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d, w global media on 2023 on germany and online, the increasingly fragmented world with a growing number of horses digital amplified. where disclosure can we really need overcoming divisions and a vision for tomorrow's journalism. register now and join us for this discussion. at the 16th edition of d, w 's global media forum hello, and welcome to another edition of the 77 percent the show for off because youth, i'm your host when you called laura, and it's a delight having you here coming up on the so we head over to tanya, where we spoke with them, there will be
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a new lowest package to eligibility to live the community in that you really need the 15th is clear, inclusive class and frank thomas, the power of love and assistance and we caught up with golf, take south africa, which has been sweating, gender, stereotypes not conforming to binary relationships in africa. temple is culturally specific challenges which the domina tell us like, so culture may find difficult to accept, but is b j o we're really an african cause i was 6 and relationship x, but the box this me hey, what are you reading? oh, just some l g b t q i article, it's honestly quite depressing. l g b t q i right? that's the lowest concept and i'm africa. and if you asked me actually what was the,
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is a global reality, and it's very much present in western countries. european colonize is impose their own rigid agenda and sexual norms on african societies, from dress code to labor divisions, to laws criminalizing same sex activity, which he raised the rich diversity of gender and sexual expression, but invested long before they set foot on our continent. like with an ancient african society, they were various squared practices. for instance, in many west african cultures, they were individuals assigned to male at birth, who dressed and presented themselves as women. they was seen as spiritual intermediaries, who are respected within the communities. in many bond, 2 communities, women are allowed to marry other women in order to grow families and help with household choice. but it just feels natural. i don't know when people say that
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something is against nature. what they actually mean is something that clashes with their opinion or world view. what do you think where people are placed on like such a high, yet negative pedestal, clear bodies are over sexualized. basically, an idea formed from societal stereotypes and misconception. many mainstream media outlet portray creat individuals in a hyper sexualized manner perpetuating harm, reducing their identity solely to their sexuality. this not only the humanise as clear people, but also puts them in danger. love knows no boundaries. we need to understand that queer folk have the same capacity to love, meaningful relationships, build families, just like anyone else. some of the gender or sexual orientation doesn't reduce the authenticity and depth of very motion. it's disgusting to think that people still hold such narrow views. how can we change this, the way people think,
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education and conversation by sharing stories, history and experiences? we can challenge stereotype. it's important to have respect full conversations with those who hold different opinions, the bunkie mix and emphasizing the importance of inclusivity and equality for all of you. everyone deserves to be respected and embraced for who they are. that's the spirit, love and love, and it's time for the world to recognize that true. to claim that anything is an honestly ton is based on the assumptions that africa is a homogeneous continent. but you and i both know the continent is a highly diverse, yet somehow that diversity doesn't translate into tolerance for people who are different or we'd love differently. although there has been some progress on the protection of eligibility to i plus rights in africa. many continued to some of the
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seats in some african countries, gave people can be punished by death or lengthy prison tops. eligible to q. people in africa are at risk. many face abuse, rejection and persecution. homosexuality is a load in thousands of african nations. are on top of the countries at the alco homosexuality as located in africa. only a few of the conditions do not proving the live seeds explanation. but some of them offer no protection to educate secure people. south africa within the 1st african country to legalize same sex marriage in 2006, uncle law in 2021, became the latest african country to decriminalize, same sex relationships. it was a new low to replace one from the colonial era. visa milestones along the road to acceptance and freedom. but many eligibility to people remain at risk in countries
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like small retain yet, and somalia and measure and states that practice sylvia know, gave people can be punished by death or the length of present time. you can, those punishments resent the cost of your life, little targeting gave people it could result in the death penalty for specific fix up to fall from watching the activities could be sentenced for up to $20.00 is under the low case of full are considered for in or in the, into the continents katya, but doesn't catch a full and what's, what's human rights? and speaking of human rights, do you believe the government should be in your bedroom telling you what to do and how to do it? in my country? kenya, that's the case, and the l g b to to i plus community has become a target. my colleague is to my niece. invite to the panelists from kat is l g. be to i plus community, the church and an analyst for a debate on the right perspectives. it leaves and legal challenges. the young
