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a new lowest package to the eligibility to live the community that you really need as teams is clear, inclusive classroom, surprise, thomas, the power of love and acceptance. and we caught up with golf, take south africa, which has been sweating, gender, stereotypes not conforming to binary relationships in africa. temple is culturally specific challenges which the domina tell us actual culture may find difficult to accept, but is b j o quit really an african cause our sex and relationship x, but the box this nice hey, what are you reading to? oh, just some l g b t q i article, it's honestly quite depressing. l g b t q i right?

that's the lowest concept and i'm africa. and if you asked me actually, what was the, is a global reality? and it's very much present in western countries. european colonize is imposed, their own rigid agenda, and sexual norms on african societies from dress, go to labor divisions to laws criminalizing same sex activity, which he raised the rich diversity of gender and sexual expression, but invested long before they set foot on our continent. like with an ancient african societies, they were very clear practices. for instance, in many west african cultures, they were individuals assigned to male at birth, who dressed and presented themselves as women. they were seen as spiritual intermediaries who are respected within their communities. in many bond 2 communities, women are allowed to marry other women in order to grow families and help with household choice. but it just feels natural. i don't know when people say that

something is against nature. what they actually mean is something that clashes with their opinion or world view. what do you think where people are placed on like such a high, yet negative pedestal, clear bodies are over sexualized. basically, an idea formed from societal stereotypes and misconception. many mainstream media outlets portray create individuals in a hyper sexualized manner, perpetuating harm, reducing their identity solely to their sexuality. this not only the humanise as clear people, but also puts them in danger. love knows no boundaries. we need to understand that queer folk have the same capacity to love for meaningful relationships, build families, just like anyone else. some of the gender or sexual orientation doesn't reduce the authenticity and depth of very motion. it's disgusting to think that people still hold such narrow views. how can we change this the way people think,

education and conversation by sharing stories, history and experiences? we can challenge stereotype. it's important to have respect for conversations with those with whole different opinions. the bunk can mix and emphasizing the importance of inclusivity and the quality for all of you. everyone deserves to be respected and embraced for who they are. that's the spirit. love is love, and it's time for the world to recognize that true. to claim that in this thing is an honestly ton is based on the assumptions that africa is a homogeneous continent. but you and i both know the continent is a highly diverse, yet somehow that diversity doesn't translate into tolerance for people who are different or with loved differently. although there has been some progress on the protection of eligibility to i plus rights in africa. many continued to suffer a,

b, c, and some african countries gave people can be punished by death or lengthy prison tops. eligible to q people in africa are at risk. many face abuse, rejection and persecution. homosexuality is al fluid in dozens of african nations are on top of the countries that alco homosexuality i've located in africa on your few african nations do not criminalize saves explanation, but some of them offer no protection to educate secure people. south africa became the fast african country to legalize same sex marriage in 2006, uncle lot, in 2021, became the latest african country to decriminalize, same sex relationships. it was a new lo replace. one from the canadian era visa milestones along the road to acceptance and freedom. but many algebra to q people remain at risk and countries

like small retain yet, and somalia and measure and states that practice sylvia know, gave people can be punished by death or the length of prison time. you kind of punishment to present your costs of your life. little targeting gave people it could result in the death penalty for specific fix up to fall from watching the activities could be sentenced for up to 20 is under the low case of food are considered for in or in the, into the continents katya. but doesn't catch a full and what about human rights? and speaking of human rights, do you believe the government should be in your bedroom telling you what to do and how to do it? in my country, kenya? that's the case. and the l. g. b to to i plus community has become a target. my colleague, it is to my niece, invite the panelists from cages. l g be to i plus community, the church and an analyst for a debate on the right perspectives lease and legal challenges. the young people

face the hello and welcome back to the 77 percent street, the bank. and today we're going to be discussing the rights or lack there of the l . g. particular community here in the country, out of $64.00 countries that have outlawed homeless sexuality with same sex acts in the countries, nearly half of those rights here in africa. kennedy is of course, one of those nations. and our question today is, is it possible to co exist without discrimination? and i'd like to ask my 1st question to pose, you can sort of paint a picture for us of what the situation is like for the community here and kind of. so the law criminalizes some sexual us, i'm very general. and then below so criminalizes the ways in which that is performed the longest different community. so same sex relationships and same sex, pick you up. but also within said couple must division oral effects. so it's anything that's conceded and not just uh, so just to clarify, what is a goal,

what is criminal, what can you go to do for what you can go to just voice for being phone and having that picture. and so i looked at policemen will address to detain you for being perceived eligibility. i but that employees not criminally. so the simple fact of being korea is you're not going to get to do for that, but not really. what does it actually mean to be clear? in kinda how does that life look like? first and foremost, it means being human. and i think the me, the most frustrating thing about the whole concept is that human beings are founded on defense as we all different. i mean, look at to you because that to me, give me specific examples. coming out to my family, i got this on that. i wouldn't say how many prostate came up to my mother. my mother took me to all my siblings and been close to 20 of them based on me. right. and it has been size v as now. i do not have a family underway and the general public likes to look at the queer people on 6, elizabeth on existence of, of these people. these are people going please, sam,

