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in the you know, or series guardians of truth, watch now on youtube dw documentary, the state of beginners live from berlin. a tragedy in the north atlantic, all 5 people on board the titan submersible. the vessel suffered a catastrophic implosion near the historic, titanic, rec. we'll talk to a survivor of an accident as a separate site for his unique view. on this incident, also on the program. the largest air force drill in the history of nato,
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comes to an end. after 2 weeks of exercises in the sky is over a year of it is time for the alliance to take stock and desperately speaking. skilled workers for decades, germany has ad top immigration roles and now mass of labor shortages are forcing the government to change cost plus, relative of the hundreds of migrants killed and last week ship rank. all 3 are waiting for answers about what happened to their loved ones. and what role degree coast guard played as the disaster uninstalled the really it's good to have you with us. the u. s. coast guard says an investigation is underway to find out why the submersible used to visit the wreck of the ty tonic
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imploded. all 5 people on board were killed and the incident authorities, a pieces of the vessel have been found on the ocean floor, around 500 meters from the titanic experts had re safety concerns about the sub before and a marked on the journey after days of age in searching rescue if it's for the titan, took a grim to the u. s. coast guard. along with canadian british and french teams scale with 20000 square kilometers. they're expensive search. i'm covering pieces of the sub gas it on the ocean floor. and the r o v are remote operated vehicle from the vessel horizon. our tech discovered this hail count of the titans of nurse of all approximately 1600 feet from the valve of guitar. atlantic on extreme prussia appears to have crushed the 6 and
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a half minutes of vsl killing. the 5 main on board included the pilot, who was also the c e o of the company, leading me petition, ocean gate. the company was on its 3rd trip to explore the titanic despite the various safety concerns about its expeditions to the deep sea rake. it's just, it's just true tragic and a terrific and it's unnecessary. and by the way, it's not lost on me as, as somebody who's studied the, the meaning of titanic it's, it's greater meaning to us, you know, historically in society that it's about warnings that were ignored, that ships line at the bottom of the ocean. not because of the nature of its steel or the nature of its compartments. but just because of bad seamanship, the company released a statement,
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expressing condolences for the families of those killed. the passengers included a french submarine expected a british billionaire and to pakistani british and business tycoon and has some risk to his, couldn't consume with the bodies of those killed could be recovered. so this is a incredibly unforgiving environment down there on the sea floor. uh and uh, the debris is consistent with the catastrophic uh, implosion of the vessel. and so i will continue to work and continue to uh, search uh the area down there. but uh, i don't have an answer for our prospect at this time and would have brought yvonne so we keep searching for clues about what happened to the tyson. it's remains now lying alongside the rick, it's fish out to explore on the atlantic ocean floor. and we can now speak to
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michael b. yeah, he is a scientist, journalist and author 23 years ago. he made history as the 1st correspondent to report from the rank of the titanic during a dive in a similar vessel to the titan. welcome back to the w, mr. he and now like many others, your how that hope for rescue of the tight and can you share your thoughts after hearing of tragic news? so yes, like everybody else, i was hoping and praying that there could be a met, miraculous rescue. but in the end, i have to be honest with you, nicole. i knew right from the get go that the test could have been a catastrophic failure for variety reasons. one of them being that this vessel, the tightening was designed so that the ballast would automatically jettisoned after 24 hours where the mission was successful or not. it was just set to automatically jettisoned the balance, bring the tight into the surface, the safety plus there were 2 back ups to that one that electronic and one manual
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using compressed air. so when i learned that this vessel haven't pop to the surface within 24 hours, i knew that this wasn't just a communications failure. this was a failure that involved the entire vessel. so even though i held out holes and i prayed, because i'm an up this up in an optimistic person by nature, i knew in the back of my mind this had to have been a catastrophic failure of the entire vessel. and that's exactly what happened. so you yourself had a traumatic experience at the bottom of the ocean 23 years ago when you went down to see the wreck of the titanic after the fateful journey of the titan. how do you look back on that experience as well? i have been living in the agony this past week because i don't need to imagine what they have as what they went through. even though now it's under different circumstances because their demise was instantaneous. but we at the ball during the
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week, we thought they were just suffering down there because i did we my sub, uh, which was a russian so very well constructed, originally constructed for scientific purposes, highlighted by a very skillful pilot. in fact, he was a former mig pilot, so he was used to dealing with situations of life and death and keeping his cool under pressure. but our sub got caught in an underwater current that drove us right into the blaze of the propeller on the stern section of the titanic. it's a gigantic propeller, much larger than our sub. and higher pilot victor, after more than a half hour, was able to extricate us. but during that half hour, which trust me to call seemed like an eternity. we were able to be rescued. so i know very well what it's like to be down there in the middle of nowhere. the north atlantic waters are especially unforgiving their cold, their restless, just like the rest of the ocean. it's a very dangerous mission. and uh,
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i was prepared to give up my life in fact, until right up until the moment that our pilot informed us that he had successfully extricated us from the blaze of the propeller. i had already made peace. i was ready to let go. this unimaginable, what mean you must have gone through. this is early days still, but if someone familiar with dave c exploration, what do you think could have gone so terribly wrong with a titan as well? clearly, something went wrong with the pressure vessel. that is the sea rustling, which they were enclosed. it's pressure rise to fight against the ocean. you have to understand that they, they were about an hour and 43 minutes into their dive. so they were passed half way down to the bottom. they didn't quite make it to the bottom, but even at that depth that they were at, the pressure is, are unbelievable. and they are just pressing in on you in all directions. so there must have been some flow and it only takes a tiny flaw. you've heard the expression
