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in the past, they just for the people are nice to know what is happening there in our series guardians of truth watch now on youtube dw documentary, the, this is vito, the news live from for the chaos in russia after vladimir putin says, a military rebellion is under way, but the wagner mercenary chief appears to change his mind about marching on moscow . a social media message emerges, scanning, he goes in, calling his 5 years back to their bases. and bernie are televised addressed to the
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russian president said he had been stopped in the back of less than 500 kilometers sides of the capital explosions in the city of the owners. where in fact, nursing re group are reported in control of military facilities will bring you to like the unpopular felony as welcome to the program. we start with the breaking news that the head of the wagner mercenary group appears to have cooled off an armed uprising in russia. you've got any pre goshen had directed his forces along a major highway towards moscow saying he wanted to ask rushes military leadership but a post on the messaging service telegram a short while ago appears to be from pre goshen. and it says the wagner is pulling
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its troops back and returning them to field comes to avoid spilling russian blood. well, dw, russia analyst, roman, going to ranko, has been following the events of this remarkable day for us. and he has more on the surprising and to this armed news. me too. well indeed, there is a major development, some breaking news we are having and that is a, you've got any progression saying that he's pulling back his troops. he, they are no longer marching towards moscow. they are returning to the basis and there will be no bloodshed. so before that, the president of ballad russo the, the man who calls himself the president of bell roast. alexander looks jenko, which is a rush, is the closest l i a said that he was mediating all day long and the t h e, if uh, kind of a solution. we don't know the details of that solution at the moment. but he says
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that there were some guarantees for the precaution people, and there was some, some kind of proposal that they can accept. we don't know the details of the proposal, but the big question which is to unclear is what will happen to the rest in defense minister sec issue and had of the russian general stuff, leaded glass, him of and those 2, um, uh, well the main major reason for precaution to march, to was moscow. he's accusing them of betrayal. he has been using them for several months now for not supplying enough ammunition for, for bed governments of the russian military, things like that. so it is still unclear what will happen to them. and i expect that maybe the day resigned or was sacked by president boynton, but there is no official information about the faith yet. so at the moment, um, the main takeaways are, i'm the president boynton could avoid a bloodshed, the big of blood shed. and the biggest challenge to his political power since he
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became president in the 2000. and uh, we really can compare the situation to a plane, which is, which was, which was actually crushing. and then suddenly, just just over the surface, the pilot managed to pull the plane up. so there is no catastrophe the full alignment put in at the moment at least we can speak only for the moment. but there are some very, very, very dramatic consequences for president putin off to what has happened. it is not over yet. at this moment mister precaution has been, um, doing things like this. okay. not so dramatically, but he has been, for example, for i sending it to pull back from the city of baltimore and accused also the minutes defense minister. and then he was persuaded to stay. so now he did it again, but on a much larger scale. and from president border, it is extremely dangerous. what has been happening because he had an image of
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someone who isn't kind of in vince or someone who makes no mistakes, load number, and then russia, so the dresser, the president was silent for, for many, many hours. the whole country was in a state of shock from friday to, to saturday morning until his, his address to the nation. so a lot of people were expecting him to clear the situation to speak. but he was silent. and this is something that people will never forget. so soon they understand. now he's not in full control of the situation. and this in times of war and ukraine, which is intensifying with ukraine, pushing back, trying to i'm that to a post. the russian forces the occupying forces back to russia. right. it was very dangerous, but tim and we still do not know what is the price that he paid. because he looks, it looks like she gave way to gateway to precaution because pre gordon demanded that the russian defense minister should go. we will see if that demand will be fulfilled. now romana, you've been monitoring,
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obviously the situation in russia watching russian media and what's being said there, as well. at the moment everybody seems relieved. so there are some state media i'll over um, that would be escalation, these mole channels in social media as well. so pro pro, a pro camden world bloggers, the url heavy. but the situation was very much different just a few hours ago. so they will vary in a state of shock. or they didn't know what to do until opposing and gave this address. so they were still waiting, there was a possibility that maybe portion would support precaution, so that was not excluded overnight. and the end, the mood changed uh, just during the course of the day on saturday. and at the moment, uh, the rest of the state media trying to signal it is, it is okay. no, no big deal. so no civil war in russia, the situation is under control. you can return to work. and for example,
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the mayor of moscow, mr. sedan him said that will be no holiday on monday. and he said that would be one just a few hours ago. so the, the, the circumstances look very kowalcik at the moment. we were, and you touched on a before uh, with regards to vladimir putin. but how much pressure is he under now? he's under immense pressure, and my estimation is that he has shown weakness. he will try to do something to show that he's in full control again. just remember if you a week ago about a week ago, there was a, an, a coming in a comic form in st. petersburg and prestige of and for providing reporting. but he was talking about the russian economy being strong. and um that the sanctions were not to book and that view kind of the fest sometimes it was most successful and the directions were holding lines. and then a week later, later we saw him this morning given that address and very seriously weakened. so he
