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to be within reason what is it really is possible to reverse the researchers and scientists all over the world are in a race against time. they are peers and arrivals with one daring goals to help smart nature. the more likes watching it on youtube dw documentary, the it was it what it may have looked like. that is what we heard today when you have guinea for goes and said that he did not intend to overthrow a russian president vladimir, put instead, he wanted to protest poor leadership of the war in ukraine, and yet, from nato to the pentagon, to the european union questions we may, how to solve this russian riddle. what is it when
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a mutiny of mercenary forces headed from all scale to carry out an armed rebellion? is it i bring golfing berlin? this is the day. the it is hard to predict exactly what to now happen in the next 2 days and weeks with these to it's we need to act together as one team and maintain the unity of all forces rallying around president, coach in the monster that routine create the binders. and munch the is, i think that's much more much of just this one. got showed a lot of things that we talked about earlier. serious security problems throughout the country. that i think we should not make the mistakes that we are done. but as the main thing there is also coming up the ever
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unpredictable russian threat to long nato's eastern flank. germany says it's sending another 4000 troops to let the wayne, as germany is ready to deploy a robust sprig, completely a brigade and refrain. yeah, on a permanent basis to our viewers watching a pdf in the united states and to all of you around the world. welcome. we begin the day after a weekend of chaos and confusion in russia that has many asking how stable is the rule of russian president vladimir putin and does it change anything about the war in ukraine. on saturday, the wagner mercenary force, which has led much of the fighting for russia in eastern new grade and its weapons, albeit briefly at russia's own military leaders. wagner's head you have given him for goes in accusing those leaders of mismanaging the war. a war that he says has been justified with loss during the span of
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a few hours. the criminal accused progression of being a traitor progression, then called off his rebellion. and then his soldiers turned around the kremlin said that they would not pursue charges against any wagner fighters or per goshen himself. but those terms are apparently changing. here is what russian president, the russian president told the country late on monday. he wasn't with us about today, you're the rebellious wagner. fighters and commanders have the opportunity to continue your service for russian by signing a contract with the russian defense ministry or other military and law enforcement structures. or to go back to your family the. those who want could leave for batteries is pulling in the video just all the other 2. i think those fighters and commanders of the russian mercenary group wagner, who made the right decision. you know, people didn't choose blood shed, but stop at the last moment to contribute. what that means for progression is,
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i know, as are his whereabouts. today progressions sit out this all the a message defending his short lived insurrection, a set of gloves that we showed a master class on what the invasion of ukraine, on the 24th of february 2022. when i should have looked like we did not have the goal of over throwing the existing regime and the legally elected government, we turned around troops in order not to shed the blood of russian soldiers rose, give solve that was there appeared to be new crags and the facade of order instability inside russia today, russia's prime minister, called for the public to remain loyal in the wake of events that he characterized as a direct challenge to president food. i see it because what russia is going through an important time in its history. because of this, the consolidation of the whole of society is especially important. we need to act
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together as one team and maintain the unity of all forces. rallying around the president's view, we need to take calculated unified decisions to effectively achieve goal set by the leader of the state of code. well, how are we to understand everything that's happened over the weekend? i'm doing tonight by robert 1st and he's a professor of international relations at the us military academy at west point. this person is going to have you with this year of the day. i want to start just with the stability of russian president putin's government and his power. what condition is it in after the events of this weekend? you know, i think we've seen this weekend that put in his power and in fact the stability of the entire system that he's been constructing over the last 2 decades is much more fragile and brittle than i think even many uh, experts 1st believed. and that's because for most of this time, his system and political stability has been premised on his ability to resolve and
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mediate internal power struggles when they arise with in his inner circle. and they do happen, but they never break out into the open in such an extraordinary way as precautions dispute with the ministry of defense in the regular armed forces has. and so that fact alone that putting was unable or unwilling to settle that dispute internally, i think, suggests that some of his tools of control are weakening. furthermore, you look at how he controls the country. it really depends on his ability to buy off and also blackmail, believe it or not, the very same it leads, but he surrounds himself with. he can threaten to revoke their power, their wealth, and their freedom for those who step out of line. so again, the fact that pre collision, backed by his private army, was in bold and to publicly challenge, not just administrative defense,
