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the fugitive right now the, the world's most dangerous. where is, is wanted stats june 29th on dw, the, this is dw, use lie from berlin. the rebellion in russia is called off. wagner, box gift any pre goshen agrees to move to batteries after quitting is uprising. the kremlin says he will not face prosecution. his forces cloud overall stuff on dawn after carry otic. 24 hours. also coming up. you praise president of
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a lot of mirrors, the landscape says the chaos and russia has exposed the cremeans full drink leadership. we go to the streets of keith to hear what residents there. think of the situation and greece, folks again for the 2nd time in 5 weeks time thing is underway. but invitations show a landslide when for the conservative of prime minister que yeah, cause it's attack is the pablo felony as welcome to the program that a ruth says president alexander lucas shanker, has held another phone call with his russian comforter part vladimir putin. a day after a short lived armed uprising ended with the head of the wagner merson regroup, ordering his troops to stand. shanker has been credited with broke ring the deal
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that a board or do you have any precautions? uprising regarding appears to have agreed to go into exile island batteries and exchange for insurrection charges against them being dropped. many questions remain precautions, current whereabouts are also known. so let's take a look at the extraordinary events in southern russia this weekend in your cellphone zone is now little sign of the city's brush with an armed russian rebellion. these tang trucks among the own even volumes is of the many. wagner fights has rolled into town until control here. so it is common to city today. no more fighters here with white vandals. yesterday. there were plenty of them here. and people in my opinion, supported them, bring them food, water, and cigarettes, or the rest of it all and it perfectly well.
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thank god, with a minimal casualties. i think good job. i believe this was the right thing to do. what prompted this man to suddenly help bob and as much the most go is to the points of much speculation. but can you put the ocean left for us still for the flurry of handshakes, and she is late south today, apparently agreeing to stand down his private telling me if miss mary's after this phone call with an old friends. the criminal in late to repeating the terms of the deal struck with the fellow russian presidents. an agreement was reached that wagner will return to the candles. no one will prosecute them, considering their merits on the front line. of always had respect for their heroic acts on the front line. and we will always maintain this bank.
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you asked me, what will happen with regards you in a criminal case against him will be closed and he will go to bell arrest. it must go many security measures put in place to count to any pocket of a soul within the capsule. remain. well thought you'd be hard pressed to know it, but behind the walls of the kremlin, it may take some time. yeah, to the president booted to the get the last few days and the biggest domestic sweat so far to his leadership since taking power. all right, well for more on this, let's speak to dw, use russia, and list konstantin aggregate, who joins us from the list, whining and capital building as constantine. great to see you again. so it's been a day after this that since this attempted, rebellion has russian president vladimir putin being weakened by all of this. great
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to see to pablo. yes he was, i think uh the so the, the, the conclusion from all of what's happened yesterday is that pollutants showing himself weak and decisive moment, but those who followed a flight rate or another flight tracking devices. so flight taking eps. uh, it was clear that 2 of the presence plane, virtually all to moscow and disappeared somewhere around the city of to dead where he has his residence. so when you meet 3 piece golf, he's a press x ray was saying that puts in is working in the kremlin, is that didn't seem really possible for those who really wanted to know what, which was so yes, after this rebellion puts in, will be seen the someone who up at 12 o'clock
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a mid day says that a rebellion is there, a rebellion in every rebels should be prosecuted. the leaders should be prosecuted and its threes interminable and 7 hours after that. he says, well, okay, i have to say that all charges are dropped. everyone is free. thank you very much. the restaurant, this goes, i mean this is not going to have probably immediate precautions, but definitely everyone both outside of the restaurant and inside russia, including put in zone rolling directly reb decides this man is weak calls on team. what do you think will be perkins next? steps i think that he will try to show some residents. so i think a search for traitors, whether real or imaginary will be very much on in moscow i there will be check who was doing watts during this fateful 24 hours. and i suppose
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that will probably see high profile the resignation is i don't know whether the, the chief general stuff and the defense minister who's resignations with the mom to buy pretty guardians where they will resign if they will be resigning that. i don't think it will happen very soon, but definitely that will be overtime. high profile. the resignation has probably been a high profile trials for, for treason. because put them have to show that he's back in control. the question is whether those new people will be more willing to prosecute the will most of your sleep mode and soliciting and whether they will be more confident. personally, i don't think so, but who knows? but definitely put him to have to show that he's in charge is definitely also mean i'm afraid, more domestic repression against those who are criticizing him. those few people who dare to and know it has and other pretexts to do it. oh,
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you're supposed to the bottom to right. so the jet was your, i think that will say more impression more uh, sort of more attempts to solidify their ruling class with here today. so what are your thoughts on this so well, 1st of all, i'm not certain that progression will be in bhillips. it's a bit like bit bear in mind the fact that it was too intense and perhaps as close to being a russian colony or at least rep from protector of the moving from uh from, from russia to bill. it was just like moving from the glove ground floor, is that gonna be in the family mentioned to the 1st floor and that's it. i mean, you can be reached there, you can be killed there. a strength will not be standing in input is way for that. so i'm not fast. i think that pretty garzon will have to find some other place of refuge whether she is going to survive. well, i mean, who knows,
