[000:00:00;00] a on sunday 5 people boarded a submersible vessel named type and hoping to see the wreckage of the titanic at the bottom of the ocean. almost 2 hours into the journey. all communication ceased . we haven't heard anything from the tight. and since a massive search effort is now underway in the north atlantic, the best case scenario, the timing is floating somewhere and everyone on board is fine. but we just don't know if it is submerged. we do know that the oxygen needed to keep those 5 people on board alive. that oxygen runs out thursday. i'm for golf and berlin. this is the day. the this is alter the washer. it's

a new type of travel. it's pitch black down that it's freezing cold. the seat belt is much tiny. on july 18th, we have clients that are a titanic enthusiast, which we refer to as titanium. you called so you have the front of your face. everything else can fail. your thrusters can go, your lights can go forward. we know more about the names that has been the bottom of the action because we just don't have a survey that you're still going to be saying. also coming up for germany's ex borders, china has been a boom for the bottom line for germany's national security. china looks more and more like a rival. it's a fact that beijing would like to ignore lessons here on the let's us continue the dialogue to understand each other well. and to be able to face the global challenges together. which of our viewers watching on tv, as in the united states, into all of you around the world? welcome. we begin to day and

a race against time in the waters where the titanic st. more than a century ago. teams from the u. s. coast guard canada, anita france, or scarring the north atlantic hoping to find a submersible vessel with 5 people on board miss sink since sunday. the tide was supposed to carry its passengers 2 and a half miles deep below the ocean surface to see what is left of the titanic ticket price $250000.00 for a front row seat. that is the holy grill of shipwrecks. but with each passing hour, a successful search and rescue mission becomes less and less likely trapped in the submarine. under the atlantic ocean, a pilot and full of the men hoping for the experience of a lifetime. a now missing of to the semester, the last contact with the surface one of the people on board is stockton bush,

the chief executive and found of ocean gates inc. the company that provides the dive excursions. others will seen here earlier this year describing the titanic commission. i have seen side, in fact we, we dipped down into where the grand staircase was. we saw some of the chandeliers that were still hanging. it's amazing. the bow section of the stern is completely different, but in the about, the windows are still intact. you can look into port holes. you can go on the promenade deck. it's really incredible. and the full stepping on board, the submarine versus 1000000000 that hey, miss harding tweeted that he was proud to be joining what was likely to be the only mind mission to the titanic. the see, a pakistani businessman, shes dogwood, and his 19 year old son solomon, also part of the crew. the 5th member is named titanic aspect pull on the knowledge yearly us and canadian boats and crossed out and falls,

trying to find the missing submarine. before it's too late. a all right, i'm doing now by says crops a he served in the us navy. he was deputy under secretary during the george w bush administration. he's now head of the defense. think take your town institute, it's good to have you with us tonight. it 1st things 1st, there's been no communication from the type and since sunday, no trace of the vessel. how do you read that? well, that doesn't look good. and that's all has the ability to transmit. uh, gps is gps information if it's on the surface. so if it is, um, they should have been able to do that. the estimate of around 40 hours of oxygen left inside the vehicle that is adding to you know,

the race that gets the clock. i talk to me about the logistical challenges here. we're talking about a vessel that could be brought to it and a half miles below the ocean surface. how do you get to that vessel, save these people in such a ste? yeah. short amount of time. you have to get extremely lucky. and you also have to get lucky, far beyond the that will be on what history tells us. i think the most of the deepest, the deepest rescue that's ever been uh, conducted. um it was in uh in 1973 and i believe it was from a depth of about 1500 feet. yeah. and this is considerably more of that. so it's not impossible. it's just very difficult. what with that,

obviously the object is defined this best. so if you can use gps, i mean if it's below the surface of the ocean, what other technology should the vessel have to allow itself to be found? i mean, can it's invalid 18 or it should have something on board. it should, they should make itself visible underwater. it sounds to me as though it may have that, that ability. and the reason it sounds that way is because maritime controller that are being used to search underwater. and what they do is they drop what's called what we call chargeable each. yeah. and the sort of boys are just dropped, premier play middle and in the water. and they listen. they're listening for an acoustic signal. and that's it. i assume that those plans wouldn't have been shut out. there were sort of boys,

if they knew that the submersible was incapable of shunned, they're going to construct signal. okay. and is it possible, assuming that the titan has submerged what, let's say 2 miles is 2 miles? is it possible for another vessel to go in to catch the titan into bring it back up to the surface, considering the pressure rising. and these factors that have to be considered in order to not kill the people inside. well, the people inside are just don't want to be. they have to be protected. uh from the dangers of. uh, i'm sure say who do quickly you are. i mean, it is and obviously, and i push rice up here. um, the problem is, uh, if they're in tangled, is there some place where they can be pulled out?

