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the, the, this is the, the we news line from berlin, b u. s. is set to announce cluster bombs for ukraine. the pentagon is expected to include thousands of the controversial weapons in new military. a package for the fight against russia. rights groups are raising concerns also coming up. nato prepares for a key summit with a focus on membership for ukraine and sweden. there are questions, though,
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over the alliances capabilities are retired us general health d. w. nato is not ready to freeze any threats from russia. and nearly a year since the anti government protests broke out across around the balloon minority in the southeast, is keeping up the pressure on the virginia monteros. plus we meet the south to the national basketball team that is making history and this year's world cup that's and the rest of the days for is coming up later in the conference. it's good to have you with us. the by minute ministration is expected to announce a new military aid package for ukraine, including controversial cluster bombs. he wants the weapons for the war with russia, but the bombs are banned by over 120 countries because they kill and maim
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indiscriminately human rights groups. say both sides have already use them and oppose more being sent to ukraine of a graveyard dismissals and hockey's the remnants of russian munition. to have devastated civilian life in pulse of ukraine. among them, the rockets used to launch cluster bones. a large number of small explosives packed into these containers and released me to with the potential to close extensive damage to an area of the size of a city block such as hit in cost intuitive costs assist you in ukraine's dot net screech. and which was his in march this year by cluster bombs, local firefighters trying to contain the damage undetected cluster munitions that
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don't explode. can also may move killed people decades later. on thursday, the pentagon press secretary defended the use of the weapons that is pointing the finger at moscow. so essentially it can be either loaded with shaped charges which are arm or penetrating or they can be loaded with fragmentary munitions, which are anti personnel. so clearly a capability that would be useful in any type of offensive operations. i would note that the russians have already been implying cluster munitions on the battlefield. human rights watch says, based russia and ukraine have used cluster munitions. so fall in the conflict and has cooled for both sides to stop. immediately. earlier i spoke with ahead of our bureau in washington as full, and i asked her how the bottom administration justify supplying these controversial cluster munitions to create or straightening causes. the system has definitely be challenging for the abiding administration. and you know,
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it's kind of interesting when just 5 days into the war venue, white house press secretary jen, saki was asked about the russian use of custom, munitions. she said, if these reports are true, it would potentially be a war crime. so the worry was that you guys would lose the kind of moral high ground by employing these condemned weapons. however, the bite and administration now of use these munitions as essential and the fact that your premiums prefer to use these weapons rather than live on the russian who has apparently become really a critical effect or in mr. biden's thinking and decision making me. all right, so the vitamin ministration sees these weapons as essential in this point of the fighting. that is the official narrative. but what do you think is really behind it? around the call there is no doubt that the supply of sufficient amunition is one of
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the main problems uh for the ukrainian army. and we actually just had a great report which all of yours will find an hour dw, a news youtube channel, about how much time it takes to build new amunition factories, for example, here in the united states. and since you as hasn't used cluster bomb since the rog wore, it has large amounts of them in storage and can excess them quickly and sent them to ukraine very fast. and we're hearing that the us is about to announce a new, a new, a package where to support for ukraine standards us beyond that as well . um, you know, i wouldn't say that the washington's patients is key if it's sending yet even so there are reports, but they should talk to policy makers. this is not true,
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but there are definitely concerns that the console offensive is not prepared, correct. and so it progressing. as anticipated, and that might give putting the advancing advantage. so the timing is really a factor actually also when it comes to the weather because october marks the start of the muddy season. and that will restrict tanks and armored vehicles of the to move only on pave a paved row. and so it is really a question how long this counter offensive really will need until it's really successful for the ukraine. you know me, the w washington bureau to it is full. thank you so much. and may, to leaders are preparing for a key summit next week, which will focus on membership for sweden and ukraine. but there is another significant concern for the alliance, whether it is capable of actually dealing with any threat from russia. a former us
