ordinary ukrainian people, people yesterday and even today were glued to their phones, their tv screen seeing this unprecedented sequence of events unfolding, hoping that it might play to their advantage that specifically on the battlefield. with that being said, i mean this is also a country under almost constant showing by russia and so people are still very much distracted by but by the consequences of that the day to day life of being and awards. and whether that's search and rescue efforts or helping victims. and so you know, being watched very closely on the one hand, but on the but on the other, on a day to day basis, ukrainians have other things to worry about. quite frankly, you touched on it there a m r people in ukraine expecting that the tail stopped. we've seen and rush over the past couple days. and are they seeing that is potentially something that you crank and take advantage of? well that there's certainly the view here that what was happening yesterday

presented a sort of window of opportunity for ukrainian troops to make some advances in their counter offensive, which is currently going on, but has been going slower than i expected. we know that ukrainian troops over night last night launched an offensive around bus mote. that's the, you know, the, the town, the area that was taken over by wagner forces in may. but we've also heard ukrainian official saying that there has, there hadn't been immediate signs of russian troop withdrawal. yet my feeling is, is that we really need to give this a couple of days to really see if that window of opportunity really presented an advantage for ukrainians. because we tend to be very secretive and very guarded about that information through information, especially when it comes to advantages or lack there of on the battlefield. and you will be keeping us updated tang say the to the special correspond that abraham in key for us in germany's far right alternative for germany party has achieved

a significant election breakthrough. their candidate callback assessment one, the post the district administrator in the town of zona, back in to india, he garnered nearly 53 percent of the vote in a runoff election. parts of the party are under official surveillance by germany's domestic intelligence service for extreme is a well dw political correspondence that catherine lancaster has been following this story. forrest catherine is here in studio with me. great to see you. i think of a deal is this for at that st. kirby's political landscape. so look, sign him back is one of germany as small as governing districts. we're talking about 60000 people, 60000 photos. but it is a water sad moment for the ac. this is the 1st time they're being voted into any office in germany. this is the moment they've been waiting for since their foundation about 10 years ago. and this is the 1st time people are actually what the, the feels like for us to take them seriously as a governing party, as a party,

that people cannot just look over and glance over and not having to deal with them right now. this has changed. so it's a significant moment, we'll say i know so is it am, let's talk a little bit about this position of district administrator. how influential are they? so you have to imagine it is a very low cool position. it's like a head of a county administration and well, that's us. and that has been running on big topics and he will not be able to fulfill his promising promises, you know, just in talking about getting germany out if the euro zone protecting borders brokering piece deals with russia, all of that, he will not be able to do in his position in this local government and he said, well listen, i know that i can't do this, but people are concerned about those topics. people will not riley around the question of a local financial issue, but those so worried about the big topics. this will helped me when and it seems like it did. katherine, tell us as well because this is coming at a time for those who haven't been following during the politics very closely. where

we've seen unimportant increase in the polls as in support for the far right of the party. so tell us a little bit more about that. what's behind us? yeah, that's true. it's just recently we have seen representative polls coming out that put the if the ahead of the city of the social democratic party of all of sorts of party is this the 1st time which we're seeing this. but also this has been in as some time has been leading up to that people have supported the safety more and more, especially in the east and the range of, for example, where we now see those election results. and this is, you know, also europe wide phenomenon where we can see for right parties having some gaining some traction. and most of it is coming from fears of, you know, migration, economic fears and inflation. high cost of living. all of this, you know, the big governing parties don't seem to tackle those issues appropriately. so people are looking for populace parties and are looking for the simple and easy

answer is that those parties seem to be able to give ice. katherine dw political correspondent, catherine lancaster guatemalans are casting their votes in a hotly contested presidential election. the run of rental was dominated by concerns over corruption and the exclusion of a leading candidate. more than $9000000.00 eligible voters will also choose a new congress and hundreds of local myers. the stakes are high, even though many people are skeptical about whether they will see any real change. here impact soon. it's time to we in just 2 hours west of guatemala is capital the mood, the titans market is mixed. as the country gets rich to vote for a new president, a new mayor's. to me, that was the noise. that will be absolutely no change, but it seems things are getting worse. so all we see here in the village or on

