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speak to a novelist in manila, the jared raid. welcome to d. w, and use asia. the you with the philippines and japan have begun joint naval drills for the 1st time in the strategically important south china sea. they're being held in waters off the baton province of the philippines and will last a week. they include maritime law enforcement training, and search and rescue missions. the nation's a boosting how they can walk right through to growing chinese as soon as they've knows by doing it claims launch maritime regions that overlap the exclusive economic science of all the nations, including the philippines is the us perspective on the drills. the more countries we have that are committed to the same ideals of a free and open indo pacific. the ability to enforce your

own nation laws and your own nations. what waters your own sovereignty, the stronger we can be as a team, the stronger those ideals are. and for it's pot, china send this message ahead of the drills. where you mean as the military relations between the us and japan, we always advocate the military cooperation should 1st and foremost be conducive to regional peace and stability. and non toggle home the interest of towed bodies b as well since taking office philippine president ferdinand macos junior has sought to deepen ties with seas. nations oldest ally to do with manila is also daring to stand up more when it comes to the security of its maritime territory in the south china sea. something that we covered on this side last month. here's a reminder. on the south china sea, a tense stand off comes to a head. a chinese coast guard ship stains directly in front of

a philippines patrol vessel. cutting off his journey toward the nearby spread the islands. the collision course set by the chinese despite earlier communications. in the relationship from china, we hope to operate with our do not take our appropriate behaviors, which we are here with the philippine ship was on its way to territory, claimed by manila in the sprightly islands claims contested by china, which claims full sovereignty over all islands. and features in these waters a fiercely disputed stance that's getting

a new push back from manila since taking office last june, philippines president 3rd man. marcos junior has insisted that china will not trample on philippines rates, etc. during a visit to basing in january marcos and his chinese counterparts, she's in ping agreed to a friendly handling of maritime spots the but just weeks later, the philippines accuse china, a blinding a coast guard crew with a laser light middle is choice to go public with the footage, a new strategy to confront chinese aggression on the world stage. marco says also moved to strengthen the philippines military alliance with the u. s. in april, the 2 countries held military drills which included the 1st ever live fire exercise on territory in the south china sea. a demonstration of joined by our power that's drawn beijing's i are now in washington. marcos was met with

a warm welcome from us president joe biden and a pledge of military support. united states, all 3 mines aren't quiet, nor remains. aren't cutting our commitment to the defense of the film including the south, tennessee, biden. and marcos said this commitment means honoring a decades old mutual defense packed closer security ties between the 2 countries have been in play for months. earlier this year in manila granted the us access to several additional philippine spaces and arrangement that spring. since the philippines defense capabilities and grants, the us a stronger foothold to counter what it sees as the biggest potential threats in the south china sea region. a possible invasion of tie one by china. we can speak now to don mclean, gil there was a g or a political analyst. and also based in manila don,

welcome to the w and use asia. i wanted to start off by talking about these 1st. evan joined coast cod drills between the us, the philippines in japan. this of course follows drills early d. c, between the us and the philippines. and the expansion of the defense cooperation agreement told to us if you could about the significance of this try lateral cooperation. so the involvement of japan. all right? first of all, thank you so much for having me here. you know, it's a true pleasure and you know, we have to 1st put this into context. so, you know, the nature of contemporary international politics is largely corrupt to rise by the concept of like mindedness, the role of state perception and the significance of meaning lateralism in the area of focus security arrangements. so strictly speaking and difference for instruct, a trilateral was for ready employees years ago. the given to days increasing convergence of reception between the leaderships in manila,

washington in tokyo towards the security and stability of the in the pacific. you know, all the countries are now seeking to maximize the utility of their strategic partnership and their input connected. that's so depends gronvold shipped to watch a more security driven foreign policy. and then the pacific miller's reinvigorated emphasis on territorial defense, maritime security, and washington's desire for us to enhance its role as a responsible security provider in the pacific, you know, has relatively provided a significant foundation and serve as a catalyst for all 3 countries to deepen district the partnerships further in terms of preserving the rules based or what we have to understand and we have to be very mindful of that. and, you know, the need to maintain consistency between all 3 countries will be necessary, you know, to be able to sustain such activities. because we have seen in the past that there