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a chain is only as strong as its weakest link. well, it pressure vessel like that is only as strong as its weakest point. it's possible, and this is only speculation that in the previous 2 dives down to the titanic the titan made successfully, albeit with some concerns. there may have been a micro fact sure that develop in the carbon fiber pressure vessel that you could not possibly detect with the make it i would take an x ray to see that. and it very well might, might be that that was the weak link that, that was the weak spot in the pressure vessel. and that's all this merciless ocean, this merciless pressure that is brought to bear in all directions brought this vessel down. and i, i wonder what make one more point nicole than that is the word implosion is appropriate. it's accurate, but a lot of people are they confusion in their mind with the word explosion, nothing these, this vessel was not ripped apart, even though you've seen piece to there what happened was that this pressure vessel
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gave way, and the pressure basically just compressed it instantly so i would prefer for people to think of it as an instantaneous compression. and the only reason you see other parts is because when that error vessel was compressed instantaneously, it detached itself from the other parts, but the other parts are fairly well intact. this was not an explosion like the us a shuttle when that exploded. and it wasn't like the collision that the titanic experienced during the iceberg, which broke it apart into 2 pieces. so i just wanted to make that point because i keep hearing people that even on social media imagining the wrong thing. yeah, it is very hard to imagine what would happen down there. i do want to kind of broaden the scope of this discussion because there is a lot of talk now about whether or not private companies should even be taking taurus to the wreck of the titanic. what do you think? yes, it's a very important question and i have mixed feelings. i think for certain nicole,
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we should put a pause on a tourist trips to the titanic gets dangerous, even under the most uh, ideal circumstances and it's also sacred grounds. so it's not just going to dock at a ship wreck. i also want to make another point the vessel i was in the russian, it's called near it's a russian word for peace is a, is a very serious special designed very seriously for scientific purposes. it's been around for a long time, it will probably keep making trips to the die panic long after i'm gone. compare that to this type which was designed for tourism not for science. that's a whole different ball game. and i think we need to take a very hard look at these companies that are building these vessels for tourism. and the c e o has been quoted and it's disturbing when i said it. and i want to say this gently, but it has to be said that he made it a point when he was designing this. he wanted to use as many off the shelf parts as
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possible, even spoke about going to camper world, to get some parts for this thing and use the playstation game controller of some kind in order to control the vessel. these are, these are statements that disturb me greatly. so i think we need to pause, find out what happened. i'm not wanting to go so far as james cameron did were jumping to conclusions. let's get the pieces mapped out. that's what they're doing right now. you want to create a create a 3 d map. we want to see what the, the pattern of, of the sample was of the various parts. and then bring the parts up. if you can piece them together. and we can tell where within that air vessel, where was the weak spot. and once we know that information, then we can not jump to conclusions, but then we can make intelligent conclusions. well, reason conclusions and then try to fix it so that in the future, if we allow this tourism to continue, we can insure the safety of its passengers. i have to let you go,
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we don't have much time, but i do want to ask you before we say good bye, would you ever go down there again? i think once is enough and you know, i don't want to push my luck. i was that close to dine and i don't want to. i now really appreciate life more than ever and i, i don't think i would do it. no, just quite simply know. it was kind of some journalist like again, thank you so much for your view and for sharing your story with us today. you're welcome. thank you. nicole. the largest air force drill and the history of nato has just come to an end more than 10000 soldiers from 25 countries. took part in the exercises held them disguise every year of over the last 2 weeks and led by germany air defender, 2023 pit of the nato, a lines against an imaginary enemy. german air force says that it will now review
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the dro this here just under 23. it was not officially aimed at defending against a specific enemy, but demonstrating it could when any war is hell, nato calculates. it won't have to wage one strong off answers your best defense. it is best for everyone to come to a peaceful resolution. uh, but if called, uh to, uh, to activate, were ready to 2 week exercise led by germany simulated a collective response to an attack on nato territory. it brought together 10000 participants from 25 countries in the alliances largest air exercise ever planting began 4 years ago. but situations that may have seemed hypothetical, then got a lot more real with russians war on ukraine. of course it's an exercise, but i told my guys, we handle it like emission here because it could be emission. if we think about a war and i think it's a question of mindset. and i think my soldiers getting this mindset
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from day to day more. and even those exercises show us how important i wanna drop this for major piece team that job involved, bringing in 17000 tons of rocks to build a 2 kilometer fuel pipeline to supply the airfields just for the exercise is something that could easily be needed during war time as this area is not connected to a cold war era pipeline, that supplies some basis major pieces. now they could cut the 5 month construction time in half if they had to insuring a fuel supply line to a fighter planes. and this guy was also important and a skilled, it's somewhat new to europeans, well air defenders, and above all it proving the interoperability of nato allies and the indivisibility of europe and the us. there's another aspect to nato's strength. it's important to, and that is europe's growing self sufficiency until just about 3 years ago.