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people face the hello and welcome back to the 77 percent street, the bank. and today we're going to be discussing the rights or lack there of the l g. particular community here in the country out of $64.00 countries that have outlawed homeless actuality will seem sex acts in the countries. nearly half of those are rights here in africa. kennedy is of course, one of those nations. and our question today is, is it possible to co exist without discrimination? and i'd like to ask my 1st question to pose, you can sort of print a picture for us of what the situation is like for the community here and kind of. so the law criminalizes some sexual us. i'm very general. and then below, so criminalizes the ways in which that is performed along a different community. so same sex relationships and things like fix you up. but also we've been said couple must division oral effects. so it's anything that's considered a natural. uh, so just to clarify what is a go, what is criminal,
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what can you go to do for what you can go to just voice for being phone and having that picture. and so a lot of policemen will address to detain you for being perceived eligibility. i but that employees not criminally. so the simple fact of being korea is you're not going to get to do for that, but not really. what does it actually mean to be clear in kinda, how does that life look like? the 1st and foremost it means being human, and i think the meet the most frustrating thing about the whole concept is that human beings are founded on different as we all different. i mean, look at to you because that to me, give me specific examples. coming out to my family, i got this on that. i wouldn't say so many prostate came up to my mother, my mother. i wanted me to of my siblings and been consequently, all of them based on me right. and it has been size v as now. i do not have a family underway. the general public likes to look at the queer people on 6 as the call existence of, of these people. these are people going please, sam,
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problems that because through when they go through with this, the constance is let me bring encouraging. contrary his a policy analyst with the leading part to here and can. and so i think you can speak on the potty position. but also the question of when the law says that you know, such will accept criminalized and yet you don't get access because of how you present what, how which law then is supposed to protect you against that discrimination. the beginning of the foundation of the sort of discussion is based on the african values, known scouts and traditions. and of course, largely because a, our community or our society in kenya has, you know, those a issues that the phone see that how does that happen? so what's our christian values and models have been brought to before is to open up conversation with the legitimate sites of every canyon or every human being to be whatever they wish to be compromises they for each of these
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country. and that in addition, because they've introduced a charge, let me introduce the past to a james, she's from level no charge. it's a very sort of, i would say liberal church here in kenya. very here for very young. and you have a very interesting new point talk to me about this. so what i see in the bible is that what had design and context was 6, right? there was a, it will come to my mind and that woman and it's leaving the confines of my age. and the reasoning behind that because these, these clips lunesta comes with the, the, the, the way that men and women a bid defense. and so together we become better able to save as, as a society, but then that doesn't give me the right to pollution you. but of course not everybody in this country be that 80 percent of the people in this country identify as christian. and most of them are very conservative, going as far as seeing that not only is this a natural, some people calling for violence against the queer community. what do you say to
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them? because i mean, you're still footprint of the same god. it's hard to do needs what people think, but if you call yourself extra 10 in this time, that is the bible and that bible 7 allow me to do violence against another assignment. my question to you as a says, gentleman, are you talking about this with fellow men? we know that in this country it can become very vitriolic among men spaces being on . is this breaking down being honestly when you can, can you even when you go to the majority of kenyans, did you find what's more? because the a pastor was the most influential person who's within their society, they say, all we look up to you is what we defined as moral box. this is what i mean. do you live by these mores realistically? how many people, how many pastors actually complaints, you come to church every single sunday, but do live by these principles in which that we speak of right? you're behind the appropriate title to my dad is also a pastor. so another thing here is i, the thing is being, is living in even like when you actually know who these moral principles so high
