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a financial on d, w dot com the the english author and james hilton described the fictional shangri la is a harmonious, earthly paradise. an isolated utopia of overflowing happiness. there wasn't too much of that spirit in the air at the sound rely on dialogue and singapore a just top security for him. the deteriorating relations between the us and china had everybody on the edge of their seats. and well, the elephant in the room only grew in size, military drill, and the taiwan straits almost ended in tragedy. us destroyer narrowly avoided being struck by a chinese worship of $0.10 between the 2 superpowers. on the rise, we ask how long can washington and beijing steer clear of a head on collision? nicole fairly in berlin and this is the day the
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don't ever want to be that close to another vessel, because too many things can go wrong. and you could actually have a question. the trainer continues with that. then that's a great the likelihood of the nation. the opposite change on the truth is that the united states is provoking troubles fast and chinese dealing with it and i called ends with international law. the court japan shake over dinner is no substitute for a substitute. engaged with innocence, it's undeniable that the severe conflict between china and the us ought to be an unbearable pain for the world. the, also on the day, how much opposition is left in vladimir putin as russia increase online surveillance, has made it even more dangerous to speak out or to organize the cent vladimir putin
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as opponents. the main task might be to get through this time and stay out of prison. i'll take him to the barricade. snow is a bad idea. i'll come to the show. we begin with a world's other pressing geo political hot spot outside ukraine. the deteriorating relationship between 2 super powers, the song rely on dialogue. a high level defense meeting in asia could have been an opportunity for the us in china to have a much needed conversation. but it didn't come to that. a handshake, a few words that was it, and dialogue is needed now more than ever to keep tensions as a fears of an escalation were stir just this weekend. when a chinese warship crossed dangerously close in front of a us to store in the taiwan strait. this is the moment a chinese warship blocked the path of an american destroyer. forcing the us vessel
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the trunk wound to drop at speed and avoid a collision. the incident code of the united states and canada were holding joint drills in the taiwan strait. a body of water that's already as sensitive waterway as it separates china from type on the canadian official who witnessed the full time has cooled up, china's actions was intentional and dangerous. the fact that this was that was over the radio prior to doing it clearly indicated that was intentional, maneuvering close to each other, $150.00 yards is, is very scary. and you don't ever want to be that close to another vessel, because too many things can go wrong and you can actually have a question. the weight china also told a t c, it type on the waters around it belonged to them. they have blamed the us for provoking risk in the region. change. obviously the truth is that the united states
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is provoking trouble 1st and try is dealing with it and the contents with the international law. china respect, freedom of navigation on overflights. but china certainly oppose a southern country, is causing trouble in the taiwan straits and safeguards against offering to you on a secure. it's a, i'm a teacher hoping but take the time on straight to spot of the south china sea, where china's naval posture has been growing increasingly aggressive over the last weeks blocking the passenger philippine ship in may then or us across and now are us destroyed. you know, our voice, my concern about the irresponsible behavior we've seen with the call center steps and in the course of this behavior that we see in the, in the waterways. and. and so that, that continues, i call upon the appear, sees leadership to,
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to really do the right things to rein in that kind of a conduct because i think the accidents can happen. that could cause thing just burrow out of control. so phone, china is defending it's sense of the country's leaders have also stated that a full blown conflict, but the us would be a quote unbearable to fast though. sorry daniel's is the managing director of the asia society policy institute and in the united states and joins us tonight from new york. welcome to the day in miss daniels, the white house respondents to the situation in the south china sea, with a grave warning. let's have a quick listen to a john. kirby had to say it, it won't be long before somebody gets hurt. that's the, that's the concern. with these unsafe and unprofessional intercepts, they can lead to misunderstandings. they can lead to miscalculations when you have pieces of metal that size, whether it's in the air or on the sea,
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and they're operating that close together. it wouldn't take much for an error in judgement or a mistake to get made and somebody could get hurt. and that's just gotta be unacceptable, should be unacceptable with them as well. with so much at stake, what stands in the way of productive the escalade, tory talk here as well. is there a number of reasons that both sides things that the ball is in the other countries court to, you know, create a more favorable condition for a productive dialogue? from the us perspective, it's this military signaling that china is doing, has created unfavorable conditions and there's a real need to get back to productive dialogue, to manage that from china is perspective the military signaling that the us is doing has created on favorable conditions for productive dialogue and it's china's responsibility to curve some of its actions. so both sides are really in