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european plains could not do air air refueling without american health. this german, a 400 that we're on right now can do exactly that. so that's been a significant part of the exercises as well. german air force, colonel christian young, is already reading air defender, a big success. we had a great celebration with all our allied partners here. all the procedures that we use the work perfectly. and we are looking back almost back on a, on a perfect exercise here in the heart of your other official say not everything works perfectly. there are always glitches when 25 different countries try to integrate. the current of boudreau says the main goal here, underscoring a message to potential opponents was definitely accomplished as the german chancellor said earlier last week. you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us. so probably not a good idea to come knock and at our door a report on lessons learned from air defender 23 will be compiled in the next
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couple of weeks, but it will remain classified our brussels correspondence here. schultz file that report and she joins me now. terry, how does the exercises go? as you heard there this, they say everything went nearly perfectly. although i do have my doubts that they would say otherwise, if it didn't. but talking to people on the ground there, you definitely got the sense that they were themselves in all of the amount of air power that could be assembled by 25 countries. pretty quickly. i mean, the planning was 4 years, but the exercise was to get, get to equipment there quickly, get people there quickly and be able to send it to the far reaches of nato territory. and they managed to do that without many hitches. now, one of the things that i heard is always a problem in large exercises. there's something called link 17, and this is a data transmission system between airplanes. and sometimes it just doesn't work. so sometimes you will have a quick change in the program. something as simple as okay,
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everyone should be or less than the others don't get the message and they go right? but that's something they know is a problem, is a technical problem and they'll be working on it and certainly, and they're classified report. they'll be trying to come up with a fix for this. and has nato been able to prove it come back prepared. certainly every time they have a large exercise like this, there are things that they cannot predict will go wrong. and a lot of those aspects are with what's called military mobility. just moving things quickly. moving large equipment quickly you, you, somebody don't, don't know that you'll have a certain situation on the ground when you land, and those are all things that they learn a lot from every time they have a big exercise. and again, we should point out, this is the largest air exercise nato has ever undertaken in its history. so there are a lot of lessons to be learned from this. but i think that they were both aiming to reassure the allies as well as send a message outside the alliance. and i, i believe the baltic states in poland. those countries right there on the russian
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bell or russian ukrainian border are certainly feeling more reassured today. me sending messages towards russia. i'm going to go ahead and assume these exercises were clearly also intended to send a signal to a letter from they won't say that nicole. you know, they say this wasn't a, did anybody? but let's slip, what's the only country that regularly frightens nato allies. there is not much of a secret that it was, you know, they definitely want the kremlin to understand that this air shield is a pretty indivisible and that they shouldn't try anything. but you know, when you ask people on the ground, they say that anybody get it you have that has some idea to threaten, anita ally should understand that allies can assemble very quickly these american pilots, you know, got in their plan and came over in less than 24 hours, they were on the ground ready to fight and, and they were very happy to be able to do that to send this message and say, you know, russia, if you're thinking about trying to come over here in our air space on the ground, think again, so as you w as terry shows and brussels, thank you. always great speaking to you. germany has
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a skilled shortage doctor as teachers and tech workers are all in short supply. so the government is now looking to recruit new talent and make the country more attractive to foreigners with the needed skills. that means changing the laws around immigration to bring in more people from outside the a, c. and it's a step towards making germany a more attractive destination for emigration. members of the board to stuck on friday subs. yes. the changing the skilled workers will be able to put out. we need to be more open to bright minds in hot working hands. we need to get better at competing for global talent. and this low is making sure of that, even putting it on experts say each year, gemini needs about $400000.00 skilled workers to come to the country from abroad to fill the gaps. the hope is that this new law with that small flexible rules could
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entice more professionals. that changes mean people with the university degree and the job offer to find it easier to get the residency permit. in germany, i teach specialists in high demand and in some cases won't even need to have a degree to come work here. then you little problem is less through a policy and a so called opportunity card for those skilled workers who wants to find a job after arriving into money. there are also new rules for qualified asylum seekers walk over to hear those recruit qualifications. we will be able to access the labor market. this has to be a by making it possible for people to participate here and treating them with respect. that's the only way it can work with him. what may look good on paper. it could be very different in practice, critics one that by lowering the salary threshold, people could be paid unfairly or even exploited. and how quickly the story to be able to process based implications. remember, this is
