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i have paid almost every price will be mutual in the country like turkey taking all the powers that be the risk. everything john do dar activists, journalists and politicians living in exile the way to which they move for their mission, what drives them. people need to know what is happening that our series guardians of truth watch now on youtube dw documentary the as what's your president built in today saying to the security forces for preventing a civil war for standing in the way of mercenaries and tried to march on most scale . now that is the criminal narrative. now it's very different, of course, from what the world witnessed on saturday on their way to law scale. those wagner mercenaries encountered chairs, not jeers. and for
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a few hours it seemed approaching had lost control of the narrative. if not more, can he make sure that it never happens again? i break off in berlin. this is the day the which we chose. there's a lot of talk at the moment. wagner, fog know, wagner. so get a gen, you see the state provided all the funds for the entire wagner group that we can defense and rush, i have confirmed the rush, it was is and will remain unpredictable. yep. i suggested to put in not to hurry. i said, let's talk to precaution what we do not know, false things are going to the role of pain coming days and weeks. in fact, you stopped a civil war also coming up,
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europe's biggest nuclear power plant is in ukraine and also in the middle of a war zone. ukrainian sphere that russia could use it as a weapon. everyone's talking about the nuclear plants, wherever you go. when you go to get water or go to the shops, everyone's talking about research. it's really scary. which of our viewers watching on p b as in the united states into all of you around the world? welcome. we begin today with a lesson in what to remember. today, russian president vladimir approach and appeared in public for the 1st time since those dramatic events of last week dense. and he described those events as a close call with civil war boots and things in security forces for standing by the country and its constitution. but who or what they were standing up against, who didn't really say exactly. in fact, he didn't mention the wagner mercenaries who almost made it to moscow,
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and he didn't mentioned their leader. you have guinea precaution take unless the soldiers and officers are the true defenders of the motherland, who in a difficult time for the country together with their comrades in arms, stood in the way of the unrest. which would have inevitably resulted in chaos. you protected the constitution, whether she lives, the safety and the freedom of our people. you saved our motherland from turmoil. in fact, you stopped a civil war. us or the wagner boss. he may have moved, but he hasn't gone away today for goes and arrived in bella. rue switch was part of the deal that ended the brief result that he led last weekend. russian authorities will also pursue no criminal charges against pre goshen and his wagner mercenaries
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. now that fulfills yet another condition of the deal which bill of lucy and president, alexander lucas jenko claims he broke. or today he rebuilt the details of how he claims to have talked for goshen. down from marching on, laska noticed that you know, put your name. i asked him, what does he want to do is go to prove that naturally told him these requirements. you, i'm not asking for anything, but let them give me sure. go and dress them off. give me another and i need to meet with peyton. i told him no, and will give you why the showing google glass them off me covered. and especially in this situation with united preaching, as well as i do to the new missions. secondly, he will not talk to you not only to meet but will not told you on the phone due to the situation of some silence. but we want justice, they want to strangle us. we will go to moscow. i tell him that half way up you will be crushed like a bug club of the luxury. go also claims that he urged while it may approach and
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not to have for goes in killed instead. the wagner boss is now bellow bruce's most prominent new resident and everyone, once or everyone, there is not necessarily happy that he is there. here's opposition, politician. front of the court. regardless, i traveled to brothers has very dangerous for abilities. some society for better sense. so got any tend for abilities and independence more over and it will create france to pull up between yeah. and lots. yeah. it's very likely to progress and it will not the right for loan by people to bring his mercenaries, thousands of people. we're participating in torture in killing so if you premiums and right now together with lucas and they can create the nuclear threats to our neighbors and 3 entire continents. so it's like the allow the huge gang cove criminals to do what they want without any punishment was for like 3 or 4 get their wagner is
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a short lived clash with rushes. military comes as ukraine tries to gain ground in a critical counter offensive credits president of holding. his zalinski says that his forces are advancing in all directions, but it's still unclear if keith can capitalize on. the turmoil in the russian ranks . ukrainian president was visiting troops on the front line near the eastern city of bock boot and these ever reached the region to the south. he headed out wards decorations and was briefed about the situation of the battlefield. while ukraine has reported some success as it is meeting fierce resistance from russian forces as well. i'm joined now by katya as sole doc, editorial director of international additions at forbes. she has been chronically brushes more on ukraine, and she joins me tonight from new york. how do you, it's good to have you with this. what am i putting today said that the country came close to civil, more civil war. that is not the language of a confident,
