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friends with each other, but instead you are more. that is not ok. intimate. look at a divided society pro war in 2 ways inside russia. in 30 minutes on d. w. or sports, all of our scoring we say they're about never giving up sports flies every weekend on dw, the good peaceful as it appears. most of us sits right next door to ukraine and the searing, devastating conflict with no end in sight. since february last year,
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the country of just 2 and a half 1000000 has been under the state of emergency wherever a that the fighting might spread to its own territory by activity or design finality use border agency from tex off is a symbolic show of outside support moldova is hoping for much more this is the border crossing point from moldova into ukraine, the nearest fighting the current moment between ukraine and russia is roughly a 100 kilometers away. the big question dominates here, is where the mold over is mr. pollutants next target. comfort zone has come here to gauge the level of concern good
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in the southeast of the country, moldova shares a 200 kilometer stretch of the denise, the river with ukraine, the re no longer just the puerto, but the dividing line between war and peace rushing most files targeting ukraine of floating over moldova, but to those border patrols of watching more of a smugglers and people traffic, those were the so the police say they're ready to fight for their country. whoever threatens them. however, not just the force as for as long as it takes your living next to to huge was do you think you'll ever see peace in this region? the game in the last time? i hope so. but you're not sure. i think at this stage, no one thing before of that, but i think everyone wants to to see piece,
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especially given the fact that as many other assignments, parents on the last think a one that's my child, he is more especially close to home. so i hold that soon, that'll be piece sofa of the threat to moldova, has appeared not from outside. it's in the anti government demonstrations in the capital tissue. now alongside them a constant stream of cyber attacks. this information on the bottom hopes is that of ruffled the thirties and put them on the defensive rushes hands they say is behind it or what we do to happen for russia to decide that they're coming across your board in force. i'm gonna take control here in moldova, a model of us decision to walk along. they are paying the vendors pass and be a member of the democratic humphrey world. that's exactly already the reason why
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russia so aggressive here in this region. and they can uh for now do it if they manage to change the government by ready to closing the population. that would mean that they can put the various and that as a motion, that would mean that they can provoke rand, including opening the front front. that would mean that they could access bleckley lexis with a new bed and the interest, including the trades, who have different uh, are quite the advantage of submitted the position stuff, names, proximity with the maple troops, and much, much, much more. let's give some extra power negotiations with brussels. and when i say brussels, i mean all the capital for you. that means that again in control and they don't need extra a reason. ready that's may be true, but for president my assembled in office since 2020 the prospect of direct russian intervention has already come too close for comfort. earlier this year,
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you accuse the russians of attempting a qu data against you, a government. how close did you come to being toppled? we are much stronger this year than last year. for instance, when, when the, the world ukraine started always to, if you should so much stronger and we have proof that i always, that you should have been able to prevent pressure from implementing it's scenario . it doesn't mean that these attempts will not continue from how best to become. it was to me, i was thing you a visa juice's was strong enough. and restless plan proved to be not the least sticky notes because especially i believed that we were weak. because that's what pressure one small dog or 2 to be wants to be a weak institution or a weak state with weak institutions. we with close, but our institutions managed to put it in this scenario. how do we have to space 1000 way? well, i'm not 2 hours away but weeks in which
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a restaurant was planning to, to undertake this offense of over throwing the government together with the criminal groups together with the corruption groups led by some other ones. but again, a face to the fact that we knew about these plans and thanks to the fact that the institutions managed to do yet quickly. and there were vigilant enough this, this was not, this hasn't happened. do you feel personally on the threat from national but uh, you know that a 6 when you come to a position like being the president of a country that uh huh. they respond back to the q. i some i do feel safe because i have it cynthia, which protects you of talked about the a hybrid was that um most go has apparently distributed large sums of money to all
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the docs in moldova, essentially to cause trouble. you would seem to have very powerful enemies here to know who they will. uh, are we talking about a 5th column against you in this country? it's a combination um we have quality assurance and people who have been receiving money from russia for years to undermine o. s. h to be able to strong state and the republic of minova. maurice simply some of the cut off groups which before didn't have a dual political color, no joined russia. and it's attends to this the boys, the country because the interest of the cut up groups are to keep them on the integrate area to have weak institutions. so that they could continue to steal and they would not be put in place and they would not respond for the abuses that they've committed in the, in the past. so you have a combination of efforts. now,
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of those people who have been working for a shift for many years, who have the paper i show to, to work against the mother and state. and now the, the cut up groups which southern lazy allies that they share the same objective with russia to make this country weak and, and to benefit from the june. the 1st and dozens of european leaders were on parade in mode of his capital. a dazzling unity displayed by the comfortable just most important politicians, armed with a possible promise of support and the fervent hope that's what happens in ukraine won't happen here. commission president us, you know, from the line, praise moldova, for embodying what she called, your core values. that a sunny day which you showed to was the ukrainian refugees, the resilience which your show to rush as a relax, mailing and unity which you showed to link your destiny to the european union.
