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this is the day the we agree that's naples door is open. that ukraine will become a member of the add ons. let's get there. a clear statements by nato, that ukraine's future, he's in nato prison by repeatedly said we will stand roger crane for the law. we're also working to establish a new need to ukraine council, where ukraine will be equal to nate while ok. welcome to the day now nights are leaders of wraps up 2 days of talks in brussels, making a stock on drafting the wes 1st integrated defense strategy. since the cold war, initial steps prompted by the warning ukraine include agreement on protecting find to understand cables and pipelines. several native members of also pledge more
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military assistance for ukraine, but differences remain over increasing overall defense spending and expanding their lives. they'll be no invitation for you crying to joining the alliance key will be offered a seat on a new nato ukraine council. the, the more troops on the high alerts bet logistics new capabilities for the 1st time since the cold war nato is drawing up new defense plans to address the threat posed by russia. that's to carry them out. allies have to increase their defense spending that is installed backs message in brussels. he urge need to countries to go beyond the target of 2 percent of ttp agreed to 10 years ago. i think a warrant morales also agree to the fact that the 2 percent uh it should not be of some kind of ceiling but, but the mean them because they, they, they realized that there is an urgent need to increase defense spending. the new
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spending goal is still being discussed, as well as the details of the defense plans. and as yet, there is no break through on sweden, the swedish defense minister joined the meeting in brussels, but his country's bits to join nato is still being blocked by hungry and especially turkey. despite efforts by the u. s. and others to pressure on colorado truck it's objections. we welcome all efforts to that good can assure that we can become a full fledged member of the lines by giving them to somebody. and i think it's really the sense of audio sealed sweden getting it full fledged membership is much higher also due to the work that's being undertaken inside made that would strength name, nate, those regional plans, the during the meeting, nato defense ministers approved and you body to upgrade to ties with key if the ukraine nato council, several elyse also pledge to further increase their military assistance among them . germany, which had already announced a 2700000000 the euro 8 beckett's was at the start. so in addition to that,
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we have now decided that we will immediately deliver and number 64 guided missiles for the patriot systems. a very important sign to support the successful efforts of the ukrainian armed forces to ensure our defense, especially now in this special phase, not happy. so the next big issue on the alliance is column. there is the much anticipated summit of nato leaders at least, who in your, in mid july when you cry. and of course has been pushing hard from membership of nature and is even written that goal into its constitution. the deputies, terry schultz has more on why that is on the cods, just yet. for one thing, this nato natal ukraine council, he's talking about is an upgrade from a commission that already exists. so they are holding those meetings. they're just going to move up the level at which they meet. and the other thing he says that they all will agree to move you crank closer. let's not forget that. back in 2008,
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ukraine was told that it would eventually become a member of nato. so that's the basis the crane is working from and, and what they very much wanted from this summit was to move up the invitation to become a member of nato. and to be given a membership action plan or another timeline about how quickly that could happen, that's not something you're going to be able to get allies to agree on with, with conflict raging on ukrainian territory. that's just too complicated. so when he talks about finding ways to move your crank closer, that's ways to get ukraine ready to become a member. once they feel that they can get all 31, possibly 30 to soon allies to agree to welcome keith in to be alliance. a team of legal experts assisting ukrainian prosecutor. so as i say that it is highly likely that ukraine's could have cut down was blown up by explosives planted by russians. the international human rights law from global rights compliance issued
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a preliminary report on the blast and says it may constitute a will crime because good that is under russian control and was breached on the night of the 6th of june, causing extensive flooding. the settlements and agricultural land on river crossing bolts and suffice to a large part of the population. the destruction of waters as essential for irrigation is also expected to impact. finally, the group described the destruction of with them as part of a calculated plot to stop, to arise and force the capitulation of ukraine, regardless of the cost. got you out of the case from the global rights compliance. she joins us from the okay, welcome to the w. flooded me approach. it says the west blue up the whole down. who do you think look it up to say that the witness statements of explosions being had. i think the seismic readings that we've analyzed, the imagery analysis demolition next. but we've relied on of old fairly
