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[000:00:00;00] the, the u. s. has rolled out the political red carpet for indian prime minister and the ridge remotely, the white house in the us congress, making it clear that these 2 democracies, the world's largest and the world's most powerful, are on the same side. we could hear that embodies speech before us lawmakers tonight as well. so does this mean no more neutral india does this mean no more cheap? russian oil is it? finally in india is interested take sides with america. i bring golf and berlin. this is the day. the way that the reverse is different,
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choose united states you did it is one is it will be one of the party relationships, the 21st century, the friendship between india and the us. we'd be instrumental in enhancing the spent, the full was through great powers that can define the course to the 21st century published strong strategic partnership is a clear proof of the follow of democracy. also coming up after 2 days of talking at the ukrainian recovery conference in london, pleasures of billions of years of aid. ukraine says that the task of reconstruction will start even before the fighting. and it's one of the key messages i would like to read that right is that we are starting to build new green this year. we are not waiting for the end of the war. we have the opportunity to support those that pro ukrainian coalition. and of idea is our viewers want, you're going to be as in the united states,
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into all of you around the old welcome. we begin the day with the message for an american audience delivered in india's own interest, the prime minister of india, and the rent remote who spoke before a joint session of congress on thursday. his words weighed carefully by us lawmakers with an eye on 2 other countries, russia and china. we'll dive into that next is in just a moment. the 1st here's prime minister moody from earlier today. now, this is the order days. and india and the largest democracy. a martin loveseat all the bad for the future. the democrats seem to be that you uh, with the flu shot to the bar and the bigger bar to the to,
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to let's go now to our washington bureau chief in his poll. he just was following the speech as i was earlier this evening isn't, was this talking about the things that stood out to you the most were you, was there anything unexpected in what movie set of the i you know, a friend what i find really interesting how who's optimistic approach really resonated within lawmakers, so you got a lot of applause and not of a standing ovation. i think this is kind of what people are longing for. for someone who lives a positive message. he was talking about improvements about growth, about the future, about togetherness, not divisiveness, not fighting each other, but work by the lawmakers. and it took, the prime minister was trying to get about 45 minutes before he mentioned
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ukraine. he did not mention russia. he also did not say the word at china. what, what should we read into that? now that is interesting, he addressed the war in the ukraine and to found a pretty strong words. he said, this is not an error of war. this is an error of dialogue. and diplomacy and then he started and i quote him here, all most we, all my school would be tend to stop the blood shed and the human suffering. so these off from words. but as you said, you didn't mention the aggressor, he didn't mention 14, he didn't mentioned russia. one reason for that might be a india is still getting a huge amount of russian oil and gas. some are saying this doing so they actually fueling the russian a war machine. so marty kind of wants to stay out of this immediate conflict between russia and the united states. and let's stick with china for
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a moment here. we know that both the united states in india, they have interest regarding beijing are those interests or those concerns? are they aligning themselves slowly but shortly? i do think so. uh, and mostly also didn't mention uh china, directly, but he was talking a lot about the importance of standing together uh the united states and india. and then uh, we also kind of have to put in perspective that this visit, i kind of, uh, infected, really a new mentor, them in the defense corporation between the united states and india. uh. so uh, the 2 sides are known, severe for uh, co production and in the of engines full title aircraft and, uh, india, purchases, uh drones from america and, uh they, they kind of, uh, put out a roadmap here,
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a to expense corporations in the, in the defense industry and why is that? because both countries have a deep interest and not only regarding the, the, uh, the, the part between the china and india, but also the in the pacific area. and uh, and especially taiwan. so yes indeed. this is, these 2 countries are really coming together in that regard. it is there is a certain cache, a certain prestige being invited to speak before the us congress and obviously prime minister. but he was aware of that. he spoke a long time about his own country and about the visa pruitt's of india. do you think he needed to do that? is, is there the perception in washington that india needs to convince washington that
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india should be a park as well. a motor is facing a lot of criticism from the engine to marry community from the american community, but also from american law makers. some of the lawmakers didn't attend his speech, the boy positive, because uh, over his approach towards religious religion, religious minorities, especially the mazda. and so i think what moti try to do here. he tried to explain the complexity of his country to give us a lot of huge fingers. how many people live in india that india has 2500 parties. he made some jokes. a that the united states also don't have some problems with democracy here. and by saying, you know, we have 2500 parties and you have only to do is still don't kind of a be as great as what you might want to be. so i think you really try to explain
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the complexity office job. the washington bureau chief is poll, or can use through that speech by the indian prime minister on capital hill. you just say you couldn't find minister says that he's confident his country will receive the $6500000000.00 that it needs this year for its rapid reconstruction program. and it comes after a conference in london where international donors pledge to billions more in non military aid to help rebuild ukraine into we dealt corruption keeps as it recovering from russia's invasion, will be the largest reconstruction project in europe since the 2nd world war. and that russia should pay for my shipment america through mortgage problems. they support the idea of using frozen russian assets for the reconstruction of ukraine. that is what we've been talking about for the last year. yeah,