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a downward spiral still. and yet some of the higher level dialogue that has taken place shows that both sides remain committed to kind of keeping the tone of the meetings that can take place productive. it's just not clear that they're ready to widen the scope of that dialogue to include military to military dialogue. at this time, you talk about a downward spiral about finger pointing and the us as long insisted on creating guard rails to keep precisely that in check. why is china so opposed a china is not necessarily opposed to the idea of managing the relationship responsibly. it's in the, you know, the oper right operation of that management where we really have funded mental differences. so the us things that guard rails on the relationship could include things like crisis communications, talks between the 2 militaries. but from texas perspective,
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they feel that those types of crisis communication hotlines would not be guard rails, but with the seat belts to allow the us to continue to make these. what they see is very provocative is particularly in the taiwan strait and, you know, in other words, to give the us a chance to de escalate might and power the us to continue. escal atory moves from the chinese perspective. as you say, the military to military dialogues, maybe it's a little too early at this point, but there is dialogue happening on, on other levels last month. for example, the head of the ca traveled to china. how much performance is there to all of this, or is it really as bad as it seems a hi is there's always a performative aspect to a country to country relations. and the question really is, who are the 2 sides performing for? i think that there's a sizable domestic audience in the us and in china that really wants to see their
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leadership stand up to what they see is the bad behavior of the other side. so i think underneath some of that performance which, you know, tends to take place and these press statements like the one you just played. there is, is real sincerity. and that officials on both sides that are particularly high level do understand the stakes of maintaining a cordial and at least peaceful relationship. and they understand that not only you know, for the benefit of the, you know, their own strategies. but also because they know that the world is watching, that there aren't other countries in the world that want to see the us in china go to war with each other. and so the audiences domestic, but it's also, you know, the international community and the need of the international community to see these officials manage the relationship responsibly. ok, let's talk about the other side of the performance because and china as defense, minister also a warrant of future confrontation. here's what he said. then done,
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slowly, gentles the cold war mentality has now resurgent and it greatly increases security risk of block confrontation in the asia. pacific, you'll know that some big power is continued to promote their so called endo pacific strategy. knowing china holds that no strategy should be based on ideological ground, whose aim is to build exclusive military alliances against imagine threats. parties, hakim, this could easily lead to a self fulfilling prophesy scandal for the, for the end that you yet. and he added that mutual respect, should prevail, over bullying and heads your money. how does that fit into china's behavior in the taiwan strait over the weekend? as well, i think mutual respect is another term that really needs to be on packed a little bit and it's kind of like guard rails. i think the u. s. has no problem in concept with the idea of mutual respect. but to the china, he is mutual respect,
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often means of taking their position for granted, and particularly when it comes to timeline. so what the chinese say when they mean when they say what they need, when they say mutual respect with regard to taiwan, is that the us and taiwan should have no official relations or unofficial relations . and that, you know, the us should accept china's position on the eventual resolution of taiwan. and that's just not, you know, where the us interest lie. so i think mutual respect, much like guard rails is an area that the 2 sides need to unpack through direct and candid and hopefully constructive dialogue. me awhile the tensions grow and the 2 countries don't seem to even speak the same language. many are worried, especially countries in southeast asia were stuck between china and the us in a way. what is all of that mean for them? so i think there navigating a really tricky situation. i think even though the us in china consistently tell
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the region in the world that they do not expect countries to take sides in us trying to strategic competition. the way that the competition is being, you know, displayed right now does force countries into the position of taking sides. so whether it comes to, you know, high technology export controls, or it simply is a matter of, you know, maintaining diplomatic relationships with both sides. i think the countries of the region, and i think this was very much in display or on display a chamber last. i think the countries of the really region are being forced and are feeling pressure to take aside in the us, china strategic rivalry. an uncomfortable situation, we don't have much time, but i do want to know if this is, in your opinion, the new status quo now that we're working with i think we're still on a period where dialogue and serves a function of doing no harm and making sure the situation doesn't get worse and whether or not this maintain, this becomes a, you know,