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conclusively let us to rule out that this was a ukrainian attack when it's on his own damn. and nobody has, at least as far as we've seen, alleged any area on the tack of the sold. and i think based on, on what we seen on social media reporting again as a set on open source intelligence and including the site visit that we had last weekend. the most likely cause i'm in all of you as bad as pre in place explosives placed by the russian minute, treat themselves with in the them itself. and really, the fact that the, the russians of the time had free access and were in occupation of that them makes this much more plausible. that it was, that it was them rather than the, the great inside. so if you're correct, then this is, this is all about pre meditation. this means that somebody planned this plan to
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them and wasted for that moment. the, the information that we stated that it's very early in to this investigation certainly would seem to suggest that there were any reports in october of last year that russia may have already been reading them at that point with explosives. and so there seems to be a suggestions that need that, but this is something that was delivered right out and when you're given access to the dam itself. absolutely, yeah. so the team with, we understand the 1st investigative team, labor rights compliance. and i'm april justice team was done that with the in special criminal coats, dedication and the office of the prosecution. right. and so just blowing up with them constitute a war crime. it absolutely, it could. i mean it's that the show tensor is, is, is yes, i'm a cool of course would need to make that determination. that's not something that,
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you know, we would be able to achieve the case upon. but again, i think even what we've seen so far that this really has the hallmarks of a range of different potential crimes or indeed crimes against humanity. the will crime that we have a nice case before it gets started has been the will kind of stop ation. or indeed will crime of excessive dest, a injury or damage. and that really is the next, this, to this wide spread and long term survey, damage to the not sure environment that we're already seeing. so our initial focus is typically to run this through an international humanitarian law assessment and to understand which of the fundamental principles of i shall have been violated. and then moved to a consideration of which war crimes this might be my engage. right. and how does your work time of act of i've a international criminal court and investigators. how do you, are you supplying that with your evidence?
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and then then taking it forward a yes. so with, with independent of costs to the international criminal quotes investigation, they have a separate mandate. we are supporting as part of the, of trustee crimes advisory group. and we have a number of different move out just as teams. and this particular team that's focusing on the them investigation is part of the salvation may about just as team . and so any information that we find that we're satisfied has, has gone through and our analysis of the investigative methodology. then we would share that with the international criminal codes, and we plan to do so at the end of this program, which would be and file and what's known as an oscar 15. i'm in plate of communication. sorry, i'm, but along the way would be, it would be sharing that information with a range of different state code as most principally the office of the prosecution in ukraine. and then the un commission of inquiry on ukraine and european
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prosecution authorities as well. and so where does the money come from, who's funding your work? so as i said this, this is a part of the platform and the a trustee crimes advisory group, and it's a multi dana console team. this particular, this division team is, is funded by the netherlands, who have been alone, support the of conflicts and 100. i'm promising analysis to advocacy and accountability for that particular crime. that the, a trustee crimes group and the may. but just as teams is a u. s. u k, u e you could so right, so having dealt with the cova dom, do you now go and look for something else to investigate but how does that work? yes, they say to this investigation on an attack, some critical infrastructure instead of ation is an 18 months investigation. and we
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have 3 specific pillows that we're looking at. so pats and attacks of which this would fall within. i'm also going to be looking and are looking at mary paul and the, and a number of different incidents that occurred within that stage. and particularly with a view on humanitarian, accessed by nations, and attacks on critical infrastructure within mary paul. and then the said to let is a tax on agriculture and grades, so we will continue furthering our investigations specifically on that them itself, but alongside a number of different concurrent investigations. because it's very clear, we thank you for your time. wish you well with your efforts to catch you and, and build up from global rights compliance. thank you so much. thank you very much . thank. he asked, the boy continues. thousands of ukrainian soldiers have been killed and injured fighting for that homeland. some of the injured to return to battle despite the