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a country where many government agencies still use fax machines. germany was recent people did the worst place for foreign workers in the survey. looking at issues such as access to housing and digital infrastructure. there is a global competition for skilled labor and germany has some catching up to do or a smell. and some of the stories making headlines around the world today. i know full of motors in germany show support for the far right. a f d party has reached its highest upper level. 19 percent of voters would pick the f b if the elections were help this week. that would make them the 2nd strongest party in germany ahead of the social democrats of chancellor, olaf shots. cambodia has passed a new long barring non voters from running for office and future elections. pro government lawmakers unanimously approve the amendment which critics say is aimed at stifling the opposition's. chances particularly there was an exile. income in
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prime minister is running almost unopposed in next month. general election rights groups in greece are calling for an urgent investigation into the countries coast guards conduct the following, the sinking of a migraine ship last week. as many as 700 people are feared to have been on board the vessel when it went down around 100 were rescued and 80 bodies recovered relatives and loved ones. of those who perished are still looking for answers to nobody as much as the natural instruments report a kilometer in the southern phillip is now getting ready for the peak holiday season. a week ago, the town became the center of rescue efforts to one of the deadliest shipwrecks to the history of chris. today, almost everyone has left outside the port authority we meet must mood and his friend. the egyptian man came from germany, searching for his brother. my name is krista at me,
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a family member called me pulled up your brothers date. i said because it was of yes it was not shipped to and i think he's dead. i asked what happened to the bus you that he wasn't by himself. there were many people from our village with him. i stayed home for 2 days with them in germany. i did everything i code on the list and how it was broken done. i just couldn't stay. so i came here and i have another been here for the past 5 days. that phone started. his brother boarded the ship and lived together with good living of this from this village. all of them are missing . must much says that very little information is being given to family members up to 750 people, i believe, to happen on this former fishing vessel. that's a course for italy alleged people. smugglers in greece and abroad have already been arrested felony postcards rolling all of this will have to be looked at as well. there are many questions trolling around the official report of what actually
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happened that day. most serious of all or allegations. the greek or forties failed to act in time, was the ship able to maneuver in the last hours before it sank. didn't attempt to buy the coast guard to tow it result in a cap sizing. one week after these questions still remain unanswered. we reached out to the coast guard for clarification. our interview request was denied. as the greek authorities appear to try to control what is being reported. so to hear if malika camp close to athens, where the survivors happened from the time of filming, many of them had completed the registration process and were able to exit the facility. we were told by the authorities that asylum seekers we recommended not to come out and talk to press by phone. we managed to get in touch with ali survivor from combining syria. ma'am,
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we spent 5 days on the ship. on the 6th day during the night we were told by another ship and then we capsized oh, hello, pursue ground level, about 30 minutes later goals. god came direct us to get them that has been done or they've got a new number of them with little evidence available. it's difficult to establish what exactly happened. and you say they do not want to rely on the investigation by the greek authorities alone. the spitting manual makeup is doing that, but we're demanding that this time the justice system properly investigates and defines who is responsible for monitoring should be established. and that should come from a difference and independent institution that the item and most of the very spectacle will not approach the double. got you on excited? think don't let me send you more. deb hughes without transparency campaigners for your disasters. like this will only keep happening with many more dying, etc. as for watching the news coming up next in the w, a news asia,
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the box, donny tycoon, and his ill fated voyage to the titanic. well here's some reactions from pakistan. and is there any way for south asia to be the extreme and life threatening? he loves that channel. bring you these stories and much more after a short break. remember, you can get here. it is 247 on our website that it's the w dot com and our handle on social media is at the the news. i'm the completely thank you so much for your company. the
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