problems that goes through when they go to reduce the consequences. let me bring encouraging. contrary, he's a policy analyst with the leading party here in canada, and so i think you can speak on the potty position. but also the question of when the law says that you know such will accept criminalized and yet you don't get access because of how you present. well, how which loved any suppose to protect you against that discrimination. the beginning of the foundation of the sort of discussions is based on the african values known scholar tests and traditions. and of course, largely because a, our community or our society in kenya has, you know, those a issues that the phone see that how does that happen? so what's our christian values and models have been brought to the for is to open up conversation with the legitimate sites of every canyon or every

human being to be whatever they wish to be comfortable micies they for each of these country that in addition, because they've introduced a charge. let me introduce the past to a james, she's from level no charge. it's a very sort of, i would say liberal church here in kenya. very here for very young. and you have a very interesting new point talk to me about this. so what i see in the bible is that what had design and context was 6, right? there was a, it will concept of my agents in a mind and a woman. and it's weaving the confines of my age. and the reasoning behind that. because these, these sinks, lunesta comes with the, the, the, the way that men and women a bit different. and so together we become better able to save as, as a society. but then that doesn't give me the right to pollution you. but of course not everybody in this country be that 80 percent of the people in this country identify as christian and most of them a very conservative going as far as saying that not only is this a natural, some people calling for violence at against the career community,

what do you say to them because i mean you still put, bring to the same god. you touch it and you need what people think. but if you call yourself extra 10, understand that is the bible and that bible 7 allow me to do violence against another assignment. my question to you as a says, gentleman, are you talking about this with fellow men? we know that in this country it can become very vitriolic among men spaces being on . is this breaking down being honestly when you can, can you even when you go the majority of kenyans did you find much more? because the a pastor was the most influential person who's within their society, they say, all we look up to you is what we defined as model. but this is what i mean. do you live by these more is realistically. how many people, how many pastors actually complete, you come to church every single sunday, but you live by these principles in which that we speak of right here behind to pop it to, to my dad is also a pastor. so another thing here is i, the thing is being used living in even like when you actually know who these model

principals so high and you start seeing, we are in the, this is how you as a side you should live. and guess what? even i must even us guys, most guys be honest and will be a, is be i want to lean into that's a little bit. why do you think, 1st of all, what do you, what's your assessment? i think the question of homophobia is so important for us, because again, i want to use fia russian of p a and hate to. because when we say homophobia, we make it seem like it's such a fluffy idea. no, people are afraid because we have not been educated enough for both. what are people fearful of? i wish i had the answer to that and i hope somebody at the time when i went in, jim have access to millions of assignments. usually when it comes to them before we have them for them to be like, oh so that you get like so you so you do, what do you have is do you do actually yes, yep. and then now that's what should be happen. because even though you start thinking that what can this person do to me because he also a guy and now you're going to meet at the same time, okay, that was an event,

but then also what we were comfortable this when you don't understand something, here comes into play, how do we move forward? i think the honestly part is very important. we have people, i hit this because this section lives, but it becomes a problem when clear. people are happy to be expressive of books, and it's not expensive, but to me i should think photographic videos and posting. i'm going to bring metals that we're just coming out to say, hi, my name is make these view what i have. and there's been, i have right, i have a doctor who spoke to meet in 2019, and i've talked about his story on social media many times and he's, i've been apologised, i go for a pap smear. he asks me about my sex. and that's because that's what to answer when you go for anything about your section, it can any way your eyes. and they tell me mama lived in and from the on. now just one moment up, up to me, it was a muscle to me and we haven't let them of that experience. the end goal, you give us. all right, so when we feel safe, you will not hear anything about as jim, we'd like to finish with words from a pastor. yeah, we need to open up. i don't. i don't have

a claim on. good, steven, who doesn't. alright. just open up more spaces for people to talk. you and stuff and you can't this, i've, i've had, i lived in, or we have you got laser be so much more to ashes of possible. she has them be shown she has needs. she has all these different things i like that. so when you come to get, i've been able to get out before because i've been to be, i can attend for some i believe so new and the 1022. and you can post. you'll be just for me, but to me to be able to quite these. all right, so as we conclude mary leaves i asked of the question, is it possible to co exist without discrimination? very quickly. yes or no after this conversation? yes, it is possible. okay. that ask you a task though, but it is possible. i like that. i like to think all my guess you have to do because having this conversation and it will be is not easy, especially given the political climate. and i want to thank you of you was listening to the

a fancy it is for that debate. you can watch the entire street debate on all youtube channel. it is possible to co exist without discrimination. in fact, same sex relations are part of africa's history. ancient cave painting n, as in bob boy chose to man engaged in ritual of passion. it is documented a language in pre colonial times means like we could tackle meant the estimate, males among the long and people of nothing. you've gone to exist, ed and these men couldn't marry men. they list african causes have known complex, same sex relationships for centuries, long before it was recognized in the west. now moving on to west africa and conservative nigeria, same sex relationships, us to, to both members of the eligibility to i plus community,