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but eventually putting himself in his decision to start the warning ukraine, i think, really suggests again that his co worse of ability is slipping and i think what's very interesting is that his initial reaction and today's announcement were very weak responses to a man who he has publicly declared as a traitor. guilty of treason, certainly not a strong response from an autocrat like booting. well, what do you make of what president putin did say tonight's he basically gave the voc, their mist mercenaries, a choice. i could either join the russian military or move to bill a roof. i'm wondering, kit kent, the russian or between it simply take in these wagner soldiers and they wagner, history as well. in fact, this was in the policy that provoked in many people's opinions. gordon's stunning gamut. uh, the order had already been issued that as of july, 1st, wagner fighters,
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wagner, units were to be brought under administrative defense contracts. essentially putting them under the command and control of the regular military and precaution, sensing that his, his utility, his power and his forces were waning. if that were to happen, perhaps, was compelled to take this extraordinary move. i'm in. so yes, those soldiers can be integrated. they'll not likely be integrated as a unified force. they won't be kept together, but rather spread out dispersed among regular russian army units, where they'll most likely be subjected to the same port of leadership, equipment, and logistics that the russian military has become known for throughout the course of this war. you as president biden today, said that he had spoken with key allies about this weekend's events in russia take
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list of what he said. we agree that great with me that we had to make sure we gave put no, excuse me, i was, i gave food, no excuse to blame this on the west of blindness on data. we made clear that we were not involved. we had nothing to do with it. this is part of a struggle with in russian system. now we've got the white house, they are making it very clear. no us involvement period. russia has to be commenting on events in real time. it seems ever since saturday. i'm wondering how worried are you about events escalating beyond russia's borders right now or so here i'll note that these are my personal view is not the official policy or possession of the united states government. but i think in fact, that if anything, the last 48 hours have reveals that the fear of escalation, that has often limited our responses to russian activities and perhaps
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limited our western support of ukraine or perhaps overblown. we see that put in when faced with a challenge or when faced with a situation as potentially threatening to the state of stability of his regime as this march on moscow was, what did he do? he backed down in the face of that office ocean and the loud precaution apparently to walk free and go into retirement into bella bruce. and so i think that does put into context perhaps some of our recurrent fears that put in well, when backed into a corner engaging some dramatic escalation, i've never believed that to be a significant risk all along. and i think this episode this weekend reinforces that . we heard from the russian foreign minister sick, a lab result today, but he plans to investigate, investigate possible for an involvement in what we saw this weekend. i mean,
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that was to be expected because it is expected doesn't make that statements even that much weaker. as you know, the russians has been claiming western involvement in nearly anything that they don't light in the world in their neighborhood and certainly at home. and this has been a long standing kremlin propaganda point, both internally and internationally. and so i think anybody with any sense who pays attention to russia immediately dismisses such such statements as utterly baseless they cry, wolf, time, and time again. but again, this has more to do with internal propaganda and messaging and trying to rally their population around this clearly failing war that putting has started a read today that the creating instead of activated 2 of the loving unit units that they have prepared for the counter offensive against russian forces,
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considering what's happened in russian now, is now the time to strike even hard i think absolutely it is. now of course, our ukrainian allies are in full command and control of their military strategy and they've made very good decisions throughout this war. and so i think we have to have some faith that they will continue to make the right decisions for they're all sensitive. but this moment when russia is command structure going all the way back to moscow is clearly in disarray. clearly has to be preoccupied. now with securing itself in the rear, i do think potentially presents some unique opportunities for ukraine to make gains that they otherwise would not have. that said, let's remember that they continue to face a difficult battlefield condition. russia has had many, many months to fortify defenses. build mine fields and other things that are making
