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a white house official say the decision is quote on that active consideration as part of a new width and it's a, it's a message from the news team for now i have an update for you at the top of the hour, of course and who owns the beautiful net for t t questions of ownership of antiquities raised and all the dunk filled, and that's not god else's timberly to me and the new speed the it's all just practice at the national base in brooklyn, with a wayne 7 months before russia attacked ukraine. a field team, documents, daily life in the town. how are the people of the growing tension
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currently to go in and be insight starts july 8th on dw, won't with the b without this a t t. what is this a t t belong to everyone? and both to please a t t had never left egypt a told her name means the beautiful one has come. she's timeless. and she speaks to us. she has been catholic, positioned, independent museum, and dismiss just as much about co she's been the subject of disputes between countries since she was discovered. and if a t t, an object of desire the,
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the beautiful and f a t t who owns the ship is suddenly on the road into the full royal city of amana, on the side of the street. a huge replica benedicts of why an expression due to dot is tracking this ancient egyptian queen. and the best of nefertiti is one of the most famous works of oaks in the world. causes 3 of us will use to disrupt the teaser post when i look at the bus different f a t t i think of how ancient she is . but she also seems very close to us. these, those shows that she's very pressing display. it's her age, mary, cut them on the we were in egypt. benedicts of want insisted on visiting a mona alone,
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denied in central egypt. nefertiti as best was dug up here over a century ago. says wow, wants to find out more about the artwork and it's history. me somebody come up to complete a demo because next, which of these to out of the museum? it but that when dealing with museum history, but also as a normal visitor, we should be aware of where the object. so these are the only the most significant t t end up, nothing i mean, but then well, many other pieces discuss it around the world is do not have them on which i think it's important to be aware of where they actually originated from the 5th. that exist, see something to do and where they are not located now, did you? we list we but we just the egypt around 1900 wrath footage. it shows how rapidly incredibly
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valuable trashes were ripped from the desert sands. european nations took everything they could find, and german archaeologist ludovico shot, made us say, tional find on december 6th, 1912 tea on the head of a queen. the she's been to the need and is united by all the the copies of the best and building, decorate egyptian roadsides. but the original has never been shown in homeland.
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which is because no money discovered we didn't know what to cost. the 1st one, the fittest, one in their lead museum in germany. unfortunately. yep. beautiful. and even if it's on my feet hurt himself to skin or shark live. here's unfinished, but how beautiful face mines between the lips. magnificent and i'm sending egypt also has the past. it's in the egyptian museum, which attracts visitors from all over the world with its version of an f,
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a t t. but guided tours here, oh is mentioned the even more impressive piece in but in the cairo best of nesa t t next, the same for ness such as the detailed painting on the famous blue crown. but the autistic expressiveness of the head is unmistakable to anyone who stands before it. people identify with an f, a t t. the former queen is time this and modern lives dream to see their w too. i'm likely to be like a big salt for me because i never saw it in my real life. so that's something will be really make me so happy to see you. so hopefully it's a good time to back to you just one day. so i can see, i know we do like towards sort of thing coming all over the world. so the kind of
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thing that you've sent through god, i would love to see the head of the tv in egypt, at least for one second. let me see you did to mislead the i'm a jeep sion and so is my petition. this is what you not so it's been that i could be one of her grandchildren and i said we the very least to share the same homeland with both. the gibb shouldn't be lovely enough, but i wish that if a teacher is bossed would be brought to cairo, enjoying the rest of the pieces in egypt shall museum the moment. that is really my wish to send them to the museum island invalid oppression. kings open major museums here as part of the global competition . so the best collections piece is what brought from over the welds and f. a t t is
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one of the biggest attractions, no visit to been in is complete with out to visit to museum islands own mona lisa. through the holes of the noise museum paused countless showcases featuring the highlights of pharaoh nik ops. the root finds the leads to queen nestor t t a grand production adieva on her own stage. the the icon has a pedestal and bell in should she stay or should she go a century old debate? it's got the definitive to somebody to can talk kind of fits 100 for the deck. additionally, give them there has never been an official demand for returned by the egyptian government sort of in the separately egyptian ambassadors and germany have said
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never a t. t is a wonderful advertisement for egyptian culture to help them. she is the best ambassador for egypt and egyptian culture imaginable. take up different quick things are a very different perspective. so, and it's of course, important to us that you just want the addiction embassy. good. see this museum not only wouldn't have had teachings yet, but also with other examples of ancient egyptian culture as they are placed and that they also use it see addiction embassy sometimes has receptions here. and i think that's a very important collaboration. some countries because on the yeah, the of got a decent. they all task is to preserve the pieces of world culture, the house to you. we must protect and preserve and maintain them as best we can. one highest. the way i see is that managed transport house. one of the question would be to teach, i'm pumped and
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it was created 3300 years ago. this bus made of limestone and covered with a layer of costa some suspected was just a model for other versions made of stem. others think it was made for worship. the famous blue crown is painted with colored glass powder. there's a hint to dress. she is considered the most beautiful women in the world. realistic and impressive symbol tenuously. the material used to the artwork is west less, but ensure is valued. it's 400000000 euros just a few years ago. how does she belong to? a history is taught from a no tentative perspective at berlin's technical university, professor benedicts of why reconstruct the roots artist taken? how did objects from africa, land, and european museums?