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general has told you that we, nato is not ready, a needle maintained. it's got allies completely covered. nathan will protect every inch of allied territory, but candidate nato has forces in fire, power, pre positioned in 8 allies along its eastern flank. but if russia were to attack, for example, the narrow gap between bella ruth and colleen and grad known as this, a walking corridor with the aim to cut off the baltic states. if we cannot move fast enough, i think this is very dangerous. if the russians can see, and they're aware that we could not get to, let's say this a walking car door for the full sean gate down in romania as fast or faster than russian federation forces could give their retire. general ben hodges is an expert in military mobility and to his chagrin, immobility from the years he was charged with insuring american troops and their
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equipment could respond quickly to threats loads of red tape and lack of transport capacity top to his list of lows. you can not even live a couple your passion, germany without special permissions. there's not enough real cars in the cargo. don't you bought a cargo to move more than one and a half are remember gauge that all over europe simultaneously. that's nothing compared to what we would need. and then there's the lack of inter governmental communication. hodges recalls a special moment in 2017. when you as paratroopers were dropped into full guerria for a training exercise. we discovered in the last minute that the bulgarian ministry of interior responsible for their borders were going to have officials out on the drop zone and expect to see the passport of every parents river as if they had just gotten off a little tons of flight. and i was like, you watch another issue is infrastructure such as bridges and roads that can't bear
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the weight of heavy tanks or tunnels, which are too narrow. fixing these problems was long ago identified as a key area where nato into europe can union could. and actually had to work together, the alliance needs the access, the you has control over regulations and funds for logistical upgrades and member states. but after new years of plans, task forces and projects and now war next door, the potential remains largely on paper policy analysts and a heikki hi, a spend to months researching the current state of military mobility and was dismayed at his findings. definitely, i was surprised given how many years has passed since know through the video to me came a priority at the, at the u level. nothing much has happened just to give you an example of currently at the you level the objectives to reach maximum 5 working days to get permission to cross borders. that's quite a lots, right? they want to make free for rapid reaction, forces 5 working days, waiting on paper work for each country that would need to be crossed. that's the
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goal. meanwhile, moscow has no such barriers and get higher points out. the necessary changes in europe won't happen overnight, is it's a continuous process that takes years. so if we have started, i don't know, 15 years ago now we do the reading better. if we start now, we'll see in 4th and the results may be in 10 years. general hodges says the new military plans to be adopted at nato's bill. me a summit. should we do a big improvement because possible more time responsibilities will be assigned by regions reducing transport times. but he's still worried to everybody gets serious and understands why this is to the benefit of the alliance for terence is going to continue to be seen as some sort of a bureaucratic, a thing that just needs to be sorted out. he says, is past time. now to get serious a terry sills filed this report,
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enjoys us now from brussels, terry, and general ben hodges. they are saying that these bureaucratic hurdles can prove dangerous for nato. the reasoning behind that is quite obvious of the situation that we're finding ourselves in right now. so why has the situation not improved as fast as experts believe is necessary? that's because the experts don't have control over national budget. so you've got people like general hodges, he's been saying for years, look, it doesn't matter how well we improve our military readiness. i mean, we practice in this a walkie gap in this a walk you court or all the time. but, you know, russia can move much more quickly, rushes, not waiting at every country 5 days on paperwork that needs to be hand written and turned in. that's really the situation now. so i think that there's a disconnect between what military planners and what military practitioners. no, it would take to get to a crisis area and then what people in national governments are willing to do, you need the finance ministers, the transport ministers and the ministry of defense to all get on the same page.