have been stirred attempts, you know, to forge a number of security arrangements that because of the role of consistency, the separation of perceptions of meters. they were short there. but this, i believe has the makings of a very consistent approach. so i want to sort of talk to a bit more about these drills that are happening and pick up on something that you treated last month. you, you right joint patrols will be in portion but not enough to to, to china is a symmetric strategy of salami slicing in the south china sea. could you explain what me, what you mean by that? right. fantastic. and thank you so much for asking that and you know, we, we have to understand china has been simultaneously a solidifying and strategic presence in maritime se asia, you know, had conducted military exercises recently. would allow, seem to, for, to bodya of this year in particular. and is stripped to also stand,

worshiped to multi lateral and able exercise hosted by individual. what do you know the current challenge towards the us hub and spoke system in the western pacific is kind of increasing to allow me and slicing activities. now, what does this mean, you know, without people versed use of military force, china has been able to succeed in its strategic objectives, not only in the south china sea, but also in the east, trying to seize, using a series of borderline strategies that include hard, soft and sharp power elements. so, you know, according to a 2020 to study by rad, you know, the philippines, vietnam, and taiwan in particular have become slight vulnerable to try to china's results targeted for allow me slicing. china feels that there is no risk for a cost of $4.00 degrees ordinance. allow me slice you to be these in the region. have the us alliance network must energizer efforts to words, an orthodox strategies as well. you know,

in addition to conventional defense capabilities, you know, other, a normative uh, you know, technologically centered activities need to be picking uh into consideration as well. a done deal based in the philippines. so i'd like to ask you a question about that. now the philippines is bordering to potential flash point areas, so the south trying to say on the one hand, anti one minute look is worried about china's intentions. the but it wants to maintain good ties we by using while also pursuing base are relations with the united states. this is a very delicate position, isn't it? right? but we have to understand again, the beginning of this particular administration. ludmilla already signaled as clear as intensive managed relations with china and to forge i'm able ties. however, president marcus junior was picked to realize the limits of this school given the unwillingness of aging, to let golf. it's a sort of regional emissions and it's an willingness to act like how

a good neighbor should. so recognizing this manila has been emphasizing its willingness to enhance its materials, take the maritime security, territorial defense capabilities through which alliance with the us and it strategic partnership with japan and australia. you know, well let me look also emphasizes the long term piece. what is badging can only be a cheap little diplomatic negotiations. miller has illustrated, it's a willingness, you know, to be subjected to trying this narrow, the crafted designs for the reach of the shangri la dialogue, which is i is just top security conference kicked off today by james declined. amazing. we think you way. so the military discussions, it's saying the us know is clearly why there are currently difficulties in military communication between china and the us, the you a sort of immediately correct. it's incorrect actions. what do you think they mean by that as well?

you know, i think it's quite evident, you know, with new guards to what they mean is that they are quite unsatisfied with the way the united states. and of course, the us network defense network, you know, have been significantly solidifying their presence for the stability of their rules based orders. you're aware, china also has it gets alternative global security initiative, which really 6 to cancel out the us alliance system, particularly in asia. but, you know, we help to understand trying her kind of logic towards the us and the us alliance is quite contradictory and quite logical of some way. you know, we have to understand the countries like manila, no one can force a particular sovereign states to choose sides. but because china has been quite assertive and of course the expansive in terms of its interest, the role of the us as a trusted and responsible security provider makes it even more significant for countries like the philippines, japan, south korea, to maximize their defense capabilities for their interest, well,

china would have to monitor and regulate the facade of behavior if it sticks to have a more conducive environment for peace and negotiations with other countries. i'm afraid to, we're going to have to leave today. i want to thank you so much for your insights today that's done mclean deal with geo political analyst and also in manila, thank you very much. i a better fit today's more on d w dot com, forward slash eyes and on social media at the top we can use we'll see you next week. goodbye. the woman playing the your router. it's an absolute taboo intending but loved it almost doesn't care. the pioneering musician has always been a leader follower,

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