that is the the job. all right, that's all for me for now, but do stay tuned. coming up next is doc film with a look at the debate over mine in the ocean for, for minerals. i'm here until the berlin, as always, thanks for tuning in the process of tearing, instead of responsible for the global business of asbestos. this is not a legitimate business. the people that are in don't deserve to be treated with any kind of courtesy by the governments of the world. the never ending story of

asbestos starts june 21st on d, w the in the middle of the pacific ocean. an ambitious expedition has set out to explore the deep sea going when no human has ever gone before. where a numerous deposits of minerals night dormant can chew menissi benefit from this on top, the source of wealth, the technology to harvest, it already exists. the 1st prototype of a deep sea collect tested the treasure stones, is called atanya. it's being tested at a depth of several 1000 meters, scientists and monitoring its deployments. because what is technically feasible

might actually just boy, a delicate underwater well is it was the risk. the susan's, i'm going to them. these are basically batteries in stone form. this is exactly what you need to build a battery. there's manganese, nickel, cobalt and copper to conduct the electricity. environmental protection organizations such as green piece one to prevent deep sea mining at all costs. it's the last cost of the planet that humans have yet to exploit for resources of the oceans in danger, the

sale has appeared on the horizon. the green pieces rainbow warrior was approaching the norman dennis the, the scientists last night, the unnerved, everyone was wondering what would happen the information about this happening much, except to say that they're making that action. so a pretty, it's is for the movers and smashed designs because we don't know piece are the only thing green piece has emphasize you this. this is a peaceful console's, but peaceful protests,

no help. and we can only hope that's what's going on. um, opens this, this seems obviously way not the target. got that so sure you, i'm just kind of soon as we moved away a little bit and the same raced away garage, we don't know what they're doing, but the tools icon light is something is happening on the starboard side board. and unfortunately, we can't see it open trust me. on the green peace activists found and documented their actions themselves. they approached the industrial ship, unpainted risk on its side. it was a protest operation on the high seas. the environmental protection organization relies on striking images and messages in many languages to galvanized supports

green paste, considered as the commercial exploitation of the deep sea to be a fatal mistake. the savannah, i'm absolute as for pollution on some demon, that's the t. they would be an absolute crime to assume that the deep sea is a barren desert, where you can do a bit of digging from manganese nodules and other oars, without having any impact on this a ton of device. that's what people would like to tell you. and i don't think the general public is aware that the deep sea is teeming with life on the companies involved. and deep sea mining aren't necessarily interested in reviewing the damage that's taking place down there. often often at home till the time they should including and the long term shops and some of the long sandwich animals. and ultimately plants such as clinton are being affected on the midland shaft. that sort of them of the this is from dr. beasen does. it's already been proven that c o

2 has been bound and the sentiments deposited on the amc for many thousands of years switched off. that means carbon that originally came from the atmosphere at optimal spanish come to the safe, we disturb and stir up the set of most. then there is definitely a risk that the seo to this carbon that is currently sequestered down there. then one could also be released back into the water and ultimately into the atmosphere, and you'll see on off the game. the green piece is rainbow. while we attract the newman to energy for weeks with the a is producing images to generate support from the city of unemployment. so putting in the boy that's makes the point right now. yeah. the all, we want to make sure the oceans continue to have the possibility in the next years of the next millennium to be climate resilient, just syncing something they can be. if we start digging and destroying the deep sea floor problem, succession to other than the ones not just taking out rocks or, and metals and then, but also the biology,

the life forms and destroying their habitat. because all of this is involved in the climate, stability of our oceans and our planet on sundays. a meeting was held in the conference room on the islands, prides the occasion. green pasted, issued an invitation to a worldwide international video conference. i use the n g a is objective, was to prevent possible deep sea mining. it reports is on its concerns. giving argument slide disrupting, the depths must be stopped at any cost before it really gets under way. before we can even say they also took a swipe at the scientist see what then researching the effects. such an intervention would have a green p said it wasn't genuine science is the right time or the influence

that's outraged to the scientists. they said they would continue to carry out neutral research in order to ultimately provide data on the findings, the to rule. so used by environmental protection organizations and then and so the, some of the research has showed understanding for the protest on the high seas. and the concerns of the environmental protection organization designs they are hi, cliff came off on this just a very sensitive issue. but everyone has the right to be concerned and also to protest we are of course, we will try to be very neutral in our analysis on an easy and that certainly correct. but that's always the question of what the science is used for. i says, and much of progress deciding that isn't natural stuff is albany snatch will be