i most changes to social hostility, but teenage danielle kuhn k is trying to link the power of love and acceptance to his own. educate you i plas, inclusive fashion bride in conservative nigeria, same sex relationships, khattab who is the host i well for the l g b t q class community like ocean team. and john daniel k has an idea to make it a little friends with you and to see question brand concave apparel. i had one disrespect, so discrimination on 3 or press one. so green up. i always been like bullied on all of that. so i go through, read one, i found out about 2 years. i've always been a 1st time i have to stick up on myself. despite the ard, i think it's brand has been welcomed, especially in the l. g. b t q plus community. bold inscriptions like them isn't

weakness. gender is fluid and we can be seen of happening, hung out around legal i think it's quite a new way to add inclusive brand. i've always had a hard time finding. the old stuff fits my agenda, expression that sees uprisings very, very clean from someone that says each taking this course really kind of society be leaving it. always fun of things like this done. you runs an online store from he's home. can you deal with designs on his instagram page? plants can also request designs done. you know, them gets across the country is to realize the outward before supervising the ceiling and branding. the thing people don't understand is my brand is not out for the, for just the origin particular presence of my brand before it be 40. and forty's, friends and customers were having his clothes in steals a sense of pride,

the from nigeria, that slash, than we the cause. and speaking of including people. another young person in the name is doing exactly that. melody bought tang is a trust activist who helps young non binary people come to tom's event orientation . case high story. this may look like an ordinary college class includes a nobody name yet. it is anything but the train is melody bossing, a k a level as you as the trans activist and the lesson is about orientation and the location is how off pride myself and i figured i could call an approximate what yeah. was not easy for me, but today i can see it in front of a lot of people that run across. and i'm processing myself. how i've tried is a federation of l g b t q organizations in b, and has with over 10000 members direct to come out. dean bank really works with

melody. tea highlights how the names, indigenous beauty, culture and belief has created a form of colors with a clear community based on people who don't is much more tolerant of eligibility people and the indigenous religion accepts this people without any problem. in many, many people tend to indigenous religion rather than 2 important religions say i'm a boy named crab diana. to have been a niece my the melody concept as both countries from yet to 35 years old. i acknowledge a status as a queer person, which means it's difficult to straddle intolerance in both countries along with

both of them. i also commuted from cartoon new to a crowd because i cries, also my city. but on the other hand, i live a very, very hidden life because an a cro, there's the government, a lobbyist county, there's a lawyer being discussed in the national assembly against l. g. b team, people against drunk gender people. i hope that many people today, especially due to the public video i've made on social media, know me and been, you know, which is why i melody is trying to help others figure out the identity and not have to go through the situations for now. so when i did research, i saw a transgender people on the internet. i had to look it up and it made me go, wow, i went and read the definition. it's a person who doesn't recognize themselves, and they're both gender. i said, bingo, that's me. oh, i see one car. well, they mean might be more color and towards the clear communities. melody knows activism and openness is just the start and helping others find their identity.

our next reports takes us down south state, a gulf gradually dropping in on south africa's state parks. drywall and flash planners for them. skating is not just a not form and sport, but also assigned 3. let's meet them. a girl escaped south africa rolled onto the scene in 2015 and has been shredding gender stereotypes ever since skate boarding has grown popular across south african cities and both girls of grabbing their decks and hitting the state. the focus of africa is the community organization where we empower women. i think it's changing the lives of different girls from different communities by having sessions, like these girls, during together in a male dominated school, is just

a feeling that i saw and also playing with that or the president who used to love getting is just the feeling that brought me into loving it, and that's what i was so obsessed with is the power for let the state go. skateboarding isn't to just about the through. on the flip side, it's about to find the on and building an independent confident identity. some of the goals come from unstable homes and the state park office and not just a place to learn to kick slip, but also a sanctuary. i'm a female asking for the female has been so challenging in the sports in the industry cuz most need on 5 goes doing it when my parents, because of the voice of my mother, she's via phone last. so like being me and my siblings a waiting through like it's a soft guys like staying with the bio, pull up us and you guys like to go. so no watch we go to is keep,

wasn't anything else. i'll go ahead and have chosen and trauma as a come from a broken family. you know we would go up and you said funding things off. when i get to scale, it makes me feel better about myself as an adult at gyro which then you get to learn. these girls have taken to skating with its emphasis on into civic d, regardless of background and orientation girls skate south africa has given members like email and tar over a sense of belonging. in fact, state forwarding has given them a full 360 perspective. so i'd be like what if i run, i can actually get more like school buddy is. i'm one vision to me. it's a really empower. here's a, a female imagery. so. so in control, i guess i've seen calls in to what's crazy and you make friends like great. those are very social balls rolling alongside or skates of boys who are only too pleased to see girls dropping in on the sport. skate forwarding has been added for stage 2

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