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the, the, this is dw news coming july from berlin. china tells us to choose between cooperation for conflict. that's the message following a meeting between us secretary state entity blinking and trying his top diplomat long lead will blink and be able to comb tensions when he sits down with china is present. also coming up the destruction of a major diamond ukraine,
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leaves thousands without clean water and raises new questions about the safety of a russian that occupied nuclear power plant plus electric, nevada, and the russians best known kremlin credit goes on trial. again, we track down one of the supporters who refuses to be intimidated by russia's attempts to silence defense. and intent is the build up to wimbledon continues with american frances t. off of dashing the hopes of german late bloomer, the unlimited store industry offline. the voluntary margin good to have you with us us secretary status in beijing on the highest level diplomatic visit there and nearly 5 years. and this comes as both countries are looking to stop tensions over a number of issues from escalating into call of leg anthony blinking began his 2nd
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and final day of talk spine meeting at china is pump diplomat wong. he is all now also slated to meet with chinese present. she didn't ping shortly. that's been confirmed now by the us state department journalist probably in crunch, but is in beijing covering the story for us. we asked him what he makes of that quote we cited at the beginning of the show. that's what this tells a lot. i think the official rhetoric by the chinese site is extremely concerning. why? because it does not leave much room for finding a diplomatic middle ground or a compromise. it basically planes, all of the planes all the deal to what's the us tight, i'm quoting one ear. he said that um the um, the responsibility for the historic and low point between the 2 countries at nice. so within the u. s. a quote unquote wrong perception of china. and here the u. s. 2 d p reflect, otherwise, that could be any export on quote,
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a strategic surprises. and this is really a very concerning rhetoric, in my opinion, what would you say? fabia is the biggest source of tension between china and the us right now. well of course the list of the stupid topics is really extremely long, but that's one conflict that has the potential to escalate into an open one. that is the concept of what i want the democratic governance island south of china and yeah, facing claims territorial power over i am taiwan. and it also insist that who can resist the right to use the military if means. so basically it put a stop in invasion, it doesn't have any um deadline to do so, but i mean, that is basically on the table. and if this worst case scenario, what's happened? i mean this would lead to a deep split between a china and the west. and of costs would also lead to what's the human tragedy?
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so there are massive tensions in this. i know american relations. can this visit by the us secretary of state do much to turn things around fabio. that's what this with it's basically proves how difficult it is. to turn things around, but um yeah, basic communication is the precondition to at least to try to turn things around and, and maybe not today. you know, it's cheap any to, to commit to break through, but at least it's cheap. but this, them, the onboard spiral. the spiral of escalation, at least the stuff that it doesn't get any worse. and i'm so far i believe it's the 1st um meeting with for him and it's, it's, it's in gun was kind of costs us to be optimistic. those were a constructive talks describe by both sides, but today i mean the most, he was really quite for us to be between the talks between um blinking and one e. so it's really difficult, but i think it will be very important to establish talks again, and especially to establish talks between the 2 militaries of the countries. now
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general is probably in credit for the, from the chinese capital. and we'll be checking back with him throughout the day. now the ukraine, which says it has liberated 8 settlements since it's counter offensive begin. earlier this month, a russian installed official has made a rare admission. the ukrainian forces recapture the southern village of p r k, p. f e cuts the meanwhile moscow says its soldiers have repelled ukrainian. advances in the countries east. both sides are suffering heavy casualties in the fighting. that's according to british intelligence. we bring them up alongside the war of attrition on the ground in ukraine, a parallel digital conflict, so called wizard war is seeing ukrainians harness the power of drones, robots and more. and it's private us companies at the cutting edge of tech that are supplying the latest software to help on the battlefield. we have this look now at how artificial intelligence is making his way into modern warfare. this
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is a high tech robotics unit, ukrainian soldiers and volunteers who signed up last year via twitter. their workshop is this basement for the minor wizards of the wizard war the same as well. they might, as it used to tune is engaged in reconnaissance with the help of quad comforters and recognizance with the help of wings. we also deal with drops improvised explosive devices and ground, and eric dragged around bushes. right. ukraine has now for months, had access to much more than its own soldiers. ingenuity us based commercial firms like palin tier, provide a range of battlefield intelligence services based largely on satellite imagery. these soldiers in the field can use mobile units, assisted by artificial intelligence tools to let them know what the enemy is doing before the enemy knows what they're doing. that allows you craniums to target enemy
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forces they couldn't otherwise see. the computer systems learn from each mistake, also known as machine learning, a key part of artificial intelligence development contained in so is it a, uh, an action on the battlefield? as a, as a series? i think the trouble begins with the term a, i mean what is a i, we know that the goal posts with which we define what a i is constantly moving. so what i would say is that for sure we have seen some very, very interesting innovative. you know, things happening in ukraine with regard to using software and using modern communications infrastructure for surveillance, intelligence and especially also targeting purposes. so you know, the kill chain, which means basically the amount of time that you have between detecting a possible target and then engaging the target and trying to destroy it. that has, you know, been sped up considerably on the retaining side because they're just so smart with