done by the policy makers, will have to develop the regulations if you have a hybrid all, what we're trying to do here is record what could potentially happen if a device like that which a drive around on the see feel i may have is located in the middle of the caribbean. see the island country jamaica is home to the institution that will decide what the deep sea mining is permissible, the, the international c pedal, sorry t or i say for sure, which has its headquarters here founded in 1994 by the united nations. it's the overarching body that decides what happens beneath the waves. so all that i say contract is which are a combination of different entities, some governments, some private sector, some state research organizations,

all of them having view, eventually the sustainable explanation of deep sea mineral resources. i say, must proceed on the basis of 2 fundamental conditions. one is that we act on the basis of the best available scientific advice through extensive consultation. and the 2nd visit we act on the basis of consensus. and most of the member states that make the decision that's currently a $167.00 countries, including gemini, they develop the guidelines known as the mining coach, according to which deep sea mining would be possible. we have a very unique opportunity here that actually has never been done before, which is that we have a whole new industry that will proceed only when the regulations of inputs in place . usually it's the other way around,

industry stats. and then people start to react by trying to find a way to regulate it or to stop that things from happening or to ensure that good things happen. yeah, it's completely the other way around. we will, we have an opportunity to, to get it right before we even start, which is unprecedented actually. and this is a really great opportunity. so really, it's a, it's a very highly transparent organization where everybody has an opportunity to have that say and provide input into this emerging new industry. so this is where the decision is to be made. taking into account the interests of industry, the findings of science and the concerns of environmental protection organizations . nature conservation versus a $1000000000.00 business. cool, when in the end the,

the island pride was sent out to work in the korean k button. so it's an area the science, if you read more than 30000000000 towns of manganese, no jewels the said to lie on the ocean floor here. it's an enormous tricia and there is no way retrieving. it will happen without disturbing the deep sea flow. these are the results. attorneys walk, the machine has stood up notched persons of settlement. what does this mean for the environment? the address was the same as the search engine, but it says my god cannot and having taught yes, the one we see here is the manganese natural habitats next to the tracks of baton

young, where the disturb settlement has already settled on. it's completely covered the manganese nodules and phone, and possibly it's testing for this privilege of what we want to find out now. so what sickness? the settlement does negative permanent damage. and what sickness? the phone i can possibly tolerate phone, i eventually identify photography and you know, stone, i tossed over the landscape and covered everything in its way to the measuring devices and needed to be brought up to deck for evaluation. a process. it took many hours the,

the research is so eager to see what have been brought up, even though the results of the analyses would like to remain unknown for months until they were fully assessed and the board trees of the institutes in europe the 1st week got to rinse them, as because salt water is very corrosive to the electrical components within will download the data and take a look since he mcgonigal and these are the manganese nodules, and you can see that they were actually covered with deposited settlement agreement . but because the water is now slashing back and forth here, the settlement just watches a way. but it doesn't matter because we have to free the nodules from the settlement anyway, in order to collect the animals that live on the on the system. and you see, when you cut the manganese natural open, there's

a corn material around which it forms superstate. the nodule is made up of metal oxides mangan, these oxides and then there's copper and nicko and cobalt and maintenance. as well as traces of other metals. and that slowly builds up around the core material. that is such a nodule with a radius of around 4 centimeters would be close to 2000000 years old. by many we all right. so the nodules, a pre historic stay, one's own eyes that the ship tests were being carried out in the bar. chase as well as here in the cold drain. everything that had come from the depths was analyzed in detail. studying the structure and activity of microbial communities. in the settlement samples is the work of tech issues such but to hon. yup. on the human history we'd start to exploit and then see

the results then that generally, unfortunately the best for me to them in den for us. but this time of year. so exactly, because we need those resources loops up because we consume a lot of this time we will see fix and maybe this time we can just stream our impact on mid to them and use those resources in more sustainable that environment . defend the rate. uh, personally, i would rather choose consume less and i don't size telephone every 2 years, for example. so i will decide to reduce if possible values and recycling dens and not touch the sea floor as much as possible, but the people needed it looks so the

tanya shot mind has taken her seat in the control room as a biologist, she was getting the chance to search the deep sea flow for knowledge animals working with the robot pilots. the shrimp drifting by didn't arouse much interest fast teaching list of mid t, as in david. so we've got a specific list of animals that we should gather fast, and we still have about an hour to hopefully find a few more starfish on. on the few seeing them in the, in the morning, people take them to name and, and suck them up. just like a vacuum cleaner on i'm nothing's happening. is it that is fun thing. no, i think we will just the rest,