a national level is corruption. and society is process using itself back to you to do that. i really don't care about it. why? for kids, because what is their stage theirs? and we carry on working with the same basics. if they want something else, they'll get it. but for us everything will stay the same and no one takes us into account, which is the woman. so it's time for us to choose someone to decide the destiny of our country and the municipality. so it could be positive changes for organization impacts in a load. people get to choose for more than 15 candidates for me, or that's in addition to more than 20 presidential candidates. there's such a time when trust in politics is speeding. guatemala is pleased by serious corruption, huge, and the qualities, poverty and high rates of crime. the taxi driver christian fernando threw offers

his services in the capital, is pessimistic. and the problem with politics is that it is always the same ones who participate great to a political party now is quite difficult. and we have proof of that because several candidates were excluded beforehand is ago, maybe some of them had already participated in the past, but there were 2 or 3 you hadn't with them that that will be a good chance for change. the outcome of the feeling here is that it's unlikely these elections will change the face of guatemala front runners linked to the countries elite are eager to stay in power, but many here still want to cast their votes to make use of their rights. all right, well let's go now to the capital of good amount of guatemala city, where we're joined by d. w. 's. latin america correspondent, nicole. this nicole. good to see you. tell us what's the latest you can tell us from election day a selection day as well. on the way, as you can see here,

behind me, this citizens throughout drafting the vote as a wants to make use of their rights to both. but if you look into other parts of the country, i read that in central say that elections were cancelled due to disturbances violent classes between citizens and the story that only happened yesterday evening. by the way, the electro permission that was heading to the, the office is already yesterday. every was intercepted by citizens to delete that they was the right people to go to these places. and that's where the problem started calling station students open in the morning. were talking about the town that has 8500 inhabitants. and now actually it's uh, the supreme um, electronic pool that needs some cycle to happen there. because at the moment, um boating is not underwear over half of that for the rest of the dates been quite

tranquil. the mood, however, is very interesting as well. um there was a survey this week that highlighted that 13.5 percent of the people that were asked to consider one boat. and that's obviously fits all 3 of the station here because only april when they asked the same question to the people. basically for the behalf of the pieces that was considering this also has to do with the cancellation, just kind of dental illumination. candidates that was wanting to present themselves on the presidency as we just heard. and that's reported over there. so there's a lot of mistrust here. among voters, and they don't really know if that will be solutions for the country after these elections. and after it's been decided who's going to be the president of the country? well, a corruption, poverty and violence characterize everyday life and quite them in guatemala. so what are the parties being promising and do the electorate actually believe the change kind of happen of the parties have been promised and to take care of just these issues. so that was some part you said also compared their ideas off

a president to kayla in the time or who has been presenting very thousands of people march 1st as a dental appointment. so some of the candidates also have that work for one of many people, just some of the candidates because they see them as part of the lease that are also operates in the correct way and not to take the country tags. nicole, nicole, this in guatemala city was the next generation spacesuit has been on sale to the powers air show which design for astra north on the international space station. but its maker hopes that it could one day also be used for future missions to the moon. a suit for a new age of space exploration. nasa is next generation space suits on display for the 1st time at the paris air show. it functions as an

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yes, yes. we wait and only take a leave to we. we used to be as piece where no one talks about, you know, these things, and i'm going to give you a someone writes, when we left, you will not hear anything about us. hello, and welcome back to the 77 percent sweet debates. and today we're going to be discussing the rights or lack there of the eligibility to our community here in the country, out of $64.00 countries that have outlawed homeless actuality, or simplex x in the countries. nearly half of those are rights yet in africa. kennedy is of course, one of those nations, in spite of the legal barriers, the queer community is still trying to challenge the society to create more space, more access and move disability. and our question today is, is it possible to co exist without discrimination? and i'd like to ask my 1st question to po, now they are a co founder of gulf, the gay and lesbian coordination of kind of but also

a lawyer. so i think with both of those hats you can sort of paint a picture for us of what the situation is like for the community here and can. so the lo criminalizes from sexual uh i'm very generally and then below. so criminalizes, the ways in which that act is performed amongst different community. so same sex relationships and same sex fix your us. but also events. trade couples must division oral affects. so if anything that's considered unnatural, going against the order of nature as it's written. so just to clarify, what is illegal, what is criminal, what can you go to do for what you can go to just voice for being found? having that factual act, what you can go to jail full is being perceived as having had both. so a lot of policemen will address to detain you for being perceived eligibility i o being perceived of having a very ating 6 orientation or gender identity, expressing it in no way that is notated or effectual,