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and you start seeing, we are in the, this is how you as a side you should live. and guess what? even i must, even as guys most guys being honest with me for the i is be i want to lean into that's a little bit. why do you think, 1st of all, what do you, what's your assessment? i think the question of homophobia is so important for us, because again, i want to use fia russian of fia and hate to because when we sent home for b a, we make it seem like it's such a fluffy idea. no, people are afraid because we have not been educated enough for both. what are people fearful of i? i wish i had the answer to that. and i hope somebody, i the, someone who someone and jim have answers for millions of assignments. usually when it comes to them before we unfortunately we like, oh so that you get it so you so you do what do you do like what habits do you kind of like? sure. like yes. yeah. and then now that's what i usually have. because even though you start thinking that what can this person do to me, because you're so a guy now you're going to meet at the same time, okay? that wasn't an event. but then also when, when we were comfortable this,
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when you don't understand something for your company, typically, how do we move forward? i think the honesty part is very important. we have people, i hit this because this section lives. but it becomes a problem when clear, people happy to be expressive about and it's not expressive. but to me i should think photographic videos and posting. i'm going to bring metal that we just coming up to say, hi, my name is make these view what i have been this been, i have rights. i have a book to who spoke to me in 2019, and i've talked about his story on social media many times he's, i've been apologised, i go for a book smith, he asks me about my sexual next. because the best way to answer when you go for anything about your sexual didn't have any way. right. and they tell me mama lived in and from the on. i'll just a little longer pups, me, it was a muscle to me and we haven't worked with that experience. the end of goal. you give us what rights when we feel safe, you will not, you know anything about as jim we'd like to finish with was from a pastor. yeah. we need to open up our doors. i don't have
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a claim on good, steven, who doesn't. alright. to open up more spaces for people to talk, you and stuff, and you can't this as a task i live in, or we actually you got laser be so much more to why she's a past due and she has them be shown she has needs. she has all these young thing i like that. so when you come to get, i've been able to get out before because i've been to be, i can attend for some i believe so new and the 1022. and you can post. you'll be using the but to me to be able to quite disease. all right, as fast. so as we conclude, mary lee's, i asked the question, is it possible to co exist without discrimination? very quickly. yes or no after this conversation? yes, it is possible. okay. that appeal task though, but it is possible. i like that. i like to think, oh my guess yet today, because having this conversation in a ruby is not easy, especially given the political climate. and i want to thank you of you was listening to the
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thank you for that debate. you can watch the entire street debate on oh, youtube channel. it is possible to co exist without discrimination. in fact, same sex relations are apart of africa's history. ancient cave painting n, as in bob boy chose to man and ditch in ritual passion. it is documented a language in pre colonial times means like we dealt with that cool meant the s, i mean it's male among the longer people of north and you've gone to exist. ed and these men could marry meant diverse african causes have known complex, same sex relationships for centuries, long before it was recognized in the west. now moving on to west africa and conservative nigeria, same sex relationships, us to, to both members of the eligibility to i plus community. i most changes to social
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hostility, but teenage danielle kuhn k is trying to link the power of love and acceptance to his own as you be to i plus inclusive flash will broad in conservative nigeria, same sex relationships, khattab who is the host i well, for the l g, b t q plus community. but log ocean team and john daniel k has an idea to make it a little friendly with you in to see question brand concave apparel one this respects so discrimination on 3 or press one. so green up, i've always been like bullied on all of that. so i go to be the one i found out about 2 years. i've always been a 1st time i have to stick up on myself. despite the ard, i think it's brand has been welcomed, especially in the l g. b t q plus community. bold inscriptions like fan isn't
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weakness. gender is fluid and we can be seen of happening, hung out around legal i think it's quite an innovative and inclusive brand. i've always had a hard time finding the old stuff. it's my agenda expression that sees uprisings very, very bold come from someone else's age. taking this whole cause, any kind of sustainability, even always fun of things like this done. you runs an online store from his home. can you deal with designs on his instagram page? plants can also request designs done. you know then gets across the country is to realize the artwork before supervising the ceiling and branding. the thing people don't understand is my brand is not out for the, for those particular presence of my brand before it be 40. and forty's, friends and customers were having his clothes in steals a sense of pride,