the different try to try to stuck it in. yes, you can me the video, we can try to have it in the next tanya hotel right on the see. and then the name, the, the robot found some other animals on shot to see that they did strange. it's amazing that animals can live here. we're told where the pressure is many hundreds of times higher than the surface. the was late to the robot to finished it, search on the sea bed and was pulled back on the

phone with it came the collection of animals. the biologist was quite excited. this time a i'm happy about but the to come back even though i am probably the only one now to seek to come but goes into the cold room. so that mike connie cannot, i sent you to tomorrow morning. the income is it still alive? me? no, i don't think they can handle the pressure difference. so just measuring the temperature difference of over 20 degrees, they die on the way out. it was a special moment for the off the scientists to. they were thrilled to hold these life forms from the depths close to them. it's difficult

to world that's the tanya shot, my nose, that human as he barely has a clue about what they've steep below the waves. all that they knew at the time of the mission was that bio diversity is high in the depths of the korean clip attends stomachs, but suspects that despite the address conditions deep below the surface, that could be great to species diversity. then even online,

it's possible that tanya shed hotman had brought a previously unknown species up on deck. honestly, i'm not sure if this is a new ccs. that's why we're freezing it right now. it's minus 80 degrees. so that my colleagues at the same come back institute can determine if it isn't use b c's. we've just discovered, or if it's only one still unfamiliar to me, it's possible that this one only lives in the deep sea or i just don't know it yet . it was a time of wonder and joy about the island prides the faraway on the islands escaped that day. in the atlantic, the conservationists of land to now was celebrating this small success the

in summer during the night time. c. titles come on show to lay that rags, they usually begin reproducing at the age of 20. that's when the females find their way back to the beach is where they will hatched today, their ro next the if and lucky they'll find sand to dig a hole for the next. the, the team from land to net is spending every night for 3 weeks. they find the nests, pick them up and take them to the protectiveness 3. there are too many nest products as far as human and animals that like to let nature take its course. without the help of the conservationists,

the titles would have an even greater struggle to survive, given that shrinking habitats. there are moments of one to every night now at the small ministry. baby tassels are in the jing taking their way out of the sun. it's a time of joy and satisfaction for anna into teen. but it's happening. he says is that hatch is so you can see the baby so. so now we are going to fast the see how long the the wage measured and counted precise records,

the capt. and then they, given the little head, starts the off spring, a carefully carried to close to the sea. so they went full prey to anything or any one on the beach. yes. yes, we are going and there was then a good luck. the bible, the without the dedication of conservation is like on on 13 things would be much worse for the test holes in the atlantic ocean around cape the day,

the really heavy. it's always a more show. and also a moment we will put that in 15 percent to use the veto. that is really good to me, the i so these you but the, this thread and the 20 the but i'm a says there is much more to be done to improve the condition of the oceans. stripping ascend from so many beaches is also affected. marine life just of the

case, food sources for fish have dwindles, and the rest he will put you in a tease, dispose of the fishes catch less and less and need to go as a farther out. but the other is proud of the fact that fishing here is sustainable. it's all about people's individual needs. growth is an industrial bottom trolling and hope to the lines that extend for columbus has this no bike china this boats takes in its catch of the day that you know, this size is enough to feed several families. fishing like this doesn't comm ocean bio diversity. but that's not the case everywhere on the high seas. according to the u. n. food and agriculture organization. once the of all, fish stokes, a rosa fished. technically sophisticated lodge fishing fleets,

the scouring the oceans back. catch close to set by politicians often miss the target. a huge fleet of chinese industrial fishing vessels works around the world. round the clock at sea. for months they load the couches directly onto congo ships, many billions of dollars in subsidies fuel this home full time during the oceans. the chinese ships like this one. this specially designed to catch squids the animals are attracted by powerful lights at nights. these bite supplied the horses mainly in the indian ocean or work of south america. these images taken from space, show light sources of the coast of patagonia evidence of chinese ships hunting for

squid. the o, sorry, sees a role but powerless. there are a few ways to monitor the waters. and even if there are countries have no authority outside is that right and territorial lucia's green piece was monitoring the indian ocean some months in the summer of 2021. they were that the documents of the fishing did legal fishing with the home of type nets and on the phone. in the meantime, they've gone back to using just nets. they were banned 30 years ago by the un cronan, but just a few months ago in the indian ocean, we were able to document kilometer long that's being deployed since we've been on these are known as well. guns, very thin, barely perceptible filaments of often made of night long visual asthma, garnish bonding behind for kilometers. i'm deep in the ocean, hanging me to bite long one's teeth their left a long time and taken everything that drifts along in the water of us. and they

