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the, the you have, disney goes and the russian leader of the wagner mercenaries was last seen in public. on june 24th. the day he awarded an armed mutiny headed from us scouts. and we were told that there'd been a deal that he'd move to bill a roost will today, the leader of bell, the ruth said that he's not here. troy russia. at the same time russian state tv reported st. petersburg police and rated for goshen department. the people who cross russian president vladimir putin are usually poisoned, imprisoned, or they died by falling out of hospital windows until today. it looked like per goshen, might just be the exception. i'm bring golf and berlin. this is the day the
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i know for sure that precaution is a free man. what is important to do is that mr. privilege appears to be traveling training tomorrow less. we don't track these movements. we need to have the opportunity no waste to do that. because things of really, really changing, i just absolutely unclear how what this story and i don't know everything about the relationship between putin and precaution, and i don't want to know everything about the pretty much to read it without comment for now i'll say coming up middle boss mark is that good burg, says you on most had the chance to make twitter into something bigger and better, but he blew it. think you're just had to stay. i think anything can basically rival tristan holidays. yeah, i mean i must eat on muskets complete the room. was you our
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viewers watching on cbs in the united states inch of all of you around the world. welcome. we begin the day with more of the mysteries surrounding the man in charge of rushes, wagner mercenary group. if getting progressions whereabouts are unknown tonight, after his board and insurrection 2 weeks ago, he agreed to move to build a roof. now that is according to the leader of bela bruce, alexander lucas shank out today. a surprising change of venue like a shane co saying that the wagner boss is no longer in beller roofs problem. going somewhere in russia, and about the same time, state television and rush that reported the police and rated provisions home in saint petersburg and discovered go money, a collection of wigs along with numerous fate passports. the wagner boss has not been been seen in public since the failed rebellion. back in june when he and his soldiers for hire attempted to march on the russian capital of that revolt ended
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when bela roo seen president alexander look ashamed. go shows that he stepped in and broke, or to d. o between wagner and the kremlin, that deal called for provision to move to build a roof in return rush, it would pursue no charges against him. like a shrink. i said the wagner mercenaries could also relocate to bell a ruse, just like their boss. apparently that has not have to look on the same here. but the moment of the question that transfer and set up as not yet being decided, they will depend on the decisions taken by the russian leadership of the wagner group. if they consider it necessary to station a set number of wagner fighters in belarus for arrest training and so on, we will fulfill that decision sonya with me speech and we don't track his business . we need to have the opportunity no waste to do that. also look, i think
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a said that he has plans to meet with the russian president so well indeed, the 2 presidents boots in and look a single they communicate quite often. do i pay again to put you on? oh gosh, i'm can you just, how would you not report on all of that telephone conversations? you go to function, right? that's the if there's a line from the kremlin, let's go now to our rush analysts, konstantin acres. he joins me from vilnius and lithuania because i think it's good to see you. i know that you've been working your sources, whether you're hearing about promotions, whereabouts? branching out, you know, forces in this case could be owing to either mr. fortune or mr. pretty gordon voss . uh i do not have access to them. uh what i think to me uh, it's just different uh, just by us from reading a lot of for russian telegram from me and speaking to one po, number which is
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a restriction which was by suite. the recording is probably probably neither in billings northern rush. and frankly, i totally understand because page you yourself are put in the enemies of the end up dead. and the guardian knows the best of them. a lot of other people so much suspicion is that he slipped out all of this kind of reach of luck in the future. and watch lacrisha was saying about the mercenary soldiers under basic and it should be a testifies to the fact that the part of the group, at least as far as the rushing upside is probably no longer well, where we're for goes in, go in, in your you know educated, guess your opinion that would give him the most amount of safety. what do you have
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to go to? what africa or i think in africa that would be quite risky for him. i can only guess. maybe he has passports, not, not only russian cost me, but his money, he could have bought himself any kind of investment passports in the account of the for example, where i think, you know, go is pending. where, where are we, where can we can be accessed, reached easily by the may call comforts. mm hm. and the closest the lines of setting zealand, you know, south korea, japan. so i'd say, well, maybe it's me, least me, that's our nature. but maybe it's in the caribbean and probably possible to have a different plan. so we have these russian passports with different names on consumption. frequently, slightly these guys, me then why not buy a passport?
