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be within reason what is it really is possible to reverse the researchers and scientists all over the world for in a race against time. they are peers and arrivals with one daring goals to help smart nature. the more likes watching it on youtube. dw documentary, good, peaceful as it appears. most of us sits right next door to ukraine and the searing, devastating conflict with no end in sight. since february last year,
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the country of just 2 and a half 1000000 has been under the state of emergency wherever the fighting might spread to its own territory by accident or design finality use border agency from tex offers a symbolic show of outside support. moldova is hoping for much more this is the border crossing point from moldova into ukraine, the nearest fighting the current moment between ukraine and russia is roughly a 100 kilometers away. the big question dominates here, is where the mold over is mr. pollutants next target. comfort zone has come here to gauge the level of concern good
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in the southeast of the country, moldova shares a 200 kilometer stretch of the denise, the river with ukraine, the re no longer just the puerto, for the dividing line between war and peace. russian messiahs targeting ukraine of floating over moldova. but to those border patrols of watching more for smugglers and people traffic, those were the sound, the police say they're ready to fight for their country. whoever threatens them. however, launch the force as for as long as it takes your living next to to a huge was do you think you'll ever see peace in this region? the game in the last time? i hope so. but you're not sure. i think at this stage, no one can be sure of that, but i think everyone wants to to see piece,
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especially given the fact that as many other assignments around town, the last think a one, that's my child, he is more especially close. so i hold that soon, that will be piece so saw the threat to moldova has appeared not from outside with him, anti government demonstrations in the capital titian now alongside them, a constant stream of cyber attacks. this information and the bottom hopes is that of ruffled the thirties and put them on the defensive rushes hands they say is behind it or what we do to happen for russia to decide that they're coming across your board in force. i'm gonna take control here in most of a model of us decision to walk along. they are paying the vendors pass and be a member of the democratic humphrey world. that's exactly already the reason why
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russia so aggressive here in, in this region. and they can, for now do it if they manage to change the government by radicalize in the population. that would mean that they can put the various scenarios in motion. that would mean that they can provoke rand, including opening the front front. that would mean that they could access the blackfoot lexis with a new bed and the impress, including the trades, who have different uh, quite the advantage of submitted that position, stuck nance, proximity with maple troops, and much, much, much more. let's give some extra power negotiations with brussels. and when i say brussels, i mean all the capital for you. that means that and gaining control and they don't need extra. a reason. ready that's may be true, but for president my assembled in office since 2020 the prospect of direct russian intervention has already come too close for comfort. earlier this year, you accuse the russians of attempting a qu, data against to
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a government. how close did you come to being tough old we a much stronger this year than last year, for instance, when, when the, the word and your brain started always to, if you should so much stronger and we have proof that i always, that you should have been able to prevent pressure from leanplum and think it's scenario, it doesn't mean that these attempts will not continue, but how best did it come? it was to me, i'll speak a visa. juice's was strong enough. and restless plan proved to be not the least sticky notes because especially i believed that we were weak because that's what special one small dog or 2 to be wants to be a weak institution. a week's they would week institutions. we with close, but our institutions managed to put it in this scenario. how do we have to space 1000 way? well, i'm not 2 hours away but weeks in which
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a restaurant was planning to, to undertake this offense of uh, over throwing the government together with the criminal groups together with the corruption groups lead my some hold of it. but again, a face to the fact that we knew about these plans and thanks to the fact that the institutions managed to do yet quickly. and there were vigilant enough this, this was not, this hasn't happened. do you feel personally on the threat from nation that uh you know that a 6 when you come to a position like being the president of a country that uh huh. they respond back to the q. i some i do feel safe because i have a think yeah, which protects you of talked about the a hybrid was that um most ago his opponents who distributed large sums of money to
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all the galks in moldova, essentially to cause trouble. he would seem to have very powerful enemies here. do you know who they will? uh, are we talking about a 5th column against you in this country? it's a combination um we have quality assurance and people who have been receiving money from russia for years to undermine o. s. h to be of the strong state and the republic of minova. more recently, some of the cut off groups which before, didn't have a dual political color, no joined russia. and it's attends to this the boys, the country. because the interest of the cut up groups are to keep them on the integrate area to have weak institutions. so that they could continue to still and they would not be put in place and they would not respond for the abuses that they've committed in the, in the past. so you have a combination of efforts. now, of those people who have been working for us just for many years,