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she calls for radical transparency with public collections. and she's changing how these venerable institutions have traditionally seen themselves, the security of using the new for me, but not, you know what the museums don't do, never have done those naturally. do they don't show how the pieces go to the museum . they bruce, these huge seal comalla to suckle 5, come up. they know when you start to take an interest in how this addiction bus to that. so i'll call for guess, we'll have the freeze. if the posting on came to london from athens tell the pieces came to the news read this originated in today's iran and the rock. then you realize that they were not dropped off at the museums by helicopter. so one fine day. but the global geo political power relations play a role integrated yet and just was yeah, how do you perceive yourself asking people seem easy. so guess what the left has do
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with the music. you realize that the golden, shimmering facade of the museums. is there any one side of the coins you'd like to jump it to come? what if you flip this coin nose however you see stories of violence, slow lifting and humiliation noodles to prevents with diseased well disposed? yes, true. it's important to me that this the other side is also told a demo on that portion t look as you see, the other shows the menu really got it. how do we use our museums? how do we put objects into them? what do we teach? children in these museum, these on the museum, those can how do we as a society, you lucas, how selves in these magnificent museums? we'll get them to see. i'll talk to see if they don't seem easy. christy because this school has its price as well as play to suit all the
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so its organs i may have for you so you can see the house and i meant to come see him the entrance of the house and do usually as well as the same design of the house as if i'm out of me and in this room, exec 3 little thought finds the positive and 50 p. it would be here. yeah, it wouldn't be in this site to be close book club for kids, 40 years from 1910. the 1914 and the big great to 100, we thought by to 100 meet them is coming some houses of all type of house. but the most the most important discovery was 1912, the boss of mississippi. and some of them over, you know, in the museum the, here's the main location of the, of, of, of the executive this rule. and usually we know that the boss of the details here is spot to this location. these was these, what was the house peasy logistics by all 976 house,
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3472 room 19. even december 6th, 1912. and then it says he painted fast as a queen with smoothly cut weak flesh pots, reddish yellow lips, red nostrils, strongly deep, and eyes. one missing is p, as nick muscle. strongly indication 2 very like wrinkles leading up from the, in a corner of each line downward. that's the fluid, it's at a, it's at the the music bush out, the gym, and knock you on the just quietly recorded his sensational find in his excavation channel. he already had an inkling of what he had found. he would do everything in his power to bring nessa gigi into gem enhanced good when
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the fine was divvied up later the. the site was the scope to swap shop and how many valuable fines for the archeologists. the excavation was financed by patron james simone. the general in the archives of the gyptian museum in berlin, contains books, child sketch, of the room in which the best of nefertiti was found a few pages on a small drawing of this discovery of the century, the following, the colors as if recently applied. okay, excellent. work well, no point describing it. you have to see it. and
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i want to know if you are sad about the fact that the, or the fonts of amman now know for it to connect to an etc. i know in billing or so i'm sad about the, the for the, the bus by hopes that all the objects important object, which is i put in museum outside the egypt to attend the back to the motherland egypt. which would be the total for, for the addiction and from the community. affords daddy thoughts of the blood in the hidden amount of 9, the east bank that it could be very close to the city. since i'm young, looked as authorities tend to have no present ticket is, and i stuck to my work as i've killers and doesn't speak to it. and they love this