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strong man leader. is it all the in front of our eyes? we always have to understand that we don't know all the truth, russian government and everything that happens there is absolutely not transparent and wild for the past 1615 months. and a lot of people in the world are watching russia and waiting for russia to collapse . it's not really happening and all the messages that fortune is sending through his speeches. they're directive to multiple different audiences. but most important audience is for dance and rush. and when he use a strong language like civil war and that she was able to get the situation under control, my understanding is that it's directed to russian audience because he needs to show
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that she still has control and went for a moment. maybe there was some weakness, but he managed and everything is fine. yeah, it is important is you say for put into look a presidential to the public as well as to the military. i'm wondering, are we entering the territory where it becomes almost an existing show for him to look that way of? absolutely, i think all the actions of for james and his government are directed at surviving and trying to create a stronger and stronger propagandist narrative. so the russian public keeps supporting them despite all the realities, because russia is affected by the sanctions. there are losses from there. a lot of young people for dying in the front lines and 3 dislikes canon me and the public still needs to, to believe that the russian government is strong and has control so absolutely, it's essential for them. what do you make of this deal with the wagner boss
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of production? today? he arrives in bella, router's his soldiers for hire his mercenaries. they've also been given the choice of following him there. how do you read their as well? i believe that in this, as by doing this put you in terms of government, they manage the situation by essentially to dissolving the unit and that's what present venture to them without. um we don't really know what happens, right. so we only know what the here was, the question to says, we don't even know if precautions indeed made it's to means we just watched it sunday life tracker. but if we buy this narrative, then in this case, a lot of people from the wagner unit, who, by the way, ex convicts, very dangerous people know diverse people that come by the experience they can join the russian army. so it's a win for the russian,
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russian forces. and in the same time, it's no longer danger for their shame. and we don't know what kind of deals were made without us knowing what actually happened. i'm wondering how worried it should bother me approaching be about any possible popularity that for goshen enjoy. improved. who likes to be seen as a man of the people, but he's really not for goes and all the other hand it comes from a small village. it's very humble beginnings. he was a hot dog salesman who worked his way up to become the chef to the russian president. yep. at this point, it's very hard to imagine how the russian publics receives anything, because they've been brain wars by russian propaganda for decades. now, so old and e, and just another leader just to not as are so who knows. but i still understand that russia put you in is in control of all the media and for pre goes into the con, popular as you need to have a very strong powerful channels to get this popularity. and while she was greeted
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very friendly in the areas where he answered, that's not enough. is cutting, you know, why the way of foods in the heating neutralizes his opponents? he's done it in the past. we see that, you know, you go with an airplane, you get poisons, you can go to another country. you have contact with some type of element that can kill you immediately. so why is he being so soft on this new knee and especially on for goes well, 1st of all, we don't know what will happen tomorrow. the windows archive are still, you know, open, so people to fall out, not a choke are still around. we don't know, we can just watch what happens, but it's possible that there are conversations that are happening behind the scenes that we are not aware of. and there are deals and 3 adults and stuff that's happening that we don't know. but we just watch the presentation and we can learn
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on it what's possible for us to see. so let's just see what happens. and before we let you go, and you know, we don't want to give the impression that for the international community promotion would be preferable over food to the bc is considered a war criminal. what kind of a future does precaution realistically have in vladimir pollutants world? is. is there any realistic future for this me? well i of course wouldn't know because it's impossible to predict, especially when we're talking about players like this. but i would imagine that putting doesn't need him and he will be out of the picture some point to just look at all. okay, well, we will definitely be watching and listening to you like we appreciate your insights tonight. thank you. to continue to monitor it closely. um i think we should all be able to agree that