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regard to using, for instance, drones and using smartphones and using other devices. and that, you know, they, you know, were able to, you know, shrink this amount of time to, you know, mere seconds. whereas the rush of still takes a long time with that targeting and with detecting targets and then engaging them well. and yet much of what the world sees as pictures like this artillery tools that seem to stretch on for months. troops dug into trenches on both sides. a style of warfare that's largely similar to world war one over 100 years ago. a far cry from the wizard's workshop or slick silicon valley promotional videos. there also questions about the wisdom of relying on private companies like power and tear, or space x, which provides star link to satellite tax that allows ukrainian units to communicate
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on the battlefield. what if these companies offer their services to the other side? and what happens when russia and china learn from what's happening now and develop their own systems? right now, the world's militaries are watching new cranes resistance as closely as the future of war take shape. while on the ground, it still looks a lot like the past. more we're joined by military analyst marina meyer, and she's with the worst studies department of kings college london and joins us today from munich. we're the, is it safe to say that at least for now ukraine does have the technological edge over russia in this for good morning, terry. um, well, depends on which areas we compare. for instance, um, in terms of uh, air power button would say is that flush, it probably has the upper hand, but we've heard now in the report about an,
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a assistive technologies. and certainly ukraine has been bolstered in terms of its technological capabilities. these, that'd be russia in this specific domain. that being said, russia is now also trying to introduce a i based watkins to be used in, in that's so called special military operation such as it's era defense system as $350.00 beach us, which is allegedly an, a i assisted and that can shorten the kill chain was still an operator, giving the command to him, destroys a target. how much of a difference is a technology making on the battlefield in ukraine? in your estimation, it is very difficult to say right now in terms of the different the, the i makes, we can only assume that it can increase the operational tempo and shorten the south
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kill chain because the kill chain is a process. essentially you find the target, then you, you watch the targets movements then before engaging there, there are 5 stages. so before the target is destroyed and this is old on by kind of different units. when you use a i, in that specific scenario a, i is able to process the data on the target much faster and, and decide wiser to engage the target on not meaning that it exceeds the capabilities of human operators. the problem is, of course, the target itself has the identified the correct target, and what happens if the risk collateral damage your, if the target is identified in a wrong way. so for now, what we're seeing is that, um the a i being used on the battlefield, gibson edge, but there is still a human operator which kind of flows everything down. but the insures the safety of
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the use of sites you all the items. what about the information and propaganda front surrounding this war we're seeing a lot of this information is a i playing a significant role there as well as well as these from, from, from the russian side. um a i can speed up the process in generating this information and perhaps if there is much save for to let i do the job, then keeping a i control over a certain weapon systems because there is no collateral damage per se, except that it can generate a huge amounts of information to floods, the information space in such a ways as a human being is not able to distinguish what is true and what is not in russia has been used to ai and we know that full farms this you on, on twitter, we've seen many examples of that being used as part of its information war against
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western countries. and i think um, as we go forward the use of a i full site specific purposes will only increase or in a thank you very much. is always that was marina mirror and from the king's college one. thank you for having me. meanwhile, the destruction of ukraine's huge kirchhoff cut them in the russian occupied se continues to unleashed devastation on a bass scale flooding his force. thousands of people from their homes, while others have been left without running water for the water. not a single drop irina troy and lives in nic upholden, southern ukraine. and since the dad was destroyed, the city's water supply has been cut. you're fairly spoken with volta and bait with it. then we put the volts in the spacing and use it to flush the toilets. and what else can we do? there is no alternative. mika, poles,
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roughly 50000 remaining inhabitants. now have to go collect water containers for cooking and cleaning. we. when we come home, tired from work, then we only go once a day to collect walter, just enough water to wash our faces, to go to the toilets and make tea, to wash our bodies. we have to go collect water on the weekend, the seats, from which so sometimes you choose here for 2 hours and then the end, there's no water left. this time the reno was fortunate. she's here the right time . she's not just collecting for her, so she's a social worker and is providing for the team to elderly women who called wolf to get the water themselves the car into rights to stay in for the parts of the duel. since the time was destroyed, the water level, and then the po river has full and by several meters. on the other side, the separation nuclear power plant occupied by russian forces since the start of the war. the huge,