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a maintain status. well will depend on what happens over the next year. we do have the possibility that presidents asian team will travel to the united states to the time the a pac stomach in san francisco in november. and i think our, i should really be trying to what are the moves made over the summer in diplomacy to get to the point where the 2 leaders can sit down in person in the us and have a conversation about moving the relationship forward in a much more peaceful and hands sustainable manner for danielle. thank you so much for your time. my pleasure. thank you. i in russia speaking up against a lot of improvement can come at a heavy price. on sunday, russian police arrested more than a 100 demonstrators who took to the streets to mark the birthday of jailed kremlin critic. i'll explain of all me and the straight who has had a hand written signs calling for his release. human rights and monitoring group o v. d info said the volley supporters were detained in 23 cities across russia,
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including moscow in saint petersburg, and prominent opposition leader was jailed for fraud and contempt of court. but no volley maintains the charges were trumped up to silence him. rushes government has passed increasingly tough, wants to stifle criticism since it's invasion of ukraine. so is it even possible to oppose the government in vladimir putin as russia? one young opposition politician in moscow, believe it's worth a shot. constantine suncoast is focusing on community action like this recycling drive. coffee is a local opposition politician for the moscow district of much ice cubes. every months he gets anywhere from 50 to a 100 people together here to sort and recycle their garbage. recycling is largely uncontroversial in russia for now. so the authorities did recently shut down the environmental organization. green piece openly criticizing the government
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. it's almost impossible. but konstantin thinks this kind of event can be a start. that goes just jackson. likely ecological campaigns can really unites people in these hot times. it's important to stay united and support each of us. and it's important to know we're trying to do at least some things to improve about around us. an overwhelming majority of russian support president vladimir putin, at least according to government pollsters. increasingly draconian laws have made protesting against the russian government all but impossible. especially since the war and ukraine started. even post on social media could sizing the war to meet up to 15 years in prison. before you leave me a little in a digital with the types of ship like russia. it's a kind of a person's every move can be traced to controlled the far it is, can find out everything about the person, but interested in very quickly if necessary. i think that right now a lot to me pretends opponents. the main task might be to get through this time and
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stay out of prison. i'll take him to the barricade. snow is a bad idea of what he thought it was a most russian opposition. politicians are in jail or an exile, but that didn't stop 23 year olds, konstantin con. call from going into local politics just last year. he knows that the more public attention he gets, the more he's in danger. lots of activists who have stayed english an hour afraid you don't know if the police will come in, so she'll home in the morning. unfortunately, because of the repressive law as being passed is dangerous to express your opinion in public. his own unpleasant, we have to work in the conditions. we have the law critical, you still able to get flow, you're kind of cool plans to continue his monthly recycling drive and he hopes to stay in politics despite everything he believes things in russia can change. meanwhile, for the past 15 months, people in ukraine have been living in constant fear of russian attacks in recent
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weeks. however, residents across the border and rushes belgrade region started to get a sense of the horror of having more on their doorstep. pro ukrainian groups of russian funders have launched multiple cross border incursions into russia from ukrainian territory. the claim to have taken full control of some settlements in the area. it talks affronted russian authorities to evacuate thousands of residents . we can now speak to in the front of our, of until 2016. he was a state do my deputy for and it was the birth canal living in ukraine. he is the political representative of the freedom of russia legion. melissa, mister, for them are welcome to the de, yours is one of at least 2 russian paramilitary organizations reportedly fighting against russian troops. what can you tell us about the situation in belgrade at the moment? or there is a very intensive pricing um, so our soups are b. c gene should become a uh, the district capital. uh, so i see 2 more or less the same size as before. uh, they have to control or uh,
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approximately 1000 small villages. so inside the rush, are you putting in the border, so there is a certain piece of land uh, or for free and leave it reads as well. sure on there, which we see white, blue and white black. and how big are the militias operating inside russia? as far as your concern, we can not disclose the exact number, because uh, ford means that the, the reason was buffalo to get rid of the size of the original is uh, florida. but the only on some other but the lives in the restroom, valencia of course. so altogether it's probably about the wheels. what are your plans for the, the areas that you say you have liberated? well being done, some of us we use to try to keep them and if we will manage to liberate should be can i think that that would be the place where we can keep control of that. and so
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it'd be within you uh, governments if you, well, the, the, the us sort of tools be so great that show it so that we will exports and just to kinda, so we will different if you're not wasting people's lives. and right now what we see is the setup, which is ottoman, is just showing these uh, these phone with the new files uh, with the a to you literally. um, so the effectively destroyed in your industry. and if they did, they act the same as in book. and so that's of course makes us very much why rates and so we, we careful the civilians. mm hm. and now the question on everybody's mind is that how closely does your organization cooperate with keith? you're based in ukraine. how, how closely do you coordinate with the government there? in general is you understand both you and your so you as the leader, them freedom of rush and russian volunteer. of course, the front of you creating