but that in the lower he's not criminalize the simple fact of being korea is you're not going to go to do for that. but really, you know, we're speaking here in terms of the legal framework, all these big words, what does it actually mean to be clear in kenya? how does that life look like? first and foremost, it to me is being human. and i think the me, the most frustrating thing about the whole concept is that human beings are founded on defense as we all different. i mean, look at to you to click it to me. yeah. give me specific examples. i came over to my family in 2017. coming out to my family, i got this. oh and then i wouldn't say somebody plus they came out to my mother. my mother took me to all my siblings and then consequently, i loved them this on me, right. and it has been size the as now. i do not have a family, but also that is what's called a pulls us to a lot of issues that are human being with dealing with it. because if you allow me to do on you today, you lose diabetes and why the general public likes to look at the clear people and such as the whole existence of, of these people. these are people are going through some problems that everyone

goes through when they go through this. that comes to and says, let me hear from the people at the back. i want to introduce you for a 2nd. does anybody want to share the experience of ever being an ally? being quin uh any specifics that they've had to encounter go through your looks like you want to say something. this is i'd say one of the biggest struggles ends up being the last of social connections, right? you grew up inside of communities, plenty of communities where that's your family was that your church, whether that's your classmates or schoolmates. and at some point, as one becomes inside of their career journey, we end up losing a lot of these connections. um, but what i found an important turn in my life has been to seek and search for community and to build it. let me bring in cuz you can continue. he's a policy analyst with the leading party here in canada. and so i think you can speak on the potty position. but also the question of when the law says that you know such will accept criminalized. and yet you don't get access because of how you present which law then you're supposed to protect you against that discrimination.

the beginning of the foundation of this whole discussion according to the president, we really don't, this country is based on the african values, norms, college i said, traditions. and of course, largely because a, our community, your, our society and kenya has, you know, those a issues that they can see that as that happens. but they haven't de, the supreme court of kenya, was it they had to rectify this issue of both a and d. b. q. yeah. just for the benefit of all of us who are not canyon in 2019 the high cost of this country. rude to keep in place the law that now criminalizes homosexuality. but in february of this year, the supreme court, which is a higher court, said that it is legal to prevent these communities from creating a foundations of societies that can fight for their rights. this is what you're referring to. yes. so what our christian values and models have

a brought to before is to open up a conversation on whether the legitimate sites of every canyon or every human being to be whatever they wish to be compromises for each of these country. and that they may be sure to attend because they've introduced a charge. let me introduce a pass to james sheets from mobile, no touch. it's a very sort of, i would say liberal church here in kenya, very cheap, very young. and do you have a very interesting view point talk to me about this. so what i see in the bible is that what had design and context for sexuality. there was a little closer to my just between a mind and a woman. and it's within the confines of my age and the reasoning behind that is because these, these fruitfulness that comes with the, these, there's a way that men and women a bill differentially. and so together we become better able to save of as a society. and so i feel like their position is that this is i've seen and seen

just basically means that it's an abuse of what you are created to do. but then that doesn't give me the right to shine you. but of course not everybody in this country believes that 80 percent of the people in this country identify as christian. and most of them are very conservative. going as far as seeing the not only is this a natural, some people calling for violent acts against the queer community. what do you say to them? it's had to regulate what people think. but if you call yourself extra 10, then this time that is the bible and that bible doesn't allow me to be violent against another person. thank you. i want to hear some reactions from the box. let me hear from one your response to that. the church will coming everybody. what's your view on that? i don't think it strongly. uh because they also our children's video. so, but that's what he says. but at a property, when you have been way to come to touch it as a community co waiting place to do the touch, the customs they are, they show some of these tests be presentable. they can,

they do want to be don't come, didn't find yourself. i've of them this community also got to us. so can you give me an example of what would be an appropriate, inappropriate uh, thinking uh, come in with you uh, the colors that detach the rainbow. yes. oh no. uh no, it's like if i really want somebody to get this reaction, the pool, let me get through a reaction because uh you, you literally holding your needs and this, we need someone tell me what your thoughts are. tell me what your thoughts are. and so the so frustrating when people start prescribing what you can and cannot do, mostly because all of us get to a stage where you start to expressing yourself based on who you live based on what you like with. isn't it fair to say that if you're coming to, you know, we're speaking here about church, but it could be a mosque, it could be a temple that you just a line with those values of the church, the temple, the more so i really like to give integrity to institutions when they offer me integrity and the thing about queerness on the rainbow,