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expensive water that long separated the 2 sides has now been reduced to this. only 12 kilometers the pulse, mika, polls inhabitants have lived on the russian shilling for a year. the address to send you will just my windows are broken, but my neighbors were hits. there was a direct seats in the carriage was a home of the time. it was very much we were still talking with grub truck. is that austin's to both deal with all the, with the shelling the water supply issues and then you could have punch nearby nickel poles, district leda is worried for his cities. future. nice movie efficient. there's no practical model or examples for how to deal with this situation. so we don't know what will happen, but it's a major problem that requires urgent intervention from the international community . the me. so let me look at that a little, but he's looking for solutions to restore the water supply. but until then, you could fall, we'll have to rely on it's fiber gate. the latest court case against imprisoned
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russian opposition, politician alexi and a vanity begins today. investigators accused him of creating and financing an extreme is group. but so of his most vocal supporters had not been deterred. c, w caught up with one of them. the protests in russia always seemed to end with images like this. the demonstrators who took to the streets to celebrate, i'll explain of vinyl birthday this month. already knew they would probably if getting yellow stuff panko was one of them. she took to moscow was red square to call for freedom for political prisoners. the 27 year old was arrested and spent the night in jail for her. so for it, if not binding, she was lucky to get away with an administrative fine. yeah. for the word i suppose the next in a valley because i think he's a politician. he's prepared to openly and honestly about the problems in our
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country. problems like corruption, the lack of democratic change in russia's leadership and people's living conditions of the stiff locally of game. yeah, of course started supporting, i look, say, now vine, the after watching his corruption investigations, international politicians online by me book looting the viral video about what do you mean, inclusions from legend palaces, alex a nevaeh and he has been in prison since 2021 on charges many believe are politically motivated. this year, his lawyers have complained that he's often held in solitary confinement and has been suffering from severe health problems. rushed investigators have now opened further cases accusing the politician of extremism and terrorism. the authorities have made any association with him, dangerous experts say yesterday with you, if you're an active supporter of alex and yvonne the for example, someone who takes pos and protests, you could end up in jail the day after you go out and demonstrate over what was comfortable and if you're at support, uh and you post something on social media that has anything to do with alexis
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devante, that means the authorities and security services who are monitoring russian citizens . what have you on that right uh. and any misstep on your pods will be enough to get to into trouble. nobody's just almost a week as much to we've got to just put the lenient a daniele. it's jeff pinto never works in nevada. these offices, or for his anti corruption foundation, which is both already been labeled extremist. but she knows that the authorities are watching supporters like for 250 and he had tended to protest back in 2021 and was detained a week later. police said they found her using more skills. network, a facial recognition camera. yeah. and you have one you was, i don't plan to stop expressing my political opinion. you. i plan to talk about it bravely, honestly and openly. because i want to prove that bodies possible. i have rights that are outlined in the russian constitution. those rights guarantees. and the government cannot deprive me of them. because most players underneath the
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veneer of normality stories like gifts, guineas are being repeated across russia. the kremlin has been cracking down on all critical voices, especially since launching the full scale war and ukraine making fear. part of the fabrics of everyday life. authorities in pakistan have arrested 10 alleged human traffickers, days after hundreds of migrants are feared to a drown in a shipwreck off the coast of greece. local media in pakistan, report the 300 pakistan. these died in the tragedy as many as 750 people are thought to have been on the boat. just over a 100 people have been rest let's go straight to pakistan and now journalists use rush. us car is covering that story of those 10 a legit human traffic or is that have interested impacts then your so tell us more about those arrests. the pakistani authorities have made are the, or the,
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or best directly related to the tragedy that just occurred off the races coast. it's absolutely what we all enjoy. this box on federal investigation agency has arrested at least 10 persons in this new case to make for more international arrest in connection with this particular incident that has left schools of boca sonya, is that what we do know the large wing has been busted a ring of human traffic goods and drivers. show us the reasons constituted a high level 4 member committee to actually look into fost incidents and develop a legal framework webvantage web. i wish such as i'm off for beach again. office tom is in the state of national morning on national slides. you said most optimal, the only the bodies of 12 boxed on these have been identified. yes, i spoke to the box on, on disposable special while ago. this confirmed to me that at the moment they're looking to kind of dna just which will confirm the identity of the box on
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a national. and they will slide those bodies back to focused on what site is done. how much of a problem is human trafficking impact of stuff? a human job j inbox on is a huge, huge problem only in march, the c o u. so i don't member of the box of limits for an oil change. try the news, a likeness similar to just, she was in a boat bounce easily the gap sized just short of the show. we do also know this particular incident, the aspirations of a better life from across the country. we're looking to move to europe is such a veteran fusion. we do want to report this page is human shots because at least $7700.00 of honda and money to new focused on and move towards a better life. but unfortunately, that was not meant to be pakistani media are estimating that around $300.00 pakistan is may have died in that boat disaster off the coast of greece.
