the, the pressure president georgian today, thing too, is a security forces for preventing of civil war for standing in the way of mercenaries who tried to march on most scale. now that is the criminal narrative. now, it's very different, of course, from what the world witnessed on saturday on their way to law scale, those wagner mercenaries encountered chairs, not chairs, and for a few hours, it seemed approaching, had lost control of the narrative. if not more, can he make sure that it never happens again? i've read golf in berlin. this is the day the which we chose. there's a lot of talk at the moment, bob know, fog know, wagner. to get a gen, you see the state provided all the funds for the entire wagner group that we can

defense in rush. i have confirmed the rush. it was is and will remain unpredictable . yep. i suggested to put in not to hurry. i said, let's talk to precaution what we do not know, false things are going to the role of pain coming in today's enriques. but in fact, you stopped a civil war also coming up the europe spigots nuclear power plant is in ukraine and also in the middle of a war zone. ukrainians fear that russia could use it as a weapon. everyone's talking about the nuclear plants, wherever you go. when you go to get water or go to the shops, everyone's talking about research. it's really scary. which of our viewers watching or p b as in the united states into all of you around the world?

the welcome. we begin the day with a lesson in what to remember. today, russian president vladimir approach and appeared in public for the 1st time since those dramatic events of last weekend. and he described those events as a close call with civil war boots and things in security forces for standing by the country and its constitution. but who or what they were standing up against, who didn't really say exactly. in fact, he didn't mention the wagner mercenaries who almost made it to moscow, and he didn't mentioned their leader. you have guinea for goes, you take a list. the soldiers and officers are the true defenders of the motherland. who in a difficult time for the country together with their comrades in arms, stood in the way of the unrest which would have inevitably resulted in chaos. you protected the constitution, whether she lives, the safety,

and the freedom of our people. you saved our motherland from turmoil. in fact, you stopped a civil war as well. the wagner boss, he may have moved, but he hasn't gone away today for goes and arrived in bella, ruth's which was part of the deal that ended the brief result that he led last weekend. russian authorities will also pursue no criminal charges against pre goshen. and his wagner mercenaries, now that fulfills yet another condition of the deal, which bill of lucy and president, alexander lucas jenko claims he broke. or today he revealed the details of how he claims to have talked progression down for marching on laska. you know, did you know, put your name? i asked him, what does he want to do is go to put in and actually told him his requirements. if you i'm not asking for anything that them give me sure to go and dress them off. give me another and i need to meet with bruton. as i told him, please,

no one will give you why the showing google glass them off me covered. and especially in this situation with united preaching as well as i do. secondly, he will not talk to you not only to meet, but when i told you on the phone due to the situation from silence, we want justice, they want to strangle us. we'll go to moscow. i tell him that half way up you will be crushed like a bug, kill up on as long as you go. also claims that he urged while it may approach and not to have for goes in killed instead. the wagner boss is now biller bruce's most prominent new resident and everyone, once or everyone, there is not necessarily happy that he is there. here's opposition. politician. front of the court regarding travel developer says very dangerous for abilities, sam, society for a better sense, so that any 10 for abilities and independence more over it will create france to pull up between you and loves. yeah, it's very likely the progression of

a lot. the right for loan left, you will bring his mercenaries, thousands of people with participation in torture, in killing. so if you premiums and right now together with glucose and they can create the nuclear threats to our neighbors and 3 entire continents. so it's like the allow the few gen cove criminals to do what they want without any punishment. it was for like 2 years. work is they have, wagner is a short lived clash with rushes. military, it comes as ukraine tries to gain ground in a critical counter offensive. you create as president building is zalinski says that his forces are advancing in all directions, but it's still unclear if keith can capital lives on the turmoil in the russian rakes. the ukranian president was visiting troops on the front line near the eastern city of bock boot. and these effort reached the region to the south. he headed out wards decorations and was briefed about the situation of the battlefield . while ukraine has reported some success is it is meeting fierce resistance from