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we're not going to name the countries, not everyone knows that give passports for investment. you're describing the plot of almost like a james bond movie here. i mean, if this is indeed the case, if he has, you know, gotten out of the country um, in disguise. what about the images we sold today on russian state televisions, i'm claiming that police in st. petersburg had at some point, rated the residents of production, and what they found were bars of gold, money, fig passports, lots of wigs. i mean, it's everything you would need for this james bond thriller, you know, looking at pictures from recordings, calls of what attracted me, a general even every time. every time there is a search in russia and boots and wants to make, you know, one of the boy yars paid for the coach to go from rich. you'll receive his gold
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watches cash. so on this one. but i don't think that it's right. maybe i should even more than weeks influence possible. it's this huge pack of rushing money. the minute the note's with all the details of the price and the branch, the a or the deposit location of the bank of rush. i've spoken to financial experts and they said that to get such kind of money such package you really have to deal with the very, very high level of state or federal just because the some, some money. and that just was the, regardless, operating when absolutely full control over at least the elements of the russian sex. and that basically shows us that something really went wrong with him during
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this region law school and probably some of his allies in the last moment. you can doubt, but there is a lot of that's, he was very, very intimately linked to very high issue, most of the russian before. so he may go down in history as the one who got away when were talking about, you know, those who dare to cross vladimir putin. that what about the these, the thousands of wagner mercenaries who were with him in this a boarded insurrection attempt on the 24th of june. what's going to have, what's gonna happen to them? do we know what their fee is going to be? well, the official suggestion to that was during the long run for me will not pay them as much of the rest long even subject them to the elements of discipline. and that do not exist in nursery farms. and um,
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i think the problem with this is actually by the garden and by poor thing just just i'm just trying to think what would be try. so there must be a lot of bizarre to fight, especially for smaller sums of money. and i do not believe that the lot of the person, i don't know that the local, then we'll go and join the ball. and i, what i can imagine is that other people will be delegated to create a new project management company as well. so child be old on the right and use them an effort, go somewhere else. we have no testimony. we have no information that for example, the operations in an effort to buy. so maybe that good to be focused. yeah. the one thing other way and the never ending story. the w. rush analysts, konstantin, and good companies always. thank you. fascinating. getting your analysis. thank you . thank you. right. well, there has been no lit up in rushes. attacks on you crate today of russian missile
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strike on the ukrainian city. levine killed at least drive people in injured dozens more. levine is located in western ukraine. far from the front lines. and yet it has come under repeated attack. the mayor says this attack, or this latest air strike, is the worst to hit the city's civilian infrastructure since the start of the war. show curriculum all over that faces neighbor's friends and family dead, or finally injured. a community fall from the front line, but now at the center of this devastating goal. i said you russians are helping us. that's how they like us. i'm sorry for those people who were killed. they were young. so sorry for them. in tie of flows of this apartment building and lives destroyed,
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cause turned into twisted scraps of metal as old. as i came back and found out that my mother had died, my neighbors had died. this point, it seems that i was the only one who survived from the 4th floor. it's a miracle. this is the worst if it was for the rescue, whereas we wouldn't have got highest of the apartment. they broke down the door and less of size. i have no apartment, nothing. i can't talk anymore. i'm left with eyes anything. ukraine says russia attacked living with cruise missiles, which would known from the black sea. it says 7 was shot down with 3 go through. as you can see, the main restroom goal is, of course, the destruction of the ukrainian people. this is a want to the day, but we will, when we are holding onto the search for survivors
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continues. as does the clean up these people's lives will never be the same again. is this truly the twilight of twitter? mark sucker burg is betting on it is company meta which owns facebook. instagram in whatsapp has launched its own micro blogging platform and it's called threads. millions of people have already signed the twitter. you may remember last users and advertisers after it was taken over by you on most last year. the morning i don't want to pull in joshua tucker. he's a professor of politics at the georgia center for the advance study. of russia, he's also co director of the n y u center for social media and politics. it's good to have you with us this evening . you know, threads is basically just out of the gates and already there are reports we, we've got to a twitter um getting a cease and desist order against threads. how do you read this?