um, or if the worst has happened. uh, which would be a pressure break in the hall. uh but is there equipment does equipment exist that could rescue it at that depth? yes. do. do we know, i mean, is there water, for example, inside the tight and i mean we're talking about people who have been inside the vessel now since sunday. they've got oxygen that will take them into early thursday . the, even though if they have what's needed to do survive considering that they could be in a, in a crisis situation. yes, i don't know um, but uh it stands to reason that if they ward the extended supply the air that they can breeze in the event of an

accident such as this. but they would also supply the other things you need to live, including water and food. that would be i would be surprised that they gave them air only and didn't have any other. they're not the thing for them to suggest. oh, yeah, it probably makes it wouldn't make sense. yeah. i know that a lot of people are hoping that this story will have a good ending. the world is certainly watching and the clock is ticking. so if we appreciate your time tonight, thank you. my pleasure. chance throw up. schultz says he wants a more balanced relationship with china. after holding talks with chinese premier lee chon here in berlin, the chancellor stressed the importance of engaging with beijing. we have more now on germany's chinese balancing act. it was a visit marked by symbolism, germantown sloane of charles,

welcome showing us premier leech young, and just like ation with military honors. this suggests that soul still wants to stay friendly with china terminus. most important trading partner, the self, acknowledge that germany needs to diversify its economic partnerships in asia and emphasize the importance of good communication with staging lessons here on steve lets us continue the dialogue to understand each other well and to be able to face the global challenges to get the berlin is keen to stress where the 2 sites can work together. signing an agreement to set up work together on climate change shots on the briefly touched on tensions in the relationship. they called on china to pressure russian to end the war and ukraine saying it must not become a frozen conflict. but lee dodge this altogether, focusing on strengthening economic ties. global economic recovery likes momentum,

so as to influential major countries in the world. china and germany should co operate more closely to make more contributions to well peace and development. one irony didn't escape this symbol journalist salts called on china to provide access for foreign media fight on the candidates and also needs free space and openness. gym and correspondence want to report from china, they need access to do so. we are advocating to that is that some stuff that openness has limits, even in berlin, the news conference and after the 2 liter statements with no questions taking to do it to you. now at the big table by journalist in my article from china table, which provides expert analysis on issues regarding china for policy makers. and it's good to have you with this here. how should we see this visit coming as it does after us, secretary of state, lincoln's visit was changing p invasion earlier this week. that's

a tendency to man, it's a ties this china that fair. it's really broken, especially after the russian invasion into ukraine. the western countries of our augusta china still supporting russia, but on the other hand, people got sort of used to the ukraine situation. and now it seems it's time to re establish ties. and so both events, antony blankets visit and the chance visit falling to the same pattern. we know that relations with china, they weren't helped by what we experience with the the, the pandemic. and now we've got them. we're in ukraine complicating things further, we're is germany's relationship with china headed. the general tendency is to get a bit tougher on china, but especially at chancellor shorts is very far from becoming a fucking. he knows that germany is extremely dependent on china as

a dependency is not getting less, it's getting more recent data. for example, trade in 2022 was even higher. and a new data that came out today showed that even more electronic come components than ever before. came from china to germany and he knows that, and he also knows that a lot of the earnings of german companies become small depend on china. so there's a general tendency to get tougher on china. but at the same time, the chancellor standing on the brake because he wants good economic ties was trying to see dealing with a reality that was created by 20 years of uncle a miracle. yes, the 20 years of the matter adviser by himself. because here for a very long time was part of that a government set up on the america did not see it coming. she didn't see it coming with russia. and she didn't see it coming was, was china. and there's a 2 big things not to see. yeah, is this a huge things out to see?