russian forces. well, i'm joined now by katia sol, doc editorial director of international additions at forbes. she has been chronically brushes more on ukrainian. she joins me tonight from new york. how do you? it's good to have you with us. what am i putting today said that the country came close to civil, more civil war. that is not the language of a confident, strong man lead, or is it a folder in front of our i as we always have to understand that we don't know all the truth, russian government and everything that happens there is absolutely not transparent . and while for the past 1615 months, and a lot of people in the world are watching russia and waiting for russia to collapse . it's not really happening in all the messages that fortune is sending through his

speeches. they're directive to multiple different audiences spot and most important audience is for dance and rush. and when he use a strong language like civil war and that she was able to get the situation under control, my understanding is that it's directed to russian audience because he needs to show that she still has control and went for a moment. maybe there was some weakness, but he managed and everything is fine. yeah, it is important is you say for put into look a presidential to the public as well as to the military. i'm wondering, are we entering the territory where it becomes almost existing? she'll for him to look that way. so absolutely, i think all the actions of for james and his government are directed at surviving and trying to create a stronger and stronger propagandist narrative,

so the russian public keeps supporting them despite all the realities. because russia is affected by the sanctions, there are losses from there. a lot of young people for dying in the front lines and 3 dislikes canon me and the public still needs to, to believe that the russian government is strong and has control so. absolutely, it's essential for them. what do you make of this deal with the wagner boss of production? today? he arrives and bill a roof. his soldiers for hire has mercenaries. they've also been given the choice of following him there. how do you read there? well i believe that in this, as by doing this put you in terms of government, they manage the situation by essentially the dissolving the unit that was present venture to them without. um we don't really know what happens, right. so we only know what the here was, the question to says,

we don't even know if the boys and indeed made it's to means we just watched it sunday life tracker. but if we buy this narrative, then in this case, a lot of people from the wagner units for their shame, and we don't know what kind of deals were made without us knowing what actually happened. i'm wondering how worried it should bother me approaching be about any possible popularity that pre goshen enjoy. improved in likes to be seen as a man of the people, but he's really not for goes and all the other hand it comes from a small village. it's very humble beginnings. he was a hot dog salesman who worked his way up to become the chef to the russian president. yep. at this point it's very hard to imagine how rushing publix receives anything because they've been brain wars by russian propaganda for decades now. so old n e and just another leader just and not as are. so who knows?

but i still understand that russia lieutenant is in control of all the media. and so pretty goes into the con, popular as you need to have a very strong powerful channels just to get this popularity. and while she was greeted very friendly in the areas where he answered, that's not enough cutting. you know what, i mean foods and he neutralizes his opponents. he's done it in the past. we see that you know, you go with an airplane, you get poisons, you can go to another country. you have contacted with some type of element that can kill you immediately. so why is he being so soft on this mutiny and especially on for goes well, 1st of all, we don't know what will happen tomorrow. the windows archive are still, you know, open for people to fall out. not a choke are still around. we don't know. we can just watch what happens, but it's possible that there are conversations that are happening behind the scenes

that we are not aware of. and there are deals and 3 adults and stuff that's happening that's we don't know, but we just watch the presentation and we can learn only what's possible for us to see. so let's just see what happens. and before we let you go, so you know, we don't want to give the impression that for the international community progression would be preferable over future. let me see is considered a war criminal. what kind of a future does precaution realistically have in vladimir, perchance world is, is there any realistic future for this me as well? i of course wouldn't know because it's impossible to predict, especially when we're talking about players like this. but i would imagine that switching doesn't need him and he will be out of the picture. some point. try just look at all. okay, well, we will definitely be watching and listening to you. so like we appreciate your