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who have been paid berisha to, to work against them all the and state. and now the look it up groups which southern lazy allies that they share the same objective regression to make this country weak and, and to benefit from that june. the 1st and dozens of european leaders were on parade. in mode of his capital. a dazzling unity displayed by the continents most important politicians, armed with a possible promise of support and the fervent hope that's what happened in ukraine won't happen here. commission president, us uniform deadline praise moldova for embodying what she called, your core values. that a sunny day, which you showed towards the ukranian refugees, the resilience which your show to rush as a relax mailer and unity which you showed to link your destiny to the european
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union. it was very moving to see a see of europe being flat here in case you know, streets last week and my message to the people of most of our is that we stand by you, we support you. every step of the way on your past will be your opinions. and today i'm glad to announce a new support package from ulta love with a double object. we want to support you to address the impact of the war and your doorstep. and we want to bring your closer to the european union. you said recently, we believe we can save our democracy only as part of the e u. 0. democracy that french are they going to do a political situation shows to us that ratio continued to be
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a big source of instability. so years to come. and that actually has been posing threats to our democracy. and that's why we believe that our democracy will be safe within the you. we value democracy. we've been fighting hard to protect our democratic institutions. and so, since this is especially to consolidate them, but we see that external challenges can have significant implications, especially on the small country, like you comforted by the fact that some of the european leaders decided to come here. we honored and we see this as a strong signal of support and you want more than a strong signal. suppose you want more than moral support don't to you want to actual support. we have been benefits, income supports with enough promising you anything. uh, we have the candidate status now, and this is extremely important to us to us. this is the life of the end of the tunnel we have been benefiting from supports. now that we've had to deal with the
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energy crisis with economic implications of the world and ukraine with that as a g crisis. yes, we do need support, but we have a strong determination here inside the country to make the innovation possible and prevent you becoming hooton's next target. as we do need to be boss of the you family, to feel safe, are you afraid of being his next target? we do see what actually is being to ukraine, and that is, is to be concerned. of course, you suggested most of it might become a full member of the you by 2030, but you could well be out of power by that new party has been posting in the low twenty's for some of this year. isn't that a why wouldn't that be a huge stumbling book to the you? if you've got voted out of office, we made the commitment to v that'd be by 2030 for the you members sheets.
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and we showed on may 21st a few days ago that he's popular support when the citizens of one of those i came to case, you know, came into the street. we have the polling. we have the pulse would show that more than 60 percent of mobile and support the you accession plan and will continue to work to make sure that the restroom propaganda. and it's this information does not reduce the popular support form for the you integration. but this is an objective which is supported by the majority of the there is no better place to test the public support. and then one of the capitals main markets where day to day concerns clearly trump any discipline dreams of
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e u. membership, top of the list, poverty, unemployment and rising prices. and the less the government can turn around the economy. it may not be in time long enough to steer the country all the way to brussels. a journey with no clear time table stretching perhaps many years into the future business says larissa thought a lot of this is just so frustrating you know, didn't know what your new which i thought i knew more good because where needs to be a what thank you for the patients for the show me and then it was ok to know what the show is. oh my no. okay. new and i see it and i see everything about the initial inspection. you says what the story is the booth i know circumspect to middle work, but it's still it's
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a chilly opinion of usage of skaters. him and you've suggested the story here. but the more you said is the way you might be smear for some sort of ads, you know, so particularly in just a few minutes or so to see i'm was it's not by that normal gum. yeah, there's going to be misleading, double surprised the most of the table dogs can use it on the which one. let's just see we have to do this, but i'm almost a farmer who who really just name me to search the vehicle. the motor so that i bought the 11th the to me, e waste cookie is the good,
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is there any is go out with them. this is if you want to click on this slide, well, switches around, you know your time. so the guy who put in the b is assuming, is what we need to be in the museum in the fission. so let me get this, you, i'll come when i know what other books to me, you can get into the, the virginia to move in about 3 weeks of the glue. god bless you, it'll be easier for someone to do solutions we, which in you. yeah, but yeah, the most close example across the most part lived here was this much quicker good. despite some good feelings towards russia, the old communist pests and statues in moldova don't attract much interest these days. but even after nearly a year and a half of war and ukraine pro moscow,
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politicians form and active, highly motivated opposition. block the could we gain power? if things go badly for the current governments? one of them is the form, i promise, go president, we go. those on who comes put in a patriot and says he'd restore a cost to ship with russia. if he go back into a pilot, we ask for an interview. he made 2 appointments, were canceled a year ago, prosecutor's job staying with an array of crimes, including treason, financial irregularities of abusive office using assistive. he's innocent. why that delay and bring him to trial. he says it's political persecution. he has a point person. but let's say he was supported by your criminal in yours and that all his fingers that has been