but on the other hand, many people also didn't see it. and as long as it worked, it worked beautifully. and also the relations with china, the, the actual risk as long as trade relations on normal or not. so high their, their manageable. what we're looking at now is the timeline situation, catastrophic change in relation such would make a bar go maybe an all out in barbara against china necessary. but let's take time one out of the equation for a moment and it just look at the trade and foreign policy. how quickly can germany re aligned itself these of the china not quickly at all. yeah, it took about since china's open moments of china opened its markets, the germans bear their folks talking about the 1st car make a to i have made one of these joint ventures because the chinese state own company, they have been in the country since the mid eighties, so it took like 40 years to create the economic entanglement between the 2 economies. and it will take decades to disentangle it. yeah, that's a, that's

a good point. so germany have to guess trip over its own shadow here. and i'm wondering how much is it caught in between the european union, trying to said it's new trying to policy. and also the following policy that is being directed by the united states. the united states wants something entirely different at, at the moment, say one to reassert their position as the number one global power. this is an agenda that europe and germany don't share per se, but they both say that china is a systemic rival size. it is, and in the end of course, germany and z you play in team us 8. if, if there's a choice, if there will be a hard choice between these 2, of course there's not team china with the lack of freedom and all the atrocities. and under human rights funds that happens there, but it just the usa. so,

so do you think germany will be able to re remain economically entwined with china like it is now as long as it has a signal from the us that the us has its back? no matter what it means. it's like a security umbrella that we've know now for 70 years. the regression is this single bill will always be there. and joe biden is sort of an old school politician in this respect is very friendly to the, to the europeans. he's a saving a, i'd say he's saving us now, is the ukraine situation by giving so much to support your, your transit rush. i can't win that it is not, not short term. and still, he is asserting his position against china, but the future us administration by turnover is entirely different. the ends in europe is in deep travel, trouble because you can't defend itself. yeah. and there's a presidential election in the us next year. i mean, things change abruptly then,

or let's say 56 years that change. um, it could come, let me do this, does germany, or do you think that it's leaders see the need to prepare themselves for these re alignments that are taking place? they realize right, alignments, economically will never come early enough before far as due to react as a new administration also is there a different views and the coalition in germany is the greens and very liberal democrats on foster change. the the values faced foreign policy. yes. yes. the but the chancellor once in a bit slower, it seems also this was part of the message of today's visit and well then think it's going to have you here. we appreciate you coming in to the studio to talk with us. thank you. thank you for the visit of the chinese prime minister to berlin. come this is just after us, secretary of state blinking met with the chinese premier chinese president change in pink and beijing. now, these meetings suggest

a chinese willingness to re engage with the west to help take the edge off of the tensions. but apart from courts or comments, there was very little for the us secretary of state to show, from his talks in china and china still is not cindy weapons to russian to help it fight it to warn you. crane. but there's no sign that the us managing to open the gap between facing and mosque out. and while the us leads west efforts to isolate the russian economy as punishment for the invasion of ukraine, beijing announced today that it's in ports of russian oil are at their highest level since the war began. dimitri, i've heard of it is a political analysts focusing on geo politics and cyber security. he joins me now from washington to beach. is going to see you again. so how successful can the installation of the russian economy, b, b, g is not to the weapons to russia,

but it is probably more and more oral, isn't it? china is really critical note in the strategy. and so far, of course, they have been unwilling to play ball and try to isolate a restaurant. in fact, one of the things that china is doing is not just buying energy from last year, certainly supplying money to the russian government coffers, but also shipping lots of, it's a critical good store to russian, well as not supplying military weapons themselves. certainly a lot of the precursors and materials that are needed to build those weapons are being supplied. and one of the things that's doing is allowing trans shipments, a western goods, particularly somebody conductors to also flow to rush us. diplomacy is going to strike out in another direction this week with the visit of india's prime minister and event remote india. it's also a keen to the customer for russian oil kin washington to expect. any good news coming from mr. moody? i don't think that we're going to get good news on the russian fund from us remotely,