whether you're ready to not for me is a non issue, but what i'm willing to hear is what feeds you or your russian or c a or hatred for the rainbow itself. because that's just a cut, let's put together that up here. so not to read the and people have claimed it us, but so many of the collected sub claims the rainbow. yeah, let me, let me ask for a response festival. are you fearful and do you have hatred? or is it also just assumed that if you do not like these practices that you are hateful and fearful? no, i'm not hit with different. what is the emotion that you are feeling? i'm not against you. as you have said, the touch, it's about it, maybe you come with the day of the day, you know, hook you up with the, you know what, you, what see the really is that the to get it. so what do you claim they cut us and then you go that you on that or the tasha on the 1st they've been maybe you can call us back uh hi to maybe talk to you. maybe you can see what,

what are we talking about? we preach for you if anything, but talked about maybe say continuous, maybe the next slide in the next session, you're just basically what. so what are you trying to say? okay, because jim is a pastor and she understands how the structures of the church work. you know, the very valid points that are being raised because while you are welcoming the career community to the church, you also don't want to, ostracize the very conservative people. but to what point is what they're being asked. yeah, we, we disagree slightly on what you said, so it would not go to the extent of saying this is how you should dress. i don't want you to see catalogs. i don't want that, but that's only going to be meant that takes you from what you're getting to ease. it's not just about a bunch of thoughts, doors, and ones, but then i wouldn't expect that you've come one sunday, you'd use interest someone or now you're transformed, you've changed, nobody does. but what, what is transformation here is transformation to, for you to stop being gay. what, what is the outcome intended outcome? so in the past being hypocritical about this,

that is to be more about conforming. you'll behavior to what we think is acceptable . yet, the point of christianity is to transform people to be more like christ. and so that means that it's what about just more defined, you'll behavior to make me feel comfortable to make me feel better. it's about to your understanding for you are in good. and so that these folks that comes out over that. so my job is not to come into, you need to be straight to breakfast and that's not the thing for sure. and not all such as, believe this. in fact, we had invited some representatives from a more conservative church, but unfortunately they weren't able to make it today. we have a comment on that by us. hi, my name is alvina. gosh google and i'm an atheist. so personally, i believe the problem started with religion because you were talking about our traditions. what do you know about the traditions our ancestors lived in the street? all the born to, you know, one to minutes to get them is when we officers has a particular community we'd really living into get together. this is that any loving thought that is just hatred because someone believes different men just

because people are speaking more about it doesn't mean it's happening more. it was happening before. we just didn't have the platform to discuss these things as much . homosexuality has always been that you've been in the animal kingdom, people to them them. alright. same on my question to you as a says, gentleman, are you talking about this with fellow men? we know that in this country can become very vitriolic among men spaces. well, primarily, what i would say is that a friction between morales, i love it because that means this uh which uh, conversation is shifting. we of liars, he's actually changing know shift from like one state to the next in the previous leaving. i think even way back in the day with our grandparents there was this thing of like even ladies and even where trousers now, when it comes to morality in that aspect. it's interesting. you keep using the word, morality is almost sexuality a moral issue. now that's what i want to get into, who defines what's more, we didn't as a site that actually that's the thing though, because literally, even when you say now being honest, let's break it down, being honest with you and can you even when you go the majority of kenyans, they define what's moral because the

a pastor who is the most influential person and within their society, they say, oh, we look up to you. this is what we defined as more. but, and this is what i mean. do you live by these more was realistically, how many people, how many pastors actually complaints you come to church every single sunday, but do live by these principles in which that we speak of right. you're behind to pop it. settled to my dad is also a pastor. well, another thing here is by the senior being is living and even like when you actually know, hold up these moral principles so high and you start saying we are in the with, this is how you as a side you should live. and then now you start, now that what happens is that people don't live that way. guess how they feel also sites em pushed away and they see you as an enemy and has with immediately when you start seeing the past they've been, i saw some of you guys started when i brought in or is like, oh really? and then that i could see that, and i love the fact that we're having this discussion amongst us, and guess what? even a mazda, even us guys, a lot, most guys, being honest homophobia, is be

