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for 20 years, the song day, a k, a tom lee said at the most dangerous timely fund way was sort of the, as we say, the poster child for the eclipse ration problem. and then it is said, no one has ever seen a stone in the side of the super powers. the world's most dangerous wanted dogs, june 29 on dw, the berlin. 19142 massive bron stagen stern god. it's a center of power hits as you right. chancery we are talking here cause a balance of most important factors off the 3rd right. during world war 2 dispatches disappear without surprise for decades,
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until they turn not on the black market. to advise this purpose, i know that in those circles there was talk of up to 8000000 euro is for both sculptures. when a major rage issues i started in the early hours of may, the 20th a story of germany cost featuring not sees the saw, the associate army and lots of cash. and then i got the call. we have to host the, the late 19 thirty's, german auto st. joseph tour at work and his studio painstakingly the model to law to the lifestyle using claim. if you have them cost in problems, 3 tons of the stuff. the commission for the sculptures was for none of us in the
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sewer at all fit, loves people wanted, the stallions need him and his new rock chancellor being built in the central power during the darkest use of german history the these policies were placed on the need headless office, so they got the most prominent place and the 3rd right. oh, it was very important for the nazis as a propaganda tool. i know this is a sudden ideology can be interpreted as of the have this extraordinary masculinity . they estallion size, the neck is extremely large and powerful. the muscle is completely accentuated. the whole thing suits a certain power divided almost with the horses, dogs, or even line codes. animals play the major role for the nazis, especially the hitler and his commander in chief of the german air force and forestry him and good thing. they used animals for propaganda,
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either to make themselves appear home hostage or to demonstrate that power has with the horses at the rock chancery in berlin. under the nazis, this area was a prestigious excess of power for the big ministry buildings and location of hitler's birthday, much. and if he's new rock chancery today, a child care center and playground. we hit now once made his monstrous plans. it was also, he is the to you arrested scott inside tour next to working horses as they came to be known who horses lodging in life resources. so everything is very symbolic. in 1939, germany started the 2nd world war 6 years later, berlin playing bruin's pitiless 1000, you rise was deuced who are committed suicide in his bunker.
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his 2 brothers horses were destroyed along with the city to sell it st for decades until one day. and where have they beat between the disappearance and reappearance? lie of a 70 years of check, a german history and the crime story. a very german crime story. everything came together, you know, a mystery, the hand of the characters. uh, people with nazi sympathies, the moment that got the 1st picture of the color picture of the horses when i started to realize them still might exist at that moment. i hardly could brief. i knew if we are going to recover the offices, it will be the best story of my life. you know amsterdam. this is where a key figure of this crime story lives in woods. the legendary detective who wants
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to recovered a picasso with millions and oscar wilde's missing ring. i took brand is what is known with a 100 stages. i had 2 colleagues at the time and sometimes we have quite some evidence that we were being fall out. we had to deal with people former staci agents and neo nazis, people with a lot of money. and sometimes we have discussed this and are we was quite certain that we were dealing with maybe dangerous people. a good 600 kilometers away at the end stage office of criminal investigation. germany's top on club was also hearing them is that it was whole since had resurfaced. chief inspector renee,
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a launch was already known for bringing down germany's most grace and the art for jeff. now the inspector was fascinated by the case, heedless, missing horses. a month in november, it started back in november 2013 when an elderly lady contacted us to and she reported that you've been made an offer to buy the horses by 2 o'clock for an amount in the millions. and then you went in the top pick out interested when the lady also gave us a recent photograph in color photograph photo showing the hoarse cultures pop open on the field is good to and the offices in that got my attention for convict the fashion shows you get this horses in front of the plastic, couldn't dictate as a numerous bronze sculpture has suddenly appeared on the underground market on sale for millions of euro's renee a launch and onto a branch 6 off in search of the statues. that was the whole says, even the real deal. the media conclusion is that the sculptures must be
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a fake brand to shoot like everyone else that hit the school since had burned in the firestorm at the end of the war. i salt and most people felt that the horses had been destroyed during the battle of believe we thought they they must have been for generation odell show many forgeries and in everything an odd but also especially in, in world war 2 off. but then brian made a discovery in the last known for the just the dictation weeks before his death. hitler, once again for the last time least the raft, generally it looks at his law, solve this. and then i realize it was taken in the gathering of the rest and see what the policies should be. but the warehouse is that what a golf hippa stuff. so in 1945, the horses weren't even in the room like chancery. soon i found out now these must
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be the re losses. and then i started to realize if these are the real offices. i called about a story about the brand and the launch discovered that hitler did bring his forces to safety as early as 1943 before the start of the bombing rates of the building, he had been removed from the chancery. the nazis wanted to protect the so called area, not like the works of use of torque and honor. breakfast is what glorified strength and power not undoubtedly as loud as the 2 main characters hit, law encoding, even their competitors. they still let you know, everyone knew of their store of and they did love out of course they did all need all the special off. they didn't like model. not while jimmy was losing world war 2,