because certainly india is very keen on continuing to purchase russian gas and russian oil at relatively cheap prices. that's good for its economy. it's not going to sacrifice that in the interest of isolating russian. i think the key conversation between the present biden and from mr. moody is going to be on china. that's where the interest of india and, and us are much more line. both countries, of course, are in a competition with china. india has a border dispute with china and is increasingly concerned about china's and plants in the region. and that's where we can see some progress. the economic power of the west led by the united states. when you look at that, do you see it being diminished now by the rise of china in india, we're seeing in their dealings with russia. if they don't get on board with the us sanctions, it can make these sanctions basically takes less as well. the reality is that sanctions have very rarely actually transformed countries,

south africa and the upper tide regime in the 1980s is probably the one example of sanctions being successful. but when you look at our sanctions, policy needs to be north korea or, or around, or even a rock during saddam error. none of them have accomplished the objective of what we want to see of curtailing their weapons programs. in the case of iran or north korea or changing the regime in a rock. so it's very, very difficult for the united states. it's always been difficult to use sanctions to really transform these countries. and of course, one only has to look at the bar, go on cuba, there's been going on for 70 years and still has not had a successful resume change in our own backyard. and here in uh, in the caribbean. yeah, us lawmakers, they are quick to talk about a link between the ukraine war and the situation with taiwan. either suggested that beijing is watching the western response before making his own calculation over tie . one is really so clear cut. what do you think? i, as i'm not convinced by those arguments, certainly present,

she's watching very carefully, particularly the economic sanctions of the us and its allies of put on russia. and certainly it's thinking about what it can do to minimize the impact of those types of sanctions in the future. on the chinese economy. sure to decide to invade, tie one. but i don't think it's going to look at the success or failure of this invasion of you created by russia as a determining factor for whether it should invade taiwan. those are very 2 to 2 very different situations. one would be and if they'd be us naval assault on the island. now there is mostly a land based campaign. and of course, china has had aspirations to take over, tie one for many, many decades. going back to miles time in the 1950s, and it is not contingent on whether russia is able to accomplish as objectives in ukraine. so the argument that is often being made in washington and in parts of europe is that of russia succeeds in ukraine. china will definitely invade taiwan. i don't think that's the case, but also the reverse is not true that if russia fails in ukraine,

it will not necessarily discharge you from a meeting time once. and then there are similarities that you have to admit, right? that we're talking about the word ukraine is which with taiwan, if someone poses the question, how will this is no one can give you a straight, a clear answer either with you crate or was till i want as well. what's i want the goal of us policy really, since 1979 with our one china and biggest policy is to get the ball down the road. right? to make sure that this issue does not get resolved in our lifetime. and we like to make sure that presence she or whoever is the leader in china, wakes up every single morning and says, the date today is not the day. what i'm going to do this. i cannot do this today and in hopes that ultimately they'll be a change of government and china, perhaps where they're going to give up on, on this idea of the time one will get one day, one day will become part of china with, with russia it's,

it's very similar in the sense that how do we get present putting or success or more likely in, in moscow to realize that you credit will never become part of restaurant and it needs to forget it on, on those emissions of rebuilding the russian empire, desirous standby, i'm of the 18 hundreds and 19 hundreds and move on. let me ask before we run out of time, us secretary of state said that he just could not convince john to, to release commit to communications at senior military levels. and, you know, we've seen prob occasions from china, what should the us do that should the us respond in kind of be, should there be some mutual, you know, silent treatment going on? i don't think so we, we don't want to get down to the chinese level, but we need to realize that the reason that they are withholding those communications from us is because they believe that as long as we have a communication channel with the chinese military, we would be more aggressive in our actions in the, in the pacific, and that, that channel would serve. so almost like a seat belt,

allowing us to go faster and that's why they're withholding. and so i don't think they're going to change their positioning time soon. political analysts dimitry up here to rich dimitry is always good to get your take on things. thank you. thank you so much. i and finally, if you've ever found yourself pulling your hair out because your cellphone or mr. mess doesn't work, a police station in india has an age old solution to this modern problem. they're using a guest, it carrier pigeons, surface states back to 1946 when it was used as invested just to remote police stations. notes are written on 10 pieces of paper, it's attached to the birds which can travel for up to 800 kilometers at a stretch, and they don't even have to recharge the batteries. for today's always done the conversation exchanges online. you'll find some twitter either in the w nearest. you can follow me on twitter. it brings dot tv. i remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day we'll see you. then

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