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but i do think that's uh, maybe, uh, the big raymond has something to do with like a say the history or relationship between boots in empty. gosh. i don't want to engage in conspiracy theories about this game of what is called in russia, a compromise compromising materials may well be all knowing the russian elite who has walked on home and pretty bush, and may not be an exception here. but this is just a supposition, frankly, if i were precaution, i'd find myself and another another. i'm a place of refuge, a very different from billows, but we'll see whether he resurfaces or not, whether he's still useful or not. but i think, but where you're right spa and then just basically probably proves my point is that which is going to engage in massive repression. it's or at least in the search for it, for 444, and it is on the home phone. she never gives people, she never blames himself. he never commits failure. so he definitely has testified
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scape goats and, and probably high profile wants to to. but that in addition to that, comes on who controls the wagner group. now is it still precaution or is it or is there someone else there? uh, uh, well they have a mr. button that says uh, that sees uh, the images uh, co signers and stuff like this. uh, real surname. he is supposed to control group precautions must just be financially he's the ministry to mazda there. um, as far as i understand, the idea is that they will return to the base all the bases in the sole goal. then you have to can look on republics. the self proclaimed characters defect occupied by russia you create in territories. they are supposed to be that whether they will be willing to fight as fiercely as they were doing it before is another question. it's interesting that looking at the russian media, the pro grumbling telegram channels, southern exploded,
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but the reports of the bottom, the rights crossing over to the grim insides a to, to come inside and give them surrendering in drones to in droves. i'm sorry, nothing drugs. they will find drugs in grows to the local police in the start on one of the local police, which did nothing to stop them yesterday. to me, it sounds like an attempt to signal that the butler group will be either under the same control or the defense ministry of that will be no. good. thanks. konstantin, don't use russia. analysts, constantine aggregate, and the least waning and capital villainy as force break. all right, well let's get more on the implications of these developments for nato. so joining me now is dw brussels correspondence tearing schultz. terry. great to see, you know, natal members have been cautious about commenting on the events in russia. is that surprising to you? that's right. in fact,
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that there have been virtually no comments today from either nato leaders, even european union leaders or the heads of state and government along the eastern flag who spoke out very strongly yesterday immediately saying they were keeping a close eye on things. they were strengthening their border restrictions and even making sure that russians could not flee from russia into their countries. today, they've been completely silent. so i've been keeping an eye on that and i thought some of them might to might speak out a little bit more. but when you think about it, it's not so surprising when you realize that what they're worried about is their own territory. once things calmed down and it became clear, there was not a threat to nato territory to these countries along the eastern plank. any immediate threat. that is, is not so surprising that they would be keeping their analyses uh, behind closed doors. no. terry, how worried are they though, in nato, about the potential of brush it being destabilized?
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i don't think anyone in nato, uh, or in most nato allies are, are fond of vladimir putin of having to deal with him. he's proved to be the biggest challenge to security in europe. uh, since nato was, was created, but i don't think they choose if they need for goes in either as, as a negotiating partner. so certainly, i think the biggest fear would have been that perhaps nobody was in charge that, that nobody with any sense of responsibility was in charge of the nuclear capabilities, for example. and, you know, with one of the biggest militaries in the world, you, you, you'd want to know who's, who's giving commands to the russian military. if you're right next door, like some of the nato allies are. so i think that some of the worst fears now have been laid. but again, as konstantin was saying, there's going to be a lot of looking into what this means for russia. what this means for putting those plans for himself. and what that will mean about russia's behavior going forward,
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it's, it's not so reassuring that putting has been weekend. that's a may have implications for how he continues to wage war on ukraine. and that's something that concerns all nato allies. what am i nato's preparation have prepared? do you think they were for these developments that we've seen over the past couple of days to it? well, that's nato's job to be prepared for any potential attack on native territory. and it certainly didn't come anywhere close to that. so i think they would say they're completely prepared. and let's not forget, they just staged the biggest air exercise in nato history was located, run there by germany. so i think they would have felt very prepared from the air and there's one more thing tomorrow. nato secretary general. yeah. and still some bring is going to list a wayne. yeah. and so are all the ambassadors from the nato countries. so there will be holding discussions there that would be aimed at getting the bill me is summit ready next month. but certainly this will be a top a top item on their agenda as well. talking about the implications for the airlines
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going forward with russia, that whose future seems more in certain than ever. thanks, terry dw, use nato expert and brussels correspondent, terry schultz and brussels force and russians war on ukraine ranges on despite the situation at home, ukraine's president. for a lot of years, the landscape says the armed rebellion and russia has expose the cremeans weaknesses and is putting the spotlight on fractures in the russian leadership and opinion shared by many ukrainian citizens. the fighting is fierce on the front lines near zap, felicia and southern ukraine. one of the focal points of keeps counter offensive while russia was confronted with arms, rebellion.
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