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russia must pay for all this destruction you for all the tragedies it has committed on you as is committing and ukraine is this new law? is this the union? when i want to bring in the cube or routing, she is a member of the ukrainian parliament and is head of the opposition, homeless parties. she joins us tonight from steve. curious, it's good to see you. again. you know, we just heard from industry hall saying that russia should be made to pay for the damage that it has cost to your country. i want to ask you, as someone who has a direct line to what's going on inside the government, have you been told how is going to work? how are you going to be repaid by russia? hello brian, thank you so much for having me on the program again. so i truly believe that we should talk to all the partners and make sure that it is not our part is money. the a tax payers money that they used for the we can build a few things,
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but the russian money as a phrase now there are at least $500000000000.00 of russian or the guard and states assets that are being stored and frozen under the sanctions. and i think it is completely, i'm fear that these money remain untouched. and meanwhile, we are asking, and we are receiving the supports from the countries that actually supports us. so the mechanisms in terms of the legal and political way, they may be different. but uh, what we see right now is that the intention is there to make sure that these assets are being used to repair for the damage the trash reports throughout the country. okay, but i just wanna be clear on that the, the intention is there, but the actual mechanism to taking these frozen assets and sending them to ukraine that has yet to be presented to lawmakers. is that correct? as well in some countries? yes, but for example, canada have already passed villages,
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distillation and 1st $23000000.00 of frozen my, me all the gar upper movies are already there on the way to be used for the sake of few brain. united states have over the past the bill and they have $5000000.00 in the same process as well. and what we ship cards from our allies in estonia, that they are developing the legal mechanism as well. so that the, then the european countries can mimics that. and uh, uh, having done a really quickly, what do you wish would happen that the united kingdom, that already has the bill in the parliament would go forward with it? because it defines the making these most have, this money can be used either. there are a lot of people watching this story and asking, are we talking about reconstruction too early because the war is still going on? that's one point in the 2nd point is with the history of corruption in ukraine. how
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can we be sure that the money for reconstruction will be used for reconstruction? for sure. so 1st of all, uh, regarding uh, the process of how the money would be used. and um, um we are very open just to add up the process, use to make sure that there is 0 dollars about how the money used. and we have all the, with the experience of the private funds and the public funds that are very good with the reporting. and they have, they will just be patient and 0 issues. regarding when to start with construction. the issue is that we have to exist right now. people who lost the homes up to the terrorist attack at that can hold them, have to find their homes right now. we have to rebuild our infrastructure right now and gets ready was our energy infrastructure for the upcoming winter. right now, we have to make sure that we exist and live and can
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have children going to schools right now. we cannot wait until the water is over, and this is why we have talking about it's about the reconstruction right away. not at some foreseeable future. you know, the progress on the battlefield and the prospect of an end to this for would certainly help to raise more money for reconstruction. so let me ask you, i mean, what stage is the ukranian counter offensive? what stages it at? at this moment the contraceptive is on and all the questions that they're being asked about when we will see some major victories. uh they will. they want me to remind you how the last year's going through a friends who went at this beginning. it was very slowly and it to, it was a lot under the hood. and then we have seen that major improvements and we have seen major results. so i think as of right now,
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there is no doubt that our military commandment is breeland and they have shown as contested results with their capacity that they have enhanced. so from our sides via just saying, let them do their job. and on another point, you know, as of right now, almost every ukrainian family have somebody fighting at the front me so far as it is very 1st to now because for us to consider offensive means that people who won't be live and know personally will have to march forward and then during their life and to having a really, really intensive attacks. and this is why we're looking at it, not as some of you find that needs to happen, but it's actually something where we really want we military commencement to save as many lives as, as it is possible. there is a native summit next month and it does not look like ukrainian memberships,
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and nato is going to be in the cards. any time soon. i want to ask you, will she be content with the seat on the ukraine data council that's being offered? you is that going to be enough? or you know, over the last 15 months we used to hear the word know about everything starting from getting, know for that kind of the senior to be in union so many times then getting know for guessing the task. then getting not forgetting patsy goats and look hearing so many times the words know forgetting it fights rejects, but we learn to push through that and we know our goals. they have read them in, you bring them constitution. ukraine to become an e u member to become a need to member and we will be pushing to get to this result. you pretty little maker cubic. joining us tonight from steve is always fair. we appreciate your time
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and we appreciate you taking the time to talk with us tonight. thank you. thank you . and what to do frame which will lead to the strain on you created hospitals. the european union has been coordinating evacuations of sick and what did people to hospitals across europe. so far more than 2200 patients have been brought to european countries for treatment. and many of them pass through in the back to ration hub in poland. and due to the closure of ukrainian aerospace, the polish airport in j show serves as the closest location from which they can be air lift arrived in safety. the sick and wounded from ukraine brought to the e. u. medical evacuation hub international, poland. many of them a wounded soldiers like unto the logic of who lost one of his hands in a russian assault on his units positions. but it would do um, when you had on the renewed withdrawals, that me,