insights tonight. thank you. continue to monitor it closely. um i think we should all be able to agree that a nuclear power plant is not a great site for military operations. one way or the other. that was us national security spokesman, john kirby responded to growing concerns over the safety of europe's biggest nuclear power plant, which happens to be inside ukraine. russian soldiers are in control of these. after we'd see a nuclear power plant versus intentions, there remain a worrisome i know the reset destruction of the nearby cosca them has only added the fear of an impending catastrophe. before russia's invasion, a few crane the soviet failed. zap or reach a nuclear power plant, produced a 5th of ukraine's electricity. but now 5 of its nuclear reactors are in code shot down because it continued shelling of the pond. the 6 is set to be in

halt, shut down, meaning the power unit is heated to a 2nd level, but it any generates thermo power o 6 react to those still need war to pump through them to code the nucleus a few. without that, there's a big risk that the fuel will overheat, causing a melts down. the could lead to nuclear disaster. that will, to comes from a cooling pond that spread by a huge reservoir. but that reservoir is drawing up off to the nearby cost, cut them was blown up at the beginning of june. they were also claims by ukraine, that the dom that protects the plants cooling pool, has been mind if damaged, even more water would be lost. and that will to is also needed to keep the use to

nuclear fuel. this being through the react is cool. also key to protecting the plant is a continuous source of power. electricity is needed to ensure the cooling pumps used to pump water around the reactive can operate the plans as low as powers several times due to fighting in the region. that's meant it's been forced to rely on diesel generators, which only have enough fuel for around 10 days. zappa reach you is a ticking time bomb. but from all of this, i'm joined now by ellen us because the, the executive director at the center for disarmament. and non proliferation in vienna, when it's good to have you with this, i want to just ask you have the events of the past few days in russia surrounding the wagner mercenary group,

elizabeth had they changed the level of threat you see to this power plant, or i don't think that's anything related to the part of our group i as to you with the separation nuclear power plant. first of all they were moving in an opposite direction to start with the way from from the premium or is they what impression? so um and assuming that they are moving somewhere to that, why was that even less of the concern? but we don't know where exactly then. yeah. but all the issues are much more important and some of them were highlighted by in the previous paper. yeah, i wanted to ask you how acute is of the nuclear threat at zapper read to you right now? are there several dimensions? do you want to use the uh is the continuing water supply?

and it was raining, was set that because up they cut off cuz of them uh, damage and draining off the main. um, whatever was there were these continuing supplied to water is now in the big question right there. off. however, other supplies that were available and they have been preparing for such scenario. so it's not in the media center, but it's something that needs to be addressed relatively soon. because we cannot rely on blogs and months of the power plan on the relying on some of the reserves it's, it has a already on the site. the 2nd part is they look 3 cities supplying. mm hm. and the importance of it is you kind of have a lot of being constantly pumped and cooling the fuel. and the reactors,

if you don't have electricity they, there's of generators as was set on the available to work for a number of days and hours. and you need to down to have a reliable supply continually continuously. they are a concern is a potential of the mind placed at the facility. and so there is a relatively good news with that. we saw airports a few days ago from the international atomic energy agency emission to the new club pop plan, where they were able to observe the cooling pounds. they were not able to identify lines fair down war, however, lines the site. but the one on place of the reactors of the cooling point

is that concerns that are all minds and motor equipment that is at the site. and more uh to a new crane interim start to advance on next to that. so lady a, we don't know what is going to happen, what else going to be placed over designated and moved to other places. so there are continuing dentures. it is a precedent as institution, the parents or the russians from the next acknowledge reactions. there it is, in the middle of words on it. i'm wondering if the russian troops were told to purposely do things inside the plant that would bring the nuclear power plant immediately into some state of disrepair. we're not talking about in the releasing radiation, but let's just say in some state of disrepair, how confident are you that the workers there would be able to, you know,