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and then to a lot the necessary money, and that just doesn't happen even with the risk as high as we see now with such an unpredictable rush are right next door to some of the allies, the researcher and you spoke to says that even if plans were implemented right now, it could take up to 10 years before we even start to see any results when not be till late as well, that's the risk you never know what to late is because again, we don't know what russia is going to do being of course, the closest neighbor that makes the most pressed against nato allies. they're pretty well bogged down and ukraine right now. so i don't think anyone's worried that russian forces are going to rush to, to the border of any nato ally, but you don't know what they're going to do next. and, and they're also, you know, cyber defense is that needs to be based on. so i think that there, again, there is just not to the, everyone's not on the same page with what it would take. and again, the kind of changes that we're talking about are completely changing the rail
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gauges in some countries, replacing ridges, replacing highways and making tunnels wider. those things take years and millions and millions of bureaus and the european union has a lot in some money to these kind of projects and they're still not being carried out. and again, nato can say, this is what we would need, but it's really on the use side where you would need to, to allocate the money and, and to control the regulations that would, that would govern these kind of infrastructure upgrades. mm. all eyes on vilnius. next week, because that is where nato members will be meeting, are we going to see more concrete plans, especially when it comes to military mobility is the plans that are expected to be adopted at the building is some it will help the problem of military immobility. but it's not necessarily because there are going to be plans directly related to that. again, as my researchers said, those plans have existed on paper for a long time. they're working groups constantly working on exactly what would need to be changed. what nato is going to do at this summit,
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and not just because it has problems with military mobility, but it is going to make regional plans. and that's something that hasn't been seen since the cold war. that where they're going to be certain hubs that are going to be responsible for protecting nato territory in that area. so that's going to improve the need for, you know, a heavy equipment to get places uh more quickly and for some exact hub to be in control of those areas. so those things will be improved. but, you know, again, it comes down to really cooperation between nato in the you and they, they had really harris little this as, as an area where they were going to be able to approve the 2 organizations could work together. and we're just not seeing it. and that's not something that can be solved by the valise summit. paris hilton russell. thank you so much. i. so let's take a look now and some of the other stories making news around the worlds the bella, rudy, and military has revealed a fields camp. it is offered to russia's wagner group. the mercenaries were due to
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relocate to bela roost under a deal that ended their mutiny last month. but villarreal says wagner officials have yet to inspect the former military base self minsk, thousands of opposition, supporters and can you have taken to the streets to protest tax increases rally as were called by ry loading the leader of the opposition as the new alliance, who accuses president really rudo of taking power illegally. police use tear gas to break up protests in the ports if you have one boss on and elsewhere. after a volcanic eruption and southern for route, the government has declared a state of emergency aid crews are setting up shelters and prepared to relocate. thousands of people and you'll be in us. volcano has been spewing ash and talks and gas. it also registered dozens of explosions and recent days. ok, those last major or russian was 4 years ago. it's almost 10 months since
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the death of a young woman in police custody sparks mass protests across around. and while frustration remains high and official crackdown has cost large demonstrations in most areas, but not everywhere in the south eastern province, system and baluchistan. for example, close to the border with i've got us down in pockets done resistance against the regime and tear on remains fixed. and the regional capitals i had on people still take to the streets every friday rights groups say the pollution minority there has face discrimination and repression for decking. mary, margaret them is the director of around human rights and organization. he said up to document human rights abuses in a. ronnie joins us now from oslo. welcome back to the w. good to see you. tell us how has the rainy and regime reacted to the protests? and since done envelopes has done, this is thanks for having me here. so as, as the you mentioned, the pro biologist on is the place where to put this to continue out there. and 9
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months, it's the 40th friday people come on the streets and based on our reports previously about once here, just about the 582 people who were queued on the streets during the put this they come from by the system. and i to refuse to continue. there are mass arrest. we the hear reports have a risk every single day and the and they do basically whatever they can to stop this process that they haven't managed, people come on the streets and it says, where's response fail to quell the pro 10? when you see in the phone, the wrong people are fed up with their oppressive version that is incompetent to sort of people's daily problems and especially among the ethnic minorities, they are fed up with that and being 2nd class