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well, i read it as twitter must see trends as a threat at this point, which is a bit more than it has a re, a bit more than how it is, reacted to some of the other twitter clones that we've seen emerging in the last couple of by the last, you know, year or so, since you must took over twitter. the big question here right around the lawsuits, of course, is going to be how do you prove this? how do you prove that there was intellectual property threats that here in a world where there are already lots of different social media platforms that all look fairly similar to each other. so in terms of legal side of things we're going to have to, we're going to have to, um, you know, wait and see what happens. but it is interesting. the numbers i size of a couple hours ago was they were claiming they already had 30000000 people who had signed up for threats. and clearly twitter has been, you know, pushed to take action at this point. and i understand too that they're, they're trying to, to get people to use their instagram log in to get in to threats. now, we know that instagram has a 1000000 users worldwide. i mean,
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just the sheer numbers here. and these numbers obviously make the chances of for threats to be the one to the throne. twitter makes those chance is as good as anybody's doesn't it? right? i mean, so this has been the pattern we've seen with social media companies and social media platforms, which is that when you don't introduce something new, what we call a new affordance, a new characteristic of the platform, it's very hard to the throne, the incumbent. like if you look at upstarts that have been successful, you have things like twitter which introduced micro blogging or i instagram which introduce sharing photos or tick tock which introduce short form videos. and since most gets taken over twitter, we've seen lots of different kind of various types of twitter clowns that have come about. we've seen truth social, we've seen blue sky. we see mastodon and then there's more of these out there. and in all cases, there's a bit of fanfare when they 1st started off or something happens on twitter that people think is going to lead to more people go into these platforms. but then they kind of feed, right,
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because they don't really offer anything new. and we don't really have a good example of a social media platform that has, you know, gotten to the level of prominence of like a tick tock without actually having anything new to it. but as you said, what does differentiate threats from the all these other attempts previously to come up with that kind of twitter alternative is the power of matter and the power of how many users this has to, has been very interesting to see, for example, that they did launch this threats has been launch is essentially a part of or an addendum to instagram. and so it does make it when you saw i went in, signed up last night with soon as you sign up. the 1st thing they ask you do is you, would you like to follow everybody who you're currently following on instagram? if they were to bring to bear the power of other networks that they have people in such as facebook or even what's app. it does give, this gives the reds an advantage that some of these other platforms are at, but it's still not filled out yet. it's still an up to about. yeah, you know, we can't find a sign up for it here in the european union because there are concerns here in the
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you about, you know, protection to private data there, all kinds of concerns of attached to anything that is attached to mother and facebook. for example, the facebook is being used by the russians to influence us presidential elections. how concerned should people be that threads could be used by the russians to put out this information about the war in ukraine moving forward? yeah, i mean, so this is the question with all social media platforms. now, right, social media platforms have tremendously reduced the barrier to sharing information, whether it's text based information that we see and threads. it's videos that we see and tick tock or youtube photos and combinations that we see and facebook or instagram. this is always the issue. it is reduce the barriers to sharing information. so it makes it a lot easier for anyone to share information. then they want to do previously. now one thing we know from social science research is that the vast majority of the
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information that gets shared on the social media media platforms and on the internet. generally, the vast majority of it is, is, you know, correct information or opinionated information with this kind of what we worry about with these kind of disinformation campaigns. they're kind of a small drop in the bucket, but you're absolutely right to ask. we have a new social media platform. we now have to ask, what are going to be the controls on it, to control this information here in the united states. the question of this information has gotten a highly politicized, and what platforms do about it. and so each one of these times whenever we get one of these new platforms gets a question of how the platform is going to seek to control it. now in the case of again with trends, what makes it different from the launch of, say, blue sky or the launch of st. mastodon and asking about content moderation is that meto already has a massive content, moderation operation, that it is employed in terms of facebook and in terms of instagram. and is obviously thinking about in terms of the matter versus, in terms of all these different questions. so in terms of, should we be concerned about a new social media platform being a vector for it,
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for act, for bad actors to try to utilize that platform to share information that could be harmful? sure, we should be worried about this. but this, again, is new in the sense that we've got an offer to, we've got here a platform that has a long history as far as long goes and the social media era of trying to think about content, moderation, and deal with these kind of threat vector so again it's, it's a little bit different than just a new upstart. yeah, i mean we're going maybe possibly some tweeting the threading. what to see what happens, josh, we're talking, we appreciate your time in your valuable insights and night. thank you. thanks so much for having me or or russia is not just using bombs and missiles against ukraine. it's international propaganda. war has been deployed half truths, rumors and this information in a variety of languages and with more than 500000000 speakers. spanish is a key vehicle for generating a sympathetic russian narrative. 6th of june,