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the training offensive, notably slow. this isn't to say that defensive is failing. it's just going slowly, which i think most experts believed would be the case. probably the person professor of international relations at west point for this person is always we appreciate your time and excellent analysis tonight. thank you. thank you. well, the wagner at revolt, but the pressure on russian defense minister said a showing do, and he is handling land link. some would argue, mishandling a, be a vision of ukraine. speculation is right that he and other military leaders may have lost pollutants confidence. today is showing you was at pains to show that he is still in charge of video broadcast on russian media. showed him flying to the war zone is a helicopter, and been meeting with officers at a military headquarters in ukraine. but here too,
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it's unclear exactly when this video was shot. so what the impact will the wagner is march on most gallery, the divisions and rush i have on the board, ukraine, and what's the takeaway for you crate and need to be as terry schultz put those questions to general then hodges, the former commander of the us army here in your i don't see anybody on the russian side being strengthened by this, all the cracks, all the problems, all the. busy lines inside the entire russian mafia, they had been exposed here over the last few days. and i think of a lot of people could be in danger of either getting purch or else they will feel emboldened to do something else if they see per goes and pays no price. of
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the other thing that we should take from this is we have to recalculate how we assess pollutants ability to do things. i mean hits, i don't think put in control too many of his officers anymore. and so when it comes to nudes or increase commitments in the war a um, i think western intelligence agencies and our civilian leadership are going to be looking through a different sort of lens now and flooding air pollution and trying to figure out who's really calling the shots there, it'll be interesting to see if showing remains the defense minister. as i'm here room is this morning that he is. then it'll prove that puts in by his loyalty more than confidence. which is a good thing for the finance we. we don't want to see rush or get a much more confident leadership into the fight. the loss of 25000 troops to the russian side is a big deal. and that's if the number of $25000.00 wagner troops is,
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is anywhere close to accurate. there they're going to be gone as a fighting force. some of them may be re introduced into the ministry of defense as individual soldiers, but none of them will be trusted. and so you're going to have some units that were experienced, and the only russian you had any sort of technical success or vol. that will be difficult to replace. what does this mean then for what ukraine should take away from this, what they should do next? and do you see then that person will use this as an exit strategy to, to re focus on, on his own problems and say that, um, if he needs to pull out of the freight. i mean, is that even a remote possibility of pictures can change the narrative whenever he wants. i mean that's, that's what the dictators do. autocrats do. oh, so he could change the narrative about the need to bring your body home. and i doubt you would see big protests in the streets. uh, there will be something with it will be unhappy, but i doubt you would say big protest. they probably would be like, okay, good,
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cuz i think most russians is dr. tim snyder says, just assume that the. busy was going to be under the control of some gangster and whoever it is, you know, so they just try to go there daily. they live. so i don't think people are, is emotionally attached to what's going on in ukraine unless they have a son or husband or a brother actually deployed there. so could you could do that. they could use this as an excuse to change his own narrative. pretty crane. i think 3 things, number one, they recognize that a lot of russian soldiers now were wondering what's going on above them and behind them, do they really want to be the last soldier killed in the war? do they really want to risk getting killed or mutilated in a conflict that looks like they may be losing? and i think just the way defense minister ration to call did over the weekend, direct appeals to soldiers using all sorts of social media, sending them text land. you don't have to die here. the enemy is,
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mikhail is not here and you cream. i think that will be compelling for quite a few. in the meanwhile, ukraine is going to continue on with their counter offensive. but they have to have already figured out that the russian side will be distracted the uncertainty and the command logistics will have been interrupted. and so i think ukraine continues, continues on against a week or a bar. as there was dw used every schultz, they are speaking with us, general bid, hodges, until events came to a screeching halt on saturday. this crisis, it involved 2 major figures per goshen, and food, and then beller roost is leader, alexander lucas. shank of entered as the unexpected mediator between moscow and um, you look a shank of reportedly had a key role in the agreement that was announced late on saturday. that agreement calling for a promotion to move to bella russo. it also exempted wagner troops from any
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criminal charge. so thanks to perchance man and bella roost, the mercenary boss who was headed for moscow now has a ticket to minutes. alright, let's go down to honda co, but she is a journalist from valerie. she's currently in warsaw. we've spoken to her numerous times and it's good to see you again. look as think of as the mediator. what does he stand to gain here? if anything, as i've seen, 1st of all, she's all was not as significant as many in the world. and i was thinking so much and being used as just to meet the man. and there were several things that can actually confirm that. first of all, it was just cost producing spokesperson, who announced that the golgi is going to need to beller was, and just an hour ago. and just few moments ago push inside because they said the offerings to was going to be that tends to um, that to,