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you all know it was flying in my direction and i sore it when it was already close and easy. i can only extend my hand and deflect the grenade, but my hand was turned off. is it a little the? the house is located just 70 kilometers away from the ukraine, florida. from he had patients that lift it to hospitals across europe, ukrainian medics. bring them by ambulance across the border is on us. that would be these things. one of the most important places we can bring patients to now, it's extremely important for ukraine, and we are very grateful to our publish colleagues and everyone who participated in organizing this facility for the crystal home use of sofa ava. 600 people have passed through the hub on the way to receiving treatment. doctors from the po to stand to international aid, attend to patients with diverse needs. they have me on that some. on the one hand we have trauma patients, that is soldiers. most of them are very young,
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some have only recently become adults scheduled. on the other hand, there are civilians who cannot receive medical assistance in ukraine. particularly patients with cancer will hear from people that seem to have on the on color the claim is sold. you enter the logic of is set to receive the prosthesis in spain. a very happy. i never thought that i would be also depressed basis, as, as the ukrainian medics return to that country. and really, it's already contemplating doing the same money as i told them to receive a good interest basis and return to the size of those. because the aggressor has taken over our country. and i want to help my people so that we are a free people. sure, so i will continue slicing newton and not all the way up, but you deluxe of what the full, that's possible. he's leaving with other soldiers for treatment in spain. but he
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will pass through the hub one more time on his way back to ukraine. the, the well a grim ending to that search for that small sub that was carrying 5 people. it disappeared on sunday in the north atlantics. the us coast guard says that the 5 people on board died in a catastrophic implosion. the vessel disappeared off the canadian coast, when he was on a dive to the site of the titanic ship. rec, i'm one goes on board, the head of the company that designed and operates the sup rescuers. so i did the pressure chamber as the most likely calls for this tragedy this morning. and the r o v are remote operated vehicle from the vessel horizon, our tech discovered the tao cone of the titan submersible,
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approximately 1600 feet from the fowl of that titanic on the sea floor. the are of a subsequently found additional debris in consultation with experts from, with in the unified command. the debris is consistent with the catastrophic loss of the pressure chamber. upon this determination, we immediately notified the family. rob lauder is a marine geophysicist with a british and artic serve a she has more on the so we're, we're actually dealing with the truck you're digging across everybody's thoughts right now will, will be with, with the families of the, the people who are a seems to be lost to the us coast guard and it is saying that the debris field
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close into the titanic wreckage belongs to the titan. the talk is through that. i mean, how, how can they be so sure of that when we're talking about such a massive amount of water that they're having to search through? how can they be so sure. well, so the descriptions i've seen site, they've recognized a couple of specific thoughts of this up. and this is, this is reported presumably from the search teams to somebody who's a close associates of people who are involved, who are on board and then to a it came to news organizations through somebody he'd spoken to a, another, serena david nuns. so that seems to be
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a fairly reliable chain for information developing story the entire day. we don't want to get to graphic here, but what we do want to try to understand what could have happened if this vessel did fall apart at split 2 and a half miles below the surface of the ocean. i mean, is it possible for rescuers to find any human remains when we're talking about people who were inside the vessel that would have then been, you know, destroyed instant i've never seen anything like that. so i imagine that they wouldn't be recognizable. it's, it's, it's horrible. to think about, but it would have been a very certain events because of the immense pressure it would have been an implosion as violence as a serious explosion because of the immense pressure. so more than $300.00, i must say,
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is pressure. so this is why the building of such deep voice as of last of all this so, so difficult but you know, trying to maintain a normal environment topside against the immense pressure inside. and so any, any floor in the is the fabric of, of the how could potentially be catastrophic in either dr. order. we've had several people this week talk to us about this very vessel. i spoke with a gentleman 2 nights ago who said that he had also been down to the wreckage of the titanic in this vessel. and he said that at the time of it, he saw that there were obvious of the problems with the structural integrity. and yet he still went down in the heat and he was able to come back up. but are we not taking the proper levels of caution and concern with these types of
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luxury adventures when we're allowing people to go 2 and a half miles below the ocean surface? i mean, are we not know, getting serious about things and realizing that these people conduct i mean one thing that seems to be in the james is that in this kind of commercialization of deep marine. so most of goals the, the seems to be a lack of regulation or lack of enforcements or regulation that's, i think, what i would say is, is, you know, today is not really the time to be, to be mulling over. that's into much detail that will inevitably be an investigation of some sort. it's not clear what jurisdiction that will be, let them the will inevitably. i think that there won't be such pressure that the will have to be an investigation. and i think we will then have to be patients and weights and see what the investigation find is in terms of technical issues and in
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terms of recommendations for how the sort of activity should be managed in the future. dr. rob order, maureen, g of the physicists with the british antarctic survey, we appreciate you taking the time to talk with this despite the the very unpleasant incense circumstances. thank as you've been watching the days we will see you tomorrow
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