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2023. the nova hoff got them collapses and ukraine and videos like this one shared and viewed thousands of times in the spanish speaking world. but of course, there are many face this use a here claims that this video shows the moment when the them exploded. this, this leading? yes, we see the same them, but a reversed image search shows the video was published in november 2022. the tweet blames ukrainians for the exposure at the latest them as nazis. many other use us use the same description like in these tweets calling ukrainians. nazis is one of the major narratives of this war by spanish speaking accounts spreading this information. looking at the content on ukraine, russian state back accounts have use the term nazi 50 percent more often since the invasion and according to experts. there's a reason for this. also let in america,
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it's a very quick way of generating rejection toward government by linking it to not citizens. another major dis, information. narrative focuses on lensky himself. is crediting ukraine's president as a person and politician to legitimize the war this video, which was few thousands of times, claim savanski, wants the war to continue as a reaction european poly meant terry and to leave the session. but this claim is false. reverse image search and the science on the tables lead us to the origin of the video, an austrian paul, even session earlier this year. here politicians of the far right austin f period policy that leave the room during the speech by the lensky. however, he didn't say that he wanted the war to continue. but why is the lensky often to target himself? best so nice to have a life there's realizing rushes war on a character and discrepancy that character. as an ad hominem operation that
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propaganda also, employees find that not that major narrative focuses on infectious. they have become an important tool of russian propaganda in spanish. recent studies shows of the 15 most were tweeted accounts surveyed 7 for independence. spanish speaking influences, one such spanish speaking influenza. as leo savannah, you go, she shares this leading claims about the war with thousands of all the words. the goal hosting support for the russian government did not fluid yet is said husky, and she has been doing so throughout the course of the war year. she's explaining how well russians are rebuilding my review for city and south east and ukraine. this claim is misleading. the volume doesn't mention that russia was the one to destroy the city. she only shows how it is now building new apartments or playground. and according to studies, she's not the only influence of spreading russian narrative in spanish. one though
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a lot like when official information is discredited, there is an attempt to turn to other voices how the citizen voices tend to be more credible as so much good evening. tough truce rumors and this information, all in all a way of strengthening rushing perspectives on the war and ukraine. the russians have an opening there because they can dress themselves up as being different from the western world. and it's a significant opening with a global reach of almost 500000000 spanish speaking. it's one of the languages for russian propaganda. the tweeting, threading, when police force india the retaining an antiquated perch to do they're communicating. i'm talking about carrier pigeons. now we want to be clear here. the wind messengers are not the main mode of communication for the police, but the cop say they do see this as
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a feather in their care. i'm really from the past. as for police in india, eastern a visa speed, these homing regions i've tried and tested tradition. they have been trying to get important messages, just in case morton communication systems feed. because the pigeon carriers that we have it since 1994 to $6.00 and the service was basically used for communicating from one station to another station. now v help kept it as a heritage, as i say, the one. the other thing with us here in just to be of course, more than 100 boats go through the exercise a copper or a plastic cap. food containing a message estate to the beach and slick. they are then released fully expected to reach the destination. the books have long been used by with dfs. the parties
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up until 2006 gave you a pigeon square still unimportant. we defend messages between a dfcs 400 police stations like that as well. many story that we're, we're just coming to our middle coming and sending a message out criminal to being caught, you know, somebody coming in to murder anatomy. the sent them i said with the pigeon. he wasn't the separate on the name of the police. the, you know, foreclosure has so many accounts of how the pigeons have attended very white to services, you know, in times and on. it's hard to see the train that you'd be doing this can slide up to 25 cuz i need to send back and the memory and accuracy of destination means in fact, for us to watch out where you're standing. today's almost done the conversation. you think he's online to find us on twitter at the w needs, you can follow me on twitter at bridge dot tv and remember, whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day. we'll see you then in the,
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and wagner in bella. ruth estimates to ukraine and nato. that's our topic on to the point to detroit, the a haunted power dice. 31 told us that to use off to the genocide with the staples government and of the lower shing economy. foreign investors are rushing into the country such as the watch prize. busy i look behind the shiny facade of success in 45 minutes on dw, the guardians of the truth. i have paid almost every price of the $2.00 in
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the country like turkey taking all the powers that be they risk every thing john, do dar needs activists, journalists and politicians living in exile the way to which of the list for their mission, what drives them. people need to know what is happening there were series guardians of truth watch. now on youtube dw documentary, the put disarray in russia. mean gain for ukraine. although it's cut or offensive has made slow progress. merot rose following the failed march on moscow by the wagner group . who's brutal tactics of spilled much ukrainian blood, the longer term fade of wagner's mercer.
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