a once again into that to little bit. why do you think, 1st of all, what do you, what's the assessment? is it prevalent to not? i think it's only fair to ask for any homophobia. has always been prevalent. but do you see abuses busy in silence? and that's what clear people cry for all the time. that's now we're saying we have confidence enough to say we are here. we've been here since time immemorial. we've been bused and the charge on all systems in place. but the puppets are to move forward the phone, the power to abuse us by making us keep quiet and they'll say anything. it takes one percent to be good until all of us like you for it to become something be great, but it's up to you. ok, that's when i would be killed. so why would they be hating someone or what would they want to be leaving the system? but them tells you keep quiet when you do happen so that we can be called to a boat stuff. could you on the boat, what stuff the delay law, most of the, let me come back to when do you? because i have a question for you when adventure, nobody died additional, but was a fashion designer who also identified a square. and he was murdered in a most brutal way. and when the news came to light on to the level of homophobia,

was actually scary. is it too much to ask the government to intervene in those situations? i said yes, we know what the loss is, but surely this is also not acceptable is of course i do agree with you that to any human being created by god, true, never die. but the reason why the president would never support, you know, such a is because number one, as the president of this country, he makes this issue on behalf of everyone. everyone the majority of kenyans understand and to support the president in that position. however, the lake we see it is now dining note to be active using and so when you think about that or of a government, you know, these mid jelly, we white and politics in way and governance and policy will drive. i have know that

the, that criminalizes or supports it'd be 2 wheel drive that leave that where we used to leave those days where no one talks about, you know, these things. because the more exemplified they might to shift from may. now identifying nice people who are born that way, to work on visual of making money for them. you know, the rest and know about 10 years. okay, let's, let's give the people who visit have the child support. yeah, thank you very much for highlighting the question of dona 8, because it's important that we're clear, even the canyon government is reliant on during the 8. so every organization that exist and exist, as i mean, jewel or any institution that collaborates with other governments, you received funding. so there is no gay agenda that's funded by doing the funding . let's be clear on the 2nd thing. i think the question of homophobia is so important for us, because again, i want to use fia russian of fia and hatred. because when we say homeless will be

a, we make it seem like it's such a fluffy, it's idea. know people are afraid because we have not been educated enough for both people. i wish i had the answer to that and i hope somebody on says the nation is i'm an example it's. it's like straight up even when it comes to guys is mostly more more as, as guys usually when it comes to them before we enforcing that we like, oh, snap. you gave it so you so you do what do you do you like what happens to you is like the wrong opening that you go inside your bubble that would start to do that. that whole idea like this can actually happen. like what do you ties, electrolytes? yes. yep. and then now that's what you'd be have because even though you start thinking that what can this person do to meet because you're also a guy and now you're going to meet at the same time. that was an event, but then also in what we would come some of this when you don't understand something for your comes into play. jim also wanted to give us a clue as to what else people are fearful. i feel like we judging. we're g for the

position that to stick in yet, i guess what he's trying to, to, to speak about when to the president of the nation. you can take subject to you, would you call it a subject to position on something you present other people. and so some of the views he has and what he was talking about in terms of, of advocacy is that the majority to still have, i see, and it's very had to mix. i'm going to change what the feel about, you know, lots of things that they need. one is really fight. i don't think they would. one is responsible for this. it's just human beings in general. human beings in general are the problem that we always find a way to discriminate. again, is to chat about whether it's this and listen, whether it's homophobia, it's 6 to being with the rest of the human beings, a human. so it's very hard to legislate. my opinion on something, but when it comes when it comes to religion and this is what i'm speaking on in terms of the bible, it gives us a framework to treat people equally, whether we agree with them or not. it's kind of cool. that's on file for the. yeah,

let's yeah. here this had more i need to know to put us can, who's mortality for? because as far as i'm concerned, you're looking at a human being for example, a christian right. what is your belief? why should your belief be my point of actually you love good. why should they be having a good you might not. is you don't like days. why should i like you? what i'm liking gays? we have still been to, i'm saying this thing umbrella, concept of, you know, morality, what on the public and all that kind of stuff. where do i buy the meat of the public on how can i live? i, it's the human thing. so this is the thing that it was saying. i think it's important that we educate ourselves because i want to contest the rarely done and tied to being the better of me told anything because i totally can use the secular state. and yes, we have a lead us presidents, but can you still remains the southern and secure listed?