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the from nigeria, that slash, than we the cause. and speaking of including people. another young person in the name is doing exactly that. melody bought tang is a trust activist who helps young non binary people come to tom's yvette orientation case, high story this may look like an ordinary college class including no been named yet . it is anything but the train as melody botching a k, a level which was the trans activist. and the lesson is about orientation and the location is kyle, off pride, myself and i figured i could call that upfront. yeah, it was not easy for me, but today i can see it, you know, front of a lot of people that kind of talk and i'm proud of it myself. how of pride is a federation of l g, b t q organizations in b, and has with over 10000 members direct to come out. dean vancleav works with melody
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. he highlights how the names indigenous do do. culture and belief has created a form of hundreds for the queer community based on people who don't is much more tolerant of eligibility people and the indigenous religion accepts this people without any problem. in many, many people tend to indigenous religion rather than to important drainage on the say boy named access gonna to have been in these my the melody concept as both countries home. yet the 35 year old acknowledge is the status as a queer person, which means it's difficult to straddle intolerance in both countries. along with
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both of them, i also computed from cartoon, no to a crowd because i cries, also my city. but on the other hand, i live a very, very hidden life because in a crow there's the government. the lobby is currently there is a low being discussed in the national assembly against l. g. b team, people against drunk gender people. i hope that for many people today, especially due to the public video i've made on social media, know me and been, you know, which is why i melody is trying to help us figure out the identity and not have to go through the situations for now. so when i did research, i saw a transgender people on the internet. i had to look it up and it made me go, wow, i went and read the definition. it's a person who doesn't recognize themselves, and they're both gender. i said, bingo, that's me. oh, fucking one car. well, they mean might be more tyler and towards the queer community. melody knows activism, an openness is just the start and helping others find the identity. our
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next reports takes us down south states, a gulf gradually dropping in on south africa's state parks. drywall and flash planners for them skating is not just a not form and sport, but also assigned to a let's meet them. a girl escapes south africa rolled onto the scene in 2015 and has been shredding gender stereotypes ever since skate boarding has grown popular across south africa, cities and both girls of grabbing their decks and hitting the state. the focus of africa is the community organization where we empower women. i think scaffolding is changing the lives of different girls from different communities by having sessions like these girls, during together in a male dominated school,
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is just a feeling that i saw and also playing with the president who used to love getting is just the feeling that brought me into loving it, and that's what i was so obsessed with is the power collect the staples. skateboarding isn't to just about this through. on the flip side, it's about to find the on and building an independent confident identity. some of the goals come from unstable homes and the state park offers not just a place to learn to kick slip, but also a sanctuary. i'm a female skin for the female has been so challenging in the sports in the industry . cuz most of the, you know, 5 goes doing it with my parents because of the voice of my mother. she's via phone last. so like being me and my siblings a waiting through like if i solve guys like staying with a viable up us and you guys like to go. so no watch we go to is witnessing i'll,
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i'll go ahead and have chosen trauma as a come from a broken family. you know, we go up and you said funding things out. so when i get to escape, it makes me feel better about myself as an adult at gyro which then you get to learn. these girls have taken to skating with its emphasis on into civic, di, regardless of background and orientation girls skate south africa, has given members likes email and charles a sense of belonging. in fact, skateboarding has given them a full 360 perspective. so i do like what if i run, i can actually get more like school buddy is. i'm one vision to me. it's a really empower. here's a, a female. it makes me feel. so in control, i guess i've seen calls improve what's gaping, and you make friends like great. those are really social balls, rolling alongside or skates of boys who are only too pleased to see girls dropping in on the sport. skate forwarding has been added for stage 2 since making it to you
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at the 2020, the summer and the big in japan. i know that that looks good with the fruit guys and also but later can have restructured scape would like they have died in unity every day and everything. but if they have been stated that the nice thing for now it's catch you later scale to as the talented girls take over the hall and then not leaving anyone else. i don't see aids. i don't see a big crowd. i want to see you as a person to watch, you have to open, that's what photo was. we or something to. you know, you got this power. you can do whatever you put your mind is on this show. we don't leave anyone out includes on is part of what the 77 percent we prisons. so whether it's physical challenges, your sexual orientation or your religious beliefs,
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