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a nuclear power plant is not a great site for military operations. one way or the other. that was us national security spokesman john kirby responding to growing concerns over the safety of europe's biggest nuclear power plant, which happens to be inside ukraine. russian soldiers are in control of these. after we'd see a nuclear power plant versus intentions, there remain a worrisome unknown. the reset destruction of the nearby cosca them has only added the fear of an impending catastrophe before rushes invasion of ukraine. the soviet builds up for reach a nuclear power plant, produced a 5th of ukraine's electricity. but now 5 of its nuclear reactors are in code shot down because of continued shelling of the pond. the 6 is set to be in halt, shut down. meaning the power unit is heated to a 2nd level,
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but it any generates thermo power o 6 react to those still need more to pumped through them to cool the nucleus. a few. without that, there's a big risk that the fuel will overheat, causing a meltdown that could lead to nuclear disaster. that will, to comes from a cooling pond that spread by a huge reservoir. but that reservoir is drying up. off to the nearby kirchhoff cut down was blown up at the beginning of june. there are also claims by ukraine that the dam that protects the plants cooling pool has been mind if damaged, even more water would be lost. and that will to is also needed to keep the use to nuclear. a few this been through the react is cool. also key to protecting the
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plant is a continuous source of power. electricity is needed to ensure the cooling pumps used to pump water around the reactive can operate with the plans as low as powers several times due to fighting in the region. that's meant it's been forced to rely on diesel generators, which only have enough fuel for around 10 days. that pro reached yeah. is a ticking time bomb for more of this, i'm joined now by ellen us because of the executive director at the center for disarmament. and non proliferation in vienna, when it's good to have you with this, i want to just ask you have the events of the past few days in russia surrounding the wagner mercenary group? elizabeth, have they changed the level of threat? you see to this power play?
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i don't think that anything related to the part of our group. so as to you with the separation nuclear power plant. first of all they were moving in an opposite direction to start with the way from from the premium or is they weren't impressed . so um and assuming that they are moving somewhere to that was that even less of the concern, but we don't know where exactly they're moving. yeah. but all the issues are much more important and some of them were highlighted by the previous speaker. yeah, i wanted to ask you how acute is of the nuclear threat at zapper read. so you're right now as there are several dimensions to each one is uh, is the continuing water supply. and it was randomly set that because up they
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call them uh, damage and draining off the main um, whatever was there, were these continuing supplied to what i is now in a big question. there are however, other supplies that were available and they have been preparing for such scenario. so its not in the media center, but it's something that needs to be addressed relatively soon. because we cannot rely on blogs and months of the power plan on the relying on some of the reserves it's, it has a already on the site. the 2nd part is the electricity supply. mm hm. and the importance of it is you kind of have a lot of being constantly pumped and cooling the fuel and the reactors, if you don't have her with theresa. gee,
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this off generators as was set on the available to work for like a number of days, an hours. and you need to down to have a reliable supply continually continuously. they, all that concern is a potential of a mind placed at the facility itself. here, there is the relatively good news with that. we saw airports a few days ago from the international atomic energy agency mission to the new pop plan. when they were able to observe the cooling phones, they were not able to identify lines fair down war, however, lines and the site a batch, the one on place of the reactors of the cooling point. but it is a concern that they're all minds and motor equipment that is at the site. and the
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more uh, you crane in troops start to advance next to the city a. we don't know what is going to happen. what else going to be placed over designated and moved to other places the new or are continue dentist? it is a precedent as institution, the parents or the russians from the next acknowledge reactions. there it is in the middle of words on it. i'm wondering if russian troops were told to purposely do things inside the plant that would bring the nuclear power plant immediately into some state of disrepair. we're not talking about and releasing radiation, but let's just say in some state of disrepair, how confident are you that the workers there would be able to, you know, repair it that they would be able to get people there with a know how to repair it. that they would be able to get to the materials that are
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needed to carry out those repairs. is that a scenario that's been solved through as i don't think this is the biggest concern at the moment in terms of repairing and bringing the nuclear power plant back online, assuming that the territories liberated. i think the biggest concern nowadays to would a, an x that edu and radiation release some accident and the incident that could bring the release of the brandy. so that's the biggest word. and 255 out of 6 of the actors and cold shut down, which probably means that there is a less of a concern about the states at the moment, but ah, the 6 factor is still in a so called hawk sub down. so there is more concerns about that one. if there is a pressure, if there is in some, uh,