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war. so i try to give my beast and all my you for the 2 sessions. this feel done. so if there's a specialist, you know, and i think in the future it would be fine if or is it people do like because i think it was over something good for the, for the antiquities and 80 percent. and it said to really seem to be on the bed, the g being here doesn't help me learn more about town with facebook shot to act on behalf of the gym and oriental society back then shift any book, meaning what it does, give me a sense of how tasks were distributed around 1900, you see passed through the dash, the great britain was responsible for infrastructure that gone by the time you. ok . so if you put the management of antiquities was traditionally in front tens in e, i said these, these don't to be full say, how do you see from even consider egypt its door to its 1st born at that time would defeat the plant had done so since napoleonic times, several of you. it's
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a great privilege for me to be able to revive the knowledge of this period. if you don't want a play going example, village never really happened in egypt. back then benedict's of was travels to paris. the institute of phones is now home to the historical documents of the french and to put to use authority what will be archived, tell her about the discovery of egyptian antiquities under the french flag fronts granted the license to dig in a large reading room, benedicts of what is allowed to read the historical correspondence between german archaeologist lew depo, shot and french authorities. let us tell her how the best of nefertiti was discovered and eventually found its way to bed in her research began after the
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events on to her real square in 2011. so i'm oklahoma. just gonna cut off hub on the sheet symbol. don't lose yes with democratic declaring what we now know is the arabs springs that momentum. and susie has them for democracy with those demonstrations by young people in terry, a square that was inspired to contribute to the democratic movement. asians, as you'd see on asia, sab, somewhat not easily, in a moment of solidarity while her move on the move. so okay, this predicament 52, i want you to share my knowledge of how the boss doesn't f a t t who is so important to each of these collective memory. came to burnett and really speak to slot. did they? did you forget the time when egypt was not independent? doesn't fit your needs. you need the bus on the ground on egypt and fronts, have a lengthy history. the country on the nile suddenly quote europe's attention.
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during the podium subscription campaign, in 1798 and the battle of the pyramids, egypt was to become a french province, but never did. what remained was a close relationship between the 2. the, the french influence can still be felt in cairo today. the stock exchange district was modeled on paris in the 19th century. formerly, however, egypt was under british control, 110 years ago. that it was not until 1922 that the country became an independent kingdom. soon shifting. imagine some probably just gonna have a do it up on me again and yeah, shortly before the outbreak of world war one,
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egypt was divided vertically up. everything above ground belongs to england because egypt was a british protector and sneezing all roads. the water supply the seas, they were all under british administration. and everything below the ground was french because egypt antiquities also receives, had been in french turns for several decades. this division meant that the egyptians themselves had little to say and anything below ground coffee, gyptian egyptology, did not yet exist these delusion isab since the packed up and taken ancient egyptian culture left the country on mass and crates. bound to paris, london, berlin and new york. in 1912, the french antiquities authority passed a new rule,
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all fines which would be divided up. exactly. one, how for egypt, the other for those who funded the excavation? good, faith beauchamp didn't like this arrangement. and he wrote, elected to the director general of the junction antiquities authority will fit yeah. the yeah, getting an idea direct to general mr. lewis and this you the fast, the was here today to develop adults. this is fine when the full, the number a dx, the q sion of the division what she exact was obviously embarrassing to him. but he persevered amiably. so it was not to significantly damage scientific interests in the process to the associated with. this put, find the belong together, still have to be separated, is not his fault. this is due to the new regulation,
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know which, as i know, we both regret including lies, but that was the location culture heritage foundation in bending, now owns the signs that were awarded to james team on the excavations finance. in 1913, the touchingly delicate statue of the queen and a spin, wrote many of the pieces are working models, unfinished specimens from the sculptors workshop. but nothing comes close to the impact of the kind of queen legends have even a much about an f. a t t exodus or shot sheet was nitro, a t t intentionally hidden partially visible on the german part of the site.