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was not sure how to manage the situation. he fails to manage the situation for about 24 hours. maybe more. and this is not something that can be easily overcome romana with regards to ukraine. how do you see now the situation? they're going what, what direction do you think it's gonna take as well? the ukraine as well, definitely did try to um, to use the situation. it's an absolutely unexpected window of opportunity. it might be closing. now we do not know, but anyway, the directions and the rest of the forces are confused at the moment the fighting continues. we have very boards that the ukrainians are trying to push even harder to make more land gains to retake the territory occupied by the russian forces. uh for over a year now. uh, but the fact that, um, it looks like you meant one is put in managed to avoid a big show down around moscow between his army and the wagner mercenaries that this
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will probably make the ukrainian offensive maybe, well, the jobs that the window of opportunity is based might be closing, it is very, very difficult, but anyway, the, the morale of the russian jobs has been damaged. we can be sure of that. so there are doubts. and we don't know if there is a change or the top of the russian defense ministry at the top, the top of the russian. i'm the general stuff we don't know how will come if that if the change will come, which i expect. i think it might be someone goes, would please precaution, or it will be someone and we don't know yet what will happen to progressing himself . and this is also a problem for putting because he called the gordon basically a trait to now he's making kind of a deal with him. immediate to deal fortunate. looks weak in this situation. thanks . roman they don't. yeah, they told me rush analyst from, i'm going to a rental with this latest twist comes on a day of shocking developments,
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which so russian authorities declare a counter terrorist operation in moscow in anticipation of wagner's arrival. and their wagner had marched its troops through several cities along rushes and for highway on route to the capital lead teeth, which hasn't come through spots and flying loads of foreign ash within moments, a few of the opposing flames. the blasts coming shortly after reports that bach and of fighters who were entering the city heavily on to mercenaries, had reportedly been edging closer to the russian capital around south. today, these military vehicles spotted on the highway just a few 100 kilometers south of must go all possible to meet the, according to the russian president vladimir putin. custodial royal movie. any internal turmoil is a deadly threat to our state owed to us as a nation. this is
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a blow to russia and to our people and will take a tough action to protect the fatherland from such a threat yet, did you so i think we'll do. we'll just stick to all those who deliberately embarked on the pass of betrayal prepared an abra balance and box on the path of blackmail and terrorism. methods will suffer inevitable punishment. they will answer before the law and before people, if it is enough from that of the man leading the charge, all must go dark. this style doing chief, you have any precaution, 8 accuse russian military of launching strikes on his spices in ukraine and deceiving president putin. moving his troops into the southern city of for all stuff on down with the demand. the rushes military top for us come to meet him and they still hope that they can win this for. but as long as there is no management, no military success is the leadership of the administrative defense is carefully
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deceiving. the president and the president receives those reports that do not correspond to reality in any way. there are 2 agendas, one on the ground, the other on the president's desk, and then with bach and his troops and vehicles littering the streets of real stuff, came an unexpected order from the lead to the order to stop the advance, almost go and retreat back to ukraine to avoid any russian bloodshed bringing a swift end. so when a power and rebellious this threatened to destabilize russia on the kremlin. well for further analysis were joined. nearby told me to lie sacramento, also senior lecturer in security and development at king's college london. thanks for joining us on dw, so precaution, and his wagner mercenary group are apparently turning back. what do you make of
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this latest development? oh, yes, it is quite surprising because a few hours ago, it seemed as though he had a photo frontier, a clear road towards moscow. but uh, it is possible that uh, you know, the risk of confrontation, i think bridges are entering most calling, allowing his forces to cross and to enter into law school have been blown up. so maybe they weren't logistical challenges that he would have faced. it was clear that there was going to be lot shred and probably he thought that this was maybe a more uh, sort of responsible position to take. and maybe he got some kind of guarantees that he's voice is going to be hard that wagner is not going to be destroyed. which seemed to be to be the case of 2 weeks ago when i measure of what taken to of you know, to, and to just bring as i'm not centuries of 5,
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not within the emphasis of the russian federation. so he may have gotten some guarantees. it's not clear what they are and how they're going to be enforced. so i think that is a really interesting question. at the moment it will be end of, of this crisis was reportedly mediated by the better, as indeed are alexander and efficient at pollutants request. looking at that situation, and do you think many concessions must have been made or, or how do you think this all came about? as i was being my 1st sold, you know, wanted to get everything we're doing. i mean, as a, 1st of all, probably to keep his as, you know, wagner as i'm, you know, as that as an independent structure waiting the forces. maybe also he got a assurance, a sidebar, he's, man, i'm going to be in charge of running the military operation. but i'm thinking of a person like sort of leaking for is uh,
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generally they on forces and for i've seen i someone got 5, no big goals. and i mean uh, sort of supporting and promoting. so maybe we might see somewhere like sort of leaking uh, you know, becoming as a new head of the, of the, on forces changes at the leadership whizzer. i'm at the motion of showing who was that minister of defense which hasn't been seen. apparently, i probably get asked him of has the most go at the headquarters of the armed forces, but it is not here where the whereabouts are of the meanest of defense shribel. so, you know, maybe he got some kind of d long back respect that that would be changes that there would be efforts not to expend man on equipment on doing such on russian that way. but it's very hard to see how this wouldn't be enforced. and i really find it hard to see how food in what has now been significantly weakened is going to be not enough was.
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