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a meal which are that far from, from national, each of which is part of your green young autumn courses. but for this particular research on the budget, the quotations. and so if you, surely we are totally on our own. so, so we are not a guided by ukrainian meal, it sure is able to provide the information that don't supply the to ration. we use the web post up with a q with our cells. and so during the us flights. so basically, you cream has done the same as well, you know, which one was doing in 2014. now, when the fighting in the bus stop, you say officially, your on your own. ukraine's western allies are very nervous about the military hard way they provided for you cream to defend its territory, possibly being used on russian soil. where exactly do you get your equipment for these operations while you're on vacation, as you say? so let them become because so all the equipment,
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so serious equipment that those guys are using, they will work like your a jury, any flights, you know, ukraine, young children, story, even of the american equipment was previously lost by ukrainian forces. i'm them, they was a repeat, come by our, our troops and that within that we a think you ring fighting with approaches, lee? yes. the, with the units they stay with origin most that's uh, that's through. so that's why they have for all the different pieces. but let me clear or just say this is something that's was rushing me the clips on. so the thanks automotive vehicles now which would be 1000 bmc is the, the, or let us. so a builder in belgium just now for example, announced that they're starting an investigation into whether or not it's weapons or being used by paramilitary groups in russia. it's something they do not want to see. so you're saying that you cannot assure that this investigation will conclude
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that that is not the case. no, i think it will come nowhere because the build room is concerned about just the rifles as you understand the rifles hidden in, in the battlefields retreat. so it's very, very well for me. so i, i don't see the, uh, the risk module for problems. i think that so the biggest problem is obviously with a heavy equipment and that's where americans are concerns about a lot bye. yeah, i know that particular 3 to one or 6 will m m reps that they were speaking about them. this was captured and before so i'm, i'm, i'm pretty too much relaxed that will manage to publish your relax but, but ukraine's allies are not are, and you are a little wary of the fact that you might alienate people who are helping the ukrainians in their fight against the common enemy that you share, you know, i going to freights because the unit, the people who are making these decisions,
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they made the list age most already just firstly they acknowledge the rights of the ukrainians to protect their boulders and to create the give me that the rise, all no one sign the board. let's the 1st thing. yeah, the 2nd thing is that's a lease. the units are preamble for the they were fights and are you kidding? i'm territory under control for you. creating a new latrice on when they were doing this and they were the most out of control for or, or, or supervision. and certainly, as i'm saying earlier, which month for wasn't able to supply it to somebody which was not authorized to receive it. but able to swing that as last. that's at the beautiful level fields of edwards and others being captured by the soldiers that stays with the soldiers of the regional violation of moving. and we shall sway over and the americans were going to just said this in public, but each additional they just said this let in, in public. so the key lice of ukraine,
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the lead you understand what's going on. right. let's hope that russia understands that the way you just delete it out and i want to move on and ask you a more personal question. you spend almost a decade and versus state duma. now you're leaving a legion of you lost faith in the power of diplomacy, the most agent, the legion lamb, politically representing delete chunk them, all they have their military come under the sufferings from me, but a member of the list. so yes, politically, i pretty much believe in the autumn resistance, i think that the time for a long violent protest is over. we lost our chance. i was engaged from this throughout my whole life and was trying to use every opportunity to, to change the situation like it was being a preliminary on it was always diplomacy, but it didn't work. and when would you me a fortune. astonished at the campaign of there on, uh, ukraine in february of last year. when to start the doing. yeah. you know,
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some people, when he's taught for destroying another country, he eliminate this over the years. now there is only one way is to destroy the dictator. we cannot convince him to stop, he will never stop to come to stop only with force upon them are of of the freedom of russia legion. melissa, thank you for your time. thank you very much. thanks for getting that. finally, many people are familiar with spelling bee contests in the united states. not to be outdone, france has come up with its own challenge. parents is famous shows that the the boulevard was transformed into a giant open air classroom with nearly 2000 desks. 50000 language, both applied to take part in one of 3 dictation spelling tests. organizers said it was the biggest ever event of its kind. and the so van to our shop,
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