie one. there's also a very key or you would be in position. we do to fix it to defend, to you, to, to change in either to either way the state to screw of, uh, in that one story to point point one. uh and we are, which are nice the one china policy, this is the traditional erection pretty soon and nothing too is changed, which we do when your foreign policy chief shows that the public a slap down. let's see micro by say you members should actually deploy more ships to patrol the taiwan strait in order to deter page things, aggression, how you going to sort out these differences of opinion on china within the, you know, to do different things 1st and they said, proposing to meet that, usually people have to be the responsibility of the member states to distrust the focus. and he's the, the, the, that we're supposed to give it to you for just a bit behind to put some proposals on the table to point one. when i talked to you some important point in this of the 2 rows and,

and false is the reactive continue depression situation, which shows its forces so really insightful that the, for that the region. but let me tell you that i'm aware that uh, in depression and media, especially the reason to do so, always that there was an impression of a huge divisions, a on the european side, on china, under the impression trying to reel no descriptive unity. i always tell you because i think i know to be to what the sensitivity is in the, in the chelsea that i think i can take it in. that in fact we got much more conversions. and then we transfer them to, to me for the winter, which is the democratic debate we have in europe in the, in the, in 2 weeks to come. we, we have the occasion to, to clarify, into the coming position of china. we're going to have, in joint is my responsibility to put the talking to the agenda in the controls hill . this is a bit on, on china we, we are preparing the dispute at the new serial level with a different estate older with our office. and we still have problems with our

allies. let me ask you just one specific question, because we're running out of time. what's the use plan? if china invites tie one, what's the time you, you, the plan is to have, we seem to convince china not to matrix and this to. yeah, but if you file, what does that make sense? okay. what does this, does this plan? does this been implemented? uh, i was talking to us, we'll talk on the erection of a sort of very thing we're continuing to do. but in any, in any case, it was really meant the, the weights and just for the start of the war against russia. we worked in tools to a condition that was all with partners to do to assess what, what to be a reactions and we were, we, we do the same and we are doing the same so thought and it didn't prevent the nation. yeah. yeah. because in fact, you're absolutely right there was someone into cramming which who, who took the decision to stop a crazy was the criminal tool. and we have everything to, to, to, to make sure that the, when, when we, because it's our interest, right, show me,

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