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what are authorities in pakistan's saying about the as a parties at the moment i'm waiting to confirm an exact number. but what else sources do indicate that that would be at least $400.00, signing national gap sized vessels. we do know a 2nd focus of the country has been identified with. ringback young people head out from we do know that as i just need is where a majority of those young people a took this journey from. we do also know that in various buckets, a job is where the young people to the journey from so many thoughts of this country have been impacted. what is just to be seen is whether this investigation has been counted up by the high level committee constitution by from the city we lead to any concrete results. we do know that the inquiry report is due to the john . this is the prime minister within one week and went to bed results when asked,
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we use a thank you very much for bringing this up to date there. that was journalist use for a scar, a incorrect, you know, at least 13 people have been killed after a cycle and tore through southern brazil. the storm caused a rental range and the stage of rio grande it is slow uh, flooding neighborhoods and forcing thousands from their homes. a site loan has left this down in southern brazil, under water. darting children's have caused flooding and lens night into your grounded to sol, state. hundreds of buildings and homes have been destroyed, but the locals hold for a quick recovery. bill deal. we are living a nightmare. we're going to need a lot of help from the government out because then we know that the community and the reason i thought it will help us to rebuild his jo bundles. ours with the goal
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is to be live on each. a fast qu, cruz oddest and searching for several people who remain missing here is that you did come on a visitor to bust effective areas and so you'd hundreds had been that's good from flooded homes. i why don't want me to shut up a specialist and what i'm going to now is the time for us to protect those who have been effective staff, shelter assistance. i kind of $0.10 to each one of them. specialists progressively relocate those who are still missing. look at his idols and give them assistance students as special as you. so you're the one we will work hard ones from rebuilding of the cities in february, the se, and the state of saw photo experience. some of the highest, painful, ever recorded in brazil for 60 people died in floods and then slides. next steps the climate change has made process better disasters. most of it and do you send to years?
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so as far as news now and intent is the step guard open, final saw the us is princess t also take on germany's young leonard store. 3rd, santiago, eventually placed victory over his unseated opponent. but he was made to work for advice law, who has found a new level late in his career and just in time for next month will a 33 year old young linux tools has been hailed as world class by his compact rates and friend. the legendary bonus becca on the, on see the german delighted the whole by breaking fresh to yahoo and the 7th game on his way to winning the 1st 664. but see also a bit back in the 2nd set after it finished 6. so the 3rd seated american run away with the tie break to square the much one a piece the 3rd set
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went to another tie break, where after saving a championship, points to yahoo eventually made his class the, the american finally brooks to the home button starts and he was gracious enough to admit to a slice of luck on the finer points, but yeah, match point when i hit the over the 1st all the yep. i one. and then he picked me, you know, who's like, you go to die for this and make this somehow and they went over that and uh yeah, super lucky everybody gets lucky sometimes. but um, yeah, i mean, again, it's incredible max, i'm happy to get through. i already know to say, i just want to start thinking to be fair. and that probably was indeed soon flowing as to yahoo, celebrated his 1st title and grass, an entry into the world top 10. not bad preparation for wimbledon in 2 weeks time.
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is just a reminder of the top story we're following for you this. our china is top diplomat one e has told us secretary of state entity blinking the washington must choose between cooperation or conflict linked and is holding a 2nd day of high level talks in beijing. aimed at the escalating tensions. whitehouse is perm t is about to meet the chinese president changing. pick up next shift looks at computer games of featured actual wars and current events and their story lines. i'm terry martin. thanks for watching the
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