don't only know their targets and bases such as to know or sort fish shap, fish, the simply star turtles. cellphones with wells sharks, raised and many, many other animals that are not on their list at all. and ultimately only go overboard as unwanted by cat and fishing was one of interest by fung blocking the this is the next. as in the campaign was evaluated at green peace headquarters. the activists of 9 for a long time, the life on the high seas is like nice in the wild west. yeah. or illegal fishing is a fishing and disrupt 2 fishing practices. continue to swift, an ocean life and know that the, let's find the boot and the other ones are going to set the latest figures from the

u. n. food and agricultural organizations said quite clearly about 60 percent of the world's food for stocks are exploited and exhausted. to their biological limit drive and around 30 or $32.00 are severely depleted sense and that means more is being removed from ecosystems. me more fish are being fish in the oceans then can replenish themselves biologically. and naturally you question on the tradition did not fox and come is too many facia taken, and stokes cannot renew. this also affects the fishes like here in the west and baltic sea fishing company located knows if keel is looking for ways to secure the future of gemini, small scale fish's mom,

the a study has shown that college has almost disappeared and tearing this throughout the staple catches of the baltic has been unofficial for years. as a result, the eu has almost completely banned the catch of both fish species father and son, maya are able to continue because they switch to different species and fish sustainably. we've always been fishers and you could almost say since time in the morning it's our lives passion and the best job there is look around freedom, beautiful weather today and whatnot. wonderful. no stress, no annoying people kind enough to mention on the actually there's not much to allow for that small scale fishes on the baltic of becoming a raspy. she's themselves the maya's. want to keep working within their own way

whiskey and that's what i'm one of the longest serving fishers here on board. and as long as i'm allowed to pilot a boat with permission from the fisheries trade association, i'll be up the hill that kind of high volume is also fixed, cold and hiring for decades. within the last 20 years, they noticed the stokes dwindling numbers of college in the west and both take a so low some scientist style. they will have a recovery. that's why years ago the maya shifted to only catching fish. this is still relatively plentiful, doesn't good. good, charlotte, this is place. it can, i mean everybody knows that license, i've got a whiteside on for them and it's a knowingly slippery loves you. not as smooth as a meal. it is. this is, this will be the 1st. so you man and it goes healings. we also use

a beeping device by the way, to ward off porpoises. but you can also hear it sounds like it's quite soft now. yes. yeah. there's one here and one at the end of end. they work off each other. i can show you that there's gotta be one every 200 meters. and they scare off the porpoise that, so they don't swim into the net when the minus of committed themselves to fishing sustainably and taking only as much as they needs to. and the thing never the last, they still struggle with you regulations. this it didn't, doesn't it was over them. yeah. it's to send. there's no flash on it. what are we going to do with it? why should we take it with us? i'm just, i just don't get it and we have gloves on the fish having nothing. if there's a like this law applies to fishing with trawlers, it says we have to take everything we catch hold on getting rid of it. so it's counted towards the quota because they're supposedly dead anyway. and that's the basis for this law. yeah. if we don't get it, we're supposed to take it,

but we won't even look because why should i kill it? i'm going to enter it. honestly, it's such a nonsense, at least for us, that's on the full. the problem with this law is that wishing with a trawler is acquainted with gomez, i like like like is it? that's completely idiocy in my eyes pulling up roots. in other words, for the few fish we catch that are too small, like this one here, and we just don't take them yet at all. next, we refused to do so as let me it was divided on. so we're trying to avoid medic, smaller feet by using larger matches and much, much invites are mesh size is 10 percent larger than required. so we bring in good qualities, significantly larger phase. i'll give you this on the initial dorothy close. our profession is really getting a criminal reputation. how does that mean that can't be right of it can let me think of the so that's good news. so now things are about to get bloody industrial trolling lead to this knowledge. international fishing boat so side the baltic fee is taking what the see how to

effect sustainable fishing and sending close to the consumer became the maya's molto on the fish from cortez websites. it's not the buses, so unless we officially say comfortable in life, some of them now i'm writing on the fish phone because we want to sell our fish right away. what do we have? we have macro and we have turbans, and we have placing the we won't make 10 o'clock anymore. so we've got to change that 1st just about $11.00 to $1.00. that just takes a few seconds and then it's up on the fish bottom quotes us side right away. that's something that looks like. lemme cool. now it's reloading fish for court. and there's a new address lloyd showing it back since the pope's big necessary. but that's where we're about to go to cell macro turban place until 1 pm. and then it goes the vegas eyes like, how's the us doing? the right thing is easy to come by. what you can get where you live normally cut off, and that leaves us with potatoes and cabbage,