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the horses with no longer in the chancellor. right. but where were they and how could sculptures of that size and significance simply disappear? they've had the house, us what brought us to the town of sweets and comfortable for that protection along with all the works of od from berlin, and especially from the ice chest, every desire to the plan was to establish a kind of artist colony for nazi out and read some kind of kind of like a head as men of that as well as his culture workshops, which was very large and the works of all the move them to protect them points back . i was glad i don't think so. should we drive to the rates in a small town in the older brook region? most of the land. it was here that the nazis feels a gigantic artist calling in the early forty's. the plan was to supply the entire gym and roy with nazi od lynn new room book, munich. the choice of read. so it was no coincidence on a press,
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another repeat was favorite artist slip to his mind. the house has since been demolished, but his studio remains today. scope to use angle hot looks here presented here. he good boy and this is the studio that was built during the war for on no bank of america. and it was finished in 1943 coats each cottage grove on the old pop crowns bridges off house and even his pool. a school. here, it seems like an ideal place to hide the horses and engelhardt has his own idea where they would get a key for the horses were definitely not here on the estate carpet and they were workshops instigates and the horses were probably their lashania stop. they might to rise right to an tour at competed for hitting this fine. so it seems unlikely, brett,
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who would have had to exclusives on his est pots of the old facts and workshops and bleats, and a still standing. hitler's stallions must have been stored here at some point. but where exactly remains the mystery? in april 1945, the soviet army crushed the result. order reaching greets. and what did the rate army do with nazi ok? and specifically use of torrents brought in stands a lot of an asset questions in this case, it's a black hole. how it ended up the of the land. with so many unanswered questions, we go to see someone who knows a lot about the red army. the museum building calls is dedicated to germany in the soviet union in world war 2 states of mind,
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the soviet troops and it was and how much ok, did the soviet army loot? it was in this house. the gemini surrender in the presence of the allies was signed on the 8th of may 1945. the 2nd world war ended right here. these tables. what does that mean for the read ami live was investing students. the top of everybody knew that this was the last stage of the that's what they've been told us gets they expected that if they survived this, i'd be then they had survived the war and it's not what we know is that there was an order that members of the red army were allowed to send the parcels home for the generals. it was probably the whole railway cars and hired vons done would on there may have been art in them kind of couldn't stop by and get reasons on. was the orders from style and himself to steal. ok. let's get guns. could see which one likes phone. i'm from right from the start, a word trophy commissions to examine specific painting, sculptures and so on. dustin in august on sunday,
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and then they were taken away as quickly as possible. pick up tons. frontier told me is it possible? that's what happened in season that it was the communist. so it'd be me who organize the transport and fest if he had. let's not see horses. that's exactly what seems to have happened. unknown to the detectives in the 1980s, photos had a much of soviet soldiers standing in front of him. was horses soldiers from the barracks and eva spelled just north of the land. one of the largest soviet army bases in east germany, an east german under. and office called slants and also secretly filled the tour at cost is in the ablest while the barracks, the horses, hard to believe. we're on an athletic field. the image is shaped and blood but clearly recognizable the statues from the new rock chancellor rate now. and so he attends where else to aid
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was found on the hunt for eye witness accounts. and we made to men who since he sold the horses, his hands might a full admit of avis. waldrook was one of the few who was allowed to enter the tightly got admitted to base i think this is somebody of, on the 1st time i was weird, i was not very surprised by these huge figure standing there. i thought, well, they're probably depicting some of the typical is darwin, us to really get back like all the central for decades. the whole so stood here. but then one day they disappeared again without a trace. the soviet command said it was for charity. i just go through the when the big earthquake hit all my odd tackle, they were taken away and melted down as aide for the earthquake victims with no part in the am i lot of the command as words were
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a lie. the truth was very different. these good tunes and those sculptures then disappeared in 1989 under very mysterious circumstances. and once again, the story takes that incredible ton. and one series says that this man played a key role. alexander shall go to the club ski, colonel of east jeremy's notorious secret place, the stones, his task to procure a foreign currency for east germany by any means possible. including selling nazi on to waste gym and collect is it's believed that this might be how hitler force has made it across the, in a german border. i don't, because it was clear that this was not actually lead to, he had them secretly sold a part or, and then what's the pots edits to lead to odds transports, and that's how they smuggle them across the, in a german border, as well as horses sold into pieces and then hidden in the warehouse somewhere in
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west germany, for decades. in the seventy's and eighty's, the market was dominated by the russians understands the. because after the war, the russians had confiscated those levels now to you out. and in the seventy's and eighty's, they need a tough currency. so they started a trade secretly to sell these confiscated nazi out to collect as and it was sometimes leo analyses. all bodies can you imagine coming is selling secretly, nazi off to old nazi's. so it was a very big market and it still is a big market. i think we're talking about tens or hundreds of millions not see sculptures from the new rock chance right now in the hands of not us. and susie, is that exactly who's hands and will remain a mystery until 2013 when they re surfaced on the secret market. now the hunt was