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serious injuries and dw is max on. this has been talking to one of the training to flight in the trenches. it's difficult enough. some things don't help with a blast took off part of your hold on linux leg, and yet he's back with his old units getting ready to fight again. it was emotional when he returns photos, of course, at the so once the soul gets, i used to my anger so that i didn't turn it on my brother's, but i went out and shot back at the enemy routes and it was calm. i relaxed for cool in the lobby, so hard as a career soldier. he joined up when he was 18 initially with the artillery and then later as part of an assault breaking. watson throughout the winter since i'm moving to the present to it was the 29th of september. so so that he would recapture the position somehow. and there was always a much more these a truck, these instantly,
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these were all charged easy to take a look. what was the quote to not vision devices, scopes the pistols? it was just a caption position to provide them with the squares. the broken equipments and the emotions were overwhelming just well off the automated machine guns, all these trophies thought that one of them can dollars. they left behind, every thing is um, at the most interesting thing, collision is lying in the trench. this is the russian liberator. it was emission like that which changed his life. you hold on his team were in charge of clearing a russian position. after they've killed the soldiers there, he went in to check and stepped on him. i loved the proposal for a moment, his fear of being taken prisoner was overwhelming. and otherwise i'll send you back some additional moving. i was like i myself 1st aid. as soon as i could and just lay down to knock a stock, then i go to the skid and i wanted to shoot myself well,
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but then i thought about my parents logic and know it's just a leg. then they used to live on like a bulk clean the year old. it's more of a sometimes who don't purchase and swells any fines that frustrating. what you hold has largely gotten used to his new situation. most someone that's a political you see i haven't had serious uh but they cut off my leg just before the test said, oh well the book means that the 2 parts you truth. and while i was going to this leg as well, into the one piece of shrapnel here, but what you put on here, i'm going to put it in the barn here with a couple of days. 3 in total father. he needs his legs to work, to rejoin his unit and fight again as an infantry soldier. but your heart tells us doctors were not happy about his wish to go back to fight. and his family and girlfriend were fiercely, i'll post a single scene. you turn up all of the same points so absolutely. everyone was
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against it. yeah, i, my girl was 30 but i said, you know, as far as all, we have a judy to the state to protect it. okay. and you, because in ukraine to be honest, uh no one wants to find someone, but i was on vacation and my full, my friends was sitting at home, drinking and hanging out for the normal because of the he's already been back to the front line. of course, fighting is more difficult than before. he has to move quickly through mode and climb over obstacles. his comrade support yourself and his commanders are glad to have him back to satisfy this, it is available. everything is decided by the medical commission. yes, it's a fight that wants to return, we don't object citizen because with you who are, believe me, everyone is proud that he didn't lose hodge to see what he's doing. well, i'm willing to ask the for the position for the closeness of us. sure. no, but you see process of there are no official numbers on amputees returning to
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combat. what you hold is not the only one last few months change time. he says, yes, of course, to where you realize that little more angus surfaced just so lost and a desire for revenge will fit the loan. it's necessary for me to take revenge from royal blue. should based upon my personal opinion, is that after your injured in, you need to come back ship. if that's a show that you can do more for the type of that you will have to live after we left, the hoard accepted an invitation to norway for further treatment. he's planning to return soon to take on the russians with the brand new prosthesis. you're a secretary of state and to me bank and a few to hold talks in china from sunday as washington seems to be enforced lines of communication with the leadership in beijing. this is the visit that was
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postponed from february after the wes shut down, the chinese bible, the titles between the 2 sides all by the stablish, but us officials complained that it's been difficult to get that chinese count. deposit to the phone in times of crisis. pensions are currently high, of course, especially of the issue of taiwan. so it's part of china says it's always ready to talk. is foreign ministry spokesman one when they they found the order down to the us always talks about the need for dialogue, communication, the door to dialogue and communication from the chinese side is wide open. communication between the 2 countries has never been interrupted. you can meet with them, but tom, joe is a senior fellow in the nuclear policy program of the comedy in dowman for international peace is also a physical research scholar at princeton university science and a global security program. welcome to the w. so the us says more needs to be done to keep the lines of communication open. emily heard the chinese foreign ministry