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openly prefab supported by the criminal. i'm here in cation on the republicans model. he was promoted off the washington duration of impetus, or he was feeling supporting the autographs. he was doing businesses with them. he was directing the policies into the direction that to facilitate them the allowed to see didn't go for billions from the people that isn't draining the budget. that means impediments in the implementation of important development programs that will only benefit the the people you see, the kind of this has been proved in the course of the floor. he remains in this instance and he's proved guilty to of course, of course. so how long, how long is this going to go on? these charges hanging over his head. don't people have a right to timely justice? timely, for 5 to yes. hear them very probably come from all over. we had the only propaganda
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and infusion of a feeling of incapacity and total dependence of bushes, wheeled joshua's policies. we have to learn and once again to leave our country the 50 kilometers outside the capital. there's another opposition stronghold. it's dedicated to upsetting the government's landing program and teaching it in the next elections do within 2 years. it's the city of all, hey, how much of the pro must go? sure. parties which is clearly invested heavily to give the people well, from the day we visited, most buildings were arriving by the coach. those at the local federal government party assured me on the minus it
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is just receive on us these products. okay. learn from you guys, then? no big of but i believe we do. one is zillow, luna, uh, shows and us gilchrist, even when i go to record it, nor do you know i gave you, would you go to the single human that says yes. my assembled way. we can potentially misuse my son. the shorter. no. good. go. yeah. the order. hey. what do you do you have a when? which in knoxville. yeah. with a glass surface. give up. i need to come from. you have fun that i will really woke up. good thoughts. i mean, you were to, into other things because you are the so you you can work the streets day a nights here in all, hey, but you won't find the man who sets up the show of body your land. sure. he fled
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the country after being convicted for his boss, and a massive bank for sure doesn't give many interviews, but we managed to contact him on line. that is permanent location. it is well, when he told her she was innocent, his trial of being rate. and the real faith was the president's my ascend on russia though, not a word of purchases. got in store right now, could i didn't you from each of us guys, lots of arguments for security. so i just gave me g o u. oh yeah. yeah. i mean 0. you'll do it. good. so that yeah, but it keeps you. yeah. yeah, probably do just you need to use the dc more but knew that i'd never guess of the go through it, but z as a upcoming value. you complete the yeah, good to list of all the above. what shot grade level when you get this, i'm not going to go near,
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let the whole lot still but guides of it. so we don't because it yeah, yeah, you but you're not going to do it from your business, but you move muskrat russell, can you me? yeah, you might have seen. yeah. you sure. what's the, what's good that's going to be on the, you know, do me a little bit less that he did it to me. yeah. i need to have someone on it and you were able to put the even the desktop or just score uh, kind of what you meant by seemed the source of goods. and would you go to, is that what am i supposed to come up with a case in the court? well, or whatever the political battles in moldova, it's the war the dominates, the government's thinking. the ministers know that for now they survive only because the ukrainians of keeping russia
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the and if you pay lose this and if they lose, you lose to we all of those, sir. your process. it's not about that public off on the warranty. do you believe that you took but you kind of them to code? you believe that you kind can win back overland, but russian has occupied as it wants to even look at the ball from right next door to ukraine, back to feel should be helped, should get all the support to the gain. it's that he thought is otherwise, we sleep in a world where countries board those funnelled respect that anymore. and this is not the world anyone wants to live and that's the prospect scale. the fact that innocent people are being killed every days in ukraine. this is something that scares everybody,
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so that's why we need to help you create and we need to make sure that such things don't happen anymore. you don't believe to you that this is a one off adventure for the criminal, and you think russia will remain the threat for years to come? yes, that's what i believe. and that's right, and that's why the truth threat. and that's why i go with the abilities. very important. what you see is president putin's and game just the large thing to at best the unions probably subject to noon or even more. but it's clear that the system between launch a country which is big enough to what kind of basis will it be in the future for western nations with russia. what, what come that'd be under those circumstances? the democratic world and, and the entire war means to make sure that for i should respect the territorial integrity of the countries. a. how does you said yourself, we remain
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a threat to mold over at least well, we have democracy. so that's right to continue. i shall continue to be a big source of instability for years to come. that's why the content on needs to stay together and that's why the democratic world needs to work together and just help all the countries like mendoza, which one's the democracy to survive for us. the easiest way to go. so the dates all the democracy and to preserve is, is, is to be part of the, but that still doesn't give us a way of living with this kind of rush at this with bunches throughout the city school still going to be the that's why the accountability is very important and restaurant should be punished for what it is doing now. and you create the
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