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getting service exciting. the stop working there is an extreme blood pressure and mistakes put they made. the lead to a building is elena is a cover. we appreciate your time and your valuable insights, so like we certainly will be following developments. thank you. you're most welcome . so what does all of this mean for ukrainians on the ground, dw, make quarterly visited the nearby you crate in controlled city of nickel across the river from the power plant. now there people not only faced the threat of russian showing, but now the risk of nuclear catastrophe, a vineyard and the dumping was lying in bed when a shell hit snap by bloss, when trying everywhere i was covered. it all just happened so fast. i didn't even realize the sirens go off every night and they all play already comes next morning . i can't remember night without the simon's easy. i worked for
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a local church before the war. they helped people with the drug and alcohol addictions. now he's helping the 40000 people still left. survive that help in the move, you might think this is a town that caught fight back on the russians shoot just as every night and that can just get away with it. they don't even bother to move the guns, they just lead them standing where they were and they come back when they want to carry on. and this is why does a breezy nuclear power plant just a few kilometers away? it's occupied the rest of the soldiers and their weapons, the soul just to make life and make a pull, a nightmare safe and the knowledge the ukrainians were 15, the time functions, but only just need with help. since the kafka dime was destroyed, most levels here have dropped dramatically, leaving wells dry watering food delivery times. i kept secret till the very last
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minute for fear that the russians ta get the crowd to the 3rd and 4th floor is if my building were destroyed by shelling. they were just going and showing the young man who lives on the 4th floor ended up in my flat on the 1st floor. this last to doesn't this, the well known. we had to help him get the shards of glass. i took his legs when you board sticks. i remember the bombings in world war 2, just as i was just a child. yes. that's how i remember ever saying this is it's all happening again. there's a summary of what some people hear fee of it's showing might not be the piece of history repeated. and this will create new leaders, say russia has mind a nuclear power station and would designate to be forced out by the counter offensive instead of so hold on awesome care button. everyone's talking about the
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nuclear plants, wherever you go. when you go to get water or go to the shops, everyone's talking about research. it's really scary. i was pregnant winter noval happened and my son was born disabled because of it is the to the number. we go to lots of radiation here in nicole back then you're here. and yet for now, at least it seems that those have held out through 16 months of daily selling, outgoing. anyway, we have are young volunteers of 20 or 22 years olds coming to help us some of the us that looks good. then it's good. how can we even think about leaving the company's foreign minister on the bare bulk is in south africa for talks, including talks on rushes war and you crate or box said that the wagner march on moscow last weekend and showed just town president fujen is destroying his own
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country, germany is pressing south africa to end it's neutral stance for the. this is nina hodges, she's travelling with the german foreign minister, germany and south africa. see each other as very important partners when it comes to tackling global issues, such as the fight against the climate crisis, such as the attempt to gets to wants and more green economy adjusted economy. more equality also for women. but a lot of trusts was damaged. last year, when south africa refused to join west and supporters of ukraine and did not condemn russia's actions in ukraine, quite as openly as the west would have hoped. so this is a message coming out of the bab sneezing with a south african count of pa to you today at least talks of being resumed. again, at least one side is willing to listen to the other. the positions might differ, but there is
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a joint willingness to bridge those differences. gemini says it's support, south africa's attempts of helping to bring about peace. now working on these documents on these concrete piece plans is already something that's gemini, says it is looking forward to doing together with south africa. maybe that will help overcome some of the differences that last year. so between those 2 countries, this was the, the house reporting there you're watching the day, we'll see you tomorrow, the
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and strongly always services be our guest at frankfurt and bought cd, managed by front, bought the the the petition, dw, news live in from berlin. tonight. rochelle launch is missile strikes on the eastern ukrainian city of promo tours green authorities. a several people died. many more were injured when rockets hit a crowded shopping district. also coming up the wagner mercenary balls. if getting
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