and all of us have the leeway to become whoever we want to become practice. we tethered really doing that. we went to brought this up to including traditional practices that said, as eligible people, nobody wants to get married. nobody has us for the same 6 months and nobody has us to be a funding such as what we're asking for is very plain. but they so much violence and the communities and that's violence must talk. so at the beginning of this debate we us a very simple question. is it possible to coexist without discrimination? now, as you all were giving eyes to jim when she walked in and maybe pulling gems, touch somebody gives you all eyes when you walk into her church. how do we create more of these spaces within our communities? let me hear from you. i think it's possible because even before the way we're saying women didn't have voting rights even like someone brought top saying active is in why are we talking all about this things yet when it comes to religion? if we can just see each other on the same level,

let me put it back to it because people have a bit of is they really disappear or 2? because when we remember that, even at some point, whites and blacks couldn't quite exist. there's an important reason for active vision because it's because of this hatred. so if we can just talk more about it and focus more on what we love about each other as a human schools at the end of the day, we are humans. and we have been doing nothing then all of a sudden, some no more summer, most of the periods web to those votes come from. okay. so is using activism and leveraging, but you might need to within the activism. so most of this is steve, how do we move forward? i think the honestly part is very important. we have people hit that because the section lies 6. hi everyone. do you know the number of strip clubs and they will be do know who goes there? have you been the same people? usually people don't have the data right now because they don't believe this, right? but it becomes a problem when clear. people are happy to be expressive about these most expressive, about 2 years, shooting photographic videos and posting will bring metals that we just coming out to say, hi, my name is mary louise b. well, i am a lesbian. i have rights. i have

a doctor who assaulted me in 2019 and i've talked about his story on social media many times as he's at the college. just a go for a pap smear. he asks me about my 6 would like because that's what you on. so when you go for anything about your sex should have any way, right. and they tell me mamma lives been on from the on. i'll just will no longer pups me. it was a muscle to me and we're having to go through that experience. the end goal is give us all what rights when we feel so if you will not hear anything about us. all right, so i live on a c. okay. we need to wrap this up, we really need to wrap this up. so i only want solutions. now please. i believe that the most important thing is that representation and positive representation is key. because right now, lots of kenyans see, gave people as people who don't exist within their society or something that do not deserve to be talked about. but this image that is sold by the media, the church, and what are the other institution exist, is an image of people in the l g, b, t,

2 plus community. that's not even real positive and on this representation. so most of the shows please for my solution is very simple. i think we all exist in a space of curiosity, rather than invest so much in having by us and judgment and expressing that. can you spend more time being curious? i want to be put to ask me questions about my life, but not in a sexualized way you know, to, to, to, to a, because i want to bring the question of into fiction. natalie to like you raise it, re as canyon so suffering from hung up from lunch, listening from for the and security sees from like political, corrupt, political lead does an all of us are impacted by that. the question of eligibility rights in this country has never been a question because based the penal code that states we're not supposed to exist freely, the supreme court has allowed us to associate so that be able to educate so that we're able to move the composition away from where we are. so i think all of us has

a space where we can existing curious. yeah, i like that. thank you. good, jerry. this is my point that nobody should they either go to chat or a, they've got the violence and all those kind of thing because of what the identify us. however, we must have so be careful as a country to protect the future generation. the people who come up to us, we need to have all springs. we need to have a donation here, opening a whole new debate. uh, i mean, i mean, it's fine, but you know what? it's okay. i appreciate that. that's your view point and it's very welcome and just to beat them, we'd like to finish with words from a pastor. yeah, um we need to open up our doors and i don't have a claim on who, who good saved and who doesn't to. all right, so it opened up more spaces for people to talk. you will stop looking at this. i've,

i to, as i live, been or to create you got laser be so much more to why she's a passport and she has them be showing. she has needs, she has all these yeah. thing i like that. so when you come to get i've been able to get a refund because at the end of it i can't, i can't force my belief. so new and i can't force you to and you can't force, you'll be loose on me, but we need to be able to quite exist all right, fast. so as we conclude, mary louise, i asked of the question, is it possible to coexist without discrimination? very quickly, yes or no after this conversation? yes, it is possible that your task though, but it is possible. i like that. i like to think all my guess you have to do because having this conversation in a ruby is not easy, especially given the political climate. and i want to thank you of you was listening to the yells and do you belong to the 77 percent to come to i just and 65

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