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the cases photographic documentation from the time refutes this legend. what's the best smidge with clay to conceal its venue? maybe it was actually stolen. i. 9, i so with this because it's these are logged duty honeycutt. them involved almost no . the legal situation and all the regulations were at that time such that we cannot say it was stolen at the store and these cheap ass rotations, but never a t. t was smeared with clay placed in a cardboard box in a dark corner where no lights fell. and keep losing the match, simply nonsense. if we see the half dozen wonderful photos from different angles that were handed over before they sat down together to divide up to find with it before, that's how it was done back then. and we have to accept that done as soon as i can just respond to my we have to find a way to move forward and you always object to, but to completely undo history. and i don't think that's the right way to look up
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to the couldn't talk to some stuff to cubic nefertiti is in the noise museum as a result of a historical mistake. and we cannot change history because it happened, but we can cortex this mistake. the monica hannah's commitment to protecting the world's cultural heritage has into an international reputation for her research in addiction. archives has led to believe that the little was broken when the find was defined it up in 1913, i think, according even to the law, that's was back in 1912. uh no, uh, mazda piece is what allows you to. and even if they did the plus stars, so that was contested. egypt had that i to reimburse the excavated the money necessity that he paid for the dig in exchange of this object. and both being on the committee that was supposed to protect the heritage of egypt should have known
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this and he definitely knew this. and he probably started to hide nefertiti in the way that the dixon offices would not suspect the. so here was, is an egyptologist just loved to quote him, the media savvy scientist has been the face of addiction archaeology for decades. he was one's head of the antiquities authority and introduce national leaders and celebrities to egypt. high culture, a fights for the return of cultural heritage from a broad for you to down to get it to you if the division of the fines. * how can fully not make decisions about the most of these are the low was low in that time, if you discover, and in that group you're going to take it out. the reason if you discover a statute of a king or queen made of limestone,
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you're going to take it out to you. so that was the whole. how with this being room to change the little they have no right to do that. tension has been building over the past several years between egypt and gemini, one voice in this post colonial debate is your going to an african color based them handbook. he's looking at the significance of colonialism in german society and wants germany to come clean about its violent imperial history. isn't that edition. i can be finished to execute this. it is actually acetate and acceptable. this when it's a from pathetic that people result to saying it would have been permitted. now it was the right of the strongest sacrament, or this volunteer between one. and they will all coupons before dividing up the fines meant that european rulers in egypt gave themselves the right to take it gyptian antiquities out of the country. i go to share, i'm to prepare,
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i'll set longest the if you little know your boss so you will never know your future. and therefore, for us nursing and government affairs, those people they did the was mat justice center through. and this why they the to the peak and everything. and i'm also the belief of the, of the life, both the egypt good. that belief made them do leave to us this gates organization. i think this is not according to have or the direction of texting with the museum stuff, but i think this is a cause to have what's the significance for uh, adoption past this and as you said, the transparency of facts of history to yes documents and i can i think it's the most important because if you have new these transparency you have right now. right
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. exactly. yes african people have not the i think my presentation was never to see goes to i comes from so i go up with the image in the city on the missing queen that you can see the images everywhere. so you can see that i've clicked as everywhere the age since it's a, it's been lifted within the egyptian. they deal with women go forth facilitated to as i know my grandmother who since went once and swam in the lake of caustic,
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actually goes pregnant. so that is this idea that the samples are very much and i and then not this, this face of the museum of an archaeological sites. and i think the with should open that eyes in, in looking at such culture to continue with you that does not conform to the intellectual way more than people can identify with the thoughts. shortly after the discovery of the best of nefertiti, the queen became the focus of political intrigue. a tug of war began between egypt, germany, and france. benedicts of was found something interesting during her reception from the nefertiti file from the 19 twenty's. the dispute over the location of the past, which continues to the state, emerged from franco german enmity after the 1st world war.
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she used old newspaper articles, alleges to recount the 1st time egypt oscar for the bus back a century ago. the chip sion mazda piece was not shown to the public until 1924, and especially designed hole in the noise museum. photos was circulated beforehand to spawn curiosity and publicity. the queen became an object of desire and the french regret at that generosity in granting the bus to the germans see that they didn't accept it. you know, if you know, if the bus different f a t c did not return to cairo, the germans, the prussian spelling would never again receive permission today. because that's like blackmail. they would not get upon match if an f a t t did not return to me, it seems this blackmail was fed by the hatred that existed on the french side towards german egyptology. they argued in the name of the egyptians in the name of
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addiction, cultural heritage, left cortex only. but some one did you see the, the germans and the french ultimately made a deal in exchange for the past 2 statues, from cairo, what to go to berlin. one of them was a renew for an influential court officials, a prime example of ancient egyptian art. but not very graceful character tourist immediately began to take a the spots time that already been fee is several years earlier. nefertiti might just be a temporary visitor. in building an artist had begun work on a copy in 1926. it was to be better than the original technicians at pest could use the small table most happened. the date had been sent, but in 1933, the very last moment from the hit to intervene to stop the project,