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it was very moving to see a sea of 0 keen flat. here in case you know, streets last week and my message to the people of most of our is that we stand by you. we support you every step of the way on your passcode in your opinion. and today i'm glad to announce a new support package for mold along with a double checked. we want to support you to address the impact of the war and your doorstep. and we want to bring your closer to your opinion. you said recently, we believe we can save our democracy only as part of the e u. 0. democracy that french i think goes into the political
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situation, shows to us that ratio continued to be a big source of instability. so years to come. and actually it has been posing flats to our democracy, and that's why we believe that our democracy will be safer within the you. we value democracy. we've been fighting hard to protect our democratic institutions and forces. this is especially to consolidate them. but we see that external challenges can have significant implications, especially on the small country, like you comforted by the fact that some of the european leaders decided to come here. we honored and we see this as a strong signal of support. and you want more than a strong signal of support, you want more than moral support. don't you want the actual support? we have been benefits, income supports with no promising you anything. uh, we have the candidate status now. and this is extremely important to us to us. this is the life of the end of the tunnel we have been benefiting from supports. now
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that we have to deal with the energy crisis with economic implications of the world and ukraine with that as a g crisis. yes, we do need support, but we have a strong determination here inside the country to make the innovation possible and prevent you becoming putin's next target. as we do need to be boss of the you family, to feel safe, are you afraid of being his next target? we do see what actually is being to ukraine and that is to be concerned. of course, you suggested most of them might become a full member of the you by 2030, but you could well be out of power by that new party has been posting in the low twenty's for some of this year. isn't that a why wouldn't that be a huge stumbling book to the you? if you got voted out of office, we made the commitment to be that'd be by 2030 for the you members sheets.
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and we showed on may 21st a few days ago that he's popular support when the citizens of one of those i came to case, you know, came into the street. we have the polling. we have the pulse would show that more than 60 percent of mobile and support the u. accession plan and will continue to work to make sure that the russian for background. and it's this information does not reduce the popular support form for the you integration. but this is an objective which is supported by the majority of the there is no better place to test the public support. and then one of the capitals main markets where day to day concerns. clearly trump any display dreams of
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e u. membership, top of the list, poverty, unemployment and rising prices. and the less the government can turn around the economy. it may not be in tall long enough to steer the country all the way to brussels. a journey with no clear time tables stretching perhaps many years into the future business says larissa thought a lot of it's just so frustrating you know. didn't know what your new which i thought i knew more good. trustworthy cbs. what. thank you for the patience the show me and then it was ok to know what to so. i mean, i know i knew that i see you know about the initial distortion. you say what the story is, the boys and i got to middle work, but it's still, it's
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a challenge, opinion of usage of skaters. him and you suggest that came up with the story here. but the more you said is the way you might be smear for some sort of us, you know, so particularly in just a few minutes or so that i see it was it's not by that number old. um yeah, there's going to be the misleading people scribe the most of the table dogs use it on the would you imagine seeing, we've tried to do this, but on the was the farmer has the proper to really name me to search to be i to my vehicle the water to the bottom of the list. yeah. you never get to me. e waste
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cookies. if it is there any is clogged with them. uh, this is if you want to click on this, this label switches around, you know your time. so the guy who put in a be, is assuming usable when you, who, being to the museum in the fish, i'm selling it, fishy. i'll come when i knew even what, what other books to me, you can get into the, the virginia to moving about the most of the blue bus. you had a video for someone. so what did you start to choose, lee? which in, you know, put up the most close example a total assume was what lived here was this much quicker good. despite some good feelings towards russia, the old communist busts and statues in moldova don't attract much interest these
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days. but even after nearly a year and a half of war and ukraine pro moscow, politicians form and active, highly motivated opposition. block the could we gain power? if things go badly for the current governments? one of them is the form, i promise, go president z, go those on who comes put in a patriot and says he'd restore a cost to ship with russia. if he go back into the pilot, we ask for an interview. he made 2 appointments. posts were canceled. a year ago, prosecutors jobs came with an array of crimes including treason, financial irregularities, and abusive office. using assistive. he's innocent. why the delay and bringing him to trial? he says it's political persecution. here's a point. well, let's see. he was supported by your criminal in yours and that all