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citizens. so the difference between beverages and risk of the country is that value, just because people do have a leader, it would be just everywhere that the after and i need please the friday, the soon the preferred the prayer of a 0 had done many by the which is regarding the as a leader, i'm daily centering and the regime is afraid of pushing too much. they are afraid of going for the more that'd be himself so. so i think they really seem has more of a challenge in coping with the people in biologist and right now. yeah. the sunni minority there says that they face discrimination and repression. and that the situation has been like that for years. can you describe briefly, maybe what life is like for students in a run, or what do you know is soon these are between the they constitute between 10 and 20
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percent of your us population. so it's basically the largest religious minority, but a part of the discrimination is according to the law. uh so that, you know, we have a just allow me to call me but she is telling me to call the big know so need, can take any top political positions for individuals history. but at the same time, we see we also see that sony areas are among the poor as a morse, marginalized part of the country. and that's practically discrimination. that a, you know, a doing to share the web. and of course, if they have their language is the not to respect it, their traditions are not respected and their regime has a sick to a t in look at people, even sonya regions. yeah, we don't have much time, but i do want to ask you this because out have you focus was on women's rights in
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the recent mass protest on select the country. is that also the case in, in system pollutants on? yeah, i think the main focus was going on citizen being treated as 2nd class citizens. so that's one side of his woman, but the also it can again, religious minorities has been treated then 2nd class citizen. so i think that's a major issue and valid, just done with the mirror and walking down the director of around human rights and also thank you so much for your time. you. it's the, the women's world cup is now less than 2 weeks away in germany. are playing their final warm up game later against them. yeah. before they fly over to australia. but however, the game and food pans out, medina falls, texting books, team or heading to the tournament full of confidence. the how it works been put in
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the coach has a lot to think about this group of players hoping to bring jeremy back. it's fast. well top since 2007 to this. and that's what we know what we can achieve. we know how to achieve it, which is also very important to know being yeah, we're excited and motivated traveling to australia. yeah, i'm looking at to him the whole time germany will line up the tournament says one of the favorites among the $32.00 countries taking cons run is out finished to england at last is your p and championship provides the foundation for team blending the old with the new he's in the show, most of 5 and the mixture of experience and young payers a special i makes a specials investment, which is why we're aiming for the title to the show. i'm going to do much here in germany or in a group of columbia, south korea, and tournament tay becomes more real co pertains deluxe. further ahead. of course, england, after the european championship friends are always dangerous. we can count ourselves
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among the favorites, sweden and norway, canada, brazil. the lift is very long this time around to this. yeah. a long list because of off texting bag and hot team is to be at the top of a and a brief look now and some other stories from the world of sports. the intent is number 3 saved on human menace at the top of your screen there reached the 3rd round at wimbledon with a straight set when over adrienne, marino from france, the 27 year old from russia has in progress past the 4th round at the all england plus the sofa and the women's drawn to time wimbledon champion, petra 3 to the advance to the 3rd round following a routine. when over aaliyah sandra saw some of it from bella. ruth, the 33 year old showed a dominant performance in the streets at wind, which the men's 1st status as one of the tournaments. they rel, madrid, and have assign turkeys. team sensation are the dealer from center bunch of
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training. are reporter meant some of them in the capital do with a little thing basketball academy into the full month's us with a nice and be a stab at the school for hundreds of children and teenagers from across the country . one of them is 17 your own tasha. i'm on duty. brad. this is to play and every time i'm not watching them but i don't think i just tell them how much every time they come home they talk about it. they've made them quite now for you, but girls playing basketball and stuff for them. that's quite unusual. so i had to bring to coaches to a house, but her parents would allow her to train. when the academy finally started, the girls leak more and more women signed up. now i think it was more than a 100 that the number keeps increasing every type because everybody wants to
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know that the national team is headed for the world's cup. basketball is becoming ever more popular. the growing up in sa sedan is easy. the young country has been embroiled in a deadly civil war for most of its existence. but how the t and crime will the streets. basketball helps to forget. sometimes surprise and when you sit down one on one, some people been taught by the war song. so we can use like a photo for them. some of the kids for mike who basketball can achieve even more, especially in the country is divided. this also done google, long car insurance people perception. so i, so then we have so many defendants. it's called a charts. what do you say here is also so that we don't push twice is
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