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to go to those as well as the options. no question got has not spoken about this. yes. what is he reading here? first of all, the, i guess reputation in the short run inside the country, mostly that he's able to negotiate. he's able to deal with this situation. he's the most homes with russia. i think you might read some of which is potential benefits for roger's you in the future for the service the permission to provide just and perhaps he's also counting on by the speech based and and protecting him if something happens. yeah, that's what i'm going to ask you tonight of putting it said that book the bag. there were some theories now have a choice. they can either join the russian army or they can move to bella roofs. why move to the bella roofs? the we know i've seen it just because those in the eyes of fortune is being seen or used as
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a subordinate 73. where else they have many options. i don't think so. so i, i think that was you. i had a hard time coming up with a solution and all of a sudden the cushion cause a very stable continued lawyer ali appeared info or was this a country where i'm going to be that those will not face any problems. so i think this is why, but full feller was here, there are, there will be many consequences because 1st of all, it was feller was in danger. is it target for a potential retaliation from the opinion side? it also definitely puts a risk to belittle his neighbors. from the west and already several countries have agreed on because he mentioned the strategy. so basically the negative consequences for the most here you have gaining goshen in this agreement it, it said that he had agreed to move to developers. so what does that mean for him?
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i mean, we have to also say that his whereabouts to night still remain unknown. but let's assume he's going to be able to reach or he is and deliveries. what does that mean for as the disappears and we don't really know where he is, but he actually published a voice message earlier today in which she had sent lucas shameka for offering this supporting hand as he said. and also she said, he said a very interesting phrase, but those will become illegal base as of the legal jurisdiction for the buckner between the they might be the and having a kind of legal base that whatever, please feel free lunch. and so again, it's not really clear, she doesn't have many options either in his message, she basically humiliated i've seen the crime scene again saying that there are many security breaches many suppose she calls in the whole russia. so it doesn't seem like he is willing to retire,
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i think because he still has some visions and then we'll see what will happen next . yeah, we're have to wait and see, as you say, television journalist, honda civic hope is always and we appreciate your reporting. thank you. thank you. and you can follow up to the minute updates on the were in due credit, and you can also get in depth articles on promotion. and the wagner mercenary group, all you have to do is go to dw dot com with germany says it's ready. just ation several 1000 additional troops in lithuania, on a permanent basis to strengthen those eastern border. germany already has about $1000.00 troops on the ground. they are the 20, as a president, has been calling for a stronger native presence in his country which borders bella roost and the russian enclave of collision in gras. a show of unity and
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strength, german and lisa and soldiers conducting a joint exercise on the broader training ground. in the future, they will work even more closely together, up to some, back and forth. berlin is now ready to permanently deploy $4000.00 soldiers to lease a new germany used to be the eastern flank of nato territory until the end of last year, all apart. and germany as the biggest uh, economy in europe and a part member of nato of cause is willing and will be able to take responsibility now for the new eastern flag. the deployment is based on the precondition that lease we and you know, provide the infrastructure needs to host additional troops, which will probably take until 2026 still between you and president knows data seems satisfied with the announcement, but he's asking for more support from allies i've got to that to be off over the able to reach an agreement on need those sort of facial or the funds modal in the
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both the countries. so it's a significant miles storm in strengthening dollar security. we should continue moving in this direction into unity, and this results need to is working on new defense plans to boost its presence an air defense in the region. but the big question here and pub ryder is whether that will be enough and what consequences the attempted wagner result could have. the events we saw unfolding in russia over the weekend demonstrates the weakness of the fragility of the russian regime. it also demonstrates the danger of being dependent on mercenaries. at the same time. we need to remember these are internal russian. there's, it's not fun. a thought in 2 weeks time, all eyes will be on the sweeney again, when nato leaders meet here for their summits is dw
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