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which had been agreed during the weimar republic to each this king stopped. city mouse gave it the money for the press claims that he had fallen in love with queen f, a t t the price of july, because he must give it to me. i would not have anything a heads up planned, a separate building for the best. an oriental museum, opposite today's museum island. the 2nd world war put an end to these plans. for protection, the queen was packed up again and disappeared into an auntie across the bunk. it wasn't until decades later, when museum island was redesigned, the bust of nefertiti returned to add the story of its appropriations again to the noise museum. the
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violin now presents the wheels according to the rules of european museum. ok. she staged as a mega attraction. what remains invisible, however, is the eventful history of how long journey the good. oh oh fun. human lloyd you whole. so here from young a chip sions. this is yes of course. this is an object that we always want to my room for me. but on the other hand, you also see what she symbolizes here. as an ambassador, she has also become an object of identification here. and if you go to him,
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that's extraordinary. she's an object of identification, full, yes. actually 2 coaches by quinton governess. this arguments that now for a t t is an unbox so that i think makes me very, very angry because an investor that entails at the rustic exchange, i have not seen a company that only samsung best with it and does not receive one. and so where is the crown of 3? but if they have gross income, it or we do not have the waiters, i'm out, but it's due to of kind of germany kind of with it isn't. so it's ridiculous that they say nefertiti, that's like you're not talking to 5 year on the you know, it's a piece of information. and some boy,
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this is miss dundas and i because she was to me a symbol of a kind of grief and politics of representation. that the global most appropriate for in recent years. and it was an attempt to work with an icon that has great power to tell a different story each to so it's not just about and if a t t not then not. now it's more of a launch in our channel. that's what i think is it the question of ownership needs to be clearly defined or to speak the opposite and with will with and if a t t all the other objects to then exhibit says or located system that's not the point to show. don't get this guy and it's a bunch of who decides with a location, just think assessment, and i think that would have to be clarified. and in most cases that would clearly be the societies of origin. yeah. and or take nora boundary. use the 3 d scan to that is actual image, and that's a t t. as part of an op project, the,
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the digital and f a t t was put online in 2015. it attracted a lot of attention. and it was reported on world wide. and it again raised question of who owns nefertiti, the that he must the subject of the country and who has the power to control the ok and as and why it is clinging to the old imperial position to live at this moment and see it would have been the best scenario i can see now is that the objects to borrow just all that they travel. and this is mostly the rest of it all except in some individual case. and that's what this off my was it. but at the end of the day, these objects must no longer belong to these powerful institutions. and the global most men do and these institutions must no longer control the buttons to him. and
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of these other was not much would have changed and touch issues. and the, just a stone's throw away from the great pyramids stands, the gigantic new grand egyptian use. the in this and vicious project was integrated into the tourist infrastructure of cairo, before it was even finished. and it created high expectations the grand egyptian museum highlights the importance of the ferry and it costs for the country today. actually it was very important for us to filter the word that we do get about our buttons and we
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show our money minutes in a great condition. and actually, i remember i made the debate was the director of the get t and the director of v in the arthur museum. they would say that don't send off faxes countries, they don't have good museums. this was the oxford, as to the debate. and i said to them that we do have museums in egypt, and now bits of the any museum in any place in europe or i read it to show that even we other countries that we need money for living. but we preserve our money, which ones are just basic entity to me, this whole debate about museums is preserving institutions. so of course that you want to be constantly criticize you 2 days ago. it wasn't an easy face for the whole of society hasn't changed. and the last 5 to 10 years from the great opportunity that museums and cultural institutions have today is that we really
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have to work together in an increasingly connected world, which is to them and to develop a way forward to that there is real sharing. i think that's the goal, that's as if we return a few objects and that's it depicted so then for me that much has been achieved and the services to the highest the museum as an institution is finally being put into question of to 200 years new topics restitution. participation, dakota nice ation. have triggered rethink. the focus had traditionally been on the work of off, but it's diverse relationships often remains hidden. voice news and 1st of all we need is a completely new museum concept. namely, museums that no longer showcase the great net sky and via the greatness of the business or patronage that makes it possible for these objects to be in the land in paris or in london. but instead, focus on the history of this exploitation did use the history of this relationship
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and this colonial relationships. you know, in other words, we need a complete re imagining those museums where the originals are no longer important. antonio never speaks in nora. l. vodree is already way ahead. her number is t t belongs to everyone, the she traveled to the does it with, has 3 d copy and brought it back to egypt. but that's not true. the artist also buried the best and the sand. let's ends. it's ultimately it's plastic 3 d. it will be there for millennium, which means that this box can be found in 10 years, some way they are in this the heart, or in 3000 years. it might still be that was the benefit of kind of counting those mental ways, taking everything up and wanting to own the
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clinic is still suppose do for tv. so the question arises whether the bus different, if a t t should be returned or not, my own, so would be we must take the rest to, to sion request, serious lankin. and we must learn to listen boots one to 200. these are not political demands, we have to see them as a cultural need. a cultural demand should be taking these demands seriously would be a stop. the best one, when we talk about cultural heritage, there are no easy answers. those let those who need teach do so for the owners of the pieces have mostly disregarded to mom's restitution, peaceful country that slight. and when you ethical approach is needed to do bundled institutional disabilities.
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