but that's how we save the world. and that's the point. we don't need huge container ships like we have one right now. there's one coming up behind us. they distribute all the junk from around the world, but we just need what's here. and it's a wonderful product. honestly, i don't see any of the miles saving the world. if everyone behaved like this, the oceans might not be in crisis. and neither would the fishing profession, the after the 2nd 12 more, there was $3000.00 fishing businesses on the baltic coast of shows the harsh time now and the a few dozen small fishes the left who were trying to survive by a sustainable guild that phishing the meanwhile, large industrial fishing boats with huge nets continue to fish as if there were no issue. the

mayas have been fishes to h generations. they don't know whether it will go on. but if it does, then like this, we need a macro and to place to this one. yes, that's very nice into place. yes. the medium size, and that would be all for us. all right? then that 13, you're totally. sometimes it really does happen that we have no fish for 3 or 4 days when the wind blows across the baltic and we can't go out of the could. you just have to accept it other stuff, even though we're not a supermarket, then we can only deliver when we catch some tests,

flipping this is suspicious weston, so to is the house of the oceans. but as a fishing is just one reason why the oceans are in crisis, unbridled over exploitation is threatening the seas. alexandra costume limits this in the end. we will just tom ourselves as well as our environment. the granddaughter of ocean exploration, costume knows the oceans, covers 71 percent of the planets produce halls of our oxygen and absorb huge amounts of c o. 2. right now we still have the opportunity to change how we fish to put a moratorium on deep sea. my name have an opportunity to expand ocean farming in a way that's regenerated with seaweed forest growing around the world and the restoration of sea grass beds and mangroves and salt parsons. we still have

a chance to do that in a way that will actually rebuild our oceans and, and bring that life back. i think sandra costume has set up a foundation. cold oceans 2050 and it's a missed to restore ocean. have a tense. she and other ocean conservation advocates believe the salt list. disrespectful exploitation of marine life needs to end most these eagles that we must make a clear change, of course, towards marine protection and away from expectations. also, it goes without saying, we use resources from the see if we need them, but it has to be regulated environmentally sustainable level. we must prevent all the damage we can print and it's actually extremely late now already. in some cases, we're 5 minutes before doomsday, and then others 5 minutes after arrival. one can only hope that our oceans also

have a future because our future as humans depends on it directly to think that we're still on acquainted with the depth. where i need just beginning to understand what goes on deep below the surface and the significance, these processes have and i phone lines. the energy transition must take place. climate change must be stopped. but is commercial mining in the deep sea west? the risk? you know, we do need a colossal amount of metal to achieve that and that metal needs to come from somewhere. and by all means, recycling is hugely important and can play a role, but it isn't enough to get us there for decades to comments. so new sources of metal will be needed. and um, for gsr we, you know, we're aiming for 2028 as the earliest date for commercial production. after a 6 week expedition exploring the deep sea, the voyage of the islands probably to slowly come to an end. the scientists did

a lot of testing measure being observing on think even if many final test results can only be revealed of 2 evaluation in labs back home. the research is already knew that the harvesting of the c bed was just about unstoppable sean dot com. i believe it will come at some point one box we want development. we want to prove we want a high standard of living. and i think that should be the case for the entire world population. for that, we will need metal in some development m of i from that perspective i thought the companies in what ways continue, continue to research and trying to tap into this tricia here. and then we also if ask your opinion, is to do it since maybe then people in asia, well as blog or so on. but i do believe that at some point the time will come when

the mining will take place on circle plus the young village. yeah, that's a big on the bad touch base because because they're soft pressing less and is this one's different? those are the tradeoffs that we actually have to make as a society, or is it worth it to us to destroy our great, sustainable systems. you want to indulge and this continued long term damage that goes way beyond our generation. is it worth it to us to rec, so i think because we're talking about huge areas of st bedroom by doing nothing. but if we just continue on with our consumption of these metals and don't achieve a sustainable cyclical economy, which we will have completely destroyed, bt areas like the entire body and clipper consumer and come up with an 50 to a 100 years. this will not be on complex. i stood let infinity and we were talking about an area that's 30058000 kilometers. i'd try again to give you the size of your that says in time that we have destroyed nations. of course, we already need to keep that in mind. tom. i was gonna say i've, i've done my fault and the

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