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his fingers that has been openly prefab, supported by the criminal m here in cation on the republic of model. he was promoted all the russians, and the nation's impulse, as he was feeding us, supporting the autographs. he was doing businesses with them. he was directing the policies into the direction that facilitated them, the allowed to sit and go for billions, from the people that knows, draining the budget. that means impediments in the implementation of important development programs that will only benefit the the people you see, the kind of this has been proved in the course of the floor. he remains innocent until he's post guilty to of course, of course. so how long, how long is this going to go on? these charges hanging over his head. don't people have a right to timely justice? timely, for 5 to yes. hear them that if i'm to go from all of them,
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we had the only propaganda and infusion of a feeling coughing capacity and total dependence of what i shows will. and josh was policies we have to learn. and once again, to leave our country, the 50 kilometers outside the capital, there's another opposition stronghold. it's dedicated to upsetting the government's learning program and teaching it in the next elections do within 2 years. it's the city of all hey, home to the pro must go. sure. potty, which is clearly invested heavily to give the people well fun the day we visited, most dozens were arriving by the coach load at the local federal government party assured me on the minus. are you sticking
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with steve? oh no, it's fine. okay. loan from you guys. awesome. no big of but i believe we do. one is zillow, luna, which will show from the steel cuz even when i go to record, you know, do you know i gave you? would you category single human access? yes. okay. from my assign the way we can potentially yeah. me see. my son, the shorter. no. good. go. yeah. yeah. order. hey. so what do you, do you have a when? which in knoxville? yeah. with a full glass. so you have to give up. i need to come from you, but i will really woke up cuz that's, i mean you, it's in the zone. so you you can work the streets day, a nights here in all, hey,
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but you won't find the man who sets up the show a party. you land sure. he fled the country after being convicted for his boss and a massive bank for sure. it doesn't give many interviews, but we managed to contact him on line and his permanent location in israel, where he told us he was innocent. his trial of being rate, and the real face was the president's my sons on russia though, not a word of purchases. guardian store to come from right now could i didn't you from each of us because that's a volume that's pretty crazy. so i just gave me g o u oh yeah. yeah. i mean 0 you'll do you good for that? yeah, but it keeps yeah. yeah, probably do just you need to use the dc more but mute the good, the upcoming value. you complete the yeah, good to most of them all the bloodshot good level when you get this
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a not doing that. yeah. that's a whole lot still, but with god what somebody does because it yeah. yeah. you mean by you in this country? from your business, but you move muskrat? muscle truck. new me. yeah. you might have seen. yeah. you sure. what's the model you have on the was good. that's going to be on the do you know, do you me? i know that those that he did, it was me. yeah, i need to have someone on it and you were able to find it even the desktop or just score uh kind of the list even by seeing the best choice of goods. and would you go to, is that what am i supposed to come up with an upgrade to the courts? welcome or whatever the political battles in moldova, it's the war the dominates, the government's thinking. the ministers know that for now they survive only because the ukrainians of keeping
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russia the and if you pay lose and if they lose, you lose to we all are those sir your process? it's not about the public off on the own. do you believe that you took but few kind of them to go? do you believe that you kind can win back overland? but russia has occupied, as it wants to even look at the ball from right next door will to ukraine, back to feel should be helped, should get all the support to the gain. it's that he thought is otherwise, we sleep in a world where countries board those funnelled, respected anymore, and this is not the world anyone wants to live. it does the prospect scale the fact that innocent people are being killed every days in ukraine. this is something
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that scares everybody, so that's why we need to help you clean and we need to make sure that such things don't happen anymore. you don't believe to you that this is a one off of the venture for the kremlin. you think russia will remain a threat for years to come? yes, that's what i believe. and that's right, and that's why that's the truth, right? and that's why i go with the abilities. very important. what you see is president putin's and game here. just the large thing better or that back to the unions. probably. so the union or even more. but it's clear that the system between launch the country which is big enough to what kind of basis will it be in the future for western nations with russia. what, what come, that'd be under those circumstances? the democratic world and, and the anti were made just to make sure that if i showed respect to the
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territorial integrity of other countries, a lot of you said yourself, we remain a threat to mold over, at least while we're at democracy. so that's right, we'll continue. i shall continue to be a big source of instability for years to come. that's why the content on needs to stay together and that's why the democratic world needs to work together and just help all the countries like moldova, which ones the democracy to survive. for us, the easiest way to uh, closer the dates always democracy and to preserve is, is, is to be part of the. but that still doesn't give us a way of living with this kind of rush at this with bunch just rush cities because still going to be the that's why the accountability is very important and restaurant should be punished for what it is doing. now. anything the
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