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in moscow, what's the best akin? and as i said, to see just one moment, one meter population each will surrender and effect. and so, and in fact, just everyone realized that the system doesn't smoke at all. okay, from a russian 5 minutes. the mikhail across, you know, thank you very much for your time. thank you. and ross as well, and ukraine rate is on despite the situation at home ukraine suppressed invalid mazda lansky says the ann verbally, on. the ross here has exposed the criminal ins weaknesses, and it splits into spotlights on fractures in the russian leadership and opinion shed by many ukrainian citizens. the fighting is fierce on the front lines near zap, reesha, and southern ukraine. one of the focal points of keeps counter offensive. while russia was confronted with armed rebellion, ukraine's forces were regaining ground. many and keep welcome the news
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of russia's domestic troubles. when you lie enjoy what is happening in russia. the conflict between precaution intrusion was coming for a long time. yeah, i don't know what may come out of it, but i wish they would shoot each other and die equal with. one person in particular was enjoying the chaos and the enemy camp. the ukranian president followed him. is a landscape showing you didn't believe the world sold. the buses of russia did not control anything. so nothing. the tool still was for the day it's complete chaos. a complete absence of any predictability or, and it's happening on russian territory. it's elena, she's keeping her way even so ukrainians know the war isn't over yet.
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the kremlin and sis moscow was still focused on the invasion for those actual military operation continues. a fight is on the front line, a showing heroism. they are very effectively repelling the counter offensive of the armed forces of ukraine. and the operation will go on outside the eastern city of don't ask the ukrainian artillery battery hammers away . they say they will keep fighting voice until they drive. the last russian soldier officer saw it. when i joined the idea of use correspondence and the economy who is now in the navy pro region hello nick, what responses have you seen it by ukrainians through yesterday's events? in russia, a certain date and the yesterday people were just stuck to that phones glued to
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that phones and kind of old shopping. not quite believing in the beginning. and then once they sold those images of shoed share for kind of professions of heavy tech rumbling down those roads to was most of the sights of russian ministry plains shut out of the ad by the wagner groups own and t at croft empty. and missile defense systems, this really seemed like this was serious, like this was a real threat to government pollutants power. and there was of c hope that now this was the kind of god given as it were a child's for ukraine's offensive to make ground. there was a real sense that this was a unique window of opportunity that russia, having central these people to the battlefield, having all the people who'd been in jail for some of the most extreme acts of violence was now basically you know, having to pay the price of that, having to see the consequences of putting these people in a position of power, giving them those weapons. and there was a lot of satisfaction and a lot of hope here. and you claim that this was the beginning of the end. it's no
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development which is rule, but of his ability to project force outside his board as me. so just to be clear, what you said is that people are expecting that the chaos in nebraska would actually decrease advantage on the battlefield. so certainly that was the hope we heard from the deputy defense minister yesterday that ukraine forces had renewed and kind of dialed up the attempts to take ground all along the front lines in the east and don't yet. and also here in the more kind of southern section, front lines, the city of is that for each uh, it was even report yesterday of an attempt to make a bridge head on the eastern bank of the pro river. opposite kind of sewing, which also held by the russians, that the area where the flooding had caused it, and so much damage of recent weeks. but when now the water is receding, and it was a real sense that this was now the attempt, the time to really attempt to make round. and to really take a bunch of this weakness. we don't have any real sense yet. how successful those attacks have been, how much progress they've made that normally takes
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a couple of days to filter through. but even given that this has now at least pause though over, for now, there is a real sense that this is a long term impact on the morales rest of the forces that even if they get back to fighting, even if this gun direct threats to evaluate persons control is now is that the chaos has been seen on the last few days. the kind of open descent between different parts of versus the least that that will undermine long term, the winning this of russian recruits, people who are being pulled up to fight to risk their lives in ukraine. and that will be 2 kinds of voltage. that's a lot of questions about the future of the wagner. i mentioned that a group, it's a group that's associated with some of the black, the bottles in ukraine. what of the value of that group mean to ukrainians? well certainly they are associated with some of the worst fighting the most intense fighting around possible. it doesn't cause to be bloody battles. the end tables have been accused of lots of ill treatment was treatment as