repair it that they would be able to get people there with a know how to repair it. that they would be able to get to the materials that are needed to carry out those repairs. is that a scenario that's been fall through as i don't think this is the biggest concern at the moment in terms of repairing and bringing the nuclear power plant back online, assuming that the territories liberated. i think the biggest concern nowadays to would a, an x that edu and radiation release some accident and the incident that could bring the release of the ready. so that's the biggest word. and 255 out of 6 of the actors and cold shut down, which probably means that there is a less of a concern about the states at the moment $5.00 to $6.00, the actor is still in the so called hawks up down. so there is more concerns about

that one. if there is a pressure, if there is in sound uh, getting save 6 fighting the stop working, there is an extreme blood pressure and mistakes, but they made the lead to use it as a cover. we appreciate your time and your valuable insights that we certainly will be following developments. thank you. you're most welcome. so what does all of this mean for your grade? he is on the ground, dw, the economy visited, the nearby ukrainian control, the city of nichol. there people not only faces the threat of russian showing, but now the risk of nuclear catastrophe being here and the other lying in bed. when a shell hits and advice bloss when trying every valve is covered at all, just happened so fast. i didn't even realize the simon's go off every night and the old plan already comes next morning. i can't remember at night without the simon's

ill works for local church before the war. they helped people with drug and alcohol addictions. now he's helping the 40000 people still left. survive that help in the move. you might think this is a town that caught sight back on the russians shoot just as every night and that can just get away with that. they don't even bother to move that guns, they just lead them standing where they were and they come back when they want to carry on. and this is why does a breezy nuclear power plant just a few kilometers the way it's occupied by russian soldiers. and they weapons the soul just to make life and make a pull, a nightmare say something to lose the ukrainians were 15, the time functions. but only just need with help since the kafka dime was destroyed . most levels here have dropped dramatically,

leaving wells dry watering food delivery times. i kept secret till the very last minute for fear that the russians ta get the crowd to the 3rd and 4th floor is if my building were destroyed by shelling, they were just going and showing the young man who lives on the 4th floor ended up in my flat on the 1st floor last the store. well no. we had to help him get the shards of glass. i took his legs. me, you board stick. i remember the bombings in world war 2. just as i was just a child's desk. that's how i remember ever saying this is it's all happening again . there's a, someone with some people here, fee of it's showing might not be the only piece of history repeated in this will create new leaders. say russia has mind a nuclear power station and would designate to be forced out by the counter

offensive instead of so hold on awesome care button. everyone's talking about the nuclear plants, wherever you go. when you go to get water or go to the shops, everyone's talking about research. it's really scary. i was pregnant winter noval happened, and my son was born disabled because of it is a to the number. we go to lots of radiation here in nick a call back then and yet for now at least it seems that those have held out through 16 months of daily selling, outgoing. anyway, we have young volunteers of 20 or 22 years olds coming to help us. some of the us that don't sketch then it's good. how can we even think about leaving the germany's foreign minister on the bare bulk is in south africa for talks, including talks on russia's war. and you crate or box said that the wagner march on

moscow last weekend and showed just how president fujen is destroying his own country. germany is pressing south africa to end. it's neutral stance for the this is nina hodges. she's travelling with the german foreign minister, germany and south africa see each other as very important partners when it comes to tackling global issues, such as the fight against the climate crisis, such as the attempt to get towards a more green economy adjusted economy. more equality also for women bought a lot of trusts, was damaged last year when south africa refused to join west and support as of ukraine and did not condemn russia's actions in ukraine, quite as openly as the west would have hoped. so this is a message coming out of the bedbugs sneezing with a south african count of policy today, at least talks of being resumed again, at least one side is willing to listen to the other. the positions might differ,

but there is a joint willingness to bridge those differences. germany says it's support. south africa's attempts of helping to bring about peace. now working on these documents on these concrete piece plans is already something that's gemini, says it is looking forward to doing together with south africa. maybe that will help overcome some of the differences that last year. so between those 2 countries, listening to his reporting there you're watching the day, we'll see you tomorrow, the, [000:00:00;00]

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