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spokesman that say the phones are working just fine. so who should we believe? i think uh, both sides. uh, technically right. uh, the hot where all the hotline sees radio available um after the dealership novel, you guys on china has established a leadership hotline as early as 1998. and between the 2 countries, top monitoring on free shows the set of defense telephone ink as early as 2008 . so the hardware is tap into the available the. the issue is whether a china would pick up the phone at a time of a crisis. how much china wants to make is use of the hardware and whether trying to inquire, face of would refuse to pick up the phone as a means to impose car se leverage on the united states. but also besides the shop
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hotline, there is a bigger issue of whether senior dieters from the to a size can meet and how the extends. they've conversations in person. we know that a single point stronger read i dialogue of the 2 countries defense the administers me sure. can does that is not enough to solve so many a big disagreements between the 2 sides. so we should be pleased with this visit is going i had to tow. so it's definitely to me, very uh, useful. i'm waiting to resume a senior level of dialogue and engagement between the 2 sides. we know that a high level of diplomacy was a freight frozen since the and the incident. and now it looks like a china is again, pay attention to the importance of stabilizing relationship with united states,
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even though it's by century link and is going to be more symbolic than the substances. but still, with these high level meeting taking place, the to will make a much more easier and the possible operational level, engagement and discussions to, to resume. there are so many specific issue areas in which the 2 countries have jenny and overlapping interest. and this will create the right political environment, which is china. thing is so important for starting comprehending, face biological engage. and so how does the centralize ation of power around the issues in ping played into these communication difficulties as well? i think the centralized ational power under mister, she is a very important variable in a biological relationship. one of the reasons,
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for example, the chinese media, tre. officials have been reluctant to peacock phones at the time of crisis is because they need to get approval from mr. she 1st before talking before they kind of feel comfortable talking with their american counterparts so that centralization play aids, obstacles in timely discussion between the 2 sides. but the more important it is in a highly centralized the face of the leadership has no work bill and ideological values is so much empty, fired across the country to buy soon. china is powerful walkerson, which means when mister, she has this fundamental concern about american value with american page cost system. as posing the existing show threatened to china's region scared again in physical security. and when mister,
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she's personally is calling for china is party carters. and the official with the general public to adopt a fighting spirit that makes chinese officials across the board to try to stand up against the perceived american hostages hostility. there is much less appetite on the chinese side at the operational level, to make the necessary concessions or to conduct the necessary self reflection on china's own foreign policy behavior. so yesterday we, we heard from david sacks from the council on foreign relations that china is deliberately becoming more aggressive and unpredictable. knowing that the us is keen to cool things down that he's even suggested of, of us should respond in kind. do you know, just to give a basing a pause for thought, what would your advice to the white house be as well? um, i don't think of a tit for tat strategy on the american part of would it be useful
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to develop a pragmatic, unstable relationship with china? we have to recognize that a today in china is very close to information environment based gene genuinely attributes. all of the troubles and the problems, you know, biological relationship to american behaviors. a lot in china, things, it's all because of american prop occasions and hospitality. so under facing environments, given the how china has convinced itself that all of the problems are caused by the united states. i think unfortunately, to the white house, we'll have to take the initiative to reach out to china and try to pro, actively a craft. i encourage human strategy that would help clarify american strategic
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intention and reduce chinese misunderstanding of american policy. right. so it's a brief event. you said that this, this visit of secretary blankets and we shouldn't expect to anything a substance to come out of it. so they go, they told me they shake hands, that they look at the cameras and that so we can expect really as well, we don't know yet. or perhaps there will be a some important meetings with cabinet members of the chinese government. of course, the biggest indicator of chinese attitude is wiser. secretary branch and we'll get to have a meeting with chinese paramount lead or mr. she, if he gets that meeting that we'll show that china now has to have a country, a re adjusted is approach to where's the united states. okay, so we will have to look out for that one over the next couple of days. so thank you for outlining that. so clearly for us, tell me joe, from the economy,
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he endowment for international peace. thank you so much. i this and today is almost done the conversation of course that continues online. you'll find this on social media channels at dw use, as always of course, the dw box, or d, w dot com, have a good day for great weekend. the
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