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a little crimes of ukrainian prisoners of wolf is little sympathy for them that i think it's really a situation where ukrainians wanted both of the rest in that area and of ugly route to lose, and the sense now that this is by no means over that had been some reports of, based on some comments by former persist general. he was suspecting that potentially, that's a withdrawal of having a group to better as could see them trying to attack cube again. from the north. so from that by the russian board, i think for now that doesn't seem particularly likely that there isn't any indication that that is any way on the cause. but certainly the, until you're getting precaution returns to those african battlefields where i had spent the previous years. i think people here in ukraine would be totally relieved that this is that the start is over. and for now, they just focusing on that take away that this conflict within rushes on forces with a single people in the original importance. we basically being quite sympathetic to pre goes in yesterday and kind of in various forms, expressed the solidarity with him that they're now going to face serious depression,
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internally from their own army leadership. so anything that kind of causes the russian forces he owned around ukraine to basically consent sales of each other. and those entail a conflict is a positive takeaway is a plus for ukraine fights and super to come up against more in the way of resistance as since the beginning of these kinds of friends and recently extended hopes. okay. and kindly and key. thank you. now let's welcome maureen on their own imagery on a list that tens college london. and then why, you know, what do yesterday's events mean for the war and ukraine to good they? well, the interesting part is one of those, sorry, the ukraine armed forces were perhaps seeing an opportunity as we were seeing cows building up inside rushes that they could benefit from that by the attacking the russian forces. however, i think that what happens essentially didn't really affect the situation in ukraine
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very much. and now that this whole drama was precaution is over. i don't think there will be any substantial changes. the question is now the, what will happen was the wagner group and whether with will be re deployed to ukraine and that will depend however, we have to understand that the wagner forces have not been in ukraine since and the left button. and so it seems that at this point, the russians are not in need of their services there. it's interesting say that, but just to be clear, is that a new chance that the wagner forces cold retentive fights and in ukraine? i think there is a possibility because a contingent of that is and rushes that has participated in march towards moscow has been offered an opportunity to sign an agreement with the ministry of defense in order to be able to operate in ukraine as. but now as part of the russian
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armed forces, so that will be centralized command in a sense and unity of effort. so there is a possibility that these people will be sweet and offer. it may be good salaries because those are good fighters and russia could certainly benefit from having them specifically because he knows the terrain. they have been in ukraine and they have been fighting together a so i think that's the russians who makes the attempt to integrate them into the are armed forces as things stand. now, what will the laws of bog enough forces mean for arrest as war and ukraine, or as it stands? for now, it is difficult to say because wagner has not been on the battlefield since they gave the control of book moved to the russian forces. so they was rude, so whatever happened after that, i didn't really require wagner's services. this group has been designed to solve specific battlefield tasks, such as we've seen in buck move,
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capturing cities right now the russians are more on the defense. so there is movement around crewmen, 9 swath of and you know, of the, of korean because those places are still being trouble pockets for you pray. the incentive for russians like however, the russians don't require that capability right now. so for now, we're all waiting to see you come by. so you premium forces while the russians are waiting for the account for offensive or for this big fight. therefore, i don't think that russia will be lacking wagner skills at this point. however, later on, and i don't know how the m o d will resolve if they might want to replace wagner with somebody like could they're of, we don't know how they will fill that capabilities gap in the long term. mm. i mean, it was a very bold move by precaution, right. in your opinion, why did he call off the rebellion as well?
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it was more c advocate. i mean, we have seen vibratory doing side of things in the past when he threatened to withdrawal from box moved on one day and the next day he reversed the course of faction and said that he would be staying. so this seemed like a gamble for wagner, and there are different versions that exist that the f as b might have swept in his family. either way, in terms of the credit was the risk calculus risk benefit calculus of author who didn't really have enough capabilities militarily, to, to present a threat to the russian government. it didn't have the necessary support within the armed forces to do so as well. and as in private military companies certainly didn't join in on on wagner. and so during this march, maybe progression also came to the realization that he cannot gardener is a support needed. and if he doesn't, then he wouldn't stand
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a chance and it will end up in a blog as costing more lives. and basically ending in nothing would have wouldn't lead to him achieving his and say, as in replacing administrative defense. okay. i mean, i'm here on military on a list like cans college london. thank you. thank you. yes or am i know the latest developments of as our, the head of the box in america and it will be of gain if it goes in this set to be moving into eggs out in galleries, provision called on face, attempted to about to a rough estimate it could be combined this up to striking a deal with the criminal background forces. they've now withdrawn from the south and 60 of rough, stubborn done where they had occupied the district and military headquarters for goshen says. wagner pulled its troops back to avoid spelling russian loud tuesday june. i'll be back on the top of the with now. well news headlines and the
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