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in full swing in berlin, chief inspector alone, she filled me to the shop space with evidence includes sofa that will leading no way. d m a to bon. no, i'm the investigation was pretty much stalled. after several months of intensive research also failed, the sales offers didn't lead us to a good idea of this. one of the factors was that we still didn't know who had the sculptures when investigations died down for a bit of a, but things started moving again in like 2014 people indecent side of things with different enhanced events were all to a brand. suddenly had a lead, a dubious ok dealer code named stephen said he could help. brandon by the horses. stephen seemed to know exactly who had the brand showed up to the appointment with the hidden camera on his jacket. the detective said he had a witch client from the us who wanted the horses and that he was just the middleman
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meeting and a restaurant brand. convinced steve, and that he klein serious. but who wants to see could sell the medicine for america. and they just they left the restaurant to smoke. both sides were cautious, but the deal seemed to be going through the hope that the difficult because it was still on korea who had the horses, but 3 suspects matched at once. we have 3 persons which we focused on and i discovered that some of them had relations to strange people. people who have a big name and
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a neo nazi circles like lawyers and other people, also to a group called steely hills, which is a neo nazi group. i always suspected that some of these money might have gone to the wrong people. brian suspected that the fil, a head ties to put to move. it's a supportive, deep stream is group still a few or silent help known as the nazi princess booth. it's was the door of assess, lead to high and wish him low. but if it's marshal, looked at the money to support nazis, a neo nazis facing prosecution. with that suspicion from trouble to building in 2015, becoming a launch is most important with this guy. when there was that night i was in building, it was dark. sometimes i forget something in a long chance. remember, well think, think again, sort of sitting there and i was given my testimony of freak about his time because
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he needed that as a witness to make these these rates of young done in. we questioned arthur brand here in berlin in may 2015 for the month. that was very important testimony assignment. because for the 1st time she was able to describe to us in detail the people he'd been in contact with quite, he'd perhaps already seen the flight from a z. and what he thought about this case, he has a but he's in finding the most and from all of those things, and 3 persons of interest emerged for us and speech people. we thought we might have the horses become, would have come from the store to the field itself. in the morning of may 20 of 2015 show down 200 police launched right on the 3 suspects. one of those rates took place and bought the con in the south of germany. the search was finally on, but they were no horses inside the what's the worst day of my life,
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the worst day. i could not be there because i was the main witness. and i got more, i'm on the sitting in, in my chair, in the netherlands and i thought, oh my god, i have to go with hiding. this is the biggest mistake of all that. then. okay, the and then i saying, as we has the hot shit, let's horses from the new rice chancery was finally found in a warehouse in thought to climb in south west germany in the position of a respected businessman, identified as ryan and w, the statues recovered 70 is off to they went missing, were immediately confiscated. all the panic went away and there was standing there, you know, somewhere hidden on an industrial area fall. the she is the wall street journal called the, to the most interesting finding decades. the recovery,
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hitler forces made headlines around the world. the vacuum. berlin, 2022 the she found out she said hill, the launch is too nice ones building most of the alps. the boss complex on the edge of building is with the horses were broken and put on display for the 1st time. as part of the unveiled exhibition the traces of the history remained visible. a decision was made not to restore them . sat at the house is a cabinet in story. it really has traces of history all over it unless you wanted
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to proceed to the photo logically. you can start with the bullet holes, which would probably make around 8 for $45.00 to about june, $45.00 for me to place this order, say i need someone to sign inch done. com. it is possible that the bullet holes were made for reeds most on the fire, but it is also possible that soviet soldiers deliberately shot at them again later goodbye as of the other monks on the horse, i hear what it was welded back together after the collector had them smiled across the image um and bought it and then re assembled to kansas moving that someone's going to be there because i'm down denise. and so the next march. and that were made of the abrasion locks from the read about safely see what you can actually see because i when the police transported them, they was stretched the vehicle with wrecked bells invited prescription i it was in the law says raise the question,
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what should be done with nazi on the back office with the question of where the such a thing as toxic art is a big discussion and i'm glad it's being this comes out and i don't want to give a conclusive answer because i think it's the discussion that's so important. i think society has to deal with the controversial monuments being seen in public, not only and exams, but in the case of the houses. i do think it was right that they are in a protected space where people can decide if they want to see them or not. and where they cons have the effect that was originally intended without the or of power, the whole suspense of right to one in the exhibition. the also in the case might a suspend. now says adel seen this host to will be unpacked and presented to the public the
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and so when's this very gym and tale of heat. this host has just the 10 columbus a bee line from the new rock chancery with a once students confident symbols of a dictatorship that was soon to crumble and the detectives. renee a launch is investigating a spectacular new case trailing more on criminals to a grand wrote a book about the case that's being translated into 15 languages. and he's still working, searching for missing out. and the final chapter, a hollywood studio has secured the rights to the material, the thriller about the horses, the choice of the way through the 20th century german history. one day we will very likely see